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A Ruddy Podcast: Powered By The Sack - Nemesis talks Emotions, His Esports Exile and FNC's Failures
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Nemi is so underrated. I don't care if he goes back to pro or not I just wanna see this guy be happy after all he went through.
Nemesisi*
Is he fr that underrated by people? I thought it was just known that he's one of the best mid laners/players in the world. I mean someone could watch 1 game of him at top of KR ladder and see. You can always hate on someone but his gameplay undeniable. 🚫🎓🍻
yes unfortunately@@hitlast1
@@hitlast1Nemesis has always been good (exept against Caps) but otherwise always been good and is still one of the best mids, but its hard to find legit job after one of the most well known and biggest esports orgs around the world black lists you (FNATIC), then you get black listed from LEC one of the 3 major region cause lets be real, nemesis doesnt want to ruin his reputation by going NA, he would lose all his credibility. Its good that he grinds in Korea, maybe at some point some LEC team would pick him up if he choses so also. Would like to see Neme in a pro level again, at least he has standards by not wanting to go to NA at any point.
What do you mean by Blacklisted?
@@leevimasalin2301
Think this interview humanises him a lot for those who might think of him as robotic and emotionless. Another banger
He's always been very human. Lot's of ego and zero self reflection.
@@jinzo_lord what ego do you think he has?
@@Shadow-ashlad thinking in absolutes, refusing to learn to communicate, refusing to consider other people's viewpoints, refusing to learn how to communicate and overall behaving like a stubborn know it all 12 year old even though he's like 25
@@jinzo_lordyou are right about him being subborn and dont want to hear less smart peoples opinions. Nemesis has an abnormally high iq which can in some cases (and his) make you a worse communicator. Its a normal reaction when you know better than other people, you dont want them to give out information that he knows is incorrect or at least bad
So you literally just embodied who Nemesis does not care about and why he ignores everyone that he deems dumb. You've already made up your mind that Nemesis is an egotistical person that does not reflect on himself (although he did on a few occasions in the video), you will not change your mind, and so Nemesis refuses to interact with you and consider your viewpoint.@@jinzo_lord
Since you're going to read these comments, Nemesis, I would like to thank you for streaming so much back when you were in FNC. I was going through a very tough period in my life and ended up tuning in a lot. Even though the times weren't the best for you, personally, with all the crap happening behind the scenes, you've helped me pull through my own rough patch. There you go, since you apparently value being an entertainer - I am grateful! Best of luck in the off-season or in whatever you decide to do.
thank you
i think there is a phenomenon where a rational thinking approach where you analyse things without letting emotions get in the way can be misrepresented as being cold or mean or even toxic. i think this misrepresentation happens very often with the things nemesis says, to the point that the misrepresentation itself has become the mainstream view of him
I feel like media is responsible for this to some extent because villains are usually portrayed as the cold, analytical type.
idk i heavily follow people who strive in more than 1 genre on higest level over 5-10years...grubby, lifecoach, even a PSALM have all a same different mindset--and they transition genres and again become toplevel. but nemesis to ME AFTER watching those genre-breakingly succesful gamers reflect--i feel nemesis is the most EMOTIONALLY affected and caught " talent" that has no selfdiscipline.
I’d day it is more about the way he delivers the message he wants to say more so than what the message is. People only ever care about being validated and respected, it is what gives any of leagues competition any value for nearly all of people. The social status that comes with it that is.
Ruddy with the holy trinity: Bwipo, LS, Nemesis
Indeed
The holy trinity is faker, ls, and tyler1
Man I wonder what a team with those two and LS as a coach would be, it will ofc. not happen but man
@@matthewskullblood9778true. LS, nemesis, Bwipo is the dark trinity. Faker, Tyler1 and LS are the holy trinity
it's so nice how neme opened up in this interview. He was so insecure at start but he loosen up. Good job Jake. ur doing great job making guests comfortable
Indeed
I mean yea if he stopped leading with those stupid questions about someone's past these interviews would be better
@@matthewskullblood9778 what are you on about, you want stupid normal ass interviews like the ones they give on broadcast? This makes so they open up and feel more comfortable. It's the trick!
@@matthewskullblood9778 why tf are you here boi, against some random ass tasteless interview?
@@booter5956the fuck are you saying
This interview felt so different from the one with LS. It's interesting to see such a drastic change in tone, I wonder if it comes purely from the guest or if ruddy was also in a different mood.
