Can Everyone Become Talented? - Story of the Polgar Sisters (animated)
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- Lazslo Polgar, was one of the earliest advocates that great performers are made, not born. He had argued, that dedicated practice in any chosen field, could transform any healthy child into a genius.
He realized that the only way to prove his theory was to test it on his own future children. So he found a young Ukrainian woman named Klara, who found his arguments irresistible and ended up taking part in his bold experiment.
In 1969, Klara gave birth to their first daughter, Susan.
Laszlo needed Susan's achievements to be so dramatic, that nobody could question their authenticity. That was the only way to convince people, that their ideas about innate talent were all wrong. And then it struck him: Chess.
In 1974, Klara gave birth to a second daughter, Sofia. Then in 1976, to a third daughter, Judit.
By the time they had reached adolescence, all three sisters had accumulated well over ten thousand hours of specialized practice in chess. All three sisters would win many championships and set new world records.
The story of the Polgar sisters provides evidence for Laszlo's theory of dedicated practice. But the public was sure that, the sisters' success, was a consequence of unique talent. Susan was even described by the local newspaper as a child prodigy.
So here's a question for you:
Does everyone have the capacity to become a talented individual?
Lazlo: ...and that how we are going to breed genius children.
Karla: take me now
'Laszlo'... Or the Hungarian way: 'László'
Dude was smooth as hell
Kids thats how i met your mother
hahaha lol
😂 omg
- What is the purpose of life, dad?
- The purpose of your life is to play chess.
OH My God !
oh my god
welcome to the club, pal
To prove theory
To pass butter
“Sofia did not reach the heights of her sisters”
Beats 8 grandmasters at 14 lol
That shows you just how good they were.
like nebula and gamora
It proved that there was a genetic variance between the sisters.
@@SkepticalCaveman or variance of how dedicated they were? It's kinda hard to be the exact amount of dedicated... Each girl experience things at different stages in their mental defelopment since they were different ages.
@@AX5Terminator Genetic variance does absolutely exist, their father was a very determined man, theiy inherited it from him genetically. He proved nothing. If the experiment was done on people that had an intelligence below average then it would have failed. Intelligence is almost exclusive genetic (~90% if I remember correctly) so there is very little room for improvement. Over course you still have to study to learn something, but there is definitely no even playfield. Those with talent have much easier to improve and have a higher peak.
Mozart was obviously a genius, so was Newton. They both performed extraordinary achievements at a very young age. Granted, talent alone can only take you so far, but when a person have both extreme talent and training they are unbeatable.
Skeptical Caveman Evidence for this? From my understanding, intelligence is highly dependent on your environment
Sofia - considered the least talented out of her sisters. Also Sofia - responsible for “The Sack Of Rome” 5th greatest performance in chess history. Me - “Okay....”
@@chaos_deus0394 did you even watch or understand the point Polgar tried to make, what you just said completely throws that down the bin. She was the least curious, and the laziest among her sisters.
@@d4rk50ul5 I did she still put in a large amount of work to get to where she did even if she was the least successful of the sister's. That is a product of her hard work not talent. She got a result cause she worked for it.
@@chaos_deus0394
Are saying she was less talented but still manage to be nearly as good as them because she worked hard???
That is the opposite of what the experiment was trying to prove.
@@JKenny44 No, he said that she still worked hard, only less than her sisters.
@ololo518 Thomas zuniga said 'she had the least talent' in his first comment which was the opposite of what the video is trying to say. That's why I was also confused as Jack kenny was.
I think the reason we have “child prodigies” is not because some are naturally just able to understand and perform well in certain fields at a young age, but rather their curiosity towards that field is so strong that they end up putting in all the practice they need themselves as they observe and process the world around them.
I agree with Polgar, and this video was very excellently put together. Very glad I found it.
Hmm also I think environmental factors contribute too c: while I am by no means a 'child prodigy' if I never got praise from my peers for my drawings, I probably wouldn't have the level of skill I have today ^w^
I agree. Magnus Carlsen, unarguably THE best modern chess player, didnt even really even care about chess until he was 7 or 8. He just wanted to beat his dad. It was after that point that his interest peaked.
I honestly dont agree with him, since they are talented in working hard, and thats why the one who did the least well was the most lazy
@@d4s0n282 Exactly. Hard work, curiosity, and intelligence are all highly genetic. I wonder if magnus carlsen and hou yifan had a baby and made it work really hard at chess, would it be good, guess so because everyone can do everything :>
@@randyweller4622 Yeah, his DAD: he had a genetic affluence for chess. Good grief, how dense can you be.
To be fair, to marry a woman and raise kids all for the sole purpose of proving a theory would be a good marker of focus and determination, genetic or not
I see nothing wrong with that
No seriously I dont see anything wrong with that
@@aburakuma4600 noooothing at all... I mean he just made a child; forced her to play chess and all to prove he's right... totaly acceptable
@@aaddss9846 not forced there is nothing call love with artificial things love is devotion
aad dss and chose to marry solely based on whether the woman would have kids with him solely for the experiment.
@@aburakuma4600 You did not get the point. Read the comment again. To be fair the others in this thread did not either.
"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." - Tim Notke
Ro Bot what if talent and hard work? That just makes hard work seem redundant
@@owenb7911 then you get people like Einstein and Darwin. Personally I don't believe in talent. Just in high intelligence or not that could help in brain skills
@@bluegiant13 Or then you get someone like Roger Federer compared to someone like Lleyton Hewitt. There's no doubt Hewitt had as much passion and worked as hard as Federer, and probably even had MORE determination. But at the end of the day, while Hewitt was an amazing top-5 player in the world, he could never rival Federer as an all-time great.
Burcey B if you watch naruto lee is what you get when you work hard without talent
@@vickyjohn4489 leave the anime for now 🤣
At first, conducting an experiment on your future children sounds horrendous but, the result and the method prove this wasn't an uncaring father
“Conducting an experiment” sounds bad but there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
@@Quaggabagel well, parenting is basically parents experimenting on what's best for their kids.
