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I’ve been boating for many years in Miami. This channel provides simple and clear useful information to help maintain boats. Tks for the work you do for us. Much appreciated.
thank you so much!
when I leave it in the water engines up, when on the trailer and parked, engines down. Another thing I do is turn the helm to full lock to which ever side pulls the steering ram back into its housing to protect it too.
Just got my first outboard boat. Axopar 28 cabin with a mercury 350. I LOVE HAVING AN OUTBOARD!!! It has 651hrs on it and runs Perfect! I flush it after every use and use salt remover twice a month. Everything is so much easier! I did my own service after watching your videos and appreciate your knowledge and help. Keep them coming!!
Here is another consideration for people that use their boats in cold environments. If leaving your boat in the water for a short time (a few days) where temperatures fall below freezing, keep the motor trimmed down in the water. I often use my boat for duck hunting in the Chesapeake Bay area in December and January. So I don't have to launch my boat in the dark at 5:00 am I'll sometimes launch it the day before and keep it tied at the dock. Maybe keep it there for a few days if I am hunting several times in that period. Often at night the temperature will fall to cause freezing of the water surface, but just a quarter inch below the surface the temperature is higher and the water stays liquid. With the motor trimmed down in the water there is no water in the motor passageways above the water line. The water in the lower unit below the waterline will not freeze below the crust of ice. And, at cold temperatures, there is little or no fowling marine growth.
Exactly. We all have to do that as the freezing starts here in the Nordic countries. Also keep the motor trimmed down as soon as it's up from the water.
Growth start here in July and ends in October. We have freezing nights in April and it normally starts in November så it's important not to leave your boats unintended during that period.
Yes Sir. Over here (Norway) the most used policy is: outboard engine down "off season" and up during summer. We only take the boat on land when there is serious ice and throw it back in the water as soon as possible after the ice leaves... (and then of course karma kicks in and the ice comes back ;-) ).
Another good idea for those without hydraulic steering is to turn the engine to port when stored, hiding the steering cable from the weather.
This is a great point that I highly suggest. My steering just seized up and this might have been an easier way to fix
Thanks for the heads up, I'm running my outboard every couple weeks, hull out of water due to repairs etc, didn't really think to trim it up for 15mins so oil could drain back to pan also, cheers great channel learning lots yewwww
Lol, "the oil can drain down to the crackcase" But shows us a 2 stroke motor :)
This reminds me of when I got my first 4 stroke 150 Yamaha. It burned 2.5 quarts of oil on a few quick runs. You guys suggested I run some ring free through it which unbelievably cured the problem . Thank you guys for your great info . I see the reason to leave it trimmed down on the lift and now why I should work it up also. Thanks again.. Chuck
I trailer and experienced the smoky startups. My mechanic recommended leaving a little positive trim while on the trailer, but I understand your recommendation to fully tuck after trailering home with positive trim. Thanks!
Great video. I’m always learning more and more information on boats. I have had a couple different type boats over the last 10 yrs and have always wondered about this same thing. Thanks again.
Very cool!
Always trailer,, and Rinse very well after every trip and it shows in my 1976 Grady, still looking like new
Years ago when I was an outboard tech I would tell this to the customer and explain the things you just did, the owner of the shop would also explain this and was one of the policies he had in his shop, since we would also store boats. Never the less customers would always forget, No matter how many times you would tell them. When I left Florida and went to California I had a customer who would always remember to tie a line from the dingy to his small outboard but he would never remember to remove the outboard from the dingy, on his way back to Los Angeles from Catalina Island, which is about 26miles away !!!....He would sometimes tow the dingy with the motor under water for 16 to 19 miles before he noticed !!...lol He would show up at the shop and say to me .....Dan I did it again...lol
I take my boat out of the water and on the trailer... evertime, also thanks for the good advice👍
Great information, never thought about it to much. Seemed common sense to leave it down on the trailer but the oil in the heads explained a lot with the smoke when I first started engine. Keep it up Arron you are always teaching us and I for one do greatly appreciate it. 👍😎🌴 stay safe out there.
Glad it helped
Great info! Just purchased my first boat. Wisdom is good!
I always take my boat out of the water, clean it and store it dry in the garage. I'm happy i have the space to do that.
On a lift. Thanks for the info. Read in the manual about tilting up and then down to properly check oil level but didn't realize it's a good practice after every use.
Geeeezzzzz! Thank you. Our boat is now kept on a lift. I have been doing it wrong for four years!... Aaron, you are the best!
why, thank you :)
Great info you identified something I never thought of. Thank you
I'm surprised electrolysis wasn't mentioned for leaving outboards down, especially in a marina!
