Great guide overall! Having been lucky enough to drive more than two dozen laps of the Nordschleife, I will add a couple of thoughts for 1st timers at the circuit: 1) Do not take a rental car (Avis, Hertz, etc) to the track. They use GPS trackers and you will get a very large surcharge. 2) When you rent at the track, get an automatic transmission. I know that sounds bad...but you will be busy enough without having to focus on shifting. 3) Home driving simulators (Xbox, PlayStation, etc) are great, but they cannot give your body the feeling you will experience on the track. EG: The weightlessness at the Flugplatz or the negative camber at the bottom of Fuchsrohre. These can make your stomach queasy if you are not expecting it! 4) Take a break after the first two laps. You may be somewhat exhausted from the adrenaline rush that will hit you. It is a blast to drive, but it requires a lot from you both physically and mentally. 5) Start with a rental that matches your personal vehicle. Do not start with a 911 if your daily driver is a Focus. 6) As stated in the video, don't try to set a track record on your first lap. Work your way into the lap and build up your speed slowly. Above all else: A successful day at the track is defined by exiting the track in as good a condition as when you arrived! If both you and the vehicle leave in good condition, that is your win!
@@cobbomusic It's all relative... the IoM is way longer, Targa Florio is 4x the Nordschleife.. If I drive around NS in a decently fast car in a sim it's about 7 minutes. That's just not that long.. Targa takes me on average 45min.. And IoM 20-ish Also every time you drive it, it becomes more familiar, and it feels shorter somehow... And I have about 4000 hours in driving the Nordschleife in sims alone.. So for me it's not that long..
This is it guys, a new world record on the nords 2:44:30, i'm really glad you had the patience go through it all with such attention to detail. To be more in-depth than this only if you count how many trees are around the circuit. Awesome video!
Great video! Adding this to my bucket list, along with Spa. Still haven't mastered it in simulators. Hard to imagine racing on this at night. Those guys are fearless.
What an honor to be able to hear greats freely give such great insight and experience into this intricate and difficult track. Wonderful job keeping it accessable to those of us who are still learning. Cheers and big thanks.
i was hoping you were talking about Nordschleife when you mentioned you're preparing the biggest guide yet. this is what i really needed. fantastic work
Great tutorial. Adam does a great job of explaining everything on the track to even a novice. Loved the use of slippy, thought that was a Pittsburgh word. Congratulations on the win and many many thanks for giving us this. Best of luck going forward, you earned a lot of fans, myself included. Thanks for always making the distinction between car types. James
Absolutely love this. Back in the early Gran Turismo (and TH-cam) days I had found a ride along video with Allan McNish in his BMW and it was the most beautiful thing my young racing mind had ever seen. This has been my favourite track ever since that day. Such an amazing track. Has a bit of everything to test ya throughout a full lap
@@mslice55 I wouldn't call it shit. 1, It's laser scanned. 2, If you've set your FOV right its pretty good compared with what other sims have to offer for the same price. 3, Retry in VR th-cam.com/video/DRO2IOtsANg/w-d-xo.html The only shit bit about it is the lack of real Gforce, lack of on-lookers waiting to see you wipe out, the sounds of your car bottoming out and the lack of ability to drive off the premises to Pistenklause for a stake and beer.
@@souk-tv I can concur... I learned the track using Assetto Corsa, managed a sub 9min laps in GT86 on Semi's during my first time there (was a track day).
A mere 8 seconds in, and I'm throwing a like; basically just for the volume of work that went into this thing. Thanks, man! The 34 that clicked the thumb down weren't loved enough while in the cradle. Or after, really. A bitter bunch.
Incredibly deep and thoughtful. I've only driven there on sims, but even sections where I thought I had a good pace there's still time to shave thanks to this tips. Wonderful! Congrats
Loved the video, very good instructions, many details. Fun Fact: After 2:44 h (length of the video), in a race (including GP the track) the GT3 car would have made around 18 laps, 2 stops to refuel and probably already had a driver change. By the time we arive at Galgenkopf here, until the end of the video, a lot of people would have done a complete lap on the TF layout (~9 min.). ;) Thanks a lot, Adam and Scott.