@@alexanderchristopher6237 How come?
@@alexanderchristopher6237 yup. Except most parents don't agree they are participating in "an experiment", and instead most parents think they just *know* what's best.
Imo, if anyone is an "experiment", it's always the 1st child, 😂.
Restricting your child's potential is the cruellest thing a parent can do.
When you see a family and all the kids are top players at their sport, it is not the talent, it’s the teaching, hard work and good teaching.
Yep, this did remind me of Serena and Venus Williams.
Arletta Sloan
Of course you need talent but it isn’t all talent.
As a martial artist I see families of with 3 children and all 3 are national champions even though they have different attributes.
The difference is that the dad is sensei who knows judo and knows how to teach their children, helping the progress quick.
Put it this way: Equal starting and equal effort, undoubtedly the talented competitor will surpass the non-talented. Sucks to hear, but it seems the truth. Fortunately, natural talent doesn't equate to discipline, so those lesser given are capable of closing that gap through sheer determination.
Snipez Snipez
Exactly, talent don’t mean much without heart.
@@Marco..1 The guy had three daughters and all of them went on to become world-class chess players despite their parents' lack of talent, and you want to tell me he did not prove his goddamn point?
For some reason.. The ending part about believing that success is 1% talent, and 99% hard work - Caught me off guard, and made me think of my life, and in turn made me emotional, and my eyes teared up.
I came from a poor family.. neither of my parents made it through college. - I earned a bachelor's degree.. It took me 8 years to do it through hard work, and navigating a busy life. One small step at a time. - A lot of people have a bachelor's.. It's not uncommon at all.. But I made it too, when many in my position wouldn't have, and that's the underlying novelty. Im not rich, no not at all.. But provides me a living now, and I get to live a little easier than my parents did. It was damn hard to do, coming from nothing.. but they supported me along the way however they could.. I'm proud of myself, and my family is too. Anyhow.. I digress.. that saying just resonates with me to my core, because it's my experience too.
you really are amazing
Congrats! 🥳
Hope you reach higher as you get going
You just inspired me. Thank you
r/thattotallyhappend
@@alexfresh8951 It really doesn't sound farfetched... at all.
Imagine finding out the only reason you exist is because your father wanted to prove a theory.
They are more focused on the accolades they are receiving.. That's the difference between your outlook and theirs..
Rather than be the accident child
@@hamstertypewriter2787 True
not necessarily a bad thing, their father genuinely loved them But had a predetermined purpose
If it was a good theory, applied with care for the children, and it served to show everyone in humanity their true potential, I'd be soooo happy about it.
And that kids, is how I met your mother.
wait till this gets 1k likes
@@SpikeTheDankMeme that will be my 1st comment to reach that high my lord
Underrated comment.
Keep waiting
Luh moaw
Neat message, but I feel a need to qualify this a bit. Achievement is a combination of effort and opportunity. Undeniably the sisters' success is a product of their own hard work, but equally it is a product of having a parent who spent hundreds or possibly thousands of hours guiding them. Regardless of the necessity of personal effort, the role of environment and outside forces cannot be discounted.
I would also like to mention that talent is not worthless. While it is worthless without hard work, that doesn't mean it has no bearing on overall skill.
Also starting early has an outsized effect. There's a reason almost all the greats in a wide range of fields started as kids. Your brain has it's peak learning ability/plasticity as a kid and dedicating 1000's of hours at a young age basically permanently rewires your brain for that activity.
Additionally I think his hypothesis needs to be qualified a bit. Anyone with a sufficient innate intelligence can become great at almost anything*. For those with less intelligence they can still become great but at a more limited number of activities. Or they can achieve success but not greatness at more cerebral activities.
*barring physical limitations. Yeah there was that 5' 6" guy in the NBA but still. There are some limitations you just can't work around.
Big facts
@@RobertWinkler25 You CAN rewire your brain later in your life, even after your forties. It just takes so much longer, so much more effort that most people give up long before the effects of practice really kick in.
@@autumn4442 Right. Talent gives that quick easy success that provides the rush to keep practicing. In the end, however, talent only catalyzes success.
Did... did this guy just pull a smooth hookup, to marry a woman, academically and scientifically, on a national scale because the goverment is involved at some point?
Yes! Of course! He's a fucking dude! What do you think motivates him!? Thank god for a young nurds desirer to get laid. It's the driving force behind all the great advancements we all enjoy. Not everyone makes the team and gets a letter.
Faqit
He bamboozled everyone.
Naw. We're driven to get laid. At least men are. Their demonstration of intellect is just a mating dance like some many seen in nature.
I'm trying this on Tinder
I’ve played guitar since I was 5 and my parents always talk about how naturally talented i am. But it was sooo hard to get to where I am today, I remember struggling. I still struggle, that’s because there’s always more things to learn. It’s not natural it’s practice, a hard earned talent
8 Year Old Jonny Mizzone plays better then his brothers without practice than they do with practice. You say there is always more to learn but at the age of four, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart apparently absorbed everything to do with music with a tremendous appetite and seemingly without effort. Not only did he already know how to play his first instruments, the piano and the violin, but he now composed his first piano concerto. I am sure that you are very talented but it seems that some people are or were far more talented then you are.
@@TomTom-rh5gk you are wrong about Mozart. Yes, he started playing the piano and was composing music at a very young age, but his performances and compositions were norhing special to write about it (other than his early age) . He was pushed by his father, toured Europe with him, listened and met all the greatest composers of his time, and then after MORE THAN A DECADE of practice he became a great performer and even better composer.
