curious your thoughts if Undefeated BYU faces Kansas State and looses in the big 12 championship game. similar situation to TCU a couple years ago.. in this scenario does a 1 loss BYU get left out?
I have to say, re: your take on targeting, its not just optics. It’s because kids aren’t playing football as much as they used to. My dad did but my parents didn’t let me. That will continue to be true for more and more kids each year unless they keep making progress on concussions
Regarding targeting: if targeting is confirmed, make it a 30-yard penalty and let the offending players stay in the game at that point. If the player commits another targeting penalty in that same game or in two consecutive games, then the player can be ejected.
@Ermatinger503 exactly then the commentators all say the same cliché line ItS Not tO proTecT the offensive player its to protect the defensive player too. If that were really the case, then offensive player shouldn't be allowed to lower their heads either and initiate contact.
@@mansionman777 I understand there's a lot of turnover in college football, I just meant that Narduzzi and Pitt have proven they're a program that can go toe to toe with the top teams in the conference and win. Is it likely they'll win the ACC? No, but to write them off completely after a 7-0 start with wins against 2 Big12 teams feels disrespectful, especially since Miami and Clemson haven't beaten anyone. Also, your point about the portal actually only helps a team like Pitt btw, as they now have significantly more former 4 stars than that 2021 team.
Alabama playing a High school team this late in the season should automatically disqualify them for any real consideration, especially while other teams play power school
Aside from Oregons win over osu who has a better win then bama dose over Georgia ? Were gonna see 3 or 4 teams from the big ten and sec thats how this is gonna go. bama is very much still in this
@@KadenRoberts-vd2bnGeorgia scheduled Clemson in the non-conference while Ohio State scheduled 3 cupcakes. Sorry, but that more than outweighs whatever “advantage” you think playing UMass in November gives Georgia.
I'm glad there was a chance to get the targeting call reviewed and vacated. This is the third time this season an Ohio State player was ejected for targeting, and in approximately zero of those were they genuinely headhunting.
One of their losses was to a team that was at a point perceived by almost everyone to be the best team in the country. They have to play the current #1 team next week, #13 (and climbing) Indiana, and #4 Ohio State. If they win out, a 9-3 Michigan team showing clear leaps in improvement from the beginning of their season is in without question. Now the odds of them actually winning out and showing that leap in improvement is simply not foreseeable.
I agree with Klatt in terms of a realistic path to the playoff. With who michigan has left to play, if they win out, they can still find themselves in the B1G title game. If they win that, they are in. Where the realistic part is thrown out the window is thinking that Michigan can actually beat 4 top-10 teams (would have to face one again in the title game) to finish the year. It'd be a miraculous thing to just win one of those games. Also Michigan fan btw
You are 1,000% correct Joel, the expanded playoff has made College Football BETTER, not worse, like so many morons before the season were saying it would
100% agree on the targeting. If the player is initiating the tackle, and the WR or RB goes low, thats on them. If they guy is going to tackle the WR at the waist, but he trips or falls bent over or something, whats the player to do, defy physics? Let him catch the ball? c'mon man, this rule longs needs an overhaul.
Only two teams are at 80% odds of going. Oregon and Miami. If Oregon wins out plus wins Big 10 title game, they will be one seed. That is the only Big 10 team that can get the CFP one seed. If Oregon goes to CFP but not get a bye, the SEC winner will be the one seed. The ACC will be the three seed, Big 12 the four seed with byes. I think Ohio State needs the win over Penn State more than the other way around for making the CFP. I believe if Oregon, Penn St and Indiana tie undefeated, Oregon would get the nod, followed by Penn St, to go to Big 10 title game. Indiana has the weakest schedule. All three play Ohio State. Ducks already beat them. The other two play OSU in November. All three with a win over OSU, eliminates Ohio State from CFP. I agree Ohio State needs to at least beat either Penn St or Indiana. A one loss Indiana with the loss to Ohio State should get them in to the CFP, provided no more than 3 SEC teams go. If Indiana loses twice, they are out. If Penn State wins Saturday, OSU is only eliminated from the Big 10 title game if Oregon wins out and Penn State wins out or loses to another non OSU team. Indiana has to beat OSU to go to Big 10 title game.
I knew he was going say Michigan. Their resume would be insane if they did that. Funny thing is: it’s possible. If week 1 Oregon shows up, anything is possible.
How can Joel include Michigan but not Florida? If Florida by some miracle wins out, beating Georgia, Texas, LSU, and Ole Miss along the way, they’d probably get in. Florida’s got no chance of winning all of those games, but Michigan has 0 chance of beating each of Oregon, Indiana, and Ohio State as well. In fact most power ratings have Florida above Michigan. We can be done with Michigan. They had a great 3 year run that culminated in a title. Everybody’s gone, they’re not even a shell of what they were in 2021, let alone 2023. They have a 0% chance of winning out, just like Florida. Either put both on here, or put neither.
Agree with the ejections rant. I definitely couldn't have played in today's game. Offensive players lower their heads on defensive players almost every play and its never called. Defensive players are at such liability
Every 2-loss P4 team is still alive. They may not entirely control their destiny, but it makes no sense to eliminate teams who still have a shot at their conference championship.