Great interview tho, thanks to the sack for sponsoring this and to you guys for doing it
I feel like he absolutely adopted the tone he felt was suitable to the interviewee. And I am impressed that Ruddy has this side to him as well. When he showed up recently, I think what people liked a lot of course was his sense of humor. And then we saw more of these deep dives with a little less humor and more seriousness. This one for sure went into even more serious things, but only because it felt necessary. Ruddy understands what people are wondering about Nemesis, the what if. What happened, how is he actually thinking etc.
Wow, after listening through the whole podcast its really crazy how far Ruddy pushed Nemesis and challenged him. Props for Nemesis for taking it heads on, as best as he could!
He sounds like someone who has been hurt very deeply in the past and has put up the biggest wall between himself and the world so that he cannot get hurt anymore. He just accepts that the world is full of people who are always going to dislike and hurt him and that it will never change. It's sad, but also interesting to see this side of him. Thanks Ruddy for bringing out this side of him, and for asking questions that are potentially awkward for both the asker and the receiver. You are a great interviewer.
Yeah this, imo the way he says he doesn't suffer fools is actually unhealthy. Without open commnication you can't exactly work together in a team environment.
Yeah, perhaps that's true for dealing with randos online but that's not good for dealing with people you are working with. Discussing with people who disagree with you and the willingness to adapt your viewpoints is how you grow as a person. He's basically saying that if it's not exactly the way he likes it then he doesn't want it at all. He holds himself as the arbiter of truth. He says that he has plenty of happy moments but he can barely think of one and it ended up being pretty obscure. All pretty unhealthy mindsets to have.
I like nemesis as a player and I agree with his self assessment of his talent. I hope he can moderate his mindset because it's really not good for his mental health.
Holy shit i hope you get some more funding these interviews are amazing, something the scene was lacking
Idk Jake, you just came in, did some funny silly interviews and now you did 3 podcast form interviews with 3 of the most interesting people in the scene. These 3 interviews were better than Thorins Reflections imo, and I really respect those. The 3 podcasts and the LS stream might be the best performances by an interviewer I have ever seen. Keep it up!
These podcasts are some of the best lol esports content in years. Keep it up!
I feel like this was the hardest Ruddy's interview I've seen. Very good job on building the bridges, pushing Nemesis to speak up and helping him to convey what he had to say.
I'd never heard Nemesis' take on talent vs hard work before and somehow he is one of the only people I've seen anywhere really, not just online, that has that opinion, I just couldn't agree more, very based
Famously Dopa has that opinion as well
when does he talk about this?
LS for sure has that opinion as well
@@jinchoilol starts getting into it at about 1 hour 16 mins
i think him linking his success to talent is ironically, the humble approach. if went with the other way around that he says he worked harder than others and that is why he is better, than to me, that would be more arrogant.
4kg in 2 weeks is insane weight loss. I'd imagine that it could very easily effect performance in game.
If he had low blood sugar during practice and on stage then yeah.
You possess a talent for bringing out a side of people that no one else in esports seems to be able to reveal. This consistently adds new perspectives to the scene and the guests. I have never seen such an in-depth and creative podcast before. Keep up the great work, you're doing something amazing for esports.
Truly incredible content. I was crying laughing at how hard the jokes bombed at the beginning. Your persistence is amazing.
Ahahha I think they’re good it’s just rough crowd
Bro became a trauma therapist this interview 💀
i was scared that whole podcast gonna be as awkward as an opening XD very good job man
Great interview. Takes a while to accelerate, but when it does it's really engaging. Dark vibes. Kinda what you could've expect. I hope he has a chance to prove himself at some point.
Man, I love Neme so much
NEMESIS PLAYED TRAVIAN???? Nooo way bro hahah I love this guy!! damnn that that takes me wayy back, I was actually insane at that game too sheesh, good job Rudy I loved you mentioning that, I really wonder how you managed to dig up his account name and even mention the villages, especially since you didn't play the game, u are a beast man
Great interview from both sides. Really hope to see Neme on stage again one day! I'll be rooting for you
I can almost see the soul of nemesis screaming for help every time he struggles to express himself!!
I think your questions and jokes in this one were some of the best
30 seconds into this and Nemesis looks like "What the fuck did I sign up for?!?!"
awesome job with the content! you're a really good interviewer, being able to adjust communication to many different neurodivergent people.