Me too. Sometimes people can only trim the outboards out far enough to pull all the zinks out of the water and leave the prop and below unprotected. Seems there's an invention or two that could solve that problem but like usual, I won't work on it and instead, will watch someone else get rich with the solution. But I'll always know I had the solution first.
@@jonesjones7057 Many marinas today have lifts in them which allows the boat to be 100% out of the water. (Mine is that way) I think that’s what they may be referring too.
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He did say corrosion.
Aaron - My Pathfinder is always back on the trailer after use. Only exception is when staying on overnight trips. I always trim motor up and out of the water at the dock, and trimmed down and full left rudder at my covered storage in my Cypress, Texas. Perko switch is always off when on the trailer. Never had problem with corrosion. I fish primarily in Texas and Louisiana bays.
Thanks for this! I now clearly understand where to keep my engines and why.
Great advice I always kept it trimmed up in trailer
I keep my boat on a trailer I trim down and at the end I put a 4x4 wood piece and rest slightly the engines lower unit on it to take weight out of transom.
Did not know about the trim oil. Boat is on a lift. Will trim up as I am cleaning the boat. Thanks for the excellent advice.
Good advice!!! Thanks for the tips!!
This was very informative and something I was wondering about. Mine's on a boat lift and I was just keeping it down to protect the trim but didn't know about the oil issue.Thanks!
Thank you
In freezing conditions , duck hunting winter trolling on northern lakes etc. It is best to leave the lower unit in the water to prevent damage that may happen to a tilted up motor. Damage to the impeller or the lower unit itself can happen due to water trapped in the lower unit that freezes and expands. You Southern boys don't have to worry about this!
Thanks I always like your vids. I learned the hard way of keeping the motor trimmed up, as here in Alabama with freezing temps I believe that caused my O rings on the prop shaft carrier to freeze and go bad and start leaking. I will have to start leaving it in the down position in winter.
Great advice, thanks for sharing
Im gooood to gooo !!!¡¡¡ never had 4stk and never will, I keep my 2 smokers till I die. Dont have to worry about AAANY of that, always trimed up, in or out the water, for short or long periods. LOOONG LIVE THE 2 STK 💨💨💥💥
Thanks for the great videos for boating.
In the water for the season here in NJ. On a trailer in the off season. My old Yamaha 150 still has the tip of the torpedo in the water even when fully trimmed up. My boat must have gained weight over the years. So the torpedo tip gets crusty. This year I think I’m going to “stripe” the trailing end of the lower with aluminum safe anti fouling paint so the “torpedo” and the back of the skeg don’t get crusty with barnacles
Where have you been my whole boating life. Great information….
Thanks for the video. It’s a couple years old but certainly still relevant.
got mine of the lift just outta the water and ready to go thanks for the vid
It used to be common hear in Florida to have a thick plastic bag like thing you placed over the lower unit and put detergent in to inhibit growth
Trailer & lift...I have an I/O and never leave boat in the water...fresh water only. Enjoyed the video..
You mean to say oil will go past the piston rings and into the combustion chamber. When talking about keeping the motor trimmed up a little.
I can't believe electrolysis isn't mentioned as a reason to keep it out of the water. Trim it up out of the water primarily to avoid electrolysis. I've seen stray dock current can eat a hole in a lower end case in less than 2 months. Also, stainless props look nice but are a much harder metal which transfers any shock to internal parts. Aluminum props will bend and break if you hit something, but its better than buying a new lower end, IMO.
And if you have an aluminium boat there can even come holes in the manifold if that shiny nice prop is in the water. Weakest link et.c...
First of all even with your engine trimmed up the engine mount on the transom is still in the water, Secondly your phone should be properly protected through the use of grounding wires and sacrificial anodes! What do you think boat owners do when they have I/Os, Even when the drives are in the up most position they are still usually have submerged! If a boat or your Marina has a problem with electrolysis your sacrificial anodes will start deteriorating before any of your aluminum, That is literally what they are there for!
I have a 2012 Xcursion tritoon with a Merc 115. It's always on the trailer. I store it with the motor up, resting on the "pin rest" to take the strain off. Sounds like I should keep it down for a few minutes to let the oil drain down before I leave it up. I would leave it down always except the marina tows it for me to covered storage 'til the next time out. Thanks for the tips!
I do both. In water and on trailer for many trips. Usually pull out of water every 2-3 weeks and clean or when pull to hit a lake.
Thanks for all your videos. I learn alot by watching them. Keep putting out videos. 👍🤙😎
Thanks for watching!!
