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Tandy 1000 PC + CM-11 Monitor! Unboxing & Setup
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ม.ค. 2018
- It may not have been the SX model I intended to get, but this Tandy 1000 from 1984 is still a lovely computer to experience! Join me in savoring this retro tech as I attempt to set it up with Tandy DOS 2.11.
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"Intel 8088? But it says AMD!"
Yes, but it's still an Intel 8088 :)
AMD used to be an officially licensed Intel manufacturer back in the day! #nowyouknow
Already upgraded it to 640K RAM since making this video :)
i was about to say that looks like an AMD badge, thanks for the clarification Clint!
My 8088 machine can play it very well with just the 256kb RAM
At least runs ms dos games unlike a 64 bit windows 8 and 8.1 but finding a windows version that uses does with no issues is hard these days
The keyboard interface was redesigned in the Amstrad 1640 to make the design more distinct from the IBM PC. I suspect that's probably part of the reason the keyboard interface in the Tandy is different... though of course, Tandy wanted to try and keep all it's peripherals compatible too.
The V30 in my Amstrad is actually a Sharp, replacing a Fujitsu 8086
I like the Tandys. Their approach is very reminicent of Amstrads, including the surprisingly small size. IBM were surprisingly inefficient in their system building, they left a lot of scope for economies for other manufacturers to exploit.
The keyboard is mechanical. It's Fujitsu Leaf Spring linear switches. It's one of the smoother linear switches out there.
Ahh nice to know! It really does feel nice compared to its home computer contemporaries.
"Enough with the foreplay, time to get it open. " is, I imagine, Duke Nukem's smoothest pickup line.
He loses that sense of smooth a little while later when he excitedly exclaims "This is the furthest I've been with a Tandy." He dropped his game for one second and then the disk drive didn't work!
Aw, the poor old thing had one last boot up left in it...hopefully LGR can bring it back to life again.
Oh it _will_ live again
*** NOTE: someone pointed out that you CAN NOT put a standard Floppy mechanism in a Tandy - the pinout is different. ***
Tbh there didn't really seem to be much wrong with it. The fault seems purely floppy drive related.
Swap in a 360/720 floppy mechanism and it's probably good to go (ish).
gusbaker4u dirty heads I am guessing, a cleaning disc or teardown to clean the heads maybe?
This was the first computer we had my house growing up. This is amazing. This video really, really brings back a lot of memories. That boot beep. The keyboard sounds. Yeah total nostalgia bomb here. THANK YOU FOR THIS! Look forward to seeing your progress bringing this back to life!
We had a tl/2 so many Sierra games
Same here, at least my first PC compatible. The only difference is that we had dual floppy drives, and quickly upgraded the RAM from 128 K to 256 K. SO much better than an equivalent IBM branded PC, and cheaper too. 16 color Tandy graphics and 4-channel PSG sound. Wow!
Same here! I think my mom still has this computer.
Same here, my first PC as a kid. I used the multi-channel audio and GW-Basic to code Axel-F into it. Sounded glorious :D
The first one my family had was the TRS-80 "all in one" with the 8 inch screen. More than 30 years later my brother-in-law interviewed an ex-Tandy executive for a position in the engineering department of the company where he works. During the interview it was revealed that Tandy itself had come up with the nickname of "TRASH 80!"
Back when you could gauge how fast a PC would be by the scrolling speed of directory listings in DOS.
Neat! It's cool seeing you so excited, hehe.
I'm impressed at how well your mic picked up the CRT whine. I approve
Dude -- Be careful about replacing that floppy drive. The wire pinout is different than standard floppy. And at least one of the flipped pins is for power. Tandy drives some of them have a jumper for this thing and in other cases you need to do surgery on a floppy cable to make it interface with a standard drive correctly.
For best results, take apart the drive it came with and clean it good and hope for the best.
I'd assume this would be LGR's first resort: Very much into the restoration, that man.
And working 5.25 drives aren't cheap these days, so it's almost always economically more valuable to restore than junk at this point.
Not gonna lie. Watching videos like this makes me envious. I wish I was in your place.
There’s a special place in my heart for all the PC hardware of my childhood/adolescence.
omg.. clicking in despair on my "yt subscriptions" bookmark and there it is.. an LGR video! the day's saved.
Great video! Remember to avoid turning power on/off with a floppy disk inserted. The heads are always touching the disk surface and a voltage glitch on the heads can corrupt a small spot on the disk making a file unreadable. This was a golden rule with the first 5¼" floppy drive I had because it would actually do that.