Driver61 my God! Absolutely love this track on simracing. I'm about to watch the video, but I already know it's going to be great. Thank you so much for this incredible video!
Driver61 invent a time machine and go back 45+ years. It cost 10 german marks for 2 laps which you started in the pits and took consecutively without having to stop in the middle of the long straightaway. As a bonus you could also add the now defunct sudschleife part which added another almost 5 miles to your lap. At least that's what I recall it was like. It's been a while.
If things go wrong: Lock the brakes. Many people crash hard because they try to save the car, then the tyres get grip again and they head directly towards the armco.
Last week, the Skip Barber series on iracing was at the Nurburgring. Man it was so much fun. In the course of the week my time went from about 8:45 on the first go round to 8:16.1 as my personal best before the week ended. I know the even quicker guys were going 11 seconds faster. Give or take some more seconds.
Great guide, particularly helpful for those who have already been at the ‘Ring. You could have provided much more guidance on turn in points, there are plenty of references. Fully acknowledge that different cars = slightly different turn in points, but there is some consensus amongst instructors what the references should be for road / track day car. On that topic, the Radical is quite an odd choice here, it gets away often with very early turn in points due to the aero, nothing one should do with a road car. However, many valuable hints, so thanks for the effort.
I am not at the end of the video yet, but as it is not mentioned in the introduction, it is maybe advised to not go for a couple of laps in a row if your car is not track prepared ? just for the brakes, friend of mine in Porsche faced a completely "spongy" brake pedal after overheating obviously (2 laps in a row).. Just a noobie observation, never too careful :s
I was there 6 years a go. I practised for the f1 gp track. I did it and it was fun. But when I saw this track, how narrow and stip it is, I just got chils. Somone also died that day there, so they had to close the track. But now I will go back. I am practising every day in ac and automobilista 2.
I've been running this course on a BeamNG multiplayer server that tracks hotlaps, and after days of crashing or going off track too many times I finally hit a 7:23. Then after another day of crashing I hit a 7:21. Some of the times for the same vehicle (but tuned/upgraded better) are below 6:30! Hands down my favorite track
Thank you. I'm working on getting the world record on Project Cars 2 with the Sauber C9 LM. Trying to optimize Aremberg and Karussel 1. History will tell if I got it ("cosmo" on leaderboard).
Thanks for watching! Check out the Driver's Uni series including how to trail brake (bit.ly/2PypIMK) Find out your driver level by taking our scorecard test: bit.ly/2LmYNBA
Hello Driver 61 (Don’t know your name I apologize - anyways great video I can’t wait to put all your great advice to the test - thank you so much an drive safe Bro
Hey Scott... You could easily sell this guide for $99+. Why for free? I don't get it. Giving away guides for smaller tracks like Donington to gather people around your channel and site is good. But then you should charge for big guides for tracks like SPA/Nurb. Anyway, I'm really thankful for this... for Grand Prix Legends purposes haha
The distortion in the GoPro footage is quite excessive. It's good for explaining features of the track but it makes it look way more open than it actually is. Just a remark for other viewers.
Sorry to cut you off, but does this k- key type the letter k? And does this send- button make you send things? Oh so irritating, I feel bad for Mr. Christo. Thanks anyway, I managed to watch it through! Safe drivings for all, cheers! :-)
Enthusia had a system where if you touch the grass, you get a black flag, It was so difficult. My brother and I had a challenge to get no black flags. It took basically forever xD
Hey dude...last month Sebastian vettel said in vsc all drivers can gain some time by driving somewhat in racing line.....Charlie whiting accepts to change the software as soon as possible...could you explain that ...I could not understand
Could have been a great video. Ruined by the constant interruption, which didn't add anything to the explanation, especially for anyone who is new and wants to understand this famous track.
