John "Liver Eating" Johnston the real life mountain man who inspired the movie Jeremiah Johnson
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- The 1972 movie Jeremiah Johnson starring Robert Redford was loosely based on the real life mountain man John 'Liver Eating' Johnston. This video chronicles the life of Johnston and explains how he got the name Liver Eater.
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Jeremiah Johnson is one of my all time favorite movies along with Little Big Man and no matter how many times I watch them I never tire of them
One of my top3 favorite movies of all time.
"You're that pilgrim I've been hearing for 20 days and smelling for 3"
A favorite of mine as well Dave. Thank you for watching the video.
Didn’t put enough dirt down, saw it right off!!
Then fires can get right hot. Thanks for watching John.
LOL
HAHAHAAA. Some of us watch the movie too many times. I like it!
Didn't put enough dirt down pilgrim you forgot that pot.
( YOU MEAN A FULL TIME NIGHT WOMAN ? )
Back in the 1990s I used to show my bronze art at a show we had at Old Trail Town Wyoming.. just outside of Cody... It's there that they re-buried Johnston.. he used to soak in the hot springs on the river near what is now Old Trail Town... Pet Fillerup, a fellow artist friend of mine, created the bronze that stands over Johnston's grave.. Love this video.. thank you. Oh, Robert Redford took part in the Re-burial ceremony as well as a lot of Mountain man re-enactors..
The men that forged their lives in the Rocky Mountains were of extreme strong character. Intense life and death situations were the norm. If you want a great visit into the old west, go to Old Trail Town in Cody, WY. That is where he is buried now. Biggest funeral in the history of Wyoming. Lots of very interesting stuff there.
One of my all time favorite movies. Not a lot of dialogue, but some of the most classic lines. My best friend and I still quote them, been doing it since we were kids. The scenery is spectacular, to think Hollywood wanted to shoot this film on a backlot.
Great movie yyz. Thanks for watching the video.
Now boy...u sure you can skin grizz
Everything you mentioned is what makes this a great and classic movie, one where the scenery and expressions of the characters, and not just the words, tell the story, and that they actually shot the film in the real environment makes it primo and worthy. One of my top favorite movies, yes indeed "What's he shoutin for?" th-cam.com/video/XF3rX48nmz0/w-d-xo.html
Redford was a location scout on the movie because most of it was shot on his land and other places nearby.
It's one of my favorite moving pictures
Jeremiah Johnson & The Mountain Men are two of my favorite movies of all times. Thank you for this additional knowledge it will make it even better the next time I watch it.
Great underestimated movie. Made on Robert Redford's own land, with real Indians and in winter for just $ 4 million! Respect!
Thanks for watching T. Versteeg.
It says at the end of the movie the national and state parks the movie was shot in in Utah. Say nothing about Redfords own property. People should do homework before stating "facts." Ague if you want. I watch this movie 2 or 3 times a week. Soooo
It is a real good movie but 2 to3 times a week. DANM
@@percival1137 lol. Oh man. You might look that up. Redfords place.
@@MrThenry1988 Is that you Tim Henry, Jim Arnold
Jeremiah Johnson wasnt just one of the best movies ever made it WAS the best Mountain man movie ever made, redford walk the walk and talked the talk, did his own stunts, great guy!!--it was visualy stunning emotionaly moving and spirtually inspired---"some say his up there still"------thank god for that at least one of us remains FREE.---------------------------------------yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee x
Thanks for watching the video Mr. Westie.
Watched the movie again last night.
I obtained the movie sound track a few years ago, it's the best sound track of any movie set in the old west, hands down.
it’s a beautiful soundtrack, i’m here in England UK but this film and the soundtrack transports me to the mountains
Reading about this man when I was young is what got me to move to the north and become a hunter trapper and logger, retired now and just have the old memories, thanks
Old memories are good memories Blue Dog. Thanks for watching.
As a few other people have mentioned in the comments, this is my favorite movie of all time. I couldn't begin to tell you how many times I've seen it~!
Great movie for sure Wayne. Thanks for watching the video.
My wife rolls her eyes every time she catches me watching it for the twenty-something time, I love the sound track.
