Fixing the Weakest part of my Land Rover LR3 | Coil Suspension Conversion
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- Converting my Land Rover LR3 to coil suspension. This is the Atlantic British coil conversion kit with the Old Man Emu springs, heavy duty option, and 2 inch lift. The kit also comes with a module to clear fault codes and retain the terrain response controls.
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Nice truck TY! Thanks for telling us how it went. The good, and the bad. Cool dog too.
Thanks!
Looks GREAT bro.bout to convert my Sclass from airmatic to coil.
BEST thing you ever did, will save you a LOT of grief ! Had mine done 5 years ago and never been happier. O.M.E. coil conversion from Atlantic British is awesome, ride quality is excellent . Your Rover looks great by the way! :) Greetings from Canada.
Thanks! Loving it so far!
Haha triumph!!! I got the right rear spring in on my coil conversion, bad news I'm giving up for now on the left rear, the nuts are too rusty and stuck, so I've added a schrader valve and some airline to it and I'm going to have a hybrid air and coil rear!!!!! I've just got to put wheels back on and stuff and my little air compressor will be putting in 60lbs or so, I'm excited to see what happens....it may get me around for now, or who knows it might work fine. I had set up the airline to do both but the back nut on the right rear finally gave it up so I got that coil in this morning, I was going to have coil front and air bypass set up on the rear two, thanks to Far Reach Engineering channel for a great video on Air Suspension Manual Override
for a while I was having hard time with my air struts' although i had 2" spacer on top of each I still needed to replaces front struts' every year. I received yesterday the heavy duty air to coil suspension conversion kit and I was wondering if I should put the 2" spacers on top to gain more height? I do go off road often.
Also, how hard was it to install the module?
Great vid my friend , I’ve had 9 Land Rovers and the LR3 is favourite so far , this is my next job , respect from England
Your LR3 is looking good!
What size tires are you running? It may only rub on those frame horns rear of the front wheels.... they can be trimmed back easily enough.
Curious to see if it settles evenly front to rear, my 05 LR3 has the AB coil over, not the old man emu, but the standard coils... and it sits way too low in the back now. Thinking of swapping the coils for the ones you have. I stuck with the air suspension +2.5” Proud Rhino lift on my 08 and happy I did. Twice on trails now I’ve lowered it to clear overhead tree obstacles that I would of had to cut or re route had it not been for the air suspension capability to lower it. But yes theres a lot to be said for worry free suspension over the air suspension.
Keep it up! Doing great man!
Thanks. 275/65-18
Where did you get those chrome plated brake discs?. They look beautiful. I would be interested in getting them
There Should be a link in the description
Thank you
Friend, how did you remove the errors?
what tire size are you running i did the same conversion and am now looking for new tires your whll wells are filled out nice.
Everything is explained here:
th-cam.com/video/GWsyCFQ32zg/w-d-xo.html
Did you leave the ride height sensors plugged in or did you unplug them?
Unplugged them
I'm thinking of buying the coil overs from another supplier which allows you to adjust the height on the coilover. I was just concerned that they don't come with a module like Atlantic british. Can a land rover specialist clear the faults using their own equipmemt
I'd send Atlantic British an email as well as whoever you're getting the new suspension from. They may be able to figure something out for you or send you a similar module.
Acabo de ordenarlos en Amazon, espero poder instalarlos yo mismo.
How's that wind faring working out for you? I have it in my cart right now. Just trying to figure out if it's worth it. It's a bummer you removed the air suspension. The air suspension is actually pretty simple to diagnose and pretty reliable once you sort out the maintenance neglect from the previous owners but I understand your reasoning.
The truck is looking good man!
Honestly the wind fairing is just alright. It's not gonna reduce the noise down to zero but it definitely helps a bit. If you're a diy kinda person I'd say try to make your own before spending the money on the front runner one. Its just a slanted piece of aluminum. If you want the consistent frontrunner look then go for it. It's nice quality and fits well.