@@jorgeespinoza3938 I wouldn't know I wasn't there. The web page indicated that he was very good. The issue is are there many factors that produces excellence or is there only one. Some deny the existence of talent and others deny the importance of practice. No one seems willing to admit †he existence of life changing events that happened to Albert Einstein and Ramanujan. No one can deny the excellence of Amira Willighagen or Jonny Mizzone at nine years old. Again it is not about Mozart it is about the existence of talent.
@@TomTom-rh5gk "Mozart was a child prodigy, to say the least, possessing a perfect musical memory and an almost god-given ability to read music. His hearing was so delicate that loud sounds would make him physically ill - a telltale indicator of autism spectrum disorder.
But among these gifts, Mozart was said to display a number of unusual social behaviors. While, of course, autism spectrum disorder was unheard of at the time, many of his behaviors would be dead giveaways now.
He struggled with impulse control and often engaged in dangerous behavior. As Mozart’s sister, Nannerl, put it: “Never, until he died, did he learn to exercise the most elementary forms of self‐control.”
Even his compositions may have indicated difficulties with attention, and many of his musical phrases mirrored his fixation with word repetition. Other reported behaviors included repeated facial expressions, repetitive body motions, and fixations on new things that caught his fancy."
@@JDRobertson He was different than others and it seems that difference helped his music.
Sisters had parents willing to train them at young ages. In other words your future is highly likely to be based off of your parents.
And a lot of parent don't recognise a lot of their children misbehavior is their fault, for the exact same reason you said.
In a very unfair manner I'd say you played your part too. Like how you generate your own learning (what you feel, what you think, how you react) paints the canvas for what you'll be and parents are just environmental factors, a strong one considering the context. But again, I'm being very unfair just to deliver the idea that, it's partly the toddler's 'fault'.
except then adopted twin studies find identical twins raised in compltely different environments are more similar in terms of IQ, personality etc. than typical brothers and sisters raised in the same family.
That’s kind of how it goes. That’s why you have to decide when and how much you’re going to take control of. Your parents are raising you this way but sometime above the age of 7, you can start learning and getting curious on your own. Example: most parents will let their kids do whatever nowadays. Usually the kid watches tv until it’s time to go to bed. But a kid can stop themselves and start reading facts or a good book instead of watching tv. But most won’t
mhd alr yeah. The point of the post was that a child’s life is highly effected due to the parents. It’s true, but i countered it with, if a kid wanted they could change their own path. Aka stop watching tv and practice their hobby. Most don’t, but some do.
“She thought he was crazy but they agreed to meet”
girl ignoring them red flags like a boss 😹
Hey, a life without risks is no life at all, right?
What red flags, he intended to marry her and give her children as a main objective
What in your opinion is one of the main objectives in life if not marriage and having children? Guy was just too straightforward about it... But hey, it worked on this woman.
Emil Sosnin it’s really not everyone’s objective. But hey if they’re happy that’s amazing. My comment is obviously a joke idk why are you all taking it seriously.
Sofia Polgar still became an International Master which is crazy good. So “lazy” still equaled to one of the best in the world.
If an IM is lazy what does that make 99% of the world😂
Thats tha power of starting sum when ur really yung
"Lazy" compared to two prodigies, so not lazy at all by layman's terms lol.
"lazy" only by polgar standards; less than fanatic won't do.
It was compared with her sister Judit and in the terms
of her talent. She performed, I believe 2960 tournament performance rating only at 14!! She was obviously not lacking in willpower at layman's term but she could reach her older sister or better if she continued.
Came here after reading Atomic Habits. Really a worth it thing that ever happened & this shows why childhood habits (good or bad) shape our future
It wasn't just chess, it was about it's environment created at their house that motivated them to play without burden... Absolutely Fantastic 😍
I recommend you go easy on the exclamation marks. "Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind" -- Terry Pratchett
IRL, the letters he answered last where "Ones with more exclamation marks than sanity dictates"
Came here because of the book also
@ Atleast I have a mind 😂👍
Me also after reading chapter 9 of Atomic habit
Me too from atomic habits🌝🔥.
Acctuly László wanted to teach math but Szófia was so intrested in chess so he was like"close enough"
This also means that you need good teachers and role models. All the better if those are your parents.
@@jewberggoldstein7112 That actualy doesn't make any sense
@@jewberggoldstein7112 wat
That's where I find myself a bit worried. I'm studying to be a teacher at the moment and we have such little resources/support. I would do anything to provide the best education to youngsters but teachers are considered baby sitters in most countries
@@jeremiegariepy5402 as stated in the video, you'll be better in giving motivation and support through experience and practice. I hope you a wonderful life future teacher
@@lordpeterdenuyo5565 How very kind of you 😊
"We are shaped by people surrounding us."
"They admire geniuses and will not identify those who work hard as it mean they admit to their own lack of hardwork"
Yikes
I think the takeaway is, the thing you should commit yourself to is the one you’re willing to work the hardest at
well said
I think it’s more so the other way around, ultimately you commit yourself the most to the things you work hardest towards; when you just sort of want something enough that working towards it doesn’t feel like work is when effort stops feeling like a chore
Yes that is one of the best thing you can do in your life, find that and work for it.
The first part is finding it which lots of people does not even try to do.
Then the work as well have to be consitent and "hard" so that also limits people.
End of the day always few left with this path, can we imagine where everyone raises their kids as Polgar Laszlo? Community will collapse?
Not just that. Many young geniuses work hard only to burn out as adults. You have to love the chose field and that was what Lazlo emphasized. he believed that specialized training and fortunate circumstances would be important in instilling the genius
"Hey wanna marry me to test my experiment."
*"Sure"*
Becoming talented require obsession
Like Bobby Fischer
@@Kuumin Rip legend
@@aburakuma4600 F to pay respect
@@arlettasloan6453 did you even watch the video? You seem to have completely missed the point.
@SURFEY you can be manipulated to obsess something, especially if you are a child. Give positive feedback on something you want your child to be good at and do it long enough and there will be high chance that they will obsess over it.