Until the precedent is set. I’m unsure that all these 10-2 Big ten SEC will get these at large bids over 11-1 ACC or Big 12 teams. I see 11-1 Pitt, Miami, Clemson getting in for sure over 10-2 teams
Same Targeting BS happened in the Boise State Oregon game. Boise State player was ejected, then NCAA overturned it after the game. Boise probably would have won had that not happened. But no one wants to talk about that. What else does no one want to talk about? The common denominator between the BSU Oregon game targeting and the Ohio State Nebraska targeting. Which is Big10 Refs
44:58 Sports science nutrition now shows that any greasy meals like bacon, sausage, etc would be detrimental for sports performance. Carbs in the form of pasta are good at least 4 hours before a game for long term energy and glucose (fruits) would be good for short term twitch and explosiveness about 2 hours before game time. PQQ and CoQ10 are good supplements for energy and stamina about 4 to 6 hours before game time. The body burns glucose (fructose from fruit as an example) for energy first and then it moves on to the glycogen stores in the muscles for fuel. That is where the pasta comes in. Glycogen is the primary energy source during exercise that's more than 70% of maximal oxygen uptake. You need to fill up your glycogen stores in the muscle with the pasta (carbs) and then fill out the glucose levels 2 hours before game time with the fruits, etc. I suggest juice with a hydrating powder mix that has electrolytes as a drink during the game in order to maintain glucose levels high and your high twitch explosiveness while reducing any chance of cramping. Not to much juice, you don't want your insulin to spike up to much and cause you to crash. so a diluted juice mix with water and hydrating pack like emergen-c. When those glucose levels get low or go, then you are just relying on your glycogen levels and your explosiveness in the 4th quarter tends to diminish. If you are able to maintain glucose levels high, stay hydrated and take some good nutritional supplements for energy conversion such as PQQ, CoQ10 and L Carnitine, you can maximize your body's performance output in the game.
I would like to see the targeting penalty switch to something like the nba’s flagarant 1 and flagarant 2 fouls. Only eject on the intentional or clear and obvious ones. 15 yard penalty otherwise
The NFL basically has this system too with the unnecessary roughness/unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. The player is only ejected if the referees review the play and confirm malicious intent.
Canadian here: I love college football and have for many decades. I do agree that the playoff is good for the fan bases, but I don't believe it's good for players. If they're gonna have a 12 team playoff, cut the championship games: they're redundant. With this long season, the payments to players, and the transfer portal, college football has become a professional sports league, and these are college students 🤷.
I agree with the targeting sentiment. 1 only watch 3/4 games a weekend but it seems like 2-3 ejections a week and there are a 100 other games... Is it having a big impact?
@@swatisquantum I just hope he comes back. Indiana is a lot of fun to watch and they put a bunch of pressure on opponents d with Rourke out there. Really really efficient and effective offense.
The SEC playing a cupcake in November is because of their 8 game conference schedule compared to the Big Tens 9 games. Now I would complain, BUT the bigger SEC schools do normally schedule a tough P4 school for that 9th slot. Georgia had Clemsom, Bama had Wisconsin, Texas A and M had Notre Dame, Texas had Michigan etc.... And while the SEC didn't win all those games, they won most, against some really good schools. This is why the cluster of SEC teams with 1 loss happens. Also I'm a B1G and PSU guy. Hoping to beat OSU this week, but they won the last 7 so.... not too excited. You gotta beat the man to become the man, and PSU can't beat the man.
Probably Oregon 70-30ish. Honestly, I'm hoping to get that 5th seed, play a home playoff game, that will be our real white out and hopefully have a ton of recruits there, and then play the BIG 12 champ on a neutral field and maybe we get lucky. Franklin is starting to win me over this season, but after not beating OSU for 7 years Michigan for like 4, he has to prove himself again.
@@boybrushedred18 I agree that until Penn State beats Ohio State, it’s hard to take them or Indiana serious. I don’t think Ohio State is as good as the AP thinks in its rankings. Oregon is the only championship contender in the Big 10. Do I think they can beat Texas or Georgia? Not sure they can. They got a better defense and an experienced quarterback, so that helps. The Ducks could win out and not make the Big 10 Championship and be ranked one and not get a CFP bye. That would be unfair and stupid. Oregon has played a tougher schedule than Indiana or Penn State. They don’t need to prove themselves to the CFP committee. I think Penn State, Indiana and Ohio State do though. Not saying they are not good teams, but they are all ranked too high in the polls. Hope they all prove me wrong.
@donaldjones9830 give it time to play out, these teams still have 4 games of conference play left. It'll work itself out. But yea the system is unfair, I knew that from 2016 when both OSU and Washington got in over PSU. But if you think about it, missing the conference game and therefore getting a home game is almost the same as playing the conference game and getting a bye. Actually you probably end up the 5 seed and get an easier opponent than in the B1G championship game and still play the same amount of games. Plus the next game you get the weakest conference champion whereas as the 1 seed you likely get the sec loser and the tougher opponent. Point is, don't worry, let the season unfold.
Idk if it has anything to do with corruption, but I do think there is a cognitive bias. Officiating across the board has been abysmal this year though, so it could just be a bad year for officials.
Joel, I’m a Michigan fan, and I’ll admit there’s no way we’re making the playoff this year. Too many problems to fix. Tag in Oregon, Indiana, and Ohio State!! LMAO
If you have 5 SEC teams at 10-2 or better (Ga, Tx, TAMU, Tenn, winner of Bama/ LSU) do all 5 make the playoffs or is one being left out? Big 12- one loss KState beating undefeated BYU in Conference Champ game nets 2 Big 12 teams in the playoffs.