"Skin that one pilgrim and I'll bring ya another one." Best line ever.
That definitely was a classic Carl. Thanks for watching.
"Elk don't know how many feet a horse has!"
You guys quoted some of the best lines......Great Movie !
@@dalemesserlydws6240 That's the Best movie line, you got it right.
One of my all time favorite movies and now after learning about the real mountain man he was based on I think the real man is even more interesting. Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks for watching the video chisolm5
Is there any books on the life of John Johnston?
He lived a life that would be totally impossible today. This is a very informative film. I learned quite a bit here about the man & enjoyed it.Very strange individual, though I do believe, as this doc suggests, his brutal childhood contributed to his unconventional behavior, offbeat personality, resistance to authority, and erratic, unbalanced mental-state.The movie with Redford was released at the height of the era's emerging environmental movement, appealing to a younger generation of audiences who were receptive to it, seeing Johnson, as portrayed by Redford, as reflecting their philosophical mindset. This, combined with re-discovered respect & admiration for Native Americans, and the picturing of the glories of the American wilderness, harking back to a time when it still was pristine & untrammeled, made these younger cinema-goers realize how much we'd lost, and were continuing to lose, in the way of this nation's environmental heritage. Aside from being a nifty-little adventure film, with Redford the hottest star in the country, it was the right movie at the right time, striking a chord with the conscience of America.
Thanks for watching and commenting Jack.
Well the Bigfoots still live out in the wild., forest people as they are called., not impossible
Top Old classic movie. Surpurbly done with deep meaning. Priceless.
Thanks for the kind words Floyd, and thanks for watching the video.
Totally agree, fantastic film! Saw it at a drive-in when I was 8 in 1972. One of my all-time favs.
To BC Bob.....how one lives off the land.
Great movie. Even if it is fictionalized, it is a great teaching tool to show kids what mountain man life was like. I show clips in my history class every year.
Thanks for being the kind of teacher that shows worthwhile things to their class.
My favorite movie of all time, and I don't know why. I watched it so many times. I know every line in it
My favorite movie all time. I've always known it wasn't accurate. It does show how tough these men were to stay alive doing this.
Great movie. Thanks for watching the video Ronald.
I ended up in Montana then Colorado because of that movie! It’s been my dream since I was a little kid growing up in the woods and fields of rural Ohio
Me, too.
brilliant video, it is so interesting to learn the true stories behind the film. I am so glad his body was brought back to Wyoming.
mine too. From Cheshire England
I watched this film and Man in the Wilderness in 71 or 72. Loved them both and they worked well in a double feature.
Thanks for watching the video Md Nealy.
My wife started having complications at 23 weeks with our first child. I was in the field north of Fort Riley when I got the red cross call.
We prayed he'd stay in a few more weeks. Today at 25 weeks 5 days he was born screaming like a banshee, kicking like a mule and healthy as a horse. Me and the wife had been watching Jeremiah Johnson and we decided we'd name him Jeremiah cause he's quite the little fighter.....
Now I'm looking for a Hawken gun .50 caliber or better. I'll settle for a .30 but it's got to be a genuine Hawken cause they don't get much better than that.
Wonderful story 11bangbang. Congratulations to you, your wife and Jeremiah. I'm sure you will show him the movie and tell him that story when he gets old enough. Thanks for watching the video.
And by the way I assume you are in the military. If so, thank you for your service to the country.
@@historymore442 Yep I'm mechanized infantry and thank you sir for the good content.
Congratulations Papa and Mama! May little Jeremiah grow strong and healthy and bring you much joy.
