Michael Jordan only had 11 full seasons with the bulls. All of them are on the list. In 1986 he broke his leg three games into the season and in 1995 he was coming back from baseball at the end of the season
Facts. 1985-86 Season MJ only played 18 games that "Season," and he only played 17 games that 1994-95 "Season" he returned from his first retirement. Combined those games total 35 which isn't even half a full season. So what MJ did in his 11 full seasons with Bulls is truly another level.
@@tiredoffools8929 and the majority of those 18 games that he played he was on like 16 minutes max playing time because the coaches were still worried about his legs
Yep...He only played 18 games in 86-87 and only okayed the last 17 games of the 94-95 season. Per game all-time at his position MJ is 1st pts,1st blk,2nd stl,3rd reb & 5th in ast. That’s top 5 in every category,top 3 in 4 outta 5 categories.He’s the only only player in nba history to accomplish that. Per game all time at his position Lebron is 1st ast,2nd pts,9th stl,13th reb & 17th in blk. That’s top 5 in two categories,top 3 in two categories.Great but not on MJ’s level clearly.Especially his defensive and rebounding numbers.The only category Lebron better’s MJ relative to their position is assist.We all already knew/know that because that is the ONLY thing Lebron has ever ‘had on MJ’. MJ is #1 all-time in P.E.R. in both regular season and playoffs. He’s #1 all-time in win shares per game in both regular season and playoffs. He’s #1 all-time in BPM in both regular season and playoffs. He’s #1 all-time in VORP per game in both regular season and playoffs. He has the most scoring titles all-time. He made the most all-def 1st teams all-time. He lead the league in scoring and made all-def 1st team *at the same time 9 times*. Wilt,Russell,Kareem,Bird,Lebron,Magic,Kobe,Hakeem,Shaq,Steph,Kd never did it once.Not one time He has the most trophies all-time with 22 in 1,072 games. For context Bill Russell and his 11 championships is 2nd all-time with 17 trophies in 963 games. Lebron is 3rd all-time with 16 in 1,411 games so far. Kareem is 4th all-time with 15 trophies in 1,560 games. And for the brand new Wilt fans out there he’s 10th all-time with 9 trophies in 1,045 games. There is no debate...except for the fake one nick wright and shannon sharpe have been pushing for yearS now.
@@jeromrharris1126 Yes, but he only played 11 FULL seasons, he played less than 20 games in 2 of those seasons. 1 because he broke his foot in the third game of the’85-‘86 season, and in the ‘94-‘95 season when he came back with 18 games left in the season. His wizards years don’t count, as he was past his prime and bored.
Hard to find a younger fan using logic, thought, common sense like you did in this reaction...well done...I will say tho that a good "run" can be without a ring/MVP...ex) Stockton and Malone are all time greats and never won a ring...because of MJ...but their dominant seasons definitely deserve recognition ring or not....keep up the good work brother! Also, I do stats for a living and check this out: Of the all-time-leaderboard top 10's below...(as in how many times they LED the NBA in the category in their career - top 10 of these categories) All-Time Leaderboard #1 spots (led the NBA more times than anyone else) MJ Leads 12 of 21 categories he is in Wilt Leads in 7 of 22 categories he is in Kareem Leads in 4 of 15 categories he is in LJ tied for 1st in value over replacement player with MJ at 9x - soon to have the all-time points record So LJ is tied for first in ONE category...he will soon lead in TWO (all time points) but that's only because he's done it over 20yrs which Kareem did as well...great accomplishment but does NOT make him the goat...Karl Malone and Kobe have always had more points than Jordan but no one has said Karl Malone is the GOAT. Not to mention that the other three are in waaaaay more categories, so they've led the NBA in MORE categories MORE times than any other player...that speaks volumes. Wilt is actually in 1 more category than MJ...but no one leads #1 in as many categories as MJ at 12 for how many times they led the NBA in their career in the category...almost double Wilt...LJ isnt even in the conversation imo...and the reason LJ doesn't lead more categories? MJ....MJ is 1st to LJ's 2nd in Box+/-, Offensive Box +/-, and tied in Value over replacement player...Lebron