OMG. You actually mentioned Outdrive!! When are you going to do a video/s on outdrive servicing?
Thanks for the video. Is like a Continuing Education for boaters.
thanks!
Thanks, docking outboard for first time, needed this
Glad it helped!
Put some copper free bottom paint on the outboard lower unit gearcases, if like mine can’t lift high enough to clear the water while in seasonal marina slip.
Never thought about where the oil was when the motor was in a specific trim spot (up/down/between). Great info! Thanks for sharing!
Glad to help!
I take my boat out of the water every winter and have it on land till spring, and while its on land i change the oil, and gear oil, also check the spark plugs and fuel filter also cleaning the carbs.
Good information as usual 👍🏼
Mine boat is all time in the water, i just trim outboard up and thats it.
One time a year boat goes out in marina to clean it up and put new layer of antifouling.
That normal here in Mediterian.
Regards from Croatia :)
Trimming down tonight! Thanks
Sold the Big boat, Now I trailer the bay boat. What a maintenance saver! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
0:12 talk about instant reactions! You would've thought they were being shot at. 😂
Love the videos, keep it up 👍 👏
Outstanding video guys - Thank you...... You just added 200 hours of life to my engines.....
Glad it helped!
If you keep your boat on a lift in saltwater, start your freshwater washdown after boating by trimming up to properly rinse your trim/tilt components first, especially the $800 trim motor! Wash the rest of the boat. Then a quick trim system spray from a spray bottle of salt away mixture before you lower the engine...completely. (In addition, if you have a four-stroke, you've also covered the oil issue)
You explain so well ! Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
The best part of this video is the short clip of those jumping out when the engine backfire
Few things i didn't know 🤔 thanks for sharing 😃👍
However, on the winter, when the nights get negative degrees, you want to leave the lower unit in the water to prevent freezes inside of it.
hello, I would like to congratulate you on your channel and the information you share. Your videos are very complete and have a mechanic’s view, this is very good and also generates a lot of credibility. on seeing your latest tips i would like to know if leaving your engines in clean fresh water can cause some kind of problem. being more specific, I use barrels with water to sweeten and start the engines at least once a week for a period of 10 minutes. thanks
thank you!
A benefit of an outboard motor I never considered. Hmmm. Next boat may find me in a different zone.
Good topic. Enjoyed. My boat is on lift in western florida. I leave it all summer in down position but should tilt up while cleaning according to your instructions. A separate topic but related. When on a lift unattended for the summer would you recommend removing the boat’s drain plug thus allowing bilge water to escape if bilge pump fails. Conversely, if there is a storm surge seawater would come in through plug opening. Been wondering about this for years. Used to leave out but Irma surge let seawater in boat but pump was able to keep up, now have gone back to leaving it in. Sorry if off topic but a lot of people have boats on lifts and are gone for long periods.
Awesome video once again very informative I would leave my boat in the water for 6 months now I’m in Florida on a trailer I like the trailer better
I live in northern New York,. There are a surprising amount of people that store their boats outside, with the lower unit up, and the bow down. That way everything can fill with water and freeze or rot. I also see many people tow with the motor fully trimmed up, which seems would put a lot of extra strain on the transom. A little up so it doesn't drag sure, but all the way up seems unnecessary.
Here in indiana while we have a shorter season we definately have alot less issues. The o ly real concern is proper winterization
Love your channel 👏👏👊
Something for I/O owners, when you park your boat out of the water turn your steering straight and trim the drive down as much as possible. This reduces stress on the components between the transom plate and gimbal.
Polished rams?
When I was taught hydraulics.
They called that part “the shiny bit”
😂😂😂😂
Honestly.
It was in all the training and works manuals and was always referred to as the shiny bit.
I don’t know if that’s a British thing.
Or just an RAF thing.
But if you took the undercarriage off a fighter jet, that bit of the ram was always referred to as the shiny bit in all the manuals.
Polished ram sounds better tho.
I like that.
And your explanation for not leaving the engines tipped up made a lot of sense.
Thanks for that. Excellent info.
I have no experience at all on fixing boats.
I’ve worked on HGVs, vans, cars and planes.
But boats have problems I’d never even considered.
Or would think of.
So your channel has been a great find.
There is no substitute for experience.
good info thanks 🤠
Great video! Very informative... good to hear we're doing it right!
Thanks for watching!
My V-20 Wellcraft didn't clear the outboard from the water. It had zincs and saw regular use with a 175 Evinrude but in the marina electrolysis rotted through the hydraulic piston for the power trim/tilt. My Maritime Skiff 2090 had no such issues. Hang extra zincs. I suppose?