Mozart, as a son of a musical instructor, was filled by music when he was a child. The exposure helped Mozart develop his passion and skills. Even at age 6 when he was composing his own pieces, it wasn’t considered that good but he was still able to do it because he had 2 years of musical experience. Then after years and years of thorough training, he was already considered a master at it.
Good one, it really is similar!
I’m sorry but this is not similar at all. Mozart is recognised as a Savant who could just naturally play. Nobody is born knowing how to play Chess.
i heard a similar story with Michael Jackson
.... I think through this whole thing...I just learned I might be a savant 🥺
GameswithRambo Lol I hope that’s true but I seriously doubt it mate 😂
Everyrime Laszlo made her wife pregnant, he promoted his 'pawn' to queen 👑
🙈
This... Is weird...
😂😂
what are you drinking to come up with crap like that?
Strange commentary most likely from a strange person.
Hardest part is to figure out how to practice on your own if no one is there to teach you
I love it that they had 3 daughthers, I love it that women were raised to be geniuses.
Oh my god this story could be me! I totally agree to this. I have an older sister who is way smarter than I am. When she was only a baby people began to notice this. She started speaking earlier than others and later as she grew up always read books and learned things way quicker.
Me on the other hand started speaking at like 2 years old and It always took me longer to learn things...
When I was like 10 years old my father told me that I wasn't as smart as her and I have to be focused and need to practise a lot or otherwise I won't get far in life...so no time for laziness...
Two years later my father died because of a disease and I remembered what he told me.
I tried to stop procrastinating and started focusing on what I want. Years came by and I slowly became better at school. Then when I was 16 I graduated from "Realschule"(German school system) and was the best in my class. 2 years later I moved out from home, still went to school and worked ... i paid my first flat on my own. Later I got my Alevels (it's the highest school graduation you can get in germany )and have now the option to study.
When I was child my family wouldnt have thought that I would get so far. But I did. Only because of hard work. Focus. Believing in myself.
You might ask what happend to my sister. She is still smart, still reads a lot of books, but she didn't really learn to work hard.
She has only a "Hauptschul Abschluss" (which is the lowest graduation you can get in germany) lives in a flat which belongs to my mum. She doesn't work. She isn't realy doing anything with her life.
She has far more potential than me, but still I'm the one people would call successful.
Hard work people! Always work hard!
Me: proceeds to write letters to Ukrainian women
Timothy Gerke Careful with that Timmy you might just end up marrying a cam girl lol
AKA Mail order bride
Or Russian women
Now imagine what levels the daughters' children could have reached if they had continued the experiment using the father's methods
Still can!!
I hate it when people say I'm lucky to be as talented as they say. They don't see the strains.
Only if I knew this when I was 5 years old
I’m now reading about this in a book. How the hell is this not a movie or show?!?! This is phenomenal and I had no idea
Absolutely true! I always thought of talent as nothing more but mere interest in some subject. Geting good at the field of interest is question of hard work and dedicated practice! Great story🙂
@therealnightwriter
I wouldn't say that. A lot of people have the mindset of "I'm interested because I'm good at it", myself included. It probably starts off as a meager amount of talent, then translates to more time spent in the subject accumulating in a better overall performace. The freshman who was good at drawing in 2nd grade is a much better artist than me, who is older than him but started later due to not starting out good. That's "talent".
@therealnightwriter insulting? Why? It's not that they worked really hard to get it. Lol
@therealnightwriter then good for me
@@arlettasloan6453
That's exactly what I said, isn't it?
You forget that you also need to roll high for the environment you're born in. It's unlikely to become a master chess player if the family, economic situation, etc. doesn't play along with your dreams. Granted, if you have caring and capable parents like the ones those three sisters have, then becoming a grandmaster might be more than just possible. But if you don't have those benefits...
Jutka was among the top 10 players in the world (among men!)
And the Polgar sisters also knew 7 languages.
Genius can and should be developed from early age.
Most of us are kept stupid at the indoctination institutes called 'schools'
Society doesn't want many geniuses, but factory workers.
Btw: the Polgar sisters were home schooled.
Not something easy for poor people. Parents will work all the time and not enough money to pay a teacher or even form themselves to do it themselves.
It's actually the environment and culture that keep genius at bay.
How many times have we heard that women cannot be good at STEM, women cannot be good at finance, chess, machinery, cannot be good at being a doctor and etc.
The indoctrination is as much as your religion and the upbringing your dad passes down.
it should be a option in india for those who can afford 😐
Exactly. Schools cater to the lowest denominator, especially nowadays and in the US. But if you look into it studies show developing people with potential have much more impact overall-for the individual, and society.
Schools have a goal to help all children pass (which means they focus on the weakest and / or disruptive children). Home schooling will depend on the goals of the parent, some parents home school because they hated school and want their children to have an easier / more relaxed time, others home school because they want their children to excel with one to one attention and tailored learning, which they can't get in a school environment. Also, home schooling won't work if the parents are uneducated.
You put my confidence back in me. And if I were to doubt I would achieve, I will watch that again. Thanks so much.
Einstein was known to have an extreme dedication if he started something. He worked years to get to his theory of general relativity, this is another example of this kind. Of course some might have a slight advantage because of their genes... BUT if you don't work for it, you'll never be good at it. Cristiano Ronaldo or Miroslav Klose are also a great examples, as youngsters both where thought to be not talented much, in Klose's case his trainers said he should stop playing football since he's not good enough...
And now? Ronaldo is one of the greatest of all time, and Klose has scored the most goals for his national team (germany) and also has the record for most goals at a world cup. Both worked hard to get there. Some say Ronaldos entire life is made out of training, ... THIS is how you become the best. Not because you've been born with it. And even if some might have a slight advantage, just work harder than they do and you'll be better.