What happens to the team that might be @ 10-2 and lose their conference championship, do they lose their spot to a team that didn't make the conference championship game?
Is there a world where army and boise state both make it in? If they both go undefeated for the rest of the season that would give army a win over Notre Dame and would mean Boise State’s only loss would be the best team in the country by 3
Joel, you say throw out the preconceived records, but then you give Ohio State brand recognition. Is it about on field performance or brand recognition? Their best on-field performance came in the loss to Oregon.
Aside from Oregons win over osu who has a better win then bama dose over Georgia ? Were gonna see 3 or 4 teams from the big ten and sec thats how this is gonna go. bama is very much still in this
He hates Oregon and intentionally leaves them out lots of podcasts. He'll talk about who they are playing and the strengths of the other team. He does media shilling for Ohio State as if they're paying him off.
He did say they have the cleanest path, that’s a nod to the absolute cakewalk they have because Michigan and Washington fell off so badly. It’s unfortunate, but no one saw Indiana being so talented, and for whatever reason the schedule makers didn’t put Penn Stare on their schedule
Playing a “cupcake” team later in the season can be beneficial for getting valuable reps for your depth players while giving key athletes more time to recover. On the other hand, going through a gauntlet of tough games increases the risk of injuries.
I've never understood the hate for it. They are playing the cupcake either way... why care when it happens? I personally like more games earlier in the season that matter. Having to wait until week 5 or even week 6 for the first conference game is a lot worse than playing a late-season cupcake, in my opinion.
It still shouldn’t be allowed. Each team should get 1 cupcake game within the first 3-4 weeks of the season and then that’s it. No reason big league teams should be playing FCS schools in November
@Ermatinger503 to help them move up from FCS to FBS is why they play them. unless you are for keeping them in FCS. many people complain about why doesn’t NDSU move up from FCS to FBS. well money is part of it and with NIL, they cannot and will not compete. you say only the first four weeks, then you complain when they don’t have a top OOC game in the first two weeks. LSU had USC (who is now trash). Florida had Miami AND UCF. Georgia had Clemson. Texas had Michigan (who is trash now). Arkansas had Oklahoma State (who is trash now). Vanderbilt had Virginia Tech. Texas A&M had Notre Dame. Like the only SEC teams who had no legit OOC comp first 3 weeks was Kentucky (who started SEC play early), Ole Miss, South Carolina (started SEC play early + Clemson is the annual rivalry game at the END of the season), Missouri, and Auburn. that’s it!
Most targeting calls are BS. If you put your head down where your body or chest would be when a tackle is coming, it should not be considered targeting.
@@Mattw1014Aight so I think if we lose to A&M we definitely drop but unranked lmao? That’s just objectively not accurate lol. You’re telling me a 10-2 team would go from the 6-10 range to unranked because of losses to the current #2 team in the country and the current #1 team in SEC play? Not our fault two of our biggest opponents fell apart this year. Also, that was definitely not the same Georgia team as most of this season. That team hadn’t been seen since the Clemson game.
So if Ole Miss beats Georgia and A&M beats Texas, SEC gets 6 teams in the playoffs? And Big 10 get Indiana Oregon and Penn state, so 9 teams from two conferences? With the only other 3 are the winners from the other 3 conferences? How is this fair? Conference winners shldnt be a thing, should just be top 12
I honestly agree with this. It should be the best 12 teams going. Unfortunately that’s really hard to determine, especially with the crazy bias that a lot of these schools get. Really there’s no “perfect” way to figure out who goes and who doesn’t. Conference champions is an easy way to determine the top seeds, but then it gets muddy fast
Honestly 9-3 Bama or Michigan or Georgia or Florida would belong over 12-1 Miami. 8-4 Florida would belong. I’ve had it with the ACC. They have one good team a year maximum and have held the sport down since Trevor Lawrence left. Miami gives up 45 to unranked teams. They are not good.
Well glad ppl like you don’t decide on CFB playoffs. We can careless if you’re done with the ACC buddy🤡. You’re calling Miami bad but want to keep Bama who lost to VANDY and even talking about UF? The team we put 40 on and curbstomped at home? Yeah you Miami haters are comical and so hypocritical it’s pathetic. You’re crazy ash if you don’t think an undefeated team should be in. If Miami is bad, UF is worse for losing to us and Bama even more worse for losing to VANDY. Go CANES!💚🧡
You think A&M is a better brand than PSU? Seems so since you say A&M would absolutely be in with two losses but PSU would ‘maybe’ be in. Showing your SEC bias. Tell me how A&M has been a better team historically.
Well we haven’t seen Indiana struggle against any of their opponents whereas we’ve seen Missouri get waxed by the only ranked teams they’ve played but with Indiana they still have Ohio st left to see what they are really made of.
well... no.. but a win isn't always a "win". Indiana is winning in convincing fashion. For example, consider Nebraska: Ohio State edged them out with a 24-17 victory in Columbus, while Indiana dominated Nebraska just a week earlier, winning 56-7. Although Indiana hasn’t faced any ranked teams yet, their performances are more than just wins-they are dominating. IU is boasting a staggering score differential of 259 points over their first eight games.