doesnt even make it past #4 in the other categories except for #3 in minutes played and minutes per game.... Games Free Throws 2-Pt Field Goal Pct Turnover Pct Minutes Played Free Throw Attempts 3-Pt Field Goal Pct Usage Pct Field Goal Attempts Offensive Rebounds Free Throw Pct Offensive Rating 2-Pt Field Goals Defensive Rebounds Minutes Per Game Defensive Rating 2-Pt Field Goal Attempts Total Rebounds Points Per Game Offensive Win Shares 3-Pt Field Goals Assists Rebounds Per Game Defensive Win Shares 3-Pt Field Goal Attempts Steals Assists Per Game Win Shares Field Goals Missed Blocks Steals Per Game Win Shares Per 48 Minutes Blocks Per Game Turnovers Defensive Rebound Pct Box Plus/Minus Player Efficiency Rating Personal Fouls Total Rebound Pct Offensive Box Plus/Minus True Shooting Pct Points (scoring titles) Assist Pct Defensive Box Plus/Minus Effective Field Goal Pct Triple-Doubles Steal Pct Value Over Replacement Player Offensive Rebound Pct Field Goal Pct Block Pct Usage Pct Offensive Win Shares Offensive Box Plus/Minus Offensive Rating Defensive Win Shares Defensive Box Plus/Minus Defensive Rating Win Shares Value Over Replacement Player Win Shares Per 48 Minutes Box Plus/Minus
13:26 He really only played 11 seasons with the bulls. 86' He was injured and played 18 games 95' was his come back from retirement and only played 17 games. So really, EVERY season in Chicago made the top 50.
Jordan is the one and only goat the only thing that’s keeping people believing in LeBron is his longevity But that’s not enough to overtake Jordan as the goat
All 11 full seasons Jordan played for the Bulls are on this list. And the matrix fav. modern era players, because of how the game has changed. So it is even more impressive.
Great reaction youngster. I've bled the purple & gold since Magic's rookie season, and he's my favorite player all-time. And like that GOAT debate, it's not even close. I was fortunate to have witnessed prime MJ in person a few times and I've done same with Bron, and I find it comical that they're compared. Forget the stats, chips, accolades, etc. Just look at the player, which majority of ex and current NBA players do, and that's why they view MJ as the GOAT. Jordan had the faster twitching muscles which granted him the superior raw athleticism, hand-eye coordination, reflexes, bounce, hang-time, mid-air body control, aerial acrobatics, artistry, creativity, etc. MJ also had the superior fundamentals taught to him by a highly-esteemed Univ. dean. Jordan was much more competitive. He was a lot more tenacious. We all know Bron is passive. MJ also had that maniacal mental of killers in serial. While Bron's mental is Vagisil vaginal. Only the bias, infinite ignorant and envious (Thomas/Pippen) view Bron as the GOAT.
The reason he uses ALLSTAR MVP versus League MVP is because the League MVP didn't always go to the true MVP. It is extremely political. The Allstar MVP, however is a bunch of All-STARS playing against each other for individual competition amongst the best of the best. So it is more relevant than a bunch of sports writers not giving the truly deserving MVP the award. In this video it showed not only MJ got robbed, but so did Kobe. Also think about how high DWADE was on this list and how he played with Bron an Bosh all in their primes. Contrast that with Pippen who wasn't even on the list.
Pippen has an extremely low PER for an all-time great. To put it into context, people always complain Lebron had no help in the 07 finals but Big Z's career PER is 141st....Pippen's is 132nd (or it was when I checked a year or 2 ago). Pip also was robbed of DPOY in 1996 (but I guess that is balanced out by getting an ASMVP in 94). Besides defensive teams Pip just didn't have the numbers to climb the list (which I guess makes this a flaw of the list because Pippen always had stellar seasons he just didn't have any single outrageous category because of his role on the team and jack of all trades play style). Maybe if Pippen had more seasons in his prime as the solo star before his back gave out he'd be higher up. That said, agree that people don't give wade enough credit for his heat career before the alliance and even during the alliance.
ONE AND ONLY G.O.A.T....AND THAT'S MJ! BRON IS ALREADY ROTTEN IN THE NBA AND JUST RECENTLY REACHED TOP SCORING SPOT. GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE. MJ ONE AND ONLY PERIOD!