@@Real11BangBang You could ask Hatchet Jack for his 50 cal Hawkins. I don't think he's using it at the moment. (Grunt humour. Ex 8/7 RVR)
Congratulations on your son. The book reported that he paid $50 for a .30 cal. Hawken. It was a misprint. He paid $30 for a .50 cal. He carried that rifle for years & never had a complaint about it lacking power. A .30 cal. muzzle loader is a squirrel gun, slightly more powerful than a .22. Hatchet Jack Ireland did exist but he did not freeze to death after being mauled by a bear & willing his rifle to the next White Man.
what a great post that was History & More ! thank you so very very much! it was my middle school teacher Mr. Tri Robinson at Parkview Middle School in Lancaster California who told our class the story of Mr liver-eating Johnson.the movie with Robert Redford was just about to be released and our teacher wanted us to hear the real story behind the movie.the main reason being is because mr. Robinson was as much of a Mountain Man as the 1970s could allow haha!. the resemblance of mr. Robinson and Robert Redford was so amazing they could have been Brothers!!!many of us young ladies had just as much crush on our teacher as we did the actor haha!!! Mr. Robinson lived up in the mountains with his wife and new baby daughter and his father.they lived as close to the basics as they could and the ranch was fully self-sustained.he took the class on a field trip up to his place once and his father showed us how he found the water on the property because he was a well Witcher !it was amazing to watch him and even more amazing to see how they lived so comfortably but so simply. so one day early morning class mr. Robinson sat on his stool in the front of the classroom and started reading out of a book, he was always a wonderful Storyteller and had wonderful stories to tell us reading a book was something that he hadn't done yet but he captivated all of us within seconds!.I don't remember the title of that book but it was the story of Jeremiah Johnson and there was not a dry eye among all of us students by the end of class. he also read out of some letters that he had that Jeremiah Johnson had written to his mother it was a diary of sorts, and in one of the letters he had asked his mother if she should find him dead that she take him home and have him buried in his mountains. sadly mr. Robinson told us where Jeremiah Johnson had them buried right off one of the main freeways in Los Angeles with all the noise and the pollution it it seemed so unfitting for that to have happened to that most awesome mountain man!it was the reading of that letter to his mother that made us all speak up and say we should rebury him and take him home and that's exactly what our teacher put together!!!the class got together and wrote to the local newspaper and explained the story of Jeremiah Johnson and by now the movie had been released and everybody knew of it and the story and we explained our reason behind wanting to re bury this mountain man and in the meantime our teacher started doing all the legal parts of this awesome endeavor!it took a few weeks to put it all together and lots of legal issues to get through we ended up having to get permission from the president to do it I believe it was Nixon at the time if I remember correctly ?the kids put together huge fundraisers in order for us to be able to go on the plane back to Wyoming or Montana I can't remember where hetold his mother where he wanted to be buried or laid to rest?I know it was very expensive for us to be able to do it each kid had to come up with $1,200 there was no way I could do it so I didn't get to go on the trip!!! the class didn't get to go to the exhumation but my teacher was there I do believe Ronald Reagan made it there as well as Robert Redford City Mayors and other dignitaries were there as well and the Press.it wasn't until the very last minute that Robert Redford surprised the whole class by boarding the plane to go with them! only seven students of our class were able to raise the money to go on that trip!all the stories and the pictures printed in our local paper were amazing!!! I still have a clipping of some of our students in the same photo with Robert Redford at the new grave site!. I often think of Mr. Tri Robinson and all the wonderful things he taught us students in the short time he was at that school.he was indeed an amazing thoughtful loving man mr.ray cope! a beautiful man and last I heard he moved to northern Idaho to begin a Ministry there!I could be a hundred percent positive and knowing that he taught many more people amazing things!!! I love Robert Redford and all the movies he has ever done but yes that one tops the list!!! but as much as I love Robert Redford movies and him I love John Wayne even more he's my man!!!! lol! my town Lancaster California is where John Wayne moved to when he was 7 years old ! I live across the street from The elementary school he attended when he could!! and just around the corner from the house one of the houses that Judy Garland grew up in and she also attended that same Elementary School.the Gumm sisters entertained the citizens of Lancaster up to the point where she finally became an actress and starting her first major movie The Wizard of Oz when she finally moved out of town.
Thanks Shelli for taking the time to write that. Mr. Robinson is the type teacher that makes an impact on students. We need more like him. Approximately how old was he in 1972? I suspect it is unlikely he is still alive.
Anyway thanks for telling your story and thanks for watching the video. Your response motivates me to keep making the best videos I possibly can.