@@og_goobert4230 The ultimate test for Indiana will come in November against Ohio State. While it’s great to acknowledge that the CFP is a definitely possibility for them, but the game against OSU feels like their National Championship. It just carries such a significant weight and will ultimately be the true measure of their capabilities this season.
Honestly this is why FBS should mirror the FCS playoff schedule go to the top 25 or something like that that way it makes sense what's the point of having a ranking and you can't make it into the playoffs evening college basketball no name schools have an opportunity to win the championship I swear FBS is so fixed
Targeting rules are terrible and badly enforced. Disagree with the way the rules are written and called...that being said, by the letter of the rule, how is that not targeting? Receiver seems "defenceless" based on rule and forcible contact is initiated to the head/neck area?
MARK this comment. Mercer will hang with BAMA and lead to strong criticism of their new boy. Auburn will stun them. Fire up Mr. Sanders. Sorry Colorado. Why you think Prime hangs with Saban in those duck commercials?
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What are your predictions for the playoffs?
curious your thoughts if Undefeated BYU faces Kansas State and looses in the big 12 championship game. similar situation to TCU a couple years ago.. in this scenario does a 1 loss BYU get left out?
Wow what a brutal remaining schedule for Michigan. That would be impressive if they could get a win (outside of northwestern)
Surprised no love for Washington St, even the ESPN playoff predictor has them with equal odds with Tulane.
I have to say, re: your take on targeting, its not just optics. It’s because kids aren’t playing football as much as they used to. My dad did but my parents didn’t let me. That will continue to be true for more and more kids each year unless they keep making progress on concussions
I predict that the teams that lose in the Power Four championship games are all in.
If Mich somehow won out the rest of the season, that'd be the wildest miracle of the century.
@@earnthis1 and Ryan Day would be fired
Love your show. It’s the best insight into college football anywhere. Thanks again. 👍
Regarding targeting: if targeting is confirmed, make it a 30-yard penalty and let the offending players stay in the game at that point. If the player commits another targeting penalty in that same game or in two consecutive games, then the player can be ejected.
Just keep it 15 yards
I love that you said Missouri played only two "real teams," lol. I agree!
My problem with the targeting calls is that offensive players are allowed to lower their heads into defenders. Seems strange to me
Agreed. I’ve never understood why the rule is one sided.
@Ermatinger503 exactly then the commentators all say the same cliché line ItS Not tO proTecT the offensive player its to protect the defensive player too. If that were really the case, then offensive player shouldn't be allowed to lower their heads either and initiate contact.
Great breakdown of the remaining teams/games still in it. Thanks for your work.
Joel acting like Pitt didn’t just win the ACC 3 years ago while beating Clemson on the way. Yes, we’ve won close games, but so has…Miami
3 years ago is like an eternity in college football because of the transfer portal. How many guys from that 2021 roster are still there?
@@mansionman777 I understand there's a lot of turnover in college football, I just meant that Narduzzi and Pitt have proven they're a program that can go toe to toe with the top teams in the conference and win. Is it likely they'll win the ACC? No, but to write them off completely after a 7-0 start with wins against 2 Big12 teams feels disrespectful, especially since Miami and Clemson haven't beaten anyone.
Also, your point about the portal actually only helps a team like Pitt btw, as they now have significantly more former 4 stars than that 2021 team.
I think if Army gets in they have a legit shot at upsetting some top 5 teams. That offense is something that no one is prepared to go against.
Alabama playing a High school team this late in the season should automatically disqualify them for any real consideration, especially while other teams play power school
What about Georgia playing Umass on november 23rd?
Aside from Oregons win over osu who has a better win then bama dose over Georgia ? Were gonna see 3 or 4 teams from the big ten and sec thats how this is gonna go. bama is very much still in this
@@KadenRoberts-vd2bnGeorgia scheduled Clemson in the non-conference while Ohio State scheduled 3 cupcakes. Sorry, but that more than outweighs whatever “advantage” you think playing UMass in November gives Georgia.
Power 4 should play only power 4. Group of 5 should break off and be their own division and have their own playoff.
A&M playing New Mexico State at home
I think K-State and BYU could both go if K-State were to beat an undefeated BYU is the Big 12 championship game
I'm glad there was a chance to get the targeting call reviewed and vacated. This is the third time this season an Ohio State player was ejected for targeting, and in approximately zero of those were they genuinely headhunting.
well in fairness, targeting isn't specifically about head hunting
Colorado being talked about is wild.
Joel!! Love the show. Love your thoughts and views on everything related to CFB. Who is in your Top 25??
This should be an annual segment the week prior to the first cfp rankings
There is literally no way Michigan gets into the playoffs stop it Joel
@@King77Lee it’s the B1G homerism
@@GoatedAtNFSKlatt played at Colorado? What do you mean?
@@micahschultz5795 he also works for Fox. Colorado doesn’t mean anything when it comes to B1G homerism
One of their losses was to a team that was at a point perceived by almost everyone to be the best team in the country. They have to play the current #1 team next week, #13 (and climbing) Indiana, and #4 Ohio State. If they win out, a 9-3 Michigan team showing clear leaps in improvement from the beginning of their season is in without question. Now the odds of them actually winning out and showing that leap in improvement is simply not foreseeable.