@@ty_zib I ended up ordering it last night so we will see how it works thanks man. can't wait to see the progress of your build
Hello, please can you send me information about the devices you used and how I can obtain it, knowing that I am in an Arab country?
How much was the kit?
I did that already and still got codes and problems with the system, air compressor still working freely, how you clear or disable the computer to not read suspension fault? And what is that madule do ?
That's exactly what the module is for. Clearing all the weird codes
How are you finding this set up after 6 months or so? I fitting the identical product about 14 months ago now. It was great for about 12 months, but I felt the ride slowly soften and now I’m essentially riding on the springs with failed shock absorbers. AB claim they haven’t seen a failure like this before and the fact I live abroad means they’re not really prepared to assist. Just trying to see what other people’s experiences are.
So far so good! Will probably be posting an update video soon here as I get a lot of questions.
@@ty_zib would be great to make an update video. I guess lot of people like me are waiting for the feedback. I have a 2013 lR4 and I'm thinking to switch to coils
How did you do for the code after you replace the new coil suspension?
The kit comes with a module to switch the vehicle into coil mode as well as deal with error codes
@@ty_zib where did you buy the kit at bro ?
Ordered direct through Atlantic British
I did the same with my 06 lr3..kits was from AB..my question is, after everything was installed..now i have warning light,abs light and brakes lights all lit up
Also..on the wheels dashboard, it keep saying " raising"
You should only have the red suspension light on and once the unit is hardwired, no lights. Maybe you knocked a wheel speed or brake sensor loose in the process.
I have an 08 LR3 with the 2.5 inch JRods. If I do the coil spring conversion do I lose these? @LifewithTy
They will become effectively useless since the air suspension will be removed. Keep them for a future build or sell them. Also important to note that most of the coil conversion kits are only a 2" lift and not 2.5" so tires may rub a little once converted.
th-cam.com/video/wLybIq2ClwI/w-d-xo.html here's an update
@@ty_zib i went 220k
Is it the view or it looks slightly higher than the when you mounted the 2.5" lift kit?
Maybe initially. Its settled a little bit since install.
2.5" lift? Does that make up for the 6 inches of lift you have now taken away from this truck?
You should switch your username to sodium chloride
@@ty_zib must be a North American thing as salt doesn't translate in English.
@@JohnSmith-yp3tq 6 inches of lift that fail when you do any real offroading and leave you with a sagging rear end
def thinking about this- just reduce complexity and thus vulnerability
So far so good!
Pneumatic suspension is genius,extremely reliable,in 2005 the LR3 was from another planet,today its simple,enjoy it, coils ?Don't be so silly🤣
What roof rack? Also what size tire and wheels?
Everything you want to know found here!
th-cam.com/play/PL2e6Fw4fWYnSImPXYx9xoiVfB24cVmkMJ.html
Was the control module easy to fit? The module that clears the faults? Thanks
I plugged it into the obdII port and switched the vehicle over to coil mode but I haven't hard wired in the module yet. Once Its hard wired the red suspension light will go away
What size the rims and tires do you have
th-cam.com/video/Y-u2adJsvdY/w-d-xo.html
Here you go mate. Details are all in this video.
How many outlets for 12V does a 2008 LR3 have ? Just wondering because no one ever mentions it.
Honestly a great question. I want to say one up front in dash, one for back seats, and one in the far back but I'll double check and let you know
Thanks Ty ! I emailed oxmanagain .. no reply. You answered within minutes. Thumbs up and a subscribe.
Arent they 4? (2 in the front,1behind center console and 1 in the trunk)
You might be right. I've only seen one up front but maybe there's one tucked in the glove box area or something
I wanna know how much did it cost for the conversion
Link in description
8 episode series comparing LR3 AIR Vs. COIL, Enjoy! th-cam.com/video/tpYfTOoBS8s/w-d-xo.html
and the bypass, how did you do it, that interests me
The conversion kit comes with a module
Hi, is the module needed?
It comes with the kit and it's used to get rid of suspension check lights
@@ty_zib I'm going to install it without the module, will that effect the driving? I don't mind lights in the dashboard.