There is another thing, not being good at something doesn't mean your unable to get better. For example in schools some kids are called talented at languages because they are good in these classes. Others might be much worse in them, and anyone tells them that this is just how it is. BUT those we call language-talents are just those who can learn the best with vocabulary, since this is the most common way of teaching in schools. But it is prooven that this approach is very very bad for the most people. The brain doesn't learn a language like that usually. I myself was declared being bad at languages, i might have been the worst in the whole school even compared to the lowest classes. And now? Now i'm writing this text in a language i was extremely bad at, until i started to learn it in different way.... i think it's slightly better now isn't it? ;)
Ronaldo not talented as kid? Dude was shitting on everyone.
I LOVE the Miro Klose example. His coaches said, he is a very limited player but he works harder than anybody and is always open for new ideas, in fact, generating new ideas how to improve what he has.
Do not forget that Einstein saw relativity before he worked it out and his teachers called him lazy.
@@TomTom-rh5gk Einstein actually was quite good at maths and very very patient. The general theory of relativity was hard to express in formulae. Took Einstein a decade, and he was not lazy enough to decline help and instruction on Riemannian geometry.
I did not I say Einstein was bad at math. I said someone called him lazy. I can't know if he was lazy or not.
Hermann Minkowski
His mathematics professor, and future collaborator, Hermann Minkowski called him a “lazy dog” and physics professor, Jean Pernet, even flunked Einstein with a score of 1 in an experimental physics course.
I am sure Einstein was good at math bu† he needed Hermann Minkowski help with his theory.
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is there a movie about this?, this sounds like good material for drama.
there's a lot man from movies to anime. it's a slogan for lofe
jemar's bar henti ?
I believe the same but I see lots of resistance to that idea, even from university teachers who really should know better. It goes hand in hand with the fixed mindset: people believe you're either born for something or you're not. Luckily that's been proven to be wrong (watch Carol Deck Ted Talk and The Power of belief by Eduardo Briceno). It's very interesting, specially the fact that you get much greater brain activity with a growth mindset as opposed to a fixed one.
It's also curious for me that I thought of having a fixed mindset as obviously bad but when I looked closely I saw that I too was under the influence of the same fixed mindset. It's so ingrained in us that we don't even realize it operating in our daily lives.
We need more stories like the story of the Polgar sisters because, ultimately, action is the only way we can help others realize this for themselves so here's my 2018 new year's resolution: prove the naysayers wrong and convey the idea that yes, we can change.
Well said.
I really like that growth mindset concept over the fixed mindset.
And I can really appreciate your point of view.
The resistance is because people would have to admit that their shortcomings are their own fault and there are some who need to believe they are annointed and special.
I think it matters significantly what skill you're trying to get good at. For example take weightlifting. I know from more than 10 years of experience that there are those they can get more in one month of training than others can get in 20 years. Your genetics play the largest role. There are men that don't even work out that have very impressive physiques. I understand that weight training and chest are two very different things but that's why this whole argument needs to be better defined.
@@rickysewell3948 that is a totally different concept. Weightlifting versus bodybuilding. Both will depend on your body type, like the mesamorphs have a natural athlete build, endomorphs are naturally bigger and stronger, and the ectomorphs are naturally slimmer. Then you'll get into influencing your metabolism in order to influence your body training results.
But when it comes down to enhancing your own intelligence, it just takes exposure, experience, and focusing on the areas that you want to improve in. Some people naturally gravitate towards the things that others see as having a genius level of talent. But since that person wants to be good in a specific field, that person will become an expert at what others don't pay too much attention to.
I'm just saying that I totally agree with the narrative of the video, although you may have a good counter point. I just don't think that your physical attributes will have too much of an impact on your cognitive aptitudes. But your cognitive faculties can have a direct effect on your physical attributes.
@@nodozhit well like the body the brain also has its own wiring. When it comes to the wiring of the brain we just can't see that. For example those with ADHD have observable differences in the brain. There is different neurochemistry going on.
Wow that's a great story! Thank you for sharing! I wish that my parents were as dedicated as the Polgar sisters father, I wish they have seen that portion of me being an artist, as I loved to draw ever since. Now if I become a mother myself, I'll definitely do this. :D thank you again!
Some of us feel sorry because they were born to prove a point, but they have achieved something most of us will never come close
The minute I red "Polgar " I was like "thats those chess players " now I know there story
their*
I was like
"JUDIT? I swear to god, it's about her and her family. Didn't know she had sisters though."
ARTASTICA
you sound really young. Better hit the books and become a super genius while you can
@@NN-sp9tu how about u
I have been born with an innate talent for art. I have been drawing obsessively since the age of five. I never became great at it because I never dedicated myself to it. I believe this is because no one in my environment took an interest or fostered or encouraged it. I am now 48 and have decided to take it up again and because I'm practicing daily combined with the innate talent I am better than I have ever been before. I have also lost about 80% of my eyesight due to a genetic disorder. I don't even know how I can still see well enough to draw, but the evidence is there. This video is very encouraging to me thank you.
Indeed fascinating and lovely to hear this from you for the first time!!! Thank you very much for sharing this video ❤
Talent is something founded in the effort put into your family. He spent years teaching his children and coaching them in chess. That kind of talent takes a special person to even attempt in the first place.
When you look at a great magician performance, you realize that the only true magic is dedication.
Ever since I was little I had a talent for spotting detail, and this talent has HELPED me improve my artistic abilites very quick.
You might think i’m extremely lucky that my talent and passion match, but I also have a major handicap.
I have extremely low energy due to my autism, and this means I can’t dedicate as much time to art.
What I’m trying to say is that we all have things that push us forwards and backwards, but what really gets you somewhere in the long run, is like the video said, hard work.
Want to know something funny?I have since 9 y/o a picture with Susan in my wall's bedroom. She came as a special guest here to my country (Venezuela) in a tournament of young category. I remember she spell a discurse to us the kids in fluent Spanish. I know that she was a really good player, but not at this level wtf. Its feel kinda good now seeing my photo with her! Amazing video also!