I agree with Klatt in terms of a realistic path to the playoff. With who michigan has left to play, if they win out, they can still find themselves in the B1G title game. If they win that, they are in. Where the realistic part is thrown out the window is thinking that Michigan can actually beat 4 top-10 teams (would have to face one again in the title game) to finish the year. It'd be a miraculous thing to just win one of those games.
Also Michigan fan btw
You are 1,000% correct Joel, the expanded playoff has made College Football BETTER, not worse, like so many morons before the season were saying it would
100% agree on the targeting. If the player is initiating the tackle, and the WR or RB goes low, thats on them. If they guy is going to tackle the WR at the waist, but he trips or falls bent over or something, whats the player to do, defy physics? Let him catch the ball? c'mon man, this rule longs needs an overhaul.
The should make PASS INTERFERENCE reviewable
They just need a TMO like rugby uses to assist the refs. If you've never watched rugby the ref can ask the TMO to review anything and give advice.
I would have them non reviewable but allow teams to challenge the call at the risk of a timeout.
Only two teams are at 80% odds of going. Oregon and Miami.
If Oregon wins out plus wins Big 10 title game, they will be one seed. That is the only Big 10 team that can get the CFP one seed.
If Oregon goes to CFP but not get a bye, the SEC winner will be the one seed.
The ACC will be the three seed, Big 12 the four seed with byes.
I think Ohio State needs the win over Penn State more than the other way around for making the CFP.
I believe if Oregon, Penn St and Indiana tie undefeated, Oregon would get the nod, followed by Penn St, to go to Big 10 title game.
Indiana has the weakest schedule. All three play Ohio State. Ducks already beat them. The other two play OSU in November.
All three with a win over OSU, eliminates Ohio State from CFP. I agree Ohio State needs to at least beat either Penn St or Indiana. A one loss Indiana with the loss to Ohio State should get them in to the CFP, provided no more than 3 SEC teams go.
If Indiana loses twice, they are out. If Penn State wins Saturday, OSU is only eliminated from the Big 10 title game if Oregon wins out and Penn State wins out or loses to another non OSU team. Indiana has to beat OSU to go to Big 10 title game.
Somebody thought FSU was the 10th best team in the country...
They went undefeated last year so I understand why they was 10 at the beginning
@@theshowstopper979 we can say the same about Mizzou then, they won 10 games and beat OSU in a Bowl game so they were ranked #11 preseason
Michigan, Your BIG 10 homer role is showing, You cannot believe that Michigan is one of the best 12 teams this year
I hope Steve sees this. Bet he never thought he would get a shout out like this.
Shout out Arvell Reese getting his BS targeting call that robbed him of A turnover and a missed half of on field development! Go Bucks
I knew he was going say Michigan. Their resume would be insane if they did that. Funny thing is: it’s possible. If week 1 Oregon shows up, anything is possible.
How can Joel include Michigan but not Florida? If Florida by some miracle wins out, beating Georgia, Texas, LSU, and Ole Miss along the way, they’d probably get in. Florida’s got no chance of winning all of those games, but Michigan has 0 chance of beating each of Oregon, Indiana, and Ohio State as well. In fact most power ratings have Florida above Michigan.
We can be done with Michigan. They had a great 3 year run that culminated in a title. Everybody’s gone, they’re not even a shell of what they were in 2021, let alone 2023. They have a 0% chance of winning out, just like Florida. Either put both on here, or put neither.
As bad as Miami has been in those 3 close games their sos, fpi, and sor are all still higher than Indys. But Indy definitely should be a top 8 team
Agree with the ejections rant. I definitely couldn't have played in today's game. Offensive players lower their heads on defensive players almost every play and its never called. Defensive players are at such liability
I honestly would be happier for michigan to make the playoff this season, than i was for them to win the championship last year.
It's gonna be 4 (SEC Teams) 3 (Big Ten Teams) 2 (ACC Teams) 1 (Big XII Team) 1 (Notre Dame) 1 (Group of 5 Undefeated Team or second Big XII Team)
Every 2-loss P4 team is still alive. They may not entirely control their destiny, but it makes no sense to eliminate teams who still have a shot at their conference championship.
Until the precedent is set. I’m unsure that all these 10-2 Big ten SEC will get these at large bids over 11-1 ACC or Big 12 teams.
I see 11-1 Pitt, Miami, Clemson getting in for sure over 10-2 teams
Same Targeting BS happened in the Boise State Oregon game. Boise State player was ejected, then NCAA overturned it after the game. Boise probably would have won had that not happened. But no one wants to talk about that. What else does no one want to talk about? The common denominator between the BSU Oregon game targeting and the Ohio State Nebraska targeting. Which is Big10 Refs
44:58 Sports science nutrition now shows that any greasy meals like bacon, sausage, etc would be detrimental for sports performance. Carbs in the form of pasta are good at least 4 hours before a game for long term energy and glucose (fruits) would be good for short term twitch and explosiveness about 2 hours before game time. PQQ and CoQ10 are good supplements for energy and stamina about 4 to 6 hours before game time. The body burns glucose (fructose from fruit as an example) for energy first and then it moves on to the glycogen stores in the muscles for fuel. That is where the pasta comes in. Glycogen is the primary energy source during exercise that's more than 70% of maximal oxygen uptake. You need to fill up your glycogen stores in the muscle with the pasta (carbs) and then fill out the glucose levels 2 hours before game time with the fruits, etc. I suggest juice with a hydrating powder mix that has electrolytes as a drink during the game in order to maintain glucose levels high and your high twitch explosiveness while reducing any chance of cramping. Not to much juice, you don't want your insulin to spike up to much and cause you to crash. so a diluted juice mix with water and hydrating pack like emergen-c. When those glucose levels get low or go, then you are just relying on your glycogen levels and your explosiveness in the 4th quarter tends to diminish. If you are able to maintain glucose levels high, stay hydrated and take some good nutritional supplements for energy conversion such as PQQ, CoQ10 and L Carnitine, you can maximize your body's performance output in the game.