Thank you ruddy for you dedicated work. Brillant mate ! Indeed, we lacked these kinds of interviews on the league scene. Shout out to you and your team 🎉👍👍
Liking before watching is no risk, when it comes to Ruddies Podcasts 💪
Funny that what he said at 44:00 is exactly what Lobanjica said about Counter Strike high level environment.
Actually genius content cycle btw. Start with the best ones
Nemesis deserves a roster in LEC by far. He is honest, direct, and his standards are needed in the region. I believe the only reason he is not allowed back is because he doesn't play around the bush, he speaks and cuts through the fake EU protocol. Just does what he needs to do. Hence why he is booming in South Korea. I wish him success.
forg1ven didnt play around the bush either and even being the best in his role in the entire lec he was blaclisted for it since his actions have consequenses, what makes u think nemesis actions shouldnt have consequenses? orgs never want to have problematic ppl who destroy the team from within thats how it is, leauge is a team game even if u are better than avg, but u negatively impact your other players it is way more worth to get an avg guy who positively impacts ur team, best example of it is carzzy
@@PostonPL Looks like you didn't even watched the interview? Wtf did Nemesis destroy can you tell me? Like comparing him with Forg1ven which was one of the most toxic players its just stupid.
@@PostonPLI mean at some point it did become apparent that forg1ven wasn’t what he used to be. Post military forg1ven hasn’t been able to keep up with the best ADCs in the world like he used to be able to in 2014. His ego got huge and he still operated like he was one of the best instead of actually catching up to the current standard.
@@PostonPLeven Uzi, who was one of the best ADCs for a longer period of time than forg1ven was able to be humble and realize he couldn’t keep up after his break.
@@PostonPLForgiven was literally a psychopath who flamed the shit out of his teammates and pushed his support to drink through his abuse. Like HOW is that comparable to nemesis in anyway 🤣🤣 good lord man. Forgiven literally destroyed his teammates, they hated him. Nemesis wasn’t that guy. His teammates liked him, the management shafted him.
Ruddy I really enjoyed this interview with Neme, thanks for trying to understand him in a deeper way.
1:05:47 so true. Man i love nemesis
This was a really great interview. Props to Nemesis for taking those questions head on. It will be great if Ruddy adds chapter to the video.
"You are wrong" - Nemesis 2023
genuinely wanna see nemi learning korean language to some level , joining some top tier korean team and smashing everyone in the worlds stating a lot of points.
at 1:10:00 im gonna guess he forgot Zeka in the heat of the moment but he praises Zeka's Akali and Sylas fairly often on stream
I was wondering about that too...
these podcasts are fucking comedy gold, i love this, from being down to earth and emotionally aware to cracking random dick jokes, please keep going. The only criticisim i might have is the length of the questions. thanks bossman
Great interview. Challenged Nemesis on some concepts that i agree he can be too quick to disregard and kept the interview civil and entertaining the whole way through. I hope you get the oppurtunity to make more of these. Well done
Ruddy you put up the best esports podcasts, keep up the great work mate! I look forward to your next video!
Ridiculously talented interviewer, keep it up
THE GOAT IS BACK!
Your channel is amazing, keep up the good work my guy
Nice therapy in the last part of the episode
Just found this channel saw nemesis and thought oh banger guest but my god you guide the interview so well and ask such good questions well fucking done cant wait for more
Ngl ruddy has really good interview skills
Nemesis is such an honest person. That's why people think he is toxic. I remember how he even oposed LS on stream about Hyli and we all know how opinionated LS is. By the way Hyli proved Neme correct that same game they were watching and singlehandedly won the game with Rakan. Honestly I would love to see Neme and Hyli playing together again. I bet Hyli wants it too.
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1:00:20
Bookmarking these moments for when I want to laugh my ass off again
WOW the mood and atmosphere of this interview was so different but wonderful to watch and hear as always i fucking love Nemi but hearing the answers and how he acted this interview was great to see such a good content and hope people start to realize theyre so fucking wrong and dumb KEEP UP THE GREAT AND AMAZING CONTENT RUDDY AND REGAN!
this turned into a public shrink apointment with the elusive what if, very interesting, RUDDY UUUP!
imagine beeing able to draw something like this out of nemesis, you're a damn good interviewer ruddy
you burned a chance at an exclusive topic at the end tho
Ruddy up
I just watched this interview and LS interview and god damn, it really does feel like LS is one of those people that somehow could get to Neme, vibe with him and understand his thought process.