I fully agree with this. I wish there were a version edited down to only Adam's explanation. I'm struggling to get through it, cringing at every pointless interruption. Hopefully I can force myself to watch it all though as there certainly are bits of gold when Adam gets the chance to speak.
I don’t think we instructors or any experienced driver can stress often or strongly enough how impossible it is to develop race skills driving modern performance cars. Forget recent sports cars, an E30 M3 is way too much car for a novice. Even most very good semi-pro racers will never be able to extract 100% out of something like a race prepped M3 let alone a supercar.
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Great guide overall!
Having been lucky enough to drive more than two dozen laps of the Nordschleife, I will add a couple of thoughts for 1st timers at the circuit:
1) Do not take a rental car (Avis, Hertz, etc) to the track. They use GPS trackers and you will get a very large surcharge.
2) When you rent at the track, get an automatic transmission. I know that sounds bad...but you will be busy enough without having to focus on shifting.
3) Home driving simulators (Xbox, PlayStation, etc) are great, but they cannot give your body the feeling you will experience on the track. EG: The weightlessness at the Flugplatz or the negative camber at the bottom of Fuchsrohre. These can make your stomach queasy if you are not expecting it!
4) Take a break after the first two laps. You may be somewhat exhausted from the adrenaline rush that will hit you. It is a blast to drive, but it requires a lot from you both physically and mentally.
5) Start with a rental that matches your personal vehicle. Do not start with a 911 if your daily driver is a Focus.
6) As stated in the video, don't try to set a track record on your first lap. Work your way into the lap and build up your speed slowly.
Above all else: A successful day at the track is defined by exiting the track in as good a condition as when you arrived! If both you and the vehicle leave in good condition, that is your win!
Damn, you know a track is difficult when it takes nearly 3 hours to make a guide on it, great video!
It's 21km long
@@DreamBeatsBakery So that would be 7 times an average modern circuit....It's still rather short actualy LOL
@@jazzdirt how is that even near short
@@cobbomusic It's all relative... the IoM is way longer, Targa Florio is 4x the Nordschleife.. If I drive around NS in a decently fast car in a sim it's about 7 minutes. That's just not that long.. Targa takes me on average 45min.. And IoM 20-ish
Also every time you drive it, it becomes more familiar, and it feels shorter somehow... And I have about 4000 hours in driving the Nordschleife in sims alone.. So for me it's not that long..
Three hours?! I feel guilty watching this for free!
No problem, enjoy! Just check out the Driver 61 store if you need any kit. Cheers, Scott.
This is it guys, a new world record on the nords 2:44:30, i'm really glad you had the patience go through it all with such attention to detail. To be more in-depth than this only if you count how many trees are around the circuit. Awesome video!
6.783 trees
@@simtunning7357 you gotta be joking xD
@@dazentrieb4237 i checked it he is right
Wow, this is going to be one of the most important videos on YT for all levels of racing for ages to come! Thank you for bringing this content to us!
This is amazing, the amount of detail and depth is ridiculous. Thank you
No ads as well omg
Yes, thanks so much!
Llllll
Too bad I didn't know you were in town, would have loved to meet you!
Next time!
He could have given you tips to push the Sub7up even further.
When two TH-cam channels you watch collide 😂
Top ten anime crossover episodes
I would have watched that!
I watched this last night and actually found all the advice Adam said very helpful. Actually helped me put a lap together on Assetto Corsa.
I could totally see you become as big as Engineering Explained in the no so far future. You are amazing man. Keep it up. Respect from Iran.
Thank you for this, it is THE ultimate . Cant wait to watch entirely !!
Great video! Adding this to my bucket list, along with Spa. Still haven't mastered it in simulators. Hard to imagine racing on this at night. Those guys are fearless.
Finally，I am pretty sure this video will be popular on youtube for decades.
