Honda Civic i-shift gears actuator inspection and testing... with a twist! 😕
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This Honda Civic i-shift gears actuator was brought to me to "check"... as was believed that was not working...
(Which might well be the case still...🤷♂️)
Anyway, the reason this was brought to me, was because someone else apparently diagnosed it a being faulty...
Anyway, all explained in the video... including the twist... which is right at the end...
Hope you enjoy the video.
Any questions or comments put them below.
Like always, thank you for watching!
You are more than fair in knowing where to draw the line with customers, Luis.
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It is a bit difficult sometimes... not going to lie...
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Keep up the good job my brother from jamaica
@@LMAutoRepairsim totally with you also if he know's it all why not fix it himself 🤣👍
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Mechanic.for 15 Years does not make him a expert in electronics like your Self ,I’ve been working of cars since I was 15 I’m 64 now ,and never stop learning new things every day at work and from to people like you, thanks
Absolutely!
My grandfather used to say...
"We spend our lives learning, and we die knowing nothing..."
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Love this channel. I also watch Diagnose Dan...he also gets the jobs that have a heap of parts thrown at them by others and no fix. You just keep doing what you do best...the methodolgy and the banter is what makes this channel.
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Totally agree with your reasoning, don't waste your time with wasters who can't even describe parts correctly. Alex.
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I agree 100%. Gear selector is the one inside the car, that was the gear actuator
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Gear switch selector its called inside the car and gear actuator selector its called to the gearbox
However !!, - Everyone seems to be missing an important point here, - There has to be an ELECTRONIC Gear Selector, too ! (Which is responding to the 'selected control instruction' by the driver...)
What does it matter what the part is called.
The issue is have you carried out a repair on that part to the best of your ability. The answer is YES.
Their mistake was not giving you the complete car to diagnose.
And your error of judgement was to attempt to repair a part that was removed from the car without your diagnosis.
Keep up the good work and don't let it worry you.
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Also very true...
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If only there were more people like you in the industry, the motor trade would not be in the gutter as It is right now, keep up the great work.
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Hi Luis, don't let one guy put your spirit down. What it proves he's got on the job experience not the theory behind which is the reason why he's probably misdiagnosed the issue.
You make good judgement based on theory n practical expertise mate.
Keep up the good work.
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You fixed the part that they bring to you,you did well done.Don't worry ,owners allways wants to fix their problems only.you did'nt inspect the car so it's not your problem.good job.thank you
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As a retired engineer, correct nomenclature of machinery is everything when trying to describe a problem. In my book, "x selector" is an user operated device to control a particular system. A "x actuator" is a device that moves another upon command. I admire you for your patience and restraint. Breathe, me friend.....
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"I've been working on cars for 15 years"... I hope you smiled at him and walked away. Well my father loves telling other people he's been driving a car for over 50 years and he's the most dangerous and incapable driver I know. The passage of time doesn't make a person good at anything in many cases it is the opposite. Love your videos, your thoroughness, logic, attention to detail and pride in your work. That is not up for debate, never doubt yourself from someone's arrogant attempts at shaming you. Being humble shows good character to me. You never stop learning, as someone said to me many years ago... "the more you know, the more you realise you don't know"
Very, very true!
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So the guy who has worked on cars for 15 years was having a go at you and yet he can't diagnose the fault himself, Just forget about it you do a great job fixing things that most people would say are unfixable
Pretty yes... he was...
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Louis we know how great you are. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
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it's a little ambiguous, anyhow whatever you call it, that's the piece they brought you to look at, and you did, it's working 👍
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Luis, you do a wonderful job, you know it too, we, the ones who follow you, know it too! I don't think it's worth complicating with people like them! Too bad for those who hit these "mechanics", because they end up paying a lot more money and time than if they hit the right place for the first time! Keep it up, we have a lot to learn from you! 👍
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Twenty years ago I worked as a self employed mechanic in Long Sutton Lincs I always had people bring me the stuff others could not repair. So I know how you feel when someone tells you they know better when they I brought it to you to fix it, When they could not.
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Luis. Your right! Remember. it's the NUT behind the steering wheel that SELECTS the gears lol..... Oh and we can always send the" boys" round HA ha !
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Yet another great video, one thing that I have learned from your and other channels is you never stop learning please keep them up Luis!
Absolutely true!
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Keep doing what you're doing, I've learnt a lot from your channel.
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I fix phone boards and i get to know many people that think they know everything and try to teach you i hate that.
I like your videos man you make it so simple thankss.
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You are absolutely right! I have a Jazz i-shift and it was the actuator that was broken. The owner should have brought the report from Honda to show you when he brought the actuator in! But it was a great video now I understand more of the actuator and how it works.