Fascinating! I've always thought that "talent" it's just a matter of dedication y discipline, but, for some reason, people think it's something you're born with. Isn't that weird? Lazlo Polgar has proven what I suspected!
Thank you for sharing this, man.
I've known the Polgar sisters for a loooong time, but this is the first time I hear their inspiring story. Great job!
Success in this case is more like 0% talent, 10% hard work and 90% opportunity
Great story, thanks for animating and sharing! :)
I believe the general tendency to explain skill as a manifest of talent is not that the efforts of succesfull people are wanted to be looked down on, but that it protects the less succesful people from the grim realization they were not as succesful not because of a lack of talent, but because of a lack of determination and effort.
Wonderful video.
Wonderful message.
You did great work on this video!
Glad you enjoyed it :)
Thank you for inspiring me to make videos like this. The 10,000 hours of practice will surely make a difference
I know this story since my childhood.. My father made me and my sister to go for chess from our 6 years... He's dream was to write a book "that's how I became a father of two grandmasters"... We didn't succeed to much in chess although we trained enough...We had some achievement's but nothing serious ones. In our 16-15 we quit playing chess because of lack of motivation... I didn't become a world champion but chess formed logical thinking in me so it wasn't wasted time...
He didn't motivated you, he didn't gave you intrinsic motivation and aspiration, if he just "made you go for chess". Polgar dude, made it playfully, made chess part of their life, make it a fun engaging game basically.
@@6drk6mrc6 why not? He tried to motivate with those successful stories about Polgar's sisters.
@@yurisamarin8200 Did he play with you?
@@6drk6mrc6 yeah,of course, until nowdays we play from time to time...he was a chess trainer at school and my grandfather as well
@@yurisamarin8200 Oh, okay then, seems like this theory is not that hard.
This is such a golden motivational video
I love it! I first heard of the story in the book Bounce, and it really kind of shows you that you really have to work hard to be good at something. For anyone who liked this, I recommend reading Bounce :)
...any links..
Innate talent is not wrong, some children or people are born talented, this should not be denied.
I think of talent as a skill multiplier. For example, if you are twice as talented as someone else, and both of you put in the same amount of effort, you will become twice as skilled as them. However, you might only practice enough to be better than the other person, so you don't live up to your full potential.
My point is, while it is true that talent is nothing without hard work, that doesn't mean it doesn't affect skill.
But what is talent, quantitatively?
So, do you agree with Lazslo or disagree?
Having these people as proof, I don't think talent is real at all. I think talent is an excuse invented many years ago for people who didn't reach a point they strived for and, when they saw someone else who got there, they said it was because of "innate talent".
@@ArielTst that's not true. The word talent ist just grossely misused and misunderstood nowadays. There exist phenotypical differences that can give an individual a "boost" when it comes to a specific field - that is talent. Likewise there are differences that give people disadvantages at said fields (having only one arm e.g. will make your boxing career harder)
@@ArielTst You ever heard of a man known as Shaquille O'neal. He was known for being one of the laziest people to play basketball, yet he's a top 5 centre of all time. Alex Morgan didn't play football/soccer until she was 13. Now she's one of the best forwards. Ken Norton didn't box until he joined the military, during his late teens. Now he's one of the greatest heavyweights and beat Muhammad Ali who'd considered the GOAT. Talent is definitely there, whether it comes from raw physique or game sense. But if it isn't nurtured, then hardwork will catch up.
I’m a percussionist and have been taking lesson for a little over a year. One day, while I was waiting for my lesson to begin, I saw this really young kid (maybe 4 or older) come in for lessons. Every time I see him I always wonder how good he’ll be once he grows up. Having a child do something from a young age will make them good, but also taking them to lessons would make that child very amazing and talented in whatever they’re learning.
Machine: what is my purpose
Rick: you pass butter
Polgar sister: what is my purpose
Dad: you play chess
Unexpected joke, but funny nonetheless.
as a hungarian, I greatly appreciate this content!
We often hear about people who excel at their sport starting at an early age. But what about those who started late? Isn't there anyone who started something in his adulthood and made it to the top? Please bring us some stories of those rare jades as well. I'd really be grateful to you because so far I haven't come across anyone who started at their 20s or 30s or... and became a legend. I'm sure those peope will inspire your viewers including me to lot as most of usdon't start that early in life.
Hey, i don't know what it's worth, but i can tell you my father's story
He had a troubled youth and settled very late, pretty much when i was born (he was 32)
When my sister was born, he was 38 and he decided to turn one of the domains he liked into his passion and his work : wine
He had liked wine since his teenage years but didn't know that much about it
Long story short : he tried standard studies for this field, he didn't graduate but he learned, he went on his own, partnered with someone, it didn't work out but he learned, he partnered with someone else, it went a bit better, but it still wasn't meant for the long run
But he learned
And so on
Now it's been close to 15 years since he decided to embrace wine and he's beginning to show his own craft in internationally renowned salons (raw wine in London last i heard), his degustation skills are acknowledged by the best and he's still improving
I don't know how relevant this is since it's an isolated story, but i hope you'll find it interesting at least
I'm not a native English speaker so feel free to ask me if i was ambiguous, unclear or straight up wrong anywhere
@@youribosque9832 Your father is a very inspiring person. You are very lucky to have him and I'd love to hear more of him. Thanks for sharing his story with me. I wish your dad all the luck in this world. This is the kind of story that I was looking for to learn from as I didn't start learning any skill in my school life. I don't know if I should blame the education system in my country or myself, but that's just how it is. I write my own songs occasionally but I don't have a musical background like most of the people in the field. But I really wanna be the best songwriter and singer I can be in my lifetime. So I started taking my lessons on piano and music theory two months ago. It would've been easier if my parents had allowed me to take music as my major instead of engineering. Anyway, I'm managing the time to score good in engineering to not let my parents down and also music to not let myself down. Your father has made me believe that even if I fail to pursue music right now, I can always do it in the future and excel at it despite starting late and not having as much knowledge and experience as others of my age in the same field. I hope I can inspire somebody else in the future just the way you have inspired with your father's story. :)
@@youribosque9832 Neither am I but I got your point. :D
@@stellarastar2118 there is a man called (النابغة الذبياني )( the dhibyani genius). He started poetry in his fourties and ppl still learn his poems thousands of years later. I heard van gogh started painting at 27 ( or at least seriously).