Wow quite a story. Sounds like a great teacher. I saw this movie with my mom and brother after my parents had split. It was awesome. I wish my dad had been there because his granddad was from southwest colorado and was friends with some indians. We had some of his indian rugs in our house.
Great story!! Thanks for sharing.
wow! Thank you for writing this, I found it fascinating and heartwarming, i’m so glad he hot back to his mountains.
@@historymore442 hi and Thankyou! Mr Robinson was 33 at the time 😀
Johnston's grave is located in "Old Trail Town" in Cody Wyoming. Robert Redford was on hand for the reburial as ware a number of "American Mountain Men." Thanks for keeping the history alive.
Hi, I'm French, I saw The movie When I was 16 years old and the last year in September I went whit my wife to Cody and I saw the tumb of John Johnson.
Thank you very much for this little movie.
Cédric Petit
I hope things are well in France Cedric. Cody is a very cool little western town. Been there myself. Thanks for watching the video.
I,Hatchet Jack, being of sound mind and broke legs. Leave my Hawkins 50cal to the next one that finds it. Lord it be a white man. It kilt the bar that kilt me.. One of many great lines in the movie.. Awesome movie! Thanks for the history lesson..
Yep Dennis great movie and thanks for that great line and for watching the video.
And 2 broke leg. God willin he be white. Not a BLM term. GriN
Kilt the bar wut kilt me it's a fine rifle 5o harken n u u can't do much better
Valdez is coming. Is a classic too fk awesome movie. U gotta listen to every word. So lock ur wife in the garage. Grin
@Richard Jones yeah, lived up on the muselshell in a cave with a cougar. She never could get used to him . Oh that is one my favorite lines...Oh and also we rode through the crazies mts on our duelsport ride here a few weeks ago in Montana.. I seen that little sign, then researched it later at camp that evening..And I wondered if it was from that movie.. Pretty cool!!
I remember watching this movie when I was young it instantly became my favourite movie and the reason why I started spending my time in the wilderness.
The movie probably affected lots of people like that Joseph. Thanks for watching the video.
Congrats to making a movie that was so close to realistic life of John "Liver Eating" Johnston, FANTASTIC !!!
Thanks Loye for watching the video.
Saw this in the Fort Rucker post theater. I raved about it and my late wife found the VHS for $89 in 1974 = big bucks. Still watch it a couple times a year and like many can quote many of the lines. MIghty Hunter!?!? Yes!!
That sure was big bucks for a VHS tape. Thanks for watching the video.
I saw this movie in my teen years (1972) and it found a place in my heart !!!
It did the same for many of us Lesmes. Thanks for watching the video.
I was 9 years old when I saw this in a theater with my dad. Still remember it. I had a pez candy dispenser with me.
Wish they would make another Jeremiah Johnson movie! I've this over 50 times, watch every Christmas eve!
That would be great Robert. I'm just afraid it wouldn't live up to the original. Sequels rarely do. Thanks for watching the video.
I wish they would make another one also. But an accurate one, examples: the scene with Bearclaw, where he's acting like a novice, although he's wearing calvary pants from the civil war, however, in the 1830's, he was with Hatcher (Hatchet Jack?) And was trapping buddies with Del Gue in the 40's & 50's. Omissions: Crazy Woman's family was killed, but not her husband John. He was scalped and had no memory of his family. Johnston knew the secret, but never spoke of it while her husband was alive. He went by the name of Mad Mose. Crazy Woman had no cabin when the Crow Indians killed her children. By Johnston account, when she went to see why each kid sent, wasn't coming back (he was swelling a new wagon wheel in the creek), she saw her children scalped and one Crow riding off with her scalped husband. She went "crazy" and killed no less than 4 indians.
It wouldn't be as good, movie remakes have horrible records.
I loved your story, your voice is excellent, thank you, I love true stories about history
Some Folk Say ,he’s up there Still….One of the Best movies of my Childhood.Thank for the upload 👏
I have seen the movie like 4 or 5 times. I will watch again and again! One of my all time favorites!
one of my favorite movies! Thank you, Glenn
Good for sure Glenn. Thanks for watching the video.
This movie gave birth to a big resurgence in black powder rifles, reenacting, rendezvous & frontier history...most of us who got involved with the subject in the early '70's are either old, gone, or "getting mossy" as we age. Haha
Thanks for watching the video Dallas.