What an honor to be able to hear greats freely give such great insight and experience into this intricate and difficult track. Wonderful job keeping it accessable to those of us who are still learning. Cheers and big thanks.
i was hoping you were talking about Nordschleife when you mentioned you're preparing the biggest guide yet. this is what i really needed. fantastic work
Great tutorial. Adam does a great job of explaining everything on the track to even a novice. Loved the use of slippy, thought that was a Pittsburgh word. Congratulations on the win and many many thanks for giving us this. Best of luck going forward, you earned a lot of fans, myself included. Thanks for always making the distinction between car types. James
Absolutely love this. Back in the early Gran Turismo (and TH-cam) days I had found a ride along video with Allan McNish in his BMW and it was the most beautiful thing my young racing mind had ever seen. This has been my favourite track ever since that day. Such an amazing track. Has a bit of everything to test ya throughout a full lap
We should all listen and pay attention in life like Scott listens here... Intensely!
I can comfortabley bet my dear money that this video will get the love it deserves by millions of people in the coming years.
Now, let's try this in Assetto Corsa.
The Assetto Corsa version of the Nordschleife its shit, iRacing or RF2
@@mslice55 Hello shit
@@mslice55 I wouldn't call it shit.
1, It's laser scanned.
2, If you've set your FOV right its pretty good compared with what other sims have to offer for the same price.
3, Retry in VR
th-cam.com/video/DRO2IOtsANg/w-d-xo.html
The only shit bit about it is the lack of real Gforce, lack of on-lookers waiting to see you wipe out, the sounds of your car bottoming out and the lack of ability to drive off the premises to Pistenklause for a stake and beer.
ima try it on gran turismo lol
@@souk-tv I can concur... I learned the track using Assetto Corsa, managed a sub 9min laps in GT86 on Semi's during my first time there (was a track day).
Best reference video of Nords I've seen. Thanks to all involved, brilliant.
Thanks very much! If you can, please help us out and share. Cheers, Scott.
Thank you for your efford! This is the video everyone (driving the Nordschleife) was waiting for!
A mere 8 seconds in, and I'm throwing a like; basically just for the volume of work that went into this thing.
Thanks, man!
The 34 that clicked the thumb down weren't loved enough while in the cradle. Or after, really. A bitter bunch.
Amazing! I guess the most detailed guide for the Nordschleife. Well done guys!
Incredibly deep and thoughtful. I've only driven there on sims, but even sections where I thought I had a good pace there's still time to shave thanks to this tips. Wonderful! Congrats
I have watched this video 2 times now. Even though its long I HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH!!! Thanks guys. I also REALLY like the driver61 vids on youtube.
So much details and effort on your part, amazing
big love!
Loved the video, very good instructions, many details.
Fun Fact: After 2:44 h (length of the video), in a race (including GP the track) the GT3 car would have made around 18 laps, 2 stops to refuel and probably already had a driver change.
By the time we arive at Galgenkopf here, until the end of the video, a lot of people would have done a complete lap on the TF layout (~9 min.). ;)
Thanks a lot, Adam and Scott.
"Ingore the artistic part of the track" then circles it. I love it.
This is amazing 💯💯💯...only 15 minutes in ...I’ve turn my rig on ...over the next few days imma see if this works for me...but great work guys💯
Goodness me, don't have to worry about what to do next weekend I guess! Thank you for this!
Thanks Scott! All the videos are trully amazing!!! Cheers from Argentina, Puerto Madryn :)
Amazing work Scott and Adam!!
Thanks for a great guide I’ve done done over 70 laps on the Nordschleife but have learned here
gonna need a six pack of beer for this one :)
I just recently discovered your channel and it is excellent content, thank you
Let me know what your tips are for visiting the Nurburgring!
Driver61 my God! Absolutely love this track on simracing. I'm about to watch the video, but I already know it's going to be great. Thank you so much for this incredible video!