I don't really watch their streams at all but I understand they had some falling out? Are they still cross with each other?
They had a falling out around the time LS went to C9 (slightly before because Nemesis didnt wanna join and thought it was a bad idea and some other stuff)
As far as i know, they dont really interact with each other, LS still speaks highly of Nemesis and would have liked to be friends with him again but Nemesis doesnt really want to.
But LS was the Coach of Nemesis team in Druttuts tournament so i would guess they are on more neutral terms atm
@@chrismanich3063 Nemesis even said in the interview that he doesn’t see the value repeating things multiple times if they don’t work out. We know about a few conflicts that they had and it’s reasonable that Nemesis just doesn’t feel like he can be friends with him anymore. They always shared the same view on the game and both still respect each other.
@@chrismanich3063 LS probably said very mean things to nemesis when he refused to go with him in c9.
It is crazy how such an insane talent has no team.. Do you remember how many times he had solo killed the over-prazed Caps? Yes, in some games (when his team was winning hard) Caps had killed him too but even just looking at how Neme was top 5 all the time in Korean Solo-duo Q shows how great he was and even that he was better than Caps. If he were Korean many LCK teams would want him. Crazy!!!
Hardcore fan in chat. :D why you all so stupid?
Ruddy for LFN content creator? Already being sponsered by IWD.
This was a very deep interview, it appears that Nem has some emotional maturity things to work through? Being stoic was touted as a healthy and manly thing but the reality is that it's not actually healthy - it's isolating for the self and alienating for others the same way that being aggressive is. Talking is good and so is giving others understanding even if they are wrong. I am glad this interview happened.
Daaaamn that IWD Jab at the end 🤣
DonJake is bald
Can i say nemesis
Ruddy's interviews are really refreshing , love it
Donjake is the goat interviewer. The research is always there. The follow up questions. Greatness
I wish Neme all the best, he deserve it...
Nemesis is a rare gem
How fucked up is the scene, when a player with skills and mentality like this is not picked up for YEARS.
he doesnt accept the offers, what do u want the orgs to do lmao?
@@PostonPL offers from last place shit orgs lmao. Clueless
@@PostonPL 1:07:46 hey clown literally talking to you lmao
Bro I love your interviews 😂
18:43 did someone send this part to Ibai? Isn't he in MAD now? Mad really needs a good mid like asap. Also, I kinda agree on him that the scene has these rumors and wrong narratives of him being too toxic, those were long ago and ofc they're not fully accurate, I'm sure he has improved and I hope he gets a good chance
Another great episode brother. When are you going to have me on? Haha I'm just playing around. Anyways I hope you have a great day.
GET THIS MAN AN INTERVIEW
i would love to see more to the background of ngaming2017's life. I think ruddy is doing a mistake he didn't have you on the interview yet
This is what i imagine LFN content is
Keep it up @Ruddy !
Hilarious interviews. Keep it going
I like these because they're less league focused and more about the personalities
what is this sexual tension between ruddy and kassandra? is there something you wanna tell us?
I love nemesis the greatest crime in the last few years is the fact he has been teamless
Tbf he doesn't want the opportunites he's given. You have to start somewhere.
@@aeroshv23 You don't get the point do you? He won't join a team just for the sake of joining some team. Look at Jankos when he joined Heretics, it was a disaster bc of his teammates. The Jankos situation is a bit different bc he's at the end stage of his career, he has a good reputation and luckily he gets decent players in his team next season. Nemesis has nothing go on for him bc of the narrative that has been built against him. There's no point of joining a team and be stuck in a contract loop when you can stream, go to korea and get better.
@@somnus4532I feel like you dont get the point. Jankos is a good example. Look at what happned to him with Heretics, he had shit team mates but he performed out of his mind and everyone agrees that Jankos is still one of the best and Jankos gets much better team mates this year. Another example is Brokenblade. He was in Schalke who was last place btw and got picked up by G2 because he still did well eventhough the team was shit. All Nemesis has to do is join a team and perform well. Then he will get a team that's good and he will be able to change the narrative about him. Every good play has played in a some shit team before. If you dontt put yourself out there you will not end up getting any chances.