Your excitement is so contagious when you get new stuff to work!
I don't know what it is about your reviews of nostalgic computers but I'm reminded of my days in college when it was on the fringes of a major IT era. Man, did I enjoy those days!!
That was my very first computer!!! I begged my parents for months to get one because I loved to play King's Quest at my friend's house all the time!
I don't normally watch unboxing videos all the way through, but this brought back so many memories. :)
I love these hardware videos - love to see your enthusiasm and passion for vintage computers :)
Oh man your voice is so nice to listen to...
I have a 1000 sx with two built in 5 1/4 drives and a external 5 1/4 drive. Just the case though no cables, keyboard or monitor. If your interested LGR send me a pm and I'll see what we need to do to ship it to you!
This channel really brings out the best in people.
wpl955g Might aswell be Lovable Game Reviews 😉
Not gonna lie your last 2 videos have brought so huge memories of mine. Every time you turn them on it reminds me of playing computer games in my grandpa garage. Thanks for making the Videos
I'm happy to hear that :)
I had one of these as well as a Tandy 2000, later on, and thought it was amazing then. But after I got my first IBM 186, I never thought of Tandy again. Great stuff dude.
I don't think any IBM computers used the 80186. The AT was a 286. Your Tandy 2000 was a 186, however.
I hope you continue with exploring this and fixing it. It would be a joy to watch.
the compuserve thing reminds me of my craziness back in the 90s. I used to use free phone numbers (unavailable to the public, like 0800, tollfree) to connect to the german Datex-P to connect to Compuserve to be able to connect to AOL to "enjoy" all the sweet AOL chat rooms.. man I was dumb back then - but at least it was free, only a waste of brain.
I DONT KNOW. I am trying to do this since 2006 but it haunts me all over youtube.
I had a 1000HX given to me a year ago and it works great! I believe I have the cm-5 color monitor. Love these old Tandy's!!
I worked in the QA department at a software company from 1986-1990. We were allowed to check out computers to bring home over the weekend, and whenever I could I'd bring home our Tandy 1000 to play games and write programs in BASIC. I wanted one so bad. I _loved_ the keyboard; it was so smooth. I had a TRS-80 Model III I'd bought in 1982 that was starting to look pretty antiquated by 1986. I could never quite pull the trigger on buying the 1000, but I eventually bought a Tandy 3000 NL (which was a 286) in 1989.
LOVE the old Tandy machines; hope you DO get this one to work.
My first thoughts are that the disk heads need some TLC. Some cleaning, and some regreasing, and hopefully that is all that is needed! Bonne chance, mon ami!
Now this is the kind of "unboxing" I really dig. :)
Nice! I have this exact same setup with all the original Deskmate disks. My mom happened to see it in the corner of an estate sale (along with a TL-2 in mint condition with a CM-4 monitor) and got everything for me for $6!
Amazing deal!
I love the smooth jazz themes you always have backing up your vids.
Tandy is candy for the computer and retro geek in me and others. Thank you i will see myself out.
Was it some American thing? My whole youth I spend wondering what mysteries that Tandy choice might be hiding, because most games would give Hercules, CGA, EGA, Tandy, VGA/MCGA as choices (or a subset of those) Yet I never found anyone, no family, no schools, no business with a Tandy. I knew more people with a Ferrari (2) than with a Tandy (0)
OMG, my childhood!!! The Tandy 1000 was the first PC (compatible in this case) computer I ever played with. I want to say my Dad had the one with 5 slots, but I can't remember. Awesome that you got one still in the box! I vaguely remember the day Dad brought home his from Radio Shack and un-boxing it in the upstairs bedroom. :D
Wonderful video. Thanks again! BTW, there's enthusiasts still making 8-bit expansion cards for old XT and compatible systems, if you ever wanted to beef this one up.
Thank you for the glimpse into the past. I never got to really experience some of these old computers you showcase and I find it fascinating.
I seriously can’t wait for your opinions on Sims 4 Laundry. Your videos are life! Thanks for taking your time and doing them. Very much appreciate.
Love it! So many memories...one of my best friends growing up had this computer. His name was Andy, so we started calling him Tandy Andy. (He wasn't a fan.) I spent SO much time as a kid at the Radio Shack in my little hometown, because my dad fancied himself an inventor and was constantly tinkering with electronics, so naturally I spent time admiring these. (We had an Apple at the time.) Still a cool machine!