I would like to see the targeting penalty switch to something like the nba’s flagarant 1 and flagarant 2 fouls. Only eject on the intentional or clear and obvious ones. 15 yard penalty otherwise
Love this idea
The NFL basically has this system too with the unnecessary roughness/unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. The player is only ejected if the referees review the play and confirm malicious intent.
Great show. Agree AP poll is 110% trash and always has been.
As a Duck fan Indiana appears to be one of the top 5 teams in the country atm.
Canadian here: I love college football and have for many decades. I do agree that the playoff is good for the fan bases, but I don't believe it's good for players.
If they're gonna have a 12 team playoff, cut the championship games: they're redundant. With this long season, the payments to players, and the transfer portal, college football has become a professional sports league, and these are college students 🤷.
I agree with the targeting sentiment. 1 only watch 3/4 games a weekend but it seems like 2-3 ejections a week and there are a 100 other games... Is it having a big impact?
I’ve seen Indiana play a few times now. With a healthy Rourke they can win it all
Jackson is really good. But Rourke is playing like one of the best QB’s ever in Big Ten.
@@swatisquantum I just hope he comes back. Indiana is a lot of fun to watch and they put a bunch of pressure on opponents d with Rourke out there. Really really efficient and effective offense.
I’m a Bama fan and I think Bama should be out. You wanna be national champs? Be elite and don’t lose two games. Now losses aren’t as punishing.
Agreed. Although I think you can lose 2 games in the SEC, so long as your losses are to some of the top teams (Not Vanderbilt)
@ maybe if everyone else had 2 losses
college football is dead...this is professional football....period
Naw it'll always be better than NFL. Pageantry and history and environment and the regular season means way more than the NFL
The SEC playing a cupcake in November is because of their 8 game conference schedule compared to the Big Tens 9 games.
Now I would complain, BUT the bigger SEC schools do normally schedule a tough P4 school for that 9th slot. Georgia had Clemsom, Bama had Wisconsin, Texas A and M had Notre Dame, Texas had Michigan etc....
And while the SEC didn't win all those games, they won most, against some really good schools. This is why the cluster of SEC teams with 1 loss happens.
Also I'm a B1G and PSU guy. Hoping to beat OSU this week, but they won the last 7 so.... not too excited. You gotta beat the man to become the man, and PSU can't beat the man.
If Oregon and Penn State meet in Big 10 championship, who wins?
I’m a Duck fan.
Probably Oregon 70-30ish. Honestly, I'm hoping to get that 5th seed, play a home playoff game, that will be our real white out and hopefully have a ton of recruits there, and then play the BIG 12 champ on a neutral field and maybe we get lucky. Franklin is starting to win me over this season, but after not beating OSU for 7 years Michigan for like 4, he has to prove himself again.
@@boybrushedred18 I agree that until Penn State beats Ohio State, it’s hard to take them or Indiana serious. I don’t think Ohio State is as good as the AP thinks in its rankings. Oregon is the only championship contender in the Big 10. Do I think they can beat Texas or Georgia? Not sure they can.
They got a better defense and an experienced quarterback, so that helps.
The Ducks could win out and not make the Big 10 Championship and be ranked one and not get a CFP bye. That would be unfair and stupid. Oregon has played a tougher schedule than Indiana or Penn State. They don’t need to prove themselves to the CFP committee. I think Penn State, Indiana and Ohio State do though. Not saying they are not good teams, but they are all ranked too high in the polls.
Hope they all prove me wrong.
@donaldjones9830 give it time to play out, these teams still have 4 games of conference play left. It'll work itself out.
But yea the system is unfair, I knew that from 2016 when both OSU and Washington got in over PSU.
But if you think about it, missing the conference game and therefore getting a home game is almost the same as playing the conference game and getting a bye. Actually you probably end up the 5 seed and get an easier opponent than in the B1G championship game and still play the same amount of games. Plus the next game you get the weakest conference champion whereas as the 1 seed you likely get the sec loser and the tougher opponent.
Point is, don't worry, let the season unfold.
Absolutely right about Indiana Miami comparison IU would probably beat Miami I think they can beat Ohio st Hoosiers are a great team this yr
Do conferences protect teams that have a shot over teams that have no shot? Officiating seems to be really bad this year.
Idk if it has anything to do with corruption, but I do think there is a cognitive bias. Officiating across the board has been abysmal this year though, so it could just be a bad year for officials.
Bro thinks the committee is going to take into account Michigan’s growing pains. First off, they’re not even going to beat Oregon lmaoooo
Joel, I’m a Michigan fan, and I’ll admit there’s no way we’re making the playoff this year. Too many problems to fix. Tag in Oregon, Indiana, and Ohio State!! LMAO
Joel Boise State already beat UNLV last Friday.