Yes it did......that started my black powder adventures and my sojourn up into the wilds of western CO. I never could completely shed civilization, but I came close.
@Dallas DautermanDallas
I prefer "chronologically enhanced". :-)
A Buddy of mine puts it..."Its rapidly becoming a long time ago."
Yep, but it sure is fun. I have two Hawken Rifles.
@@jamesbreeden3061 I grew up in St.Louis county. There was shop there on Lindbergh Blvd called The Hawken Shop. I drove past there a million times growing up and had no idea what it was. As an adult now into black powder, I was visiting home and ventured in there. They were making parts for and subcontracting people to assemble Hawken guns. Their pieces were amazing....the parts. But the show stoppers were REAL Hawkens guns scattered around the shop! What better way to make replica parts than to use the originals in house. I read that they moved to Whidbey Island. I find that hard to believe and don't understand the connection. Maybe someone could verify that?
Thank you for the post. I always wondered who was the inspiration behind Robert Redford's character, Jeremiah Johnson, in the movie. I saw 'Jeremiah Johnson' at Highway 39 Drive-in (now gone), in Westminster, CA in 1972, when I was eight years old. Still one of my all-time favorite films today, and I'm now 56. I recommend this movie HIGHLY to anyone who has not seen this classic!
Indeed a classic. Thanks for watching the video Randy.
did you ever visit "The Flintlock" at Hobby City also on Beach Blvd, in Buena Park?
All (and only) blackpowder stuff. Also HQ for "The Golden Bears" ML Club.
Miss those days. Now it's almost impossible to find real Black Powder. (Especially at $2.50 lb)
@@bobkrohn8053 Hi Bob, I remember the Hobby City, but can't say I remember "The Flintlock", unfortunately. That whole area has changed so much since I was a kid. Sad how downhill Orange County has gone. Those were good days back then for sure; so much less crime and drugs (and less ppl).
What an awesome movie! I've watched this movie several times and enjoyed it each time, sometimes picking out scenes that I somehow missed in previous viewings. Robert Redford made Jeremiah Johnson believable. I never knew that the young girl Johnson found in the cellar was Tanya Tucker...amazing.
Great movie indeed Alexander. Thanks for watching the video.
“Were it worth the trouble pilgrim?”... “Ha?! What trouble?
Thanks for watching EMDDoctor86.
Great movie ! A must see for movie buffs , awesome cinematography !
I agree Rich. Thanks for watching the video.
MY FAVORITE-EST MOVIE IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD! TO ME AINT NOTHING NOR NO OTHER MOVIE ANY BETTER! I COULD WATCH IT OVER AND OVER EVERYDAY YET NOT TIRE FROM IT...
A good one for sure Joe. Thanks for watching.
This was interesting to me. I have always been fascinated with the mountain men era. One thing I noticed was you said Johnson obtained a .30 caliber Hawken rifle. I'm pretty sure the smallest caliber they made was .50 and many were larger, up to as much as .68. They had heavy barrels and could withstand much higher powder charges than the Pennsylvania/Kentucky rifle used in the east.
Yeah that is probably an incorrect fact I used jima28080. Some of the literature I used to research this video said 30 caliber, but in hindsight I should have given it more thought and not included that bit of data. Anyway, I think you are correct in your reasoning. Thanks for watching the video.
The Hawken brothers also produced 'squirrel' rifles (around .40 caliber) and shotguns as well as pistols. The Rocky Mountain rifle was intended for trappers and sojourners while the smaller caliber rifles were for local settlers. Many experts on Hawken rifles are convinced the .30 cal. reference is a misprint in the book that inspired Redford's movie. The smallest muzzleloading cal. I ever heard of was .36 cal., if anyone knows of a period rifle of less, let us know.
The creek where Jane Morgan, "the crazy woman" lived is officially called Crazy Woman Creek and is just east of the Bighorn mountains in Wyoming. In fact there is a VOR ( A FAA navigation radio beacon for aircraft) in that area called Crazy Woman. Its code is CZI
Thanks for watching mikentx57.