I never drove mine without using the module to switch the vehicle into "coil mode" first. Only thing I can think of is that it might ding for low suspension or limit speed due to low suspension. Maybe send Atlantic British an email or call them.
Hey Ty, I had no problem getting the air struts out. And putting the AB coils in. But I can’t for the life of me get the lower control arm low enough to align with the strut? It’s an inch an a half longer, even with a friend and a pry bar I couldn’t get enough movement in the arm. How did you do this?
I think I had to unbolt the control arm to get it to fit. It's been a while so I'm trying to remember what I did. Hopefully someone in the comments can help!
What rack do you have?
Video here:
th-cam.com/video/xQPhvUltmtE/w-d-xo.html
@@ty_zib found the video. Nice that's the one I'll be ordering for my LR3 soon!
You went 180K miles before the air suspension failed?
Yup! Already put 5k miles on the new coil setup and LOVING it 👌
The air suspension is what makes the Land Rover a Land Rover. I have a 2008 SE V8 with 85K miles, I like to do preventive maintenance I fix before it breaks I changed the rear bags, all the air blocks and the compressor and it drives like a dream and now eventually going to change the front bags. They are great trucks but I know a pain in the backside when they break down. Anyway good-looking truck and have fun.
Thanks! Mine has 190k miles now so at this point I just want mega reliability and to not worry about fixing small stuff. I love the air suspension on the rovers. Coils just made sense at this point however.
It’s good till it fails
So...are the old defenders and disco 1's not land rovers
What did you use to jack up the vehicle?
I use a floor jack and several jack stands. You might have to use some wood blocks on top of the jack to get the vehicle up high enough to remove the wheels
GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How much would this cost done by a mechanic?
That would probably depend on what area you live in and what kind of shop you go to. I know that doesn't help but you'll see tons of different answers all over LR forums. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a couple thousand for labor.
I paid 400$
I have over 225k miles on my LR3. Only replaced one strut. Coils are for peasants
I'm currently getting my a$$ kicked with my air suspension. Placed new compressor, used my GAP tool to refresh and still problems. I want to bash head against an axe! Local shop couldn't figure anything out. Don't want to trailer it 100 miles to the stealership. Really wanting to do coil as I'm constantly afraid of this happening off road or far from home. I just don't want to lose the clearance abilities. Is it still capable of going to moderately technical places at that hight?
I've been loving the coil suspension so far. The fact that I won't be chasing down electrical or air leak issues is a major plus in my eyes. It also rides very comfortably. I've conquered some pretty intense terrain with my current setup with no issues. I had johnson rod 2.5" setup previous so the 2" is just a little lower. Also depends on your wheel/tire setup. If you've thought about it this much I'd say go for the coil setup. Spend more time adventuring and less time fixing dumb issues. 🤙
What’s the price
Link in description
How reliable are LR’s for a daily driver?
If you stay on top of regular maintenance then very. Helps if you are able to do a lot of mechanic work on your own too. If you buy one, make sure it has good service history. 👍
With any cars keeping up with maintenance and repairs will make this a very reliable vehicle. My 2006 LR3 drives beautifully. I also work as a service advisor for Land Rover so these car are more reliable than some newer Land Rover
They’re great cars but gosh the air suspension is terrible
If the answer is “They’re great you just have to stay on up of it and throw money at it” than the answer is NO. M3 owners say the same thing and they have to do preemptive rod bearing and throttle actuator replacements.
Welp. I also have an M3 so 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
The ride quality goes down a little.
Honestly Its been great so far. The suspension I removed was the original stuff with 183k miles plus on it. No complaints from me so far but it hasn't been all that long yet. Time will tell
Can you send me the link please
www.roverparts.com/suspension/air-coil-suspension-kits/L319SRK-A/
There's also a kit with the heavy duty springs on their site
Firstly, your car, your money and you choices.
IMO, swapping to coils just makes it like any other off-roader. Limited articulation without the cross link air system. Too much lift and you put long term strain on CV joints where you only get get that strain for short periods of time when in extended height mode.