@@aeroshv23 I don't know whether you will understand this example or not but here are my two cents. Imagine if a programmer has an option to either work with a small company, do irrelevant projects that doesn't really put much of an impact on his resume OR to do independent projects, learn new programming languages + do other projects that showcase his talents that are needed in bigger companies. What do you think the programmer would choose? He'd go for the latter bc it makes sense. Going to KR and being in the top 10 consistently, tbf he is in the top 5 when he tries shows how good he is than other mids in EU.
@@somnus4532 yes he's doing well in Korea but what he is doing in Korea isn't really comparable to learning a new programming language is it? Also a programmer isn't playing in a 5 man team. He says he wants a good team to play in but he's kind of waiting around for this team to magically appear. I dont know if you remember but 2019 G2 wasn't assembled overnight. They had Perkz, then they picked up Wunder and Jankos, another year later they got Caps and Miky. This was like 2 or 3 year long process to find the right parts. My point is at some point he needs to join a team if he actually plans on competing. If you dont get it we are going to have to agree to disagree.
algorythm blah algorythm
really good interview
Wish this had the chapters thing so i could go to the questions i care about
Nemesis also played vayne mid when he wanted >.>
killer interview, need this guy on every big event
I hope to one day see neme on stage witch a good well working team.
fuuu I didn't know nemesis was a Travian player :D
Nice interview, bad lightning
Banger guest.
great fucking questions
Wish Jake pushed harder on if Nemesis said in draft that these champions arent playable (Galio/Velkoz) or if he simply stated it "a month before worlds" and let that be enough of a showing that he indeed did voice his opinion.
Hearing him earlier, saying that he doesnt want to keep arguing over the same thing, has me thinking that he might very well be quiet in draft, thinking that his comment a month prior should still be popping up in the coaches head (which is absurd). But from an outside perspective we wont know.
If, however, he simply went with it in draft due to the above, that is some crazy level of mental gymnastics and delusion. Genuinely hope im wrong.
Nemesis stated sometime on stream that he didn’t have much of a say on draft during FNC.
During TES, he was adamant that Ori was OP, and that FNC should either blinded her or banned her everygame (those Ori games were the only 2 games they won vs TES). He was also adamant that Galio was a terrible champ (the likely reason Graves was funnelled gold into), but it’s clear that he had no say on the FNC coaches.
He was mostly allocated champions to whatever the FNC players wanted him to play (source: YamatoCannon’s Bwipo interview).
most of the drafts back then players+staff could never agree with a draft where everyone would be happy. so often times, we would have these meetings hours before play and no conclusion was reached. 10 minutes before we play, usually people came to me to make decisions on what we play (knowing we will not all be happy). i was definitely NOT quiet in drafts, quite the opposite
@@Nemesis_lol good to hear
21:52-22:15 Yo he didn't have to do ls fans like that
1:21:20 cassandra mentioned guys
Thank you
Ok something has always seemed slightly off with nemesis (not in a bad way - just him being angsty and uncomfortable with himself) and it is pretty obvious to me now that hes probably closeted ... poor guy I hope he figures things out soon
we need him back in proplay asap
i hope you don’t change how you approach the interviews no matter how the jokes land. your videos are great mate. what’s ur prem team btw?
Arsenal
@@RuddyCorp this just shattered my heart mate i’m a tottenham fan… still love you though
@@RuddyCorp BASED
Love Neme. However I wanna ask WHERE is Hyli? Why isn't there any interview with the most fun to watch in the LEC - Hyli Baba? LEC would be so boring in the bot lane without Hyli. Check who was the most expensive player in the Caps's Dream team! Look what Upset and so many other players had said about Hyli! The most fun video with commnents about Hyli was of Wunder telling how Hyli stayed in the back lane bush for 2 min just to gank him and kill him with Yuumi in scrims.
