Camp Trans
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- Amid the punk ethics of 1990’s identity politics, trans activists Leslie Feinberg and Riki Anne Wilchins spearhead a movement to protest the trans-exclusionary policy of a women’s music festival in CAMP TRANS.
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A good primer on the very first few years of Camp Trans and its history with MichFest.
But it is unfortunate that this short doc does not really get into the fact that Camp Trans continued its protest event until at least 2008 or 2009, and that a great deal of its ongoing work (work which disseminated the issue of trans inclusion in women's space beyond that dirt road in Michigan and out into the greater United States) did not involve Wilchins or Feinberg who were involved in the event for a minority of years.
It is especially unfortunate since the narrator, Julia, was actually there with us, putting in the work. As an actual primary source, she could have easily been tapped to offer more than simply reading narration.
I honestly wish this type of stuff was shown in school for history
Zombie Gamer598 same!!
I wish they would teach the mitchfest murders where one of the leaders of camp trans Dana Rivers went into a lesbian families home who attended mitchfest, and brutally murdered the wives and their son.
@@liberatedlezzy3859 wait WHAAAA???!
@@strnglhld this person is a trans exclusionary “radical feminist”, you can tell by the account. these are transphobic misogynistic people who’ve co-opted radical lesbian and feminist struggles and reappropriated them to fit a bioessentialist, sexist narrative that all trans women are “violent rapists” and that all trans men (like me) are “confused misled lesbians”. i know this comment is rlly old but i just thought i’d let you know! thank you so much, have a good one :-D
@@strnglhldthis is sort of misleading; it happened over biker gang issues apparently. nothing to do with the camp itself but obv a horrible tragedy nevertheless. an insane murderer who happened to be trans. its equally crazy to say the killer being a woman who was trans had anything to do w it, a disgusting attempt to push reactionary narratives that also result in the deaths of marginalized minorities.
God Serano’s narration style drives me nuts. Thanks for the upload though
I love learning about Camp Trans, I just wish I was alive back then so I could experience it in person, because from what I’ve read through TransSisters, it sounds like it would be heaven on earth.
Amazing!
Recording trans history is so important, this video is beautifully made and I would love to see more of the casually erased history as well as sources.
There's quite the handful of distortions. But this also leaves out the most horrific part of the story. One of the reasons that Mitchfest couldn't continue is because on of the Camp Trans organisers went on a killing spree and murdered a Mitchfest organiser, her partner and their adopted son.
Not content to intrude into a women's festival, Dana Rivers decided to kill women associated with Mitchfest.
And how many real women are being harrassed and assaulted in our own formerly safe spaces now? By biological men? Happy, boys?
They were in a biker gang - unrelated events. Dana killed a friend who was not associated with Michfest.
So… the actual facts are that Dana Rivers, a trans activist who attended Camp Trans once in 2000 - as an attendee, not an organizer - brutally murdered a lesbian couple and their son in Oakland in 2016. The victims never attended MichFest or had any relation to the festival, and the state argued that the motive was related to a women’s motorcycle club. However, Kara Dansky, a prominent TERF blogger covering the trial, speculated that Rivers’ real motive was anger over her victims attending MichFest. This was despite the fact that there was no evidence that the victims had ever attended MichFest, nor evidence that Rivers had any affiliation with Camp Trans after 2000. Kara Dansky herself posted a note on her blog recanting the MichFest connection. It is an extremely sad and upsetting crime, not made any better by people trying to fit it into their own political narrative based on rumor and speculation.
Thanks so much for creating this channel
Is it worth mentioning that 5 months after this documentary was made, Dana Rivers, one of the stunning and brave trans-identified MEN, who the women didn't want at their festival, MURDERED two festival-goers Patricia Wright and Charlotte Reed and their son.
Basically the exact thing that the women wanted to protect themselves from, happened.
They were in a biker gang together - the murders were unrelated to this event.
@@dakotamadeleinel.1973 no idea if that’s true, but either way it proves their point, doesn’t it. He was a violent man who didn’t belong in a womens festival.
@@dakotamadeleinel.1973additionally the claim that Charlotte Reed and Patricia Wright attended the festival had since been walked back. There's no evidence they ever did so they motorcycle club was their association
@@freedomishealthy1086 “no idea if that’s true, but either way it proves their point, doesn’t it.” That’s just transphobia in a nutshell isn’t it. Literally accusing someone of murder (multiple cases of) and then when you get called out on false information it’s suddenly oh well I don’t know for certain but if it HAD happened I’d be right. Get a life.
@@malcifer9950 erm, no I said I had no idea if the guy's claim was true.
The guy who was banned from the women's festival because they were worried he was a violent man and not really a woman "inside", murdered two women.
So they were right about him. Yes?
Dana Rivers.
but also leslie feinberg who is a great activist
She went once in 2001, that was it, and we don’t even have definitive proof that she actually went, just word of mouth
I believe she did attend once, and that it was actually 2000. She wrote an article about attending CT on her website (still available on the internet archive) and mentioned that the organizers were from the Chicago/Boston Lesbian Avengers, and that a group of 8 boys/dykes were sold tickets, which would put it solidly in 2000.
But I can’t find any evidence that she was ever involved as an organizer, or that she was affiliated with CT after 2000. Nor is there any evidence that Rivers’ victims had attended MichFest themselves, and in fact Kara Danky herself recants it on her website. So it seems the MichFest/Camp Trans connection to the murders is a red herring promoted by some TERF bloggers.
Looks like Jamison Greene, PhD was one of the first 4.
subtitulos pleaseeee
What a beautifully-made, informative, sincere little film. I'm so glad you made it. Thank you.
(I'm not crying, you're crying)
Doesnt seem to mention the murders for some reason
@@johnconnors6412 Or the s3m3n stained, threatening flyers littered through the woods, or the homemade spears and other weapons wielded while these MALE slimeballs stalked the perimeters of the land.
@@johnconnors6412probably because that happened over 2 decades after Camp Trans was invented and Camp Trans was disbanded in 2008/2009. That case has no relevance to Camp Trans whatsoever.
I'm glad that Michfest NEVER changed their womyn-born-womyn policies. They shouldn't have had to sacrifice their beliefs to satisfy male ego.
I agree.
Me too
I'm sorry you are weak but the world isn't built to accommodate your irrational fear of other women.
You bastards broke Mich Fest. Happy now?
A bunch of spiteful men take something away from women . LGB DROP THE T .
You're forgetting that the B does a lot of the enabling of the heterosexual T. There should be a movement for the L, the G, and the exclusively same-sex attracted T.