You're not getting it, bro. Multiple things are pushing for the narrative that Lebron is the greatest. 1) The media need Lebron or someone currently in the league to be presented as the greatest to keep the hype up. Hype sells. Hype makes money. 2) People want to believe that what they're seeing is the greatest that there is and ever was. To the younger generation, that would be Lebron. People who grew up with MJ, typically see MJ as the GOAT (which I think he is). 3) There are people who did witness MJ but that was so long ago and are now seeing Lebron may have recency bias. When someone argues with you on Lebron vs Jordan, show them Jordan's side using 1) the Voyager (for Jordan) and 2) Breaking down the meme games (by Angry Old Hoops) to show the difference between the 2. Or any of the AOH videos really about Lebron. That should shut them up.
Wilt has 4 of the Top 10 seasons for Win Shares and 3 of the Top 10 seasons for PER. Jordan has one in the Top 10 of Win Shares and 2 in the Top 10 of PER. WILT 1962 PER(32.08) WS(23.11) 1963 PER(31.82) WS(20.94) 1964 PER(31.63) WS(24.98) JORDAN 1988 PER(31.71) WS(21.23)
@@diltberg9627 You mean plumbers? Wilt played an NBA75 center 16 out of 29 series. 21 out of 29 vs HOFers;. Russell, Kareem, Thurmond, and Reed are all NBA75 centers. Bellamy was a HOFer but he'd be an All Star today, easily. Wilt dropped 73 on Walt. The most Kareem ever had on Bellamy was 40.
Michael Jordan only had 11 full seasons with the bulls. All of them are on the list. In 1986 he broke his leg three games into the season and in 1995 he was coming back from baseball at the end of the season
Facts. 1985-86 Season MJ only played 18 games that "Season," and he only played 17 games that 1994-95 "Season" he returned from his first retirement. Combined those games total 35 which isn't even half a full season. So what MJ did in his 11 full seasons with Bulls is truly another level.
@@tiredoffools8929 and the majority of those 18 games that he played he was on like 16 minutes max playing time because the coaches were still worried about his legs
Michael Jordan played 13 years with the bulls
Yep...He only played 18 games in 86-87 and only okayed the last 17 games of the 94-95 season.
Per game all-time at his position MJ is 1st pts,1st blk,2nd stl,3rd reb & 5th in ast.
That’s top 5 in every category,top 3 in 4 outta 5 categories.He’s the only only player in nba history to accomplish that.
Per game all time at his position Lebron is 1st ast,2nd pts,9th stl,13th reb & 17th in blk.
That’s top 5 in two categories,top 3 in two categories.Great but not on MJ’s level clearly.Especially his defensive and rebounding numbers.The only category Lebron better’s MJ relative to their position is assist.We all already knew/know that because that is the ONLY thing Lebron has ever
‘had on MJ’.
MJ is #1 all-time in P.E.R. in both regular season and playoffs.
He’s #1 all-time in win shares per game in both regular season and playoffs.
He’s #1 all-time in BPM in both regular season and playoffs.
He’s #1 all-time in VORP per game in both regular season and playoffs.
He has the most scoring titles all-time.
He made the most all-def 1st teams all-time.
He lead the league in scoring and made all-def 1st team *at the same time 9 times*.
Wilt,Russell,Kareem,Bird,Lebron,Magic,Kobe,Hakeem,Shaq,Steph,Kd never did it once.Not one time
He has the most trophies all-time with 22 in 1,072 games.
For context Bill Russell and his 11 championships is 2nd all-time with 17 trophies in 963 games.
Lebron is 3rd all-time with 16 in 1,411 games so far.
Kareem is 4th all-time with 15 trophies in 1,560 games.
And for the brand new Wilt fans out there he’s 10th all-time with 9 trophies in 1,045 games.
There is no debate...except for the fake one nick wright and shannon sharpe have been pushing for yearS now.
@@jeromrharris1126 Yes, but he only played 11 FULL seasons, he played less than 20 games in 2 of those seasons. 1 because he broke his foot in the third game of the’85-‘86 season, and in the ‘94-‘95 season when he came back with 18 games left in the season. His wizards years don’t count, as he was past his prime and bored.
Hard to find a younger fan using logic, thought, common sense like you did in this reaction...well done...I will say tho that a good "run" can be without a ring/MVP...ex) Stockton and Malone are all time greats and never won a ring...because of MJ...but their dominant seasons definitely deserve recognition ring or not....keep up the good work brother!