This seems to be one of those things in history where the actual location where something happened is not clear. This incident is also attributed to the area around the Crazy Mountains (also supposedly named from that incident) and also happens to be in an area of Montana where Liver Eating Johnston spent most of his time.
Jeremiah Johnson is without a doubt, my favorite movie of all time. Beautiful filming, and very well acted, plus the movie is based on the mountain life of a real person.
Really good movie for sure Razorback2088. Thanks for watching.
Only sickos would make a cannibal into a national hero.
mine too another great movie is The Big Sky with Kirk Douglas
It is said the last Crow he killed was upon his return from his time in the Civil War, the last of 20 sent after him. The brave waited for years for his return. The original name of the Crazies, was the Crazy Woman Mountains, where he found the woman. At 6'3' Redford would have hit him about armpit level. He killed most with his feet, which has aways made me wonder if at some point he had not run across someone with marital arts skills. When he was caught by Blackfeet on his way with a barrel of whiskey to sell to his Flathead family. The story is he knocked out a young brave watching him, scalped him with his own knife, removed one of his legs, and used it to survive in the dead of winter over 200 miles back to his cabin he shared with Del Gue. The young brave survived. It is claimed that he was near present day Billings Montana when another tribe was mocking the Crow over losing so many warriors to one white man. He killed one of them, removed his liver, took a bit and spit it out. He proclaimed that the liver was not fit for a dog. This was considered high praise to the Crow, and a mocking of the other tribe. It is unfortunate that he was reburied in Cody. He spent most of his time in central Montana, and had no use for Bill Cody. Most mountain men mocked Cody, as he did calling him the worst shot in the west. Some very colorful people back in those days.
Thanks for your insight Bob and thanks for watching the video.
Montana looks so beautiful
@@ghostfox148 it is. Even when it is snow covered and -20F.
Until I saw this video, I just thought that Jeremiah Johnson was just another movie - well written at that.
This was a very enlightening video!
Thanks for the kind words TexasRocks, and thanks for watching the video.
I have heard it said that Johnston once made the statement that "the liver of a Crow is not worth eating". This was meant as an insult and led to the legend that he had tried eating the livers of his victims as mutilation of defeated enemies was common practice among Native American tribes.
It seems that removing the liver from a dead Crow Indian was bad medicine. Thanks for watching the video Delton.
One of my favorite movies , now I know the teal history behind it
Thanks 🙏
Thanks for watching Greg.
Johnston served in the military during the Civil War near where I live in Missouri. I went to a house that is from that time, just across the road from the historical marker detailing the Battle of Newtonia. There is a rock fence there, and I asked the owner if I could take a rock from that old fence as something I could keep relating to Johnston. They laughed and told me to go ahead. Still have it.
Great story onedeaddeer.
Wonderful story my friend, and a wonderful thing that the kind teacher and his class did for the old mountain man.
I was a little boy again listening to you tell it.
I wish you rainbows.
Thanks for the kind words Ray, and thanks for watching.
Ray? my teacher mr. tri Robinson was indeed a very wonderful man I posted the story of how our class and teacher went about Re burying mr. Jeremiah Johnson
@@shellilogan771 Oh, that's wonderful that it was you and your classmates and Mr.Robinson who all got together and did a beautifully altruistic act of kindness together.
With so much grim and ugly things filling the "news " these days, something as wonderful as this really lets the lights brighten us all again.
As an old guy, but with the small boy to the fore, I thank you all because I grew up excited by such adventures and "mountain men"long before I discovered superheroes.
When all of you are very old and dangling your grandchildren off your knee, I bet you will smile and think back to the excitement and preparation you all went through back then.
You done good. : - )
I hope you are safe, happy and cherished Shelli.
Shine on my friend.
@@raycope2086 thank you so much mr. cope you're awesome for saying and I am yes up there in age as well hahaha thank you again
Though the movie "Jeremiah Johnson" was filmed in Utah the original character John 'Liver Eating' Johnston spent most of his days trapping in Montana. The Crazy Mountains are located in Montana as well as the Judith River, and the Flathead, Crow, and Black feet Indians.