The word "talent" devalues one achievement through hard work and sacrifice.
I think there is a strong reason for people to still dismiss this idea and label people as "child prodigies" and the like. Following the idea of trained success rather then talent, everyone who did not escape mediocrity would only be left to blame themselves. And I guess most people will rather say "I am not talented" than "I am not hard working enough".
I think that mostly this unwillingness to accept on ongoing failures is what keeps people from changing their lives in a significant manner.
At least he gave her a purpose, many adults never find her purpose.
Men... Your channel is pure gold🙏😁👏👏👏
I think anyone can become so talented, if you have the right person to guide you.
There was a big risk in this experiment. If what the father wanted his daughters to be good at was just too much for the daughters. That would make their life a living hell with the constant idea of failure lurking in their minds.
Evidently, his process was nurturing as it was effective. He was raising daughters after all. And he took a good opportunity and proved a point.
Talent is this abstract concept people invented to call out other people achievements without acknowledging their hard work.
This is a motivational video and did make me motivational, but one thing I hate is when the idea of you only need hard work to be successful. You need a lot of things other than hard work. I would say hard work would amount to 40~70%. You also need to work smart, to have good/average luck, and good reliable people.
It's painful when you work the hardest, but fail cuz you ignore the other important part. Like it's not practice makes it perfect, it's the right practice makes it perfect.
So I want to say that you can achieve your dreams, but it isn't as simple as just doing hard work.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
I don't agree with you thoroughly bit still it was good 🙂👍
Seems like you're trying to say "work smarter. Not harder" which I agree with if that's the case
Exactly this. Work smarter, not harder.
That's not what happened here. The father did not give the sisters the best chess training. They did not have access to the best chess training in Russia.
I agree with the video.I got 300 IQ test just after watching this video.
Believing and labeling someone as talented can hurt the individual deemed talented. Even if it’s true, you have to eventually be able to get yourself out of that frame of mind and work as hard as everyone else, or harder than everyone else would be a better way to see it. Although talent is a tricky thing to describe and point out, I do think it exists.
And by the way, 7 talented people didn’t work hard...
I think that is true. Talented people, or rather people who are quick to learn basics and innately handy tend to catch the basics fast and then fall off and expect their "talent" to make the work for them, which hinders them greatly.
Who are those seven talented people?
I was referring to the amount of unlikes this video had. It had 7 at the time. Has more now though.
@@CrisSkyTube Okay. Thanks for explaining.
You are as wrong as wrong can be. If an individual believes that he will be successful he will work harder.
This is the most amazing story about hardwork and talent I've heard! I know Judit Polgar but didn't know about this story.
I like this guy’s accent and the presentation of the subject was brilliant too
Guy married a completely random women and had children with her just for the sake of a research, I've never heard of a more dedicated person
He misses the point that its possible that laszlo was an exceptional teacher even if he wasnt an exceptional chess player, having a world class teacher can be just as substantial as having world class talent.
Right. 30 000 hours of dumb drilling will bring you nowhere.
That would have still proved his point that ability is developed, not inherited. Also, I believe that Judit was mentored by Bobby Fischer for at least part of her childhood.
There's also the possibility that the three were just naturally good at learning things due to their genetics. If we had another example that had no genetic correlations to the previous ones then it would be different but as it stands there's still the low chance that the similar results are due to similar genetics.
In other words this experiment is pointless since neither side is proven nor disproven completely. People in favor of nurture have another anecdote to brag about while the people in favor of nature have reason to believe said anecdote doesn't prove anything for real. If their learning curve is due to genetics, that still means that "talent" exists in some shape or form.
And you miss the point that his HARD WORK was a main factor in their success, in addition to their HARD WORK. Which is exactly what he was trying to prove. He wasn't naturally talented at teaching, and they weren't naturally talented at learning. They all put in the work to BECOME world class.
People use "natural talent" as a crutch to justify their own failures. "Others are more successful than me because I never discovered what I'm naturally good at. Nothing to do with my lack of extreme effort, of course!"
Lazo proved 95% of parents dont care about their childs well being.
He should have adopted a child too just to prove it's not his or his wife's genes or that they had complementary genes for success
There are people out there that thought they had zero talent but I for one believe that their talent is to learn the talents of others, to not be restricted by one ability they are good at but to learn multiple ones as life goes on.
So to become good at something you only need:
- Start from age 3
- Focus solely on one skill
- Have parents 100% dedicated to your success in a fun and loving way with no tiger mom psychological torture bs
Good luck making 'geniuses' to the other 99.999% of the world that can't have these conditions lol
While I agree it's difficult to make "geniuses" without early curiosity and supportive parents, the key takeaway from this video is that everyone can become proficient, even skilled, at anything they can put practice into.
Case in point: Vincent van Gogh was in his twenties before he even started painting. But he put a lot of work into it, and he became very skilled. Though he wasn't recognized during his life, today he is seen as one of the greatest painters who ever lived.
@@vidblogger12 I believe anyone can be "decently adequate" at things I just don't believe anyone can be proficient or able to compete at the highest levels of that area. Just like someone with an IQ of 90 can never aquire a PhD in physics or how someone at 5'7 with even average athleticism can never compete in D1 basketball
@@SouRGraphics Shortest NBA player in history was 5'3". Who says you can't play basketball if you are short? Pretty much anyone can compete at the highest levels if they put in the hours. Children have a lot the biggest advantage in they have more time, but adults can catch up.