Also, I do stats for a living and check this out:
Of the all-time-leaderboard top 10's below...(as in how many times they LED the NBA in the category in their career - top 10 of these categories)
All-Time Leaderboard #1 spots (led the NBA more times than anyone else)
MJ Leads 12 of 21 categories he is in
Wilt Leads in 7 of 22 categories he is in
Kareem Leads in 4 of 15 categories he is in
LJ tied for 1st in value over replacement player with MJ at 9x - soon to have the all-time points record
So LJ is tied for first in ONE category...he will soon lead in TWO (all time points) but that's only because he's done it over 20yrs which Kareem did as well...great accomplishment but does NOT make him the goat...Karl Malone and Kobe have always had more points than Jordan but no one has said Karl Malone is the GOAT. Not to mention that the other three are in waaaaay more categories, so they've led the NBA in MORE categories MORE times than any other player...that speaks volumes.
Wilt is actually in 1 more category than MJ...but no one leads #1 in as many categories as MJ at 12 for how many times they led the NBA in their career in the category...almost double Wilt...LJ isnt even in the conversation imo...and the reason LJ doesn't lead more categories? MJ....MJ is 1st to LJ's 2nd in Box+/-, Offensive Box +/-, and tied in Value over replacement player...Lebron doesnt even make it past #4 in the other categories except for #3 in minutes played and minutes per game....
Games Free Throws 2-Pt Field Goal Pct Turnover Pct
Minutes Played Free Throw Attempts 3-Pt Field Goal Pct Usage Pct
Field Goal Attempts Offensive Rebounds Free Throw Pct Offensive Rating
2-Pt Field Goals Defensive Rebounds Minutes Per Game Defensive Rating
2-Pt Field Goal Attempts Total Rebounds Points Per Game Offensive Win Shares
3-Pt Field Goals Assists Rebounds Per Game Defensive Win Shares
3-Pt Field Goal Attempts Steals Assists Per Game Win Shares
Field Goals Missed Blocks Steals Per Game Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
Blocks Per Game Turnovers Defensive Rebound Pct Box Plus/Minus
Player Efficiency Rating Personal Fouls Total Rebound Pct Offensive Box Plus/Minus
True Shooting Pct Points (scoring titles) Assist Pct Defensive Box Plus/Minus
Effective Field Goal Pct Triple-Doubles Steal Pct Value Over Replacement Player
Offensive Rebound Pct Field Goal Pct Block Pct
Usage Pct Offensive Win Shares Offensive Box Plus/Minus
Offensive Rating Defensive Win Shares Defensive Box Plus/Minus
Defensive Rating Win Shares Value Over Replacement Player
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
Box Plus/Minus
13:26 He really only played 11 seasons with the bulls.
86' He was injured and played 18 games
95' was his come back from retirement and only played 17 games.
So really, EVERY season in Chicago made the top 50.
Great reaction!
Jordan is the one and only goat the only thing that’s keeping people believing in LeBron is his longevity But that’s not enough to overtake Jordan as the goat
Your reaction/opinion is much more sound than the other few reactors i have seen actually.
Mans hate curry so much but put him in the thumbnail to attract viewers 😂😂😂😂😂
All 11 full seasons Jordan played for the Bulls are on this list. And the matrix fav. modern era players, because of how the game has changed. So it is even more impressive.
The dancing kind of threw me off, but after that it was a pretty good reaction 🤣
I can understand having DPOY over MVP because MVP isn't always based just on stats. I'm not shocked at all to see Pippen on the list of total scores
Great reaction my man. Can you react to Jordans historic bulls mixtape made by the NBA?
Great reaction youngster. I've bled the purple & gold since Magic's rookie season, and he's my favorite player all-time. And like that GOAT debate, it's not even close. I was fortunate to have witnessed prime MJ in person a few times and I've done same with Bron, and I find it comical that they're compared. Forget the stats, chips, accolades, etc. Just look at the player, which majority of ex and current NBA players do, and that's why they view MJ as the GOAT. Jordan had the faster twitching muscles which granted him the superior raw athleticism, hand-eye coordination, reflexes, bounce, hang-time, mid-air body control, aerial acrobatics, artistry, creativity, etc. MJ also had the superior fundamentals taught to him by a highly-esteemed Univ. dean. Jordan was much more competitive. He was a lot more tenacious. We all know Bron is passive. MJ also had that maniacal mental of killers in serial. While Bron's mental is Vagisil vaginal. Only the bias, infinite ignorant and envious (Thomas/Pippen) view Bron as the GOAT.