In the rift, press control and space bar to reset your view whist in the paddock!
Driver61 invent a time machine and go back 45+ years. It cost 10 german marks for 2 laps which you started in the pits and took consecutively without having to stop in the middle of the long straightaway. As a bonus you could also add the now defunct sudschleife part which added another almost 5 miles to your lap. At least that's what I recall it was like. It's been a while.
Don't miss out the Currywurst when you are in the Eifel ;-)
If things go wrong: Lock the brakes. Many people crash hard because they try to save the car, then the tyres get grip again and they head directly towards the armco.
love this! I'll keep coming back for reference, but I'm at 22 minutes and still at first braking zone :)
watching this entirely to destroy my friends in gran tourismo thanks G
Thanks lads, this is a massive help.Cheers
I will definitely get my hands on some Driver61 merch. Such an awesome piece of didactic work can't go unpaid.
Excellent Scott. The best Ring video I’ve seen. Have you considered doing live, webinar Q&A?
Last week, the Skip Barber series on iracing was at the Nurburgring. Man it was so much fun. In the course of the week my time went from about 8:45 on the first go round to 8:16.1 as my personal best before the week ended. I know the even quicker guys were going 11 seconds faster. Give or take some more seconds.
Great guide, particularly helpful for those who have already been at the ‘Ring. You could have provided much more guidance on turn in points, there are plenty of references. Fully acknowledge that different cars = slightly different turn in points, but there is some consensus amongst instructors what the references should be for road / track day car. On that topic, the Radical is quite an odd choice here, it gets away often with very early turn in points due to the aero, nothing one should do with a road car. However, many valuable hints, so thanks for the effort.
Extremely detailed analysis. Love it.
Aw man, I can't see this track without thinking of the great Sabine. She's truly missed.
Superb video - really clear. Very much appreciated 🏁
I feel obliged to make an alternate account to subscribe again. The quality and precision of the content is like Schumachers cornering.
Thanks Coach. Keep up the great work. 🏆
I put down a 7:01 on the Ring before watching this, hoping this will get me down to 6:45 this summer.
I am not at the end of the video yet, but as it is not mentioned in the introduction, it is maybe advised to not go for a couple of laps in a row if your car is not track prepared ? just for the brakes, friend of mine in Porsche faced a completely "spongy" brake pedal after overheating obviously (2 laps in a row).. Just a noobie observation, never too careful :s
chumaxa Some cars can't handle it but this track is usually quite gentle to the brakes compared to say a normal course like the nürburgring gp track
alles klar klaus I agree, took my car around the lap once and brakes were mildly hot.
Great guide thanks guys 👍👌
Wow this is GOLD!! thank you!
I was there 6 years a go. I practised for the f1 gp track. I did it and it was fun. But when I saw this track, how narrow and stip it is, I just got chils. Somone also died that day there, so they had to close the track. But now I will go back. I am practising every day in ac and automobilista 2.
Another awesome video!!!! Dude you are crazy crazy awesome!!!!!
Unbelievable this hasn't got more views!
I remember my first experience of the Nordschleifle was in PGR4 in the snow in a 50's F1 car
great efford, well done.
mans done all gold on circuit experience in gran turismo and the next thing u know is he's winning the 24h nurburgring.
Well, you are a 24h winner too!
Cool video you should get Vic Elford and Derrick Bell with these other drivers to add their input. Would be a cool production.
Fantastic work
you're a hero mate
'Mini Nurburgring' next? They do say Cadwell is a tricky track to master.
This is absolutely amazing holy shit
gonna need a six pack of beer for this one :)
I just recently discovered your channel and it is excellent content, thank you
I've been running this course on a BeamNG multiplayer server that tracks hotlaps, and after days of crashing or going off track too many times I finally hit a 7:23. Then after another day of crashing I hit a 7:21. Some of the times for the same vehicle (but tuned/upgraded better) are below 6:30! Hands down my favorite track
Thank you. I'm working on getting the world record on Project Cars 2 with the Sauber C9 LM. Trying to optimize Aremberg and Karussel 1. History will tell if I got it ("cosmo" on leaderboard).