@@Lilitha11 and wasn't he able to dunk lol?
The reality is you need talent at the top level no matter how you look at it. There are hundreds of thousands of kids wanting to make it to the nba. the ones that make it aren't only talented but also put it a shit ton of hours into their game, sabotaging their school studies and such. It's always been this way
Yes mugsy is 5'3 but you only saw the one person who did make it and not the tens of thousands who were rejected.
@@SouRGraphics There are tens of thousands who are rejected but how many put in the time? Let me put it this way, how many people practice for 6 hours everyday, for 15-20 years straight and then spend another hour or two everyday just focused on general health stuff to get in shape and then they also play games on top of it as well, and then can't make it into the NBA?
It would be hard to measure that but I am thinking nearly everyone who has put in that much time will make it. It is easy for people to put in 'a lot of time' but far less than others and say the other person has talent they don't but if you don't put in the time how do you know?
Cant believe she fell for that "we need to produce babies and teach them to play chess to prove a theory" line.
When people say that a talented person has simply born with natural gifts, it sounds like an offense to me. They are neglecting all the effort and time one had to dedicate to master his area, either playing an instrument or excel in math, etc.
This poor mentallity of "it's in his/her genetic" is just an excuse for those who don't have the guts to invest plenty of time to comprehend the matter profoundly and instead, waste time complaining. Therefore, I think one way we all could appreciate other's work better is to understand at least a little of every matter. In this way, when we face a game of chess, we'd realise how difficult the game is and how good one is playing; when we visit a museum, we'd know how difficult is to create a masterpiece and how much effort the painter/sculptor needed to put in. This way, thoughts like "it was easy for him, he's born gifted" would not come out so often.
Techically it contains a sliver of truth because some will have a slight genetical advantage over others
It HURTS to admit the irrelevance of talent to success under the condition of the subject not being successful in his or her life. That's denial.
Definitely agree. Talent is an excuse made from people who don't want to recognize their lack of effort compared to someone better than them.
Talent gives you an edge in the very beginning, but it's the hard work of the years to come that will make the difference, not talent.
@@gremlinfifty2308 Of course I don't deny the role of a good genetic on giving someone competitive advantages... But take the example of bodybuilding (the sport that I love and could speak with more property): at first you think it matters a lot if your veins pop easily or if you are ectomorph or endomorph (tendencies to gain weight), but in the end each of these has advantages and disavantages when it comes to build the shape, you just need to play with the cards life gave you, afterall you can't change it. Nevertheless, there is no objective mean to say one body is better or worse, the only person to judge you is yourself. Be commited, exploit your potencial, the results shall come.
Some people are born with more natural talent but they need to practice longer to refine those talents. Of course it’s natural talent but it’s also hard work and dedication.
Also shows the importance of good parents spending time with their children.
The sisters are proof that champions are made granted they start early and have the best guidance possible.
This was super inspiring. Thank you for making this video. God bless you!
What is my purpose?
you pass the butter.
Oh my god.
The "experiment" shows that hard work leads to massive improvement but it doesn't help with determining peak human performance due to a very small sample size.
this video showed me two thinks:
some history behind the polgar sisters( i heard of judit because i am a chess player)
and hard work is worth more than talent
thank you very much for this video
Loved the video! Thank you soooooo much! ^_^
This would have been more intriguing if the three sisters had become champions in different spheres. World champion athletes usually have a natural advantage, bone density, tendon flexibility, etc, over ordinary mortals, so the idea that these siblings had a specific brain patterning is a possibility.
There was a scientist who developed tests for musicians and he discovered that concert pianists all had a degree of flexibility in their finger joints that had nothing to do with training. Similar tendon flexibility in the wrists occurred in high performing violinists. People without these advantages could still be professional, successful musicians, but they were unlikely to make it to the highest grade of performers.
i think your body to some degree adapt if you practice a field as a kid. but i get your point. i think the hard work your whole life goes a long way, but womans chess wasnt the hardest competition. at the time not that many woman were even trying to become great at chess let alone working on it from childhood.
But all that is not measurable performance. Team sport athletes always work together. Michael Jordan wouldnt have won champion titles all by him self.
You would need a measurable solo performance, to really say it's about talent or not.
I'm not saying i disagree with you, there are just a lot of factors that need to be takin into consideration
@@ButlersTraining Let me give you one example of which I am aware. The late Bob Munden, who was a champion at fast draw, was put through a number of tests on his reflexes. These showed that his reaction speed was faster than the strike of a Cobra. He could move faster than almost any person's visual cortex can register, in other words, he was able to draw and shoot before you saw his hand move. Mr Munden was a dedicated shooter who expended thousands of rounds a month in practice, but even so, Nature gifted him with something very special.
@@thec7889 The commentator's remark about developing ANY healthy person may be unintentionally, disingenuous since we have no knowledge of the IQ's of these sisters; I suspect they were well above average. Since IQ is fixed at birth, it is possible they would have excelled at a great many intellectual disciplines regardless of the intensity of their training.
@MsSunhappy Current thinking is that IQ is set at birth, so if you are below average, no amount of training is going to change that. As Prof Jordan Peterson has said, there is a Nobel Prize for anyone who can increase someone's IQ.
Amazing.We Need more people like him who can prove a point to humanity.
Except he proved nothing.
If I remember correctly Fischer spent some time with the Lazslo family. It must have helped them to have advice from one of the best chess players in history.
Aren't they Jewish and he is an anti-semetic person?
The only thing this experiment demonstrates is the impact of exposure during childhood. Nothing more.
exposure is not equal with talent, qed.
Thank you for sharing this inspiring story with awesome visuals :)
So basically talent is just a headstart gift from a parent that cares about making their child exceptional.
Almost all genius musicians start as children.