Thanks everyone for watching my latest videos! I've got more planned for the next few weeks! I also wanted to mention I have a Kickstarter that I am planning on launching mid-August, you can find the pre-launch page here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/forrestimel/five-color-playmat-collection-by-forrest-imel
I wish this shit occurred to me sooner but it was something like 8-10 years into my art career before it really hit me. I’m great at replication which comes in handy but hoo boy did my creative side suffer for it. Better now than never though!!
I think one of my biggest mistakes was to think that drawing was a brainless activity. I used to just put my brain aside and then wonder why it wasnt good or interesting. For some reasons I always believed that it was just based on instincts and improvisation. Even when I started studying, I would copy and study mindlessly, never asking myself questions, why and how things worked, and then I felt miserable because obviously, I felt like I was wasting my time. And one day, it just came to me how dumb I was and started to actively take notes before putting my pen on paper, to know where I was going and why. Learned the importance of thumbnailing, brainstorming, gathering refs and to be prepared before trying to draw anything or else I would fell into bad habits again and be frustrated. Now I cant even work with music on or any background noise, focus was really the key for me.
1) Blind method 10/10 recommend 2) Study things you actually want to improve at and not just copy images. ( draw 3 from reference and then draw 3 of your own) 3) try different styles. i feel like if you follow these 3 rules you will improve.
I think that understanding image making on a fundamental level will allow you to make decisions more easily and you'll be more adaptable than any AI image generator. AI generators can still get you results that average people would be satisfied with, but you lose a lot of that control over decision making and nuance.
This! I like AI generating the characters in stories I write to see how others can picture them differently to the way I visualise them (since most AI uses inputs based from the most popular data sets) and when I try to fix the images to be closer to my own visions AI is very inflexible
I've heard lots of videos talk about "art studies" and taking notes but I really was not getting it. Seeing you do it step by step has made everything kind of fall into place in my brain and I can't wait to apply this to my own art.
YES THANKYOU SOMONE SAYS COPYING ONE TO ONE ISNT NECESSARILY BECAUSE AT YHE END OF THE DAY A STUDY IS MEANT TO BE OBSERVE AND UNDERSTOOD TO SOLVE WHATEVER PROBLEM YOU MIGHT HAVE WHEN DRAWING WITHOUT REFERENCES
Great video. I sent it to my girlfriend who is starting to draw and she loved it. It will help her not to make the same mistakes I made for years with ineffective studies.
This is so true and my learning method too. For me im always take note when trying to study some painting. I keep the note as png and save it on a folder. After that i make it into pdf
@@ForrestImelPlease let me know what anatomy art book you used, or any anatomy book that helped you a lot. I'm on beginner level in anatomy. I know where the muscle bumps are to make them look human but that's it.
aamzong man, im trying to improve my anatomy drawing skills and really its been months but still wasnt happy with any of my process, but this seems to make a lot of sense to me and makes things much more clear. I'll see how I improve in time. I figured taking a picture of my work every day can also be a good way to motivate me, as I'll improve more and more and I'll be able to see my progress!
I think you were on to something with the "prominent lower eyelids", though! It's called "the squinch", an eye expression photography trick that male models and actors use. It makes them look more brooding and cool, instead of puppy dog eyed, which doesn't look so badass. 🤣
Really insightful, this video sort of lines up with what I've learned from others but I think I align with your expression of this idea. any recommendations for anatomy books?