Yep Kurt you are correct. Thanks for watching the video.
" If you cut wood, leave it up on the Judith, , , riverboat Captains'll leave you gold if you put out a pouch, , , good thing to know, when times get hard, , ,Watch yer topknot!"
My favorite movie of many years..this makes me happy
Good movie for sure Andrew.
Loved the movie...really good
Yep Bobbie.
Thank you for posting this and others.
Thank you for watching my videos John.
to me this is one of the greatest Movies ever of a Mountain man you can feel the emotion without a word the hardships and the fights between him and the natives Robert Redford and the cast all excellent Great Movie
Agree Tim. Thanks for watching.
LOVE 'History & More'!! Novice Western writer/playwright -- and American Mountain Man enthusiast-- that loves this channel! Thanks SO much for your efforts and sharing!
Thanks Michael.
I love the movie and you have done a awesome job of covering the story of Johnston. I do have a problem with the idea of him taking a .30 cal. Hawken rifle . A muzzle loading rifle in .32 cal. is about the same power as a modern .22 mag. Not a lot of killing power . I have been into black powder firearms and shooting for over 50 years and have never come across a Hawken under .45 cal. and have doubt of them even manufacturing one . Even the book " Crow Killer" makes this same statement of the .30. Being as the movie is based on the book, and it was written in 1959 I must assume the author was not very knowledgeable on muzzle loading firearms and slipped up.
I agree jomax. The book and the movie both specify a 30 cal so I just went with that. By the way, I own a 45 cal muzzle loader. I have taken a couple of deer with it, but after I bought it, I wished I had selected at least a 50 cal. Thanks for watching the video and your kind words about it.
Many guns started out at .30 calibre, then as rust and corrosion took their toll, it could be re bored to .40 or .45, the next step would be .50, then. 54 and usually stopping at. 58 as the walls of the barrel were losing integrity to go bigger.
Agreed, I've read up a lot on J&S Hawken and their famous Rifles, never found any reference to them making anything under a .45 cal round ball Rifle. The Hawkens weren't ever intended for Squirrel hunting, anyone who's seen a .32 or .36 cal round ball would laugh imagining a Mountain Man carrying such a pip squeak Rifle around the Rockies and great Plains of the time
As a kid Jeremiah Johnson was one of my two favorite movies. The other was Vanishing Point. Little Big Man came in third.
My favorite movie.....so engrossing and historically informative. Thanks for posting. Regards, Jimp
Agree Jimp. Thanks for watching.
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I've loved this movie since the first time I seen it when I was a kid and I still love this movie today it reminds me of different times
Different times for sure Chico. Thanks for watching the video.
I love the movie and the book is just as good I've read the book at least 20 times those mountain men were crazy .
Yep J.R. it took a different type individual to do what they did. Thanks for watching the video.
I remember being awake in bed as a young kid and hearing my Dad laughing uncontrollably downstairs at what i found out years later was Jeremiah Johnson and so i watched it and did exactly the same, 'Skin that Pilgrim i'll get you another',fantastic film in my top 5 of all time
My mother's maiden name is Johnston. Jeremiah Johnson has always ranked as one of my favorite movies. Mountain man of that era had such an adventurous life.
Most Crows respect this man to this very day, a tough, resilient and fierce warrior.
He made peace with the Crows and vice versa. Thanks for watching NKVD.
" A tribe's greatness is figgered on how mighty his enemies be" Del Gue, with an E. The Europeans called the natives 'Crow' because the tribe's native-tongued name translated to 'children of the large-beaked bird'.
An inspirational story
Thanks for watching David.
I watch Jeremiah Johnson the night before deer seasons opening day. I have never gone a season without getting at least one deer. I will miss this year because of the virus.
Sorry you're going to miss deer season Peter. As a "used to be deer hunter" I understand. Thanks for watching the video.
The book, Crow Killer, tells more. It's great. The movie may be fairly accurate, the gory stuff had to be left out. Still, one of my favorite movies ever. Thanks for this video!
Thanks for watching the video acesnoopy.