Didn’t know Hyli was in Korea lad
when the fuck did Ruddy become a therapist
Kinda fucked up for DonJake to publish his therapy session with Nemesis
Hope to see him back so that he can show that's it's not just ego speaking. Have more trust in him doing so than in Gillius showing he's better than Jankos, but still saying he's going to be significantly better than Larssen and Humanoid off the bat does set a high bar for the return whenever it may happen
this is fkn awkward now. na thats how i expect a nemesis interview to go. poggers
Nemesis is obviously a "weirde" person to work with. Sure he is 100% more talkative in private settings. But he is also, on first contact, a pessimistic person which is for many people that hire a red flag. I love Nemesis and want him back in pro play, I also think that most of the LEC roasters are just friends hiring friends and not the best players. I understand why he wouldnt wanna join them, but thats the current situation. And I agree that he should just stream currently. Maybe in 1-2 season we get bwipo neme back in the LEC together, maybe with newcomers which Nemesis can respect
Greatest podcast ever
Maybe it is just me but I see a lot of similarity with Neme and LS where LS is the one to consider others' viewpoint and lost his mind over it whereas Neme is in his lane, grinding away but probably wont be picked up solely due to his nature of being too analytical, logical and not communicative enough to thrive in a team enviroment (LEC or LCK)
I mean he hasn't been picked up because he has actively turned down rosters for this very reason... he doesnt want to play with people who are not going to match up with what he wants or think about the game in a way he believes can work (As Bwipo said, if he thinks they are stupid then he wont want to play with them)
@@PeoplePleaser578 well that settles it then, no western team and no eastern teams due to language barrier
Honestly I have mixed feelings about the interview, but (sadly) mostly from Jake. I feel like some of the question were kinda invasive. Still great work though. And nice to hear some stuff from Nemesis, there were few interesting topics.
1:07:23 it’s impossible for a bad player or good player to not be recognized by someone who is good because the good players are always looking for signs, basically litmus testing their peers to gauge their level at all times.
Nemesis doesn’t need the praise of the public because it doesn’t mean anything to him. These people don’t even know what they’re praising from for other than maybe lifting a trophy. So when he says “other good players will know” he’s saying he only wants the praise or respect from those he considers his peers or greater than him.
My friends who are lower rank or have less understanding of the game than me have admitted that they have anxiety when they play with me because they essentially cannot hide their mistakes. They’re always being seen and in a way judged by me because they understand that I do know more about this game than they do.
@@ChoiceGG Reality is most "Fans" are lemmings. They play the game and make conclusions based on what they are told by talking heads and then they reshuffle all their opinions based on who wins or who lifts the glowy thing at the end. Which is why people suddenly thought that DRX were the best because they won worlds and rewrote the entirety of the 2022 season to make it so that DRX were actually good.
You should only want praise of those who are comparable or maybe even slightly better than you. rRandoms in any situation are not worth the time half the time because ultimately if you started losing - those people are going to call you trash regardless of how you play.
The only weird part about Nemesis is that he's sitting in the crease of that couch.
So because FNC let TES get ori.. and Nemesis had to play galio.. the series was lost and they had no chance?
Maybe stuff was given up in draft to facilitate the other players on the team?
Most of FNC wins started through botlane (even in the TES series)
And from what i remember game 4 was VERY winnable for FNC.. and basically thrown in toplane (after a few fumbles).. when Rekkless/Hyli got collapsed on by Sion and the rest of TES
Whole attitude seems very defeatist
Good to see Ruddy pushed him a bit on this
Anyway good interview
I think the whole point is that he told his team that they need to ban it on red, yet they didn’t listen.
They could’ve either listened to him or worked out a solution together.
@jonathanwedler7051 I looked at the 3 other series picks and bans with.. geng vs g2, drx vs dkia and jdg vs sunning. I don't see any bans of orri and its only picked a few times too. Now maybe it was sleeper op or maybe other mids knew how to deal with it
Either way the last 2 picks by fnc (khazix/Velkoz) were troll as fuck
@@Snootz86I mean knight is a known good player of Orianna/Syndra both who was very strong picks that tournament. What matters here is who you're up against. Both Nemesis and Knight being very good Orianna players. In both game 4 and game 5 TES banned Orianna on red side obviously recognizing it being a huge power pick that series.
@Zidust That's not because ori was some uber pick in 2020 though. It's due to Nemesis/FNC not really functioning if he wasn't on Lucian or Ori all split long. Don't think FNC won at worlds with him not on them
Showmaker, Angel, and Caps were the best performing mids at the tournament, and I think they had 3 or 4 games between them on it
I just think the attitude in general is appalling, how can you possibly win.. if that's the view going in.. and like I said the Galio (G4) game was well within FNCs grasp
@Snootz86 No he wasn't. Had to go back to see so my memory hadn't failed me. If you look at season 10 he had among the largest champ pools out of all midlaners in the league. Orianna and Lucian were only 15/68 games that year. He was probably their most flexible player when it came to champ choices.
The team itself was just dysfunctional on so many levels. BO1 games were probably easier then BO5 just because they got much more time to talk and plan between games. Must've been a horror when losing trying to agree upon what route to take following game that series.