Finally! My first PC! Thanks Clint. I regret tossing it in a dumpster back in the mid 90s.
I know it's hardly anything unique to this video, but I really dig that lowkey piano in the bg.
My first computer was a Tandy 1000. Thanks for sharing and great content as always!
I'm nerding out so much, it's rebooted my passion for my next semester of Computer Science!
Nice Find! PLEASE make some restoration videos with it. They are my favorite videos of yours. So relaxing and inspiring to fix some old hardware myself!
LGR time is my favourite part of the day. That soothing voice!
Man those boxes look sweet! I wasn't a huge Tandy guy, but man I wish I was. That system looks awesome. Oozing with nostalgia.
Woohoo! I was hoping you’d get to one of these!! The Tandy 1000 was my first PC. My parents bought it in ‘86 when I was 14... taught myself assembler on that guy :) tried upgrading it with an NEC V20 processor but it did nothing special because the clock crystal was still running at 4.77mhz
I draw happiness vicariously through your excited noises lol
GW Basic is my kind of Basic. Good old 1988 childhood programming times.
I started in Scratch and have moved onto Python. I am a very curious teenager who has just begun to learn programming and, hopefully, get better at Python. Lol
You should do a Tech Tales video on Radioshack, specifically the Tandy brand. It's a shame it all went away, I'm guessing because the computer market got too competitive but I wonder if things could have turned different in the long-term if they'd doubled-down on the Tandy brand or just computers in-general?
Nah. It went away because in the early 1990s, for some reason they decided to sell their computer manufacturing business to AST Computers, ending production of the Tandy line. AST Computers, however, DID end up having problems in the competitive home computer market. AST effectively disappeared in 2001.
My first PC was the Tandy 1000HX around 1992-93. I fondly remember having the pants scared off me in the early 90's playing Out of This World (Another World depending on region), sleuthing around for Carmen Sandiego, or firing up the dot matrix printer to print off my latest Mario Paint creation. Sitting here typing this in front of a triple monitor, water-cooled beast of a PC, I am humbled by the exponential evolution of technology:)
Great video. My 6 year old has a hard time believing computers used to look like this and not just a tablet.
Very cool! Hope you get it working proper and thank you for all the entertainment
I get all excited when LGR unboxes a new vintage computer!
Hi from the UK,loving the videos they're bringing back some great memories
You should open a museum, and show off all your old computers!
Probably dirt on the floppy going on the disc head, I had this problem when I booted up my Atari 800 after 30 years cleaned the magnetic media on the floppy’s carefully with alcohol and and the read write head and it works fine after that
Yep, after a good cleaning last week it was working just fine
Was about to suggest this. As magnetic media ages (tape, disk, whatever) certain oxide chemistries like to "shed" to the head reading it. Some older tapes I've recovered are a one shot deal as playing them destroys the media.
Look up "tape baking". Probably works for floppies too.
What a beautiful piece of tech. Hope you can get it working!
I have an SX with a HardCard and pretty much every other upgrade it would have reasonable had - internal modem, serial port with serial mouse, clock/calender chip, full RAM on motherboard - hooked up to a PCjr monitor with a TRS-80 2000 keyboard and I dig it for Tandy/PCjr games. It doesn't get used as often as my IBMs, but it gets used more than either of my PCjrs.
It doesn't have DeskMate on it currently, but eventually I'll get around to that.
LOGIN Noticias Not a Plus Development HardCard 20, if that's what you mean. The 1000SX and other 1000s of its form factor are too short for full length cards. It's a good thing the motherboards of 1000s generally allow for the full 640k, clock/calendar, etc as not having them and not being able to fit the full length AST SixPacPlus to cover that, for example, probably would have hurt them.
Anyways, the hard card in my 1000SX is an off the shelf controller and ST 157R hard drive mounted to a bracket. I believe the formatted capacity with an RLL controller is about 50Mb, but I think the controller it is on is an MFM controller that has it formatted as 40Mb, but I would have to double check. The package was put together by a company I hadn't seen before or since, something with peripherals in the name.
I enjoy watching these old computer videos takes me back two the 80s but I would never buy or want two own or use one again it would probably end up in the bin after a week lol ......great video lgr
'Sign on immediately' just makes me think its telling me to go down the dole office haha
My mom worked at RadioShack when they were new. My dad needed a computer for business use so he got the tandy 1000-A model. He proceeded to add a second floppy drive, expanded the ram to 640k, added a 30mb tandy hard card, and installed dos 5.0. I still have it and had no idea it could display color till I saw this video, all I have for it is the tandy green monitor. It looks great hooked to a TV playing planet x3.