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gear shifter is in car , gear selector is in gearbox as I've always known it hehe you brushed around it but hammered it in the end great vid
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Hi Luis! In toyota MMT there are shift motor and select motor< so maybe in hondas they are the same, that is why maybe it was colled "gear selector". And in toyotas MMT mechanical wear of the actuator assembly is the cause of the failure and not the motors. Also hot glue doesn't seem a decent quality repair, especially under bonnet where it is hot and the glue may become liquid again. I understand that conversation went wrong and that is the result. Thanks for the video!
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If I was you, I just kick them out from the yard. There are this kind of people out there so just ignore them and keep inspire us
Thanks for all the hard work you do.
Kind regards
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We don't mind you talking keep em coming. It's easier to fix cars than fix people's behavior.
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14:52 I like how you use your strip lights as a cd rack. 👏😂
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Well said Luis. I don't understand why people ask for help then criticize your decision. You know what you are doing and that's all that matters. I think you made the right decision not to take on that job. They aren't helping you to help them at all.
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Gear selector to me is the part on gearbox, what the gear actuator connects to.
Inside the car is more likely to be called the gear shift selector or obviously on a manual it would be the gear stick.
Even on a MANUAL CAR they have a gear selector whats on the gearbox, the gear cables would connect to it.
Understand people use different words for similar items.
Possibly...
Remember, that as I have mentioned, they have replaced the whole gearbox... same problem...
Most likely with a used one... but still...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
My instructor told me that you can have 15, 20 ,30 years of experience doing the wrong thing, Got some cars that where down for months, years Showed up and got fixed in 3 hours lol and I`m 22 when I show the mechanics the problem and try to explain how I get to the solution which most people won`t tell them, there start to get very defensive and talk about I don`t know anything, there working on cars for 30 years, I just start fixing cars so my word is nothing bla bla bla, Somethings I do not know, No one knows everything but guys like you who share there knowledge and others, is who make the Automotive industry have some kind of hope for the younger one`s like me and others coming up. Admitting you don`t know something and looking for help, If I was that mechanic I would be happy to get any assistance possible.
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you are a cool teacher. best to stay away from that car owner and “mechanic”. let them fix it themselves.
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LUIS, I have a comment if u allow me to say brother and that is YOU WILL BE AWESOME IN MY BOOK ALWAYS so do not feel bad about other peoples mentality and they know how to fix every thing but in realty they are only PART CHANGERS and that is all they know thanks for all urs videos and the time it takes to share them really appreciated. CHEEEEEERS FROM CANADA
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Very nice job! Happy to be here!
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Thank you so much. This video helped me a great deal to fix my own car for peanuts
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U right! Gear selector aka shifter assembly is the lever.
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Totally agree with you, Luis. Not worth wasting your time on clueless parts swappers unfamiliar even with basic terminology. As a side note, just for fairness' sake, Japanese manufacturers indeed tend to choose funny names for their parts and assemblies. Toyota part names and DTCs, for instance, do sometimes make little sense, don't they?. However, if an English person working for Honda calls "gear selector" on it, I think it is safe to assume he meant the lever assembly between the front seats. I also appreciate your fair way of treating these people, I must say you are very-very British about it.
"Very-very British "... lol
Learned it over the years...
Years back, I don't know if you have the patience to be that polite...🤣🤣🤣
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First off all I feel your frustration That guy needs to sub to your channel! my old man used to say 1 years experience but it’s 14 years old, Always amazes we how nieve some people are when it comes to diagnostics, I get from my my boss “it’s just some switches and sensors I’ve been doing this 25 years” (last ten in office )if he did a diag now his mind would be blown and wouldn’t have a clue, The whole I’ve been doing this 20 years yadda yadda seems to be a defence mechanism when you have them on the ropes Like you said always let your work do the talking,
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Great video 👍 I appreciate the video's and sharing knowledge.
The selector maybe worn out or selector may mean a selector fork inside the box I bet Honda knew what part needed sorting but the owner choked on the estimate of repair.ps don't touch that car!
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Luis if he knows what he is doing then why did he get you involved in the first place ? We all get customers like him unfortunately. As an Auto Electrician with over Thirty years experience can I just say you do some great work my friend keep it up.
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Would've been interesting to know how to test the i-shift gear selector to see if it's working.
Got an mk8 2007 Honda Civic with P0810 clutch operation problem, P19FF clutch friction coefficient learning value out of range (permanent codes) and brake switch fault, but forgot the code.
Only borrowed a snap on to read the codes as my cheap one couldn't read them.
When I bought it, it started and ran just fine. Then wouldn't go out of 0 into neutral to start. Then somehow got into neutral but wouldn't start. Found out the first inertia switch wasn't pushed down so fuel wasn't going to the injectors. Then it started and got it into gears somehow. Now it won't get into Neutral anymore.