Excited
Thanks for watching! Check out the Driver's Uni series including how to trail brake (bit.ly/2PypIMK)
Find out your driver level by taking our scorecard test: bit.ly/2LmYNBA
Hello Driver 61 (Don’t know your name I apologize - anyways great video I can’t wait to put all your great advice to the test - thank you so much an drive safe Bro
Love your Circuit Guides. Would you be able to do one for Circuit de Catalunya?
Holy FS. Thank you? I think? Thumbs-up, at any rate. For sure.
Thumbs up if your here from Assetto Corsa and play on Bandits server!
1 lap of the "Scheife" in 2h and 44,5m that's got to be a record of sorts ;P
Half of the views are from the 34 of us who watches this over 200 times ;)
I'd love to see a guide of Charade in France!
Massive massive huge thanks for that great job. A small question why is it say when I click on the map and work sheet Page Not Found?
I'm driving this track on Project Cars 2 and I have to say: it is not difficult to learn, you just need to concentrate until you got your flow.
and then you find some one in the same car model some how got around 40 seconds faster..
if Adam can manipulate the circuit
WHAT markers would he put on the circuit?
and
where ?
Hey Scott... You could easily sell this guide for $99+. Why for free? I don't get it. Giving away guides for smaller tracks like Donington to gather people around your channel and site is good. But then you should charge for big guides for tracks like SPA/Nurb. Anyway, I'm really thankful for this... for Grand Prix Legends purposes haha
Let's GO Let's GO!!!
Excelent!
Excellent step by step breakdown. And what was the lap time (just curiosity) in that Radical with two passengers if it was timed?
Nowww we go to Rf2 and try this
The distortion in the GoPro footage is quite excessive. It's good for explaining features of the track but it makes it look way more open than it actually is. Just a remark for other viewers.
Sorry to cut you off, but does this k- key type the letter k? And does this send- button make you send things? Oh so irritating, I feel bad for Mr. Christo. Thanks anyway, I managed to watch it through! Safe drivings for all, cheers! :-)
Could have used this info today. :)
Enthusia had a system where if you touch the grass, you get a black flag, It was so difficult. My brother and I had a challenge to get no black flags. It took basically forever xD
Amazing guide...
Btw , free map and worksheet link is down
Hey dude...last month Sebastian vettel said in vsc all drivers can gain some time by driving somewhat in racing line.....Charlie whiting accepts to change the software as soon as possible...could you explain that ...I could not understand
What the heck is a "mile per hour"? When was the last time that Lewis thought of a track in terms of "miles per hour"?
Could have been a great video. Ruined by the constant interruption, which didn't add anything to the explanation, especially for anyone who is new and wants to understand this famous track.
I fully agree with this. I wish there were a version edited down to only Adam's explanation. I'm struggling to get through it, cringing at every pointless interruption. Hopefully I can force myself to watch it all though as there certainly are bits of gold when Adam gets the chance to speak.
Coronavirus got me watching these
how did you not use Meisha for this guide? he can teach the course blindfolded.
Does this include defense techniques/strategies?
Watched this guide twice before my first Touristenfahrten #noincidents #passingporsches lol
This track is super hard in Assetto corsa :D
What's up with your hand size shifting 👀
We should call him Mr.Reference point
You do realise you now need to do a video for this with the wet line? 😉
YES! I love driving the ring in the wet. It's dangerous and slower but somehow more interesting, I often find.
I don’t think we instructors or any experienced driver can stress often or strongly enough how impossible it is to develop race skills driving modern performance cars. Forget recent sports cars, an E30 M3 is way too much car for a novice. Even most very good semi-pro racers will never be able to extract 100% out of something like a race prepped M3 let alone a supercar.