I store my engines upright these days and run off a trailer.
I will tilt the motor all the way down anytime it is in deep enough water as well as when on the trailer and parked. The only time I trim up except for under power is when towing the boat. I also keep the engine down when running off plane because if not your power steering doesn't work well
I trailer mine. And thanks for the update.
I remember at one time you could buy a external zinc set up, with a cable and clip it to your bonding systems. This would help with the electrolysis issue.
There was slso a drain plug that was a One Way plug that let water out of yhe hull, but stopped it from reentering it into hull
Very good, congrats for the video, when possible video anodes, thx
Salt water will raise hell with boat motors. Fresh water flushing after EVERY outing is mandatory. Spray all your hydraulics too and wipe them down.
Used to leave at the dock all summer but what a mess to have to clean every fall so now I trailer it
Live in Norway keep my outboards always tilted up. And here its cold. Dosent matter a bit. Engines up all the years have been fine for 40 years
I have a pressure washer that I use just twice a year. I flush the pump with something called, pump saver. Pump saver comes in a small aerosol can which replaces the water in the pump under pressure with some kind of oily preservative. The can has a hose bib fitting. Might this stuff be good for long term storage of an outboard? If you push pump saver through the engine it could help preserve and prevent corrosion in cooling passages, thermostat, and impeller.
on the trailer thanks for the info
Was really hoping to see some attention to transporting boat on trailer...I've got a 9.9 4stroke Honda on Jon boat and have always tilted engine up for transport and a broom handle under the bracket in pinch point.
But have also seen plenty of guys on highway with there engines all the way down by the road.
Seems like both are hard on transom
Thank you!
I trailer my boat and therefore always leave the outboard trimmed up. I’m not worried about the hydraulic seals because my Honda outboard has a metal stop you can swing down for the outboard to sit on instead of the hydraulics. I’ve never thought about the rams being protected by the hydraulic fluid when retracted. That’s a really great point!
it is not only the sun on seals, it is the heat in the rams from the sun & salt that ruins the trim seals
I think he's referring to the tilt, not the trim.
Trailer home, flushed, cleaned and put inside the shop. I run a dehumidifier to dry the excess water.
Every time I see motors trimmed down with growth it causes me pain
I keep y boat in the garage. I always make sure there is grease on the seals of the trim motor. You don't want those seals to go dry.
Not sure I'd take advice from a fella who points to the cylinders of a OMC V6 two stroke looper and talks about issues caused by the oil draining towards the combustion chamber
Great content, good information.
nice, thanks!
Good information 👍👍👍
How about a video of your recommendations for cleaning/flushing your motor on a regular basis?
I have an I/O that gets trailered and only used in freshwater. I had no idea that I should be timing down when storing long term. I may need to put some jacks on the rear of my trailer cause I can't trim all the way down while on the trailer (maybe only 5/8 of the way).
I'm a new boater. I am learned a great deal from your videos. Thank you for that.
If my boat is kept in a marina all summer and on land all winter, should my engine be kept in the down position when not in use during the summer? What position should it be in during the winter when stored on land? I have an I/O engine.
I have a 150 johnson ocean pro. 2 stroke. I keep mine trimmed up, but it rest on a lock rest or whatever its called. It looks like a fork, but the motor rest on that. I spray wd40 on the rams and all around that trim stuff. Never had no issues. I run motor at least 1 time every other week. Being doing it for years. And years no issues. If it gets real cold i make sure all water is out of lower unit and wrap it up. No issues. Tough motor though.
I've been thinking "transom savers" (and therefore trimming up) are an important part of storage
Lifted in the Boat Barn every time I go ashore overnight or longer so as to ensure that I have no problems with the anything below the red line. You see I inherited my boat along with a pipe made of the buildup one finds that the water line when they leave their boat in the water which is why my PT boat is now made out of a stainless steel. And yes now I know I have a whole new list of problems but I prefer these problems my original idea was steel with a bronze sheet overlay and I decided against that the next idea was steel with a malignant disulfide treatment coating but I found a dairy that was closing so I went with stainless instead because the food grade tanks were quite marvelous at taking care of most of the issues that I was worried about and quite durable if taken care of appropriately.
Thoughts on mixing 2 things you said. I leave my boat in the water (salt). I usually left the engine all the way up and then hold in place with mechanical latch. I usually back down the cylinders some, but sounds like I should back them all the way in. Thoughts?
Thanks something I always wanted to know!
You bet!
Why i like my outboard over i/o . I trim up out of water and flush motor with fresh water on quick connect . Also noticing my lovely 2 stoke is outlast my friends with newer 4 strokes.