Numbers don't lie, youngin 🤣🤣🤣
Lebron will never accomplish what MJ did and he needs to take himself out of the G.O.A.T conversation!!!!
Been trying to tell everyone he was the GOAT. People need to leave it alone and just accept it.
Actually mike only played 11.5 full seasons with the bulls 😅😅 yikes!! Dude is the goat by farrrrrrrrrrr
The reason he uses ALLSTAR MVP versus League MVP is because the League MVP didn't always go to the true MVP. It is extremely political. The Allstar MVP, however is a bunch of All-STARS playing against each other for individual competition amongst the best of the best. So it is more relevant than a bunch of sports writers not giving the truly deserving MVP the award. In this video it showed not only MJ got robbed, but so did Kobe.
Also think about how high DWADE was on this list and how he played with Bron an Bosh all in their primes. Contrast that with Pippen who wasn't even on the list.
Pippen has an extremely low PER for an all-time great. To put it into context, people always complain Lebron had no help in the 07 finals but Big Z's career PER is 141st....Pippen's is 132nd (or it was when I checked a year or 2 ago). Pip also was robbed of DPOY in 1996 (but I guess that is balanced out by getting an ASMVP in 94). Besides defensive teams Pip just didn't have the numbers to climb the list (which I guess makes this a flaw of the list because Pippen always had stellar seasons he just didn't have any single outrageous category because of his role on the team and jack of all trades play style). Maybe if Pippen had more seasons in his prime as the solo star before his back gave out he'd be higher up.
That said, agree that people don't give wade enough credit for his heat career before the alliance and even during the alliance.
All Star MVP goes for stat more than regular MVP. So it's more appropriate.
Jordan don't care about MVP's he cares about Championships.
Skip Bayless needs to react to this
ONE AND ONLY G.O.A.T....AND THAT'S MJ! BRON IS ALREADY ROTTEN IN THE NBA AND JUST RECENTLY REACHED TOP SCORING SPOT. GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE. MJ ONE AND ONLY PERIOD!
Youngblood gets it. 👍🏿
You're not getting it, bro. Multiple things are pushing for the narrative that Lebron is the greatest. 1) The media need Lebron or someone currently in the league to be presented as the greatest to keep the hype up. Hype sells. Hype makes money. 2) People want to believe that what they're seeing is the greatest that there is and ever was. To the younger generation, that would be Lebron. People who grew up with MJ, typically see MJ as the GOAT (which I think he is). 3) There are people who did witness MJ but that was so long ago and are now seeing Lebron may have recency bias.
When someone argues with you on Lebron vs Jordan, show them Jordan's side using 1) the Voyager (for Jordan) and 2) Breaking down the meme games (by Angry Old Hoops) to show the difference between the 2. Or any of the AOH videos really about Lebron. That should shut them up.
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Kankan - get geeked
Correction…Jordan only played 11 seasons with the bulls
Lol. Wow. You got the prediction about right. Hehehe. Bird got there at 5 year stretch at least even though he didnt make it to the top 50.
I don't get much understand what is GREATEST INDIVIDUAL SEASON MEAN? Even Google is!
I like your videos, but stop comparing Russell Westbrook to Steph Curry. Prime Russ aint even a 3rd of Steph stop playin
Wilt has 4 of the Top 10 seasons for Win Shares and 3 of the Top 10 seasons for PER. Jordan has one in the Top 10 of Win Shares and 2 in the Top 10 of PER.
WILT
1962 PER(32.08) WS(23.11)
1963 PER(31.82) WS(20.94)
1964 PER(31.63) WS(24.98)
JORDAN
1988 PER(31.71) WS(21.23)
And your point is wilt also played with alot of Plummer's
@@diltberg9627 You mean plumbers? Wilt played an NBA75 center 16 out of 29 series. 21 out of 29 vs HOFers;. Russell, Kareem, Thurmond, and Reed are all NBA75 centers. Bellamy was a HOFer but he'd be an All Star today, easily. Wilt dropped 73 on Walt. The most Kareem ever had on Bellamy was 40.
Mj goat
You spelt LeBron wrong my boy.
Y'all still in denial after seeing this?
@@whenisdinner2137 facts bro they gotta full bowl of salt that they eatin
Yeah u have no clue what u talking about 😂