Michael Hampton has a TH-cam channel I recently discovered, I also recently also found Tom Fox's anatomy book, I like it , I feel it cover's perspective drawing quite well. Might be worth checking out.
sorry if this comes off as confusing, but for the studying phase (example: hands), would you try to study the simplified constructions in the book first, following the authors' instructions step by step, OR would you try drawing hands from reference (either using photos or using your own hands) using the construction methods from the book and note anything interesting you see? I ask this because I'm trying to improve my hand drawing by using both anatomy for sculptors and marco bucci's hand drawing videos as resources, but I struggle with trying to figure out how to effectively study them and how to relate the simplified constructions back to real life references. I used to take notes when studying but I stopped because I realized I was spending more time note-taking than actually drawing.
i definitely know the difference between skill and knowledge, i 3d sculpt characters but can't draw even a shitty character at all. biggest skill issue ever
it depends on your own personal idea of what "good" is really. If you are wanting to make some money from your art then yeah probably, but if your goal is to work for some higher end clients I think inevitably you'll need to start improving not only your skill, but your knowledge as well.
Thanks everyone for watching my latest videos! I've got more planned for the next few weeks! I also wanted to mention I have a Kickstarter that I am planning on launching mid-August, you can find the pre-launch page here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/forrestimel/five-color-playmat-collection-by-forrest-imel
what anatomy art book did you use?
my teacher once said "if i wanted a 1:1 copy i would take a photograph" good video
my teacher said the same thing haha
OOooh that's good
I wish this shit occurred to me sooner but it was something like 8-10 years into my art career before it really hit me. I’m great at replication which comes in handy but hoo boy did my creative side suffer for it. Better now than never though!!
I think one of my biggest mistakes was to think that drawing was a brainless activity. I used to just put my brain aside and then wonder why it wasnt good or interesting. For some reasons I always believed that it was just based on instincts and improvisation. Even when I started studying, I would copy and study mindlessly, never asking myself questions, why and how things worked, and then I felt miserable because obviously, I felt like I was wasting my time. And one day, it just came to me how dumb I was and started to actively take notes before putting my pen on paper, to know where I was going and why. Learned the importance of thumbnailing, brainstorming, gathering refs and to be prepared before trying to draw anything or else I would fell into bad habits again and be frustrated.
Now I cant even work with music on or any background noise, focus was really the key for me.
1) Blind method 10/10 recommend
2) Study things you actually want to improve at and not just copy images. ( draw 3 from reference and then draw 3 of your own)
3) try different styles.
i feel like if you follow these 3 rules you will improve.
What I'm hearing you say, is that what separates me from an image generating AI is my ability to understand what it is that I'm drawing.
I think that understanding image making on a fundamental level will allow you to make decisions more easily and you'll be more adaptable than any AI image generator. AI generators can still get you results that average people would be satisfied with, but you lose a lot of that control over decision making and nuance.
This! I like AI generating the characters in stories I write to see how others can picture them differently to the way I visualise them (since most AI uses inputs based from the most popular data sets) and when I try to fix the images to be closer to my own visions AI is very inflexible
I've heard lots of videos talk about "art studies" and taking notes but I really was not getting it. Seeing you do it step by step has made everything kind of fall into place in my brain and I can't wait to apply this to my own art.
YES THANKYOU SOMONE SAYS COPYING ONE TO ONE ISNT NECESSARILY BECAUSE AT YHE END OF THE DAY A STUDY IS MEANT TO BE OBSERVE AND UNDERSTOOD TO SOLVE WHATEVER PROBLEM YOU MIGHT HAVE WHEN DRAWING WITHOUT REFERENCES
Placing Y'shtola on the cover is a sure way to get an instant play from ff14 players, great strategy!
This was great! I had a feeling the process would be something similar to this! Thanks for making a vid on it dude🤙🏽
I tried this method and it helped a lot! thank you for sharing your studying technique
Great video. I sent it to my girlfriend who is starting to draw and she loved it. It will help her not to make the same mistakes I made for years with ineffective studies.
That's awesome! :)
I'm always excited to see a new video from you. Hope to see more soon!
This is so true and my learning method too. For me im always take note when trying to study some painting. I keep the note as png and save it on a folder. After that i make it into pdf
I for sure felt like I hit a ceiling at some point , that I couldn't improve past, thanks for the video!