They can play each other again?
If you have 5 SEC teams at 10-2 or better (Ga, Tx, TAMU, Tenn, winner of Bama/ LSU) do all 5 make the playoffs or is one being left out?
Big 12- one loss KState beating undefeated BYU in Conference Champ game nets 2 Big 12 teams in the playoffs.
I know Klatt did NOT just say a 3 loss UM has a shot!
Big Ten =4 , SEC= 3, ACC=2, Notre Dame, Army, Mountain West 1 !
Ohio State will go as far as that depleted O-line can take them.
😂😂😂😂
Do you miss calling the night games? This is a question that I've had in my head for a while.
The Michigan copium is CRAZY. Obviously if they beat the #1, #3 team theyll be in but to call it "realistic" is absurd
What happens to the team that might be @ 10-2 and lose their conference championship, do they lose their spot to a team that didn't make the conference championship game?
Mercer - the first team the Dawgs ever played
Super pumped for the ohio state Penn state game
Yes, if Michigan wins out then yeah they should go to the playoffs, but the Vegas odds would have to be like +10000.
And Florida too. If they win out they should host
Is there a world where army and boise state both make it in? If they both go undefeated for the rest of the season that would give army a win over Notre Dame and would mean Boise State’s only loss would be the best team in the country by 3
Ind opponents combined record is 26 wins and 37 loses. Only Nebraska has a winning record. So they may get in with one loss, but 2 I doubt it. JMO
I appreciate the Michigan concept, but let's be real. There is NO reason to believe Michigan could win even one of those games.
so 4 big 10 teams get in?
Oregon 13-0
Penn St 12-1 (conf. champ runner up)
Ohio St 10-2
Indiana 11-1
i don’t see that
Joel, you say throw out the preconceived records, but then you give Ohio State brand recognition. Is it about on field performance or brand recognition? Their best on-field performance came in the loss to Oregon.
if their only losses are to top 3 teams in very close games then they are gonna be in.
Aside from Oregons win over osu who has a better win then bama dose over Georgia ? Were gonna see 3 or 4 teams from the big ten and sec thats how this is gonna go. bama is very much still in this
You didn’t even talk about Oregon’s remaining schedule or their path. What’s the point of that
He hates Oregon and intentionally leaves them out lots of podcasts. He'll talk about who they are playing and the strengths of the other team. He does media shilling for Ohio State as if they're paying him off.
Because they play literally nobody. Shame on TTUN and Fuskies for a record dropoff after the most meaningless title game ever
He did say they have the cleanest path, that’s a nod to the absolute cakewalk they have because Michigan and Washington fell off so badly. It’s unfortunate, but no one saw Indiana being so talented, and for whatever reason the schedule makers didn’t put Penn Stare on their schedule
Playing a “cupcake” team later in the season can be beneficial for getting valuable reps for your depth players while giving key athletes more time to recover. On the other hand, going through a gauntlet of tough games increases the risk of injuries.
I've never understood the hate for it. They are playing the cupcake either way... why care when it happens? I personally like more games earlier in the season that matter. Having to wait until week 5 or even week 6 for the first conference game is a lot worse than playing a late-season cupcake, in my opinion.
@@taxag1134it literally helps the other teams as well.
It still shouldn’t be allowed. Each team should get 1 cupcake game within the first 3-4 weeks of the season and then that’s it. No reason big league teams should be playing FCS schools in November
@Ermatinger503 to help them move up from FCS to FBS is why they play them. unless you are for keeping them in FCS. many people complain about why doesn’t NDSU move up from FCS to FBS. well money is part of it and with NIL, they cannot and will not compete.
you say only the first four weeks, then you complain when they don’t have a top OOC game in the first two weeks. LSU had USC (who is now trash). Florida had Miami AND UCF. Georgia had Clemson. Texas had Michigan (who is trash now). Arkansas had Oklahoma State (who is trash now). Vanderbilt had Virginia Tech. Texas A&M had Notre Dame.
Like the only SEC teams who had no legit OOC comp first 3 weeks was Kentucky (who started SEC play early), Ole Miss, South Carolina (started SEC play early + Clemson is the annual rivalry game at the END of the season), Missouri, and Auburn. that’s it!
Most targeting calls are BS. If you put your head down where your body or chest would be when a tackle is coming, it should not be considered targeting.
Ohio State is pretty much guaranteed to be in the playoffs 99 percent or the years under this structure.
Didn't this guy say that Purdue would give Oregon a difficult time?
How can you not have Wazzu out of the PAC-2? They’re ranked and only loss is to a very good Boise st, wins over udub, TT
WSU technically isn't in a Conference so no Conference championship. They would have had to go undefeated and be ranked higher then ND.
Idk about a 10-2 OSU with that schedule
Its better than Oregons and Miamis. Top 7-8 win over Indiana
They’ll get in strictly on bias and because they’ll bring huge amiunts of TV viewers. Their schedule is weak outside of a couple games
What has texas shown. Really wasnt that close with georgia and struggled with vandy. If they lose to A&M can you point to a good win?
Haha, no you can’t. Well, I still think Arkansas is a good win if they get it. However, they won’t be ranked.
