How to Return the Spin Serve like a Pro | Featuring Porter Barr

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
  • In this video, Porter Barr and I going over how to read and return the one handed Morgan Evans spin serve. There are a lot of small subtle things to look for, but once you know what to look for, these serves become significantly easier to return. After a year of doing them myself and playing people who do them, I can confidently say that these serves are MUCH easier to return than most people believe.
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  • @PickleballStudio
    @PickleballStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just to clarify at 1:52, I mispoke while talking. But the pictures and text on screen are CORRECT.
    If a right handed player has their palm facing their body, the ball will kick to your backhand.
    If their palm is facing towards the court, that will go to your forehand.
    You can flip that if they are a lefty.

  • @davidbasinski2634
    @davidbasinski2634 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Time to update video with legal serves and change read with regard to the paddle swing.
    Great videos btw.

  • @sheaunderwood
    @sheaunderwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some wicked spin serves bro. No one does it better than Porter, that’s unreal.

  • @charleszook7873
    @charleszook7873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You two do an excellent job of explaining what most advanced players do intuitively, but have difficulty explaining to someone else. High five on so many levels, clarity, insight, practical, engaging to watch, fun. I will be recommending others to your thoughtfully done educational video.

  • @PickleballWill
    @PickleballWill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff as always! Much needed for the community

    • @PickleballStudio
      @PickleballStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate the support Will! :)

    • @PickleballWill
      @PickleballWill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PickleballStudio yes man thank you for making people play better 😂

  • @ironlotus24
    @ironlotus24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I love how well you explain this. It's super duper easy once you know what you're doing! 😁👍

    • @DaveLL500
      @DaveLL500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really appreciate your willingness to share this. You're a really generous dude.

  • @mark-ex1nh
    @mark-ex1nh ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6- 2023 is this serve legal ? producing spin by snapping fingers before contact ? just curious, I didn't think is was allowed. Thanks

    • @breathmore
      @breathmore 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      no not legal anymore

    • @cashmason374
      @cashmason374 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When this was filmed, it was a legal serve. The rules have changed and it is not legal anymore.

  • @Thejoeb
    @Thejoeb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice of Porter to pull back the curtain to show how he gets all that kick. Great video and certainly needed, no one wants to look like a chump falling down on a serve return!

    • @ironlotus24
      @ironlotus24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Of course! My goal is to be as open about my secrets as possible 😂

  • @SpicyCurryProd
    @SpicyCurryProd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video on reading this spin serve! I see it from very few players (like 1) in our drill and rec groups so don’t get to practice against it. Then in our local RR, we were undefeated till our final game against the other undefeated team…and one of the players had a good kick spin. A game to 11 by 1 is NOT enough time to learn to read it!!! Lol! So will try and really focus on what you said here. Thanks again!

  • @kimtaylorpickleball4975
    @kimtaylorpickleball4975 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video really helped playing against you Friday! Returning the spin serves was easier than I thought it would be... Unless you serve into the fence 😏 lol

  • @Fuyei
    @Fuyei 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now, I might be able to get a few points off Porter finally!!! Thank you!

    • @ironlotus24
      @ironlotus24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll just lob you 😂😂😂

  • @kento1957
    @kento1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video on your backhand spin mentioned elsewhere?

  • @bradw1261
    @bradw1261 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about reading a drop serve with the side spin?

  • @PT56123
    @PT56123 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can all these serves still be accomplished without spinning the ball with the hand as its being tossed from the hand?

  • @duhnonymous1857
    @duhnonymous1857 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang! I have a lot to learn!

  • @stevecrawford333
    @stevecrawford333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is he serving these flat? or does the side spin add to the top spin vector. And does his serve work with a gritty paddle or does that cancel out the spin too much

  • @Clutch_and_Shift
    @Clutch_and_Shift ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of shoes is the guy in the black shirt wearing?

  • @Goozoozoo117
    @Goozoozoo117 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a great video

  • @chongqinghotpot
    @chongqinghotpot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I found interesting is that Porter uses a Selkirk paddle that is not known for its spin (a few big spin server pro too). I have not yet seen videos with the spinner paddles such as crbn. Any particular reasons?

    • @PickleballStudio
      @PickleballStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Part of the reason is certain variations of the serve are easier to do with paddles that don’t grab the ball as much because it doesn’t take away the spin from your hand toss. Paddles with a lot of grit grab the ball and take away a bit of the hand toss spin.