It happens to all of us! Glad you liked the video!
i feel like patterns is a really really good way to learn and remember human's have always been the strongest with patterns
This is what Im missing! Holy crap.
Thanks for sharing this information. I was wondering why I was moving along at a snail's pace 😅
you're welcome! I hope it helps!
@@ForrestImelPlease let me know what anatomy art book you used, or any anatomy book that helped you a lot. I'm on beginner level in anatomy. I know where the muscle bumps are to make them look human but that's it.
aamzong man, im trying to improve my anatomy drawing skills and really its been months but still wasnt happy with any of my process, but this seems to make a lot of sense to me and makes things much more clear. I'll see how I improve in time. I figured taking a picture of my work every day can also be a good way to motivate me, as I'll improve more and more and I'll be able to see my progress!
I think you were on to something with the "prominent lower eyelids", though! It's called "the squinch", an eye expression photography trick that male models and actors use. It makes them look more brooding and cool, instead of puppy dog eyed, which doesn't look so badass. 🤣
I hear that Gold Saucer music :D !
applying this rn
Really insightful, this video sort of lines up with what I've learned from others but I think I align with your expression of this idea.
any recommendations for anatomy books?
I personally like Michael Hampton's the most, but Loomis and Bridgman are also good options
Michael Hampton has a TH-cam channel I recently discovered, I also recently also found Tom Fox's anatomy book, I like it , I feel it cover's perspective drawing quite well. Might be worth checking out.
"If you look around.... Everything is inspiration"
sorry if this comes off as confusing, but for the studying phase (example: hands), would you try to study the simplified constructions in the book first, following the authors' instructions step by step, OR would you try drawing hands from reference (either using photos or using your own hands) using the construction methods from the book and note anything interesting you see?
I ask this because I'm trying to improve my hand drawing by using both anatomy for sculptors and marco bucci's hand drawing videos as resources, but I struggle with trying to figure out how to effectively study them and how to relate the simplified constructions back to real life references. I used to take notes when studying but I stopped because I realized I was spending more time note-taking than actually drawing.
ima start typing notes and hopefully that will work (i'm disgraphic and it takes me 10min to write a sentance)
That was Brad Pitt? I thought it was Norman Reedus.
Thank you for the video ❤
yeeeeaaaah, lets go with that!
what anatomy art book did you use?
I went through Bridgman, Hogarth, Loomis, and Michael Hampton's books, but I prefer Hampton's the most personally.
i see y'shtola + art advice?
i click
I find myself starting with a study, then going from there.
Why do I hear Gridania music in the back lol. I was so confused for a second if I have left ffxiv open :P Great video tho ^^
haha, I love a lot of FFXIV's music and thought it'd be better than some random jazz piano music or somethin.
Yoooooooo, he is being Sharlyan professor 🌚 I see what chu did there forest.
The Conan O'brien of art! Just kidding, great vid Thanks!!
I'll accept that role, I love Conan
😭😭😭Brad Pitt? I thought that was Norman Reedus
U da boss
Smoothest skin in the business
i definitely know the difference between skill and knowledge, i 3d sculpt characters but can't draw even a shitty character at all. biggest skill issue ever
Bro where is Yshtola draw, I got baited!!
as funny as always
Will enough mindless volume make me good eventually?
it depends on your own personal idea of what "good" is really. If you are wanting to make some money from your art then yeah probably, but if your goal is to work for some higher end clients I think inevitably you'll need to start improving not only your skill, but your knowledge as well.
Probably not I tried that for a whole year 6 to 12 hrs a day so wouldn’t recommend it that way
Keep training well, kids, or you’ll hit 40 and have nothing going for you.
i thought this was about mtg hahahahaha just kidding
u need talent nothing else! xD
what you need is talent. if you dont have it. you will most likely never get good. ^^
This guy is so creepy
Just bought your fundamentals course, love the content!!🫶
Thank you!
I see yshtola. I click
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