@@historymore442 I've read about him for years, but never anything new. I didn't know his grave was moved until I watched your video. Thanks again
Many years ago read a book titled "The Saga of Liver Eatin Johnston" . Interesting read reccomended by a teacher. Many of the place names in the book still exist on the Montana map, such as Red Lodge and Crazy Woman creek.
I would love to know more about him, i’ll try to track that book down.
I loved that movie... I remember watching it in the early afternoon on a weekend..relaxing... it was a fantastic movie
Really good movie Robert. Thanks for watching the video.
One of my all-time favorite movies
Many many people who have commented agree. thanks for watching Bill.
I’ve always enjoyed the movie of Jeremiah Johnson now it’s very informative thanks a lot
Good movie for sure Morris. Thanks for watching the video.
Excellent movie and even better video. Love it!
Thanks for the kind words Shane and thanks for watching the video.
Fantastic....thank you for your knowledge..dedication and time....for sharing...it clears up so much information I have pondered all of these years...Much Respect from St Petersburg Florida U.S.A...
I found this Simply revving, I've vaguely herd about this Gentleman
Just bit's and pieces"
Excellent JOB"
One of my favorite movies of all time. I knew it was based on two books, but I didn’t know those books were based on a true story. Thanks for the background!
Thanks for watching the video MCoC.
I do love that movie, I have to watch again . Great vid thanks.
Thank you for giving me a backstory to one of my favorite movies
My pleasure.
"A census taker once tried to test me
I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti"
Chainti does go well with liver JD. Thanks for watching the video.
Cooked rare,so as to Shop up the bloody juices
I'd make a terrible serial killer. I hate liver.
@@bobjames6284 Me Too! My mom used to force it down me when I was a kid. However if you go to The Weston a price foundation website you can get a lot of great recipes. I started eating it about a year ago ! I had no idea there were 50 B vitamins in liver more than you get in the store with 8 plus you get vitamins A D E and K and vitamin D to. Super powerful for the body most nutrient dense food on the planet ! Cheers
I have this movie on DVD . It's a very good movie - well acted and I especially liked Will Geer .
Very good movie Mike. Thanks for watching the video.
Ride due west as the sun sets turn left at the Rocky Mountains. Oh how I love JJ. Redford and Sydney Pollack made a classic.
No doubt Richard. Thanks for watching the video.
Love that movie... Still have the VHS
Yep it's a good one Pam. Thanks for watching the video.
I give that movie two thumbs up. Damn good movie!
I agree Byron. Thanks for watching the video.
My favorite movie.
None better Don. Thanks for watching the video.
Thank-you for peeling back the Hollywood veil for us! Most interesting!
You bet Chasathome. Thanks for watching.
I live in milford n.j.about 4 miles from where he was born, between little York and pattenburg n.j. The stone foundation of his home is still there
Thanks for watching Neal.
Excellent information about John Johnston.
Glad you enjoyed it DJ. Thanks for watching.
"Watch your top knot" "Yourn too"
Mountain man language is quite colorful bucbucbuc111. Thanks for watching the video.
Great story which became agreat movie. My favourite film. Many thanks for information given
Great movie, wonderful story.
Tough man. Thank you for an informative video!
An amazing life. An amazing movie-inspired many of my travels.
Love the History as I did the movie. I watch it periodically and it is good every time. I'm a New Sub....Thank You
Thanks for watching and subscribing Dozz.
Wow I never new this was a true story Thanks for sharing this story These were real men tough men not like today's cry babies
Thanks for watching Allen.
Captivating and well done!
Thanks for the vote of confidence Jerry and thanks for watching.
Awesome. Thank you for the info.
Great movie, lots of great scenes.
Great Info, Thank You.
Thank you keep up the good work I love documentaries
Thanks for watching Jim.
Thanks for your work.
My pleasure!
The Carbon County Sheriff's Office in Red Lodge, Montana have portraits on a wall of each Sheriff that held Office. The first portrait in the order is that of Johnston.
The local Chamber of Commerce has a log cabin of his, as well.
Yep Mark. He spent a time of his later life Red Lodge. Thanks for watching the video.
Thank you for the information. That's my all time favorite movie. Top shelf mate. Cheers.
Great movie for sure Dave.