Had one of these when I was a kid...thought it was the most amazing thing since my hand me down commodore 64, love this video
Oh yeah! Now you're speaking my language! This was one of two Tandy computers of my childhood, the other being one of the pizza box models. Got both of them second hand in the early 90s, along with a couple old Macintosh computers. Tandy really was the face of quality for the home computer user, their machines were competitive with some of the lower to mid end business models from IBM and cost about the same price as their home offerings if memory serves me right.
Sadly the Tandy 1000 died with a cryptic "boot failure" message that I now believe to have been due to the RAM becoming loose, which was apparently an issue they sometimes had. I wish I knew a little bit of what I know now back then, else it wouldn't have ended up in a dumpster somewhere.
Needs more Deskmate. It's not a Tandy without the goofy little operating system.
My Dad had a Tandy 1000. I remember playing King's Quest, BC's Quest for Tires, F-15 Strike Eagle, Ghostbusters, Battle Chess, some golf game and messing with some paint program.
Did you have the Tenny 1000 graphics version of Ghostbusters? I've been searching for it since my childhood. Can't find anything about it now :-(
Does not seem to have been archived anywhere so sad :-(
"Enough with the foreplay" slips into Duke Nukem
One thing I always love about LGR is when he has his giddy nerdgasms like at the 12:00 mark
The Tandy 1000 was my family's first computer. My earliest gaming memory is sitting in my mother's lap while she played Starflight on it. Man, the sound of you typing on that keyboard is like ASMR to me. I haven't heard that model's sound in decades. Digs right down into the nostalgia centers of my brain. I spent hours on that thing using the paint program that (I think?) was part of Deskmate. The ability to zoom way in always blew my mind.
"Enough with the foreplay" is SO going to be my new alarm clock sound on my phone. 1:01
This was my first computer!! She was a beast, but I loved her!! Oh the memories!
I'm so jealous. The 1000 was my first PC, a hand-me-down from my dad. It later went to my cousin and from there, who knows. It had two floppy drives and a memory expansion. I remember finding the empty box for the memory expansion card a few years ago with the sticker price.... 256k upgrade for $299!
Yet another vintage pc LGR vid yeah!
i love the sound of the boot up the slow wind up of the fans followed by the beep one thing i miss about old ocmputers is all the cool sounds they used to make
I just love the restoring of old computers, you never know what you are going to find and if it boots more then once.
Been working on a PPC640 recently and out of the blue the boot disk I wrote just stopped working, after being fine for a month or so, had to find another 720 disk with enough good sectors to be able to write another disk to verify if it was the drive or the disk.
There is a very good chance that my mother packed and or handled that PC as she worked in the Fort Worth facility at that time. From her stories it's actually a wonder any of these systems worked as they had a very caviler outlook on dropping/ tossing around units and shipping them anyways.
love seeing these videos as Tandy computers were not a thing over here in the UK so these are completely new to me, it was all about the Spectrum/Amstrad and c64 wars when the trs 80 was about
Kinda odd how having the original box makes it more perfect, LOL i had the original box for my PET 2001 and i took extra care of that one, compared to the other PET's i had.
FIRST! Nope? Darn it! This thing is up 44 minutes and already has more than 3K views!
Love the videos, keep being you :)
Yep! I've watched a lot of his back catalog of videos while benchmarking and testing stuff...
He makes great videos!
Yeah... I keep asking myself why I watch every one of these videos seeing I will probably never buy a vintage 1980s pc or let alone 90s. I guess it's just the nostalgia that keeps me coming back. Anyways I love LGR! CANT GET ENOUGH!
The Tandy 1000 seemed to prestigious when I was a kid. I still remember the TV announcer's voice from the commercials.
Back when Radio shack made awesome computers! Tandy computers had some fun games we used to have in our elementary school.
My first computer was the Tandy 1000TX....loved it! It didn't have a hard drive, so disk switching was a thing, but I loved it all the same.
Enjoyable video, as always 😄
Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. I had this computer while attending college from 1986 to 1990. if I remember correctly it had 4 floppies from Tandy that came with it. I think two were dos
oops mine was a sx.
I watched the 1-minute ad that played before this video...I hope that helps you LGR. I only do that for this channel
In 1987 My dad bought me a Tandy 1000. Brings back memories.