Surely you’re just better off making sure the desiccant canister is refreshed as this seems to be one of the main causes of air suspension failure.
Dumbest thing done too a Land Rover replacing air suspension for coil overs.
No
h4 going on air suspension ... most mods on any awesome cars have air suspension ... you get it standard and change it ... fml most ppl don't apriciate what they have.........
To each their own 🤷🏼♂️
U don’t understand that the air bags are full of issues
@@ptescreen18 260 000,05 V8 HSE,2014 SCV6 ,100 000 not a single suspension issue airbags and compressor cheap as chips and easy fitting if required, not to mention the superior ride quality handling,and lift by a switch.
GENIUS.
great job, air suspension is rubbish, it even destroyed BL back in the 70s/80s by messing around with air systems.
Are you actually mad? BL was destroyed by strikes and the Austin allegro. If you had the slightest clue about about this truck you would realise that air suspension is one of the many reasons its such a capable off roader.
@@JohnSmith-yp3tq many a strike at land rover, but still everyone to there own, even the tribes people here would not drive one.
@@buffi944 yep think you've just proved my point at being mad
......and just so you know BL had zero input in the LR3 or as it really is known Discovery 3
@@JohnSmith-yp3tq hey baby, the old defenders and disco 1's didnt have air suspension and they offroad incredibly
Well I guess you panicked overreacted. I could have just fixed to compressor. They rarely fail I guess.
Selebalo Tsiu they always have a problem somewhere in the air suspension system so this is the best thing to stop all that
@@ptescreen18 I have mine for 2 years now but never had any issues... Truth be told I m scared of how much it will cost when I finally do.
Exactly! Mine has a lot of miles so I knew that I'd keep having issues. It's my daily driver and adventure vehicle so I need it to always make it home. Pros and cons to everything
Removing the air suspension from a LR3 is like removing your hands because you don't fancy wearing gloves anymore. Quite possibly the worst thing you can do to this car!
These people complaining about removing the air suspension must be all the LR3 owners that never take them off road.
@@TravisFisher the whole point of the air suspension is being able to take it off road.... look at the off road setting then extended setting then super extended setting with off road. Gives an extra 8 inches of lift. Thats why you don't do a change to coils.th-cam.com/video/9If59U6AEDM/w-d-xo.html
Well said Declan,spot on.
Why did you do that?? You’ve just killed the car. Nobody around me (including me) have serious problem with air suspension at all. Still original airbags. 8 years ago fixed the air comp. and going on. It was a cheap fix. We do all the off roading btw. Come on man!
I guess he panicked. Air suspension is LR3 is highly reliable.
@@selebalotsiu7139 Indeed
Truth is, people have more failures with air suspension compared to traditional coil suspension systems. The old defenders and disco 1's didn't have air suspension and they offroad just fine
Sounds like you didn’t keep up with your maintenance, and now you fitted coils to it, you’ve completely mucked her up. It’s such a shame when people do this to a Discovery or LR3
I've only had this vehicle for like 3 months and it has a lot of miles. I only got so much maintenance history when I bought it 🤷🏼♂️ I've fixed anything wrong since I've had it.
Mine is standard on coil and Ive never had too replace the compressor, valve blocks, bags or tank. unfortunately I’m a Landrover mechanic so had too change hundreds on customers vehicle
Mines not and neither have I. I just do maintenance
Gets to a point where long term future reliability and cost proofing is by far the smartest move.
My 2010 D4 with 275k’s all up 2” lift conversion fitted cost only $2700 here in Australia c/w potential $6000 in parts eg 2nd air-compressor replacement, air-struts, ride sensors etc over the longer term.
Btw my D4 has been immaculately maintained since new. Don’t hesitate.
@@jamesrebbechi4471 $6000 potentially.....hmmm must be buying the gold plated parts. Compressor is £250.....struts are £100...... remembering you are highly unlikely to have to change every component I'm amazed at your statement. Absolutely ruined this truck by changing it to coils. Lost 8 inches of lift and completely ruined its off road settings and capability.