I believe I should try and re-learn the learning value and change the brake switch, tho it does seem to turn on the brake lights.
Would it actually be a bad gear selector?
When I first got the car back down from the trailer, it worked fine but then died and wouldn't change gears, it was in automatic mode at that time.
Also, wanted to add. When looking in the engine bay, it seems like the actuator wants to move, but it cannot. That's when gear selector is put in Neutral mode.
Could be the gears actuator... like the one on the video... if you say it is trying to move... could be stuck or something... or gearbox..
Nothing like check also live data, and obviously dismantling and inspect...
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Good video. Bit of advice please. My Civic Type S 2008 manual is really hard to change gear and makes a clunk sound. What is the part dude that I require?
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If it is manual, either clutch system, either cylinders or clutch it self, of something internal in the gearbox... like synchronisation rings, or something along those lines...
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thank you for all the vids
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Hi Luis, Description of components on cars can vary from mechanic to mechanic, and even dealers will have different descriptions of components especially when ordering parts over the phone it can be a real problem (wrong parts ordered etc). I'm in the car trade my self and if there's any doubt i'll ask the parts person to email me a picture of the relevant components and then it's as simple as picking the corresponding numbers from the diagram and then everyone knows what's going on...
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Beautiful work. i wish you succesful career .forget about the guy a doesnt deserve.good luck
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When the gear does not change or gets stuck its the actuator. I paid £1800 to Honda for a reconditioned one (gear would get stuck in 2nd). The 2nd time I paid £320 to a guy who came to my car and fixed it outside on the drive. Each time the symptoms were fixed with replacing actuator seals, brushes and reprogramming - The reprogramming was crucial & wont work without it. I am told there are 3x actuator`s in the I-Shift.
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Nice and helpful video. I liked it
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I am with you..100%😃
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I stopped the video at 14 minutes to comment . I will watch till the end but Luis , c´mon . You did your job testing and performing maintenance on the actuators like you were asked to . You " know " the history of the car . Without the actual car in your possession you can´t fix it . Your job stopped at he14 minute mark . Edit . So I was partly right . You did the right thing not taking this car . I remember similar problems that I had when Ford came out with their " smart " alternator . I got called every bad name in the book because I told a " mechanic " that his alternator was good but he installed it on the car and it didn´t charge . When I told him that it was not an alternator problem hell broke loose . His client decided to buy a brand new alternator which didn´t solve the problem obviously and later that client wanted me to repair his car . HAHA . Sad for the client but I do not exist to be treated like dirt and neither do you .
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Could you tell me what size the carbon brushes it has?
I'm not sure if they are 6X6X10mm
Do you know something?
It was incredible finding your video, thank you!!!
Unfortunately I am not sure of the size...
Sorry...
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Awesome vid,just keep doing what your doing 😁.
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Could you at all help please , thanks
I'm about to change the clutch plate on my slipping I-shift
Where would I get hold of this HDS honda software to re-program?
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If you get the VCM interface, the software should come with it...
If you have a J2534 or other capable and compatible interface, a quick google search and you will find it...😉
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your are a cool guy .you did the right call.
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I’m thinking about getting a Honda Civic but I’m torn between the Ishift which has mixed opinions but apparently is a lot cheaper to repair if something goes wrong or a conventional automatic, any suggestions?
I never owned one, so can't really advise...
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Absolutely the dealership is right because if the lever or bushings are worn out then it won't be able to change the gear's correctly just like a normal manual I can't believe they didn't check that first
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No, No, No, No, if i'd been working as a professional mechanic on cars for 15+ years I am sure I would be a bit more savvy on how to diagnose a fault, or i'd at least take it somewhere that did. It sounds to me like this "customer" is trying it on, I would 100% avoid this person, who knows what bodge it scarper antics they have been up to on other cars. You are right to avoid, don't want another "my car radio isn't working since you touched it" knob head! Keep doing what you do, it helps more people than you know, I would be far happier to bring you the entire car and ask you to fix it than to take it to some dodgy garage, you take your time and diagnose and fix it correctly, others just throw parts at it and go "oh it doesn't work still". People need to get their heads out of their asses as you are one of the best I've ever seen at doing this job, and if they want to argue with you then just walk away, you don't need it!
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And I don't care how much you talk we are hear to listen to you and learn how electric stuff works and how to fix it
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Been there seen it had the T shirt! Half a story is no good to anyone! Personally I would have asked to look at the vehicle if only for my own satisfaction and the knowledge I would gain!
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I have question outside of this topic. It's about setting aftermarket car audio amp voltage