@@Mattw1014Aight so I think if we lose to A&M we definitely drop but unranked lmao? That’s just objectively not accurate lol. You’re telling me a 10-2 team would go from the 6-10 range to unranked because of losses to the current #2 team in the country and the current #1 team in SEC play? Not our fault two of our biggest opponents fell apart this year.
Also, that was definitely not the same Georgia team as most of this season. That team hadn’t been seen since the Clemson game.
Of course OSU gets special treatment from the ncaa and big 10. Bad calls happen every week, but only OSU gets the rules bent for them
I can’t believe what klatt was saying breaking down the big ten. Just absolute insanity. Lost all respect for him after that goodness gracious
I don’t think the Kent State U Golden Flashes are going to qualify this year. With all due respect to Coach Saban’s alma mater…🏈
Still waiting on Joel to acknowledge his pick NAVY over Notre Dame! Didn’t age well did it Joel
So if Ole Miss beats Georgia and A&M beats Texas, SEC gets 6 teams in the playoffs? And Big 10 get Indiana Oregon and Penn state, so 9 teams from two conferences? With the only other 3 are the winners from the other 3 conferences? How is this fair? Conference winners shldnt be a thing, should just be top 12
I honestly agree with this. It should be the best 12 teams going. Unfortunately that’s really hard to determine, especially with the crazy bias that a lot of these schools get. Really there’s no “perfect” way to figure out who goes and who doesn’t. Conference champions is an easy way to determine the top seeds, but then it gets muddy fast
Honestly 9-3 Bama or Michigan or Georgia or Florida would belong over 12-1 Miami. 8-4 Florida would belong. I’ve had it with the ACC. They have one good team a year maximum and have held the sport down since Trevor Lawrence left. Miami gives up 45 to unranked teams. They are not good.
Well glad ppl like you don’t decide on CFB playoffs. We can careless if you’re done with the ACC buddy🤡. You’re calling Miami bad but want to keep Bama who lost to VANDY and even talking about UF? The team we put 40 on and curbstomped at home? Yeah you Miami haters are comical and so hypocritical it’s pathetic. You’re crazy ash if you don’t think an undefeated team should be in. If Miami is bad, UF is worse for losing to us and Bama even more worse for losing to VANDY. Go CANES!💚🧡
Trust man Florida is gonna win out and make the playoffs
Thank you for acknowledging that horrible pick from this Notre dame fan!
You think A&M is a better brand than PSU? Seems so since you say A&M would absolutely be in with two losses but PSU would ‘maybe’ be in. Showing your SEC bias. Tell me how A&M has been a better team historically.
Big fan Joel, your analysis is spot on! Trump 2024
If you’ve ever said keep politics out of sports, you owe me a dollar
Traitor
Jordan Turner’s targeting call should’ve been overturned as well. Orji lowered his head at the same time, complete BS
Joel Klatt Show = best
Targeting should be yellow card / red card. Simple.
Correction: The first playoff game was week three when Notre Dame played Purdue.
Michigan? Really?!
Simple math says multiple 10-2 teams will be out.
Has Indiana beat a ranked team? I mean you dogged on Missouri not beating a ranked team
Well we haven’t seen Indiana struggle against any of their opponents whereas we’ve seen Missouri get waxed by the only ranked teams they’ve played but with Indiana they still have Ohio st left to see what they are really made of.
well... no.. but a win isn't always a "win". Indiana is winning in convincing fashion. For example, consider Nebraska: Ohio State edged them out with a 24-17 victory in Columbus, while Indiana dominated Nebraska just a week earlier, winning 56-7. Although Indiana hasn’t faced any ranked teams yet, their performances are more than just wins-they are dominating. IU is boasting a staggering score differential of 259 points over their first eight games.
@@og_goobert4230 The ultimate test for Indiana will come in November against Ohio State. While it’s great to acknowledge that the CFP is a definitely possibility for them, but the game against OSU feels like their National Championship. It just carries such a significant weight and will ultimately be the true measure of their capabilities this season.
@@Tfostyy
Nebraska was ranked when Indiana destroyed them
Which part of Missouri has lost 2 games and Indiana is undefeated are you missing??
Honestly this is why FBS should mirror the FCS playoff schedule go to the top 25 or something like that that way it makes sense what's the point of having a ranking and you can't make it into the playoffs evening college basketball no name schools have an opportunity to win the championship I swear FBS is so fixed
Stupid idea
Wazzu doesn’t get in if they win out?
Nope!!! No Conference Championship really hurts them. Plus, they needed to go undefeated.
Boise st already beat UNLV didn’t they? I think UNLV is out
Targeting rules are terrible and badly enforced. Disagree with the way the rules are written and called...that being said, by the letter of the rule, how is that not targeting? Receiver seems "defenceless" based on rule and forcible contact is initiated to the head/neck area?
MARK this comment. Mercer will hang with BAMA and lead to strong criticism of their new boy. Auburn will stun them. Fire up Mr. Sanders. Sorry Colorado. Why you think Prime hangs with Saban in those duck commercials?
Beat Michigan! Let's go Ducks! 🦆
There it is CU
Comments on Big 10 out of conference schedule, Just as bad
Texas has only left Home for games except twice, and their schedule is weak, besides Georgia which they lost at home
Michigan has no chance lost to Indiana
Florida can still make the playoffs with 3 losses IF they win out
Why even talk about Missouri