  • @LB-ej8pu
    @LB-ej8pu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much!

  • @marvinpatrick3462
    @marvinpatrick3462 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2023 rules state that no spinning from hand release.

  • @aronvesper5289
    @aronvesper5289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you like the 002?!

  • @tengYT
    @tengYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    More on the toss, it's different than the Morgan Evans toss?

    • @ChrisOlson2
      @ChrisOlson2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It actually is the same Morgan Evans toss. I have another video on my channel that explains how to do the serve as well.

    • @tengYT
      @tengYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisOlson2 Oh, is he using both his middle and index fingers on one end versus just the index and middle?
      I've watched that video and have been practicing the toss around my house for awhile now haha. You werent kidding when you said you'd end up scraping up your finger :D - I can attest.

    • @ChrisOlson2
      @ChrisOlson2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tengYT haha oh yeah! It'll get your fingers real beat up 😂
      Porter only uses his middle finger and thumb for his tosses.

  • @quidproquo9000
    @quidproquo9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fortunately, im at such a low level, i don't think ive ever experienced this serve during normal play

  • @DannyBPlays
    @DannyBPlays ปีที่แล้ว +12

    good thing these are illegal now!

    • @syntax2679
      @syntax2679 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another nuance of the game removed!

    • @teeqz_raiderfn
      @teeqz_raiderfn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@syntax2679 no it was a nuisance to remove

    • @syntax2679
      @syntax2679 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@teeqz_raiderfn play a real sport

    • @j7404
      @j7404 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@teeqz_raiderfnwat

  • @PickleballBatman
    @PickleballBatman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is this place?

  • @jamesgordy880
    @jamesgordy880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What paddle does he have?

    • @PickleballStudio
      @PickleballStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it was the Selkirk Amped Epic

    • @PickleballStudio
      @PickleballStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely an Epic. I know that for sure.

    • @DaveLL500
      @DaveLL500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PickleballStudio I froze the frame and looked again. It's AMPED epic, my bad.

  • @buckyphillips6732
    @buckyphillips6732 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tennis serve is a crucial shot that can greatly impact your performance on the court. Learn it

  • @sspimpmasterflex
    @sspimpmasterflex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought spin serves are banned from play?

    • @PickleballStudio
      @PickleballStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only from pro play in the PPA. Every other tournament it’s legal.

    • @sspimpmasterflex
      @sspimpmasterflex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PickleballStudio Ah, thanks for clearing this up! Thanks

    • @yourrealtorchuck
      @yourrealtorchuck ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PickleballStudio I may be a little late to this, but the current rules state no manipulation with the hand before serving. Did I miss something? Thank you.

  • @michaelt2961
    @michaelt2961 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like he is spinning the ball when throwing it up in the air. Isn't this illegal in 2023?

  • @mobsyndicate1389
    @mobsyndicate1389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey what shoes is Porter Wearing? Thanks

    • @PickleballStudio
      @PickleballStudio  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it’s the Babolat Jet Mach 3

  • @lisag.2902
    @lisag.2902 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a left handed player I found this video totally confusing saying it was going to backhand or forehand. it was very confusing, since i am opposite everyone. Would have been better if you just said it was going left or right.

  • @LearnAtMyExpense
    @LearnAtMyExpense 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So glad this isn't legal anymore!

    • @ggsd4903
      @ggsd4903 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same. Hack serve. Learn spin with the raquet lol

  • @pcascio
    @pcascio ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great tutorial, but your camera placement violates the "180-degree rule" making it disorienting. Nonetheless, the info if terrific. Thanks.

  • @sammyleepickleball
    @sammyleepickleball 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sure. Of course. Now you tell everyone how to return it right before I partner up with him for a tournament 🤦🏻‍♂️😂😉

  • @masaruex
    @masaruex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is the spin legal when he spins the ball with his finger, try 0.25x playing speed

  • @user9b2
    @user9b2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is hard 😳🫣

  • @gg80108
    @gg80108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks illegal, paddle is not making an upward motion but slicing down and across! Its like golf you hit down on the ball to make it go up!

  • @bobpeter4409
    @bobpeter4409 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Illegal serve. Adding spin to ball when he tosses ball. Probably made video before rule change on serving.

  • @edmandani3091
    @edmandani3091 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The serve is not legal.

  • @romanhernz3839
    @romanhernz3839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NO MORE SPINS FOR 2023

  • @breathmore
    @breathmore 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This serve is no longer legal