What a lovely machine! And you got Foone's Xmas disk! Bummer it didn't work. Hopefully the drive just needs a good head cleaning and some lubricant. Looking forward to see the restoration. :)
that circuit board is seriously retro. great pickup! :D
Holeeee cow. A Tandy 1000 SL was my first computer, so just an update above this one, and just seeing that Tandy logo literally made me tear up with memories.
Man this takes me back. We had a Tandy 1000 TX Which was the later version of the Tandy 1000. It was the PC that I grew up with.
It had a 286 8mhz
768KB of RAM
a 1200 baud modem (my dad used it for school)
40mb hard drive on a card
Builtin 3.5 Floppy + a 5.25 Floppy as well.
MSDOS 3.22.
So we had a pretty decked out PC for the time.
With the RAM upgrade it allowed us to Play games like SQ3 for example. I would recommend getting the memory upgrades if you can find them for your Standard Tandy 1000 to get it up to 640K if you want to show off games like KQ4 and SQ3 or any of the Sierra SCI games because they require alot of RAM.
I never knew CRTs were so dangerous back when my family had CRTs, so i would often stick my head close to them power up because I really like the sound of it.
Gives me the chills thinking about it today.....
the SX flavor was my childhood computer! if you take the plastic covers off the keyboard over the function key's you'll get other functions such as how to turn the turbo off (only can be done during post) and there's one that if you had 2 floppies, the function key pressed during post would swap the drives (a becomes b, b becomes a). That box so far is missing the deskmate software that came with the one from my childhood. (deskmate was a software sweet that had a word processor, spreadsheet, database, etc. and a lot of the Tandy branded programs won't work in anything but a Tandy) If you take the plastic things off that's over the function keys you'll get other functions like a turbo button (only works during post) A downside to the tandy line for the expansion slots you can't quite fit in a full length expansion board. That monitor is almost as good as an EGA. (just a warning, if you want to put a 720k floppy drive in it you'll be having to enter a host of debug commands to change the bios) you could do the big red reset button too to reset it.
Your videos just make me smile!😊
Ahh, memory lane. IIRC this was the first IBM PC-compatible my dad owned when I was a little nerdling in the early 80s.
Watching this channel makes me wanna buy a 486 PC and put my Gaming PCs innards into a 90s PC case. With a mandatory Turbo button.
How could you just wobble the Cardboard™ like that? THE RESALE VALUE, CLINT!
(Just messing, great vid as always!)
Ethan G resale value increased.
It's a piece of cardboard now shown on LGR and flung around by Clint himself.
In high school 1990-92, I had a 1000SX (dual 5.25" floppies) handed down from a relative. (it was already old - my best friend had an Amiga). Still, I spent many a happy hour playing Test Drive on that black and green monitor, when I wasn't logging into BBSes with my blazing fast 2400 baud modem.
Fantastic vid. It's always a gamble when you use old electrical stuff. Thanks
Always look forward to these videos .
A friend of mine had one of these when I was a kid, Radio Shack and the pointless customized proprietary peripherals made me think it was junk, but I was strangely curious about Deskmate, amazed by the colour and sound (coming from CGA..), and really appreciated the ports on the *front* of the machine. I was stupid for thinking it was junk, and an a*hole for saying it. Honestly an awesome machine. As a kid I remember not trusting half of what I heard because all that was available for free were paid for by sales departments, lies from small scummy computer sales people, and word of mouth from kids like me who were fiercely loyal to whatever they had and knew. Reminds me so much of the Android/iPhone battles today. I could say I should have researched his machine more... but seriously, how? Information was hard to get.
I'm jealous man. my first computer was a Tandy 1000. had so much fun with that thing
A Tandy 1000hx was my first computer. I spent months playing Sierra's Quest for Glory (Hero's Quest) back then and I still think it's the best game ever created.
I can't believe this isn't age-restricted, because this is one of the most pornographic videos I've seen.
ikr
Ban this sick filth?
what?
The subject matter naturally age restricts it
OwO What’s this! It’s you!
Amazing video! Love to see these classic computers! Keep up the good work!!
I recently gave my Tandy 1000SX and monitor away after finding it at my dad's house after he died last July. We had bought it new in the 80's and later upgraded it to 640k RAM. Learned to program in BASIC and PASCAL on that thing. Didn't have room to bring it home, so gave it to the realtor that helped sell the house. Hope he didn't just toss it.
My first PC was a Tandy 1000 EX. Loved playing my Sierra Online games, esp Space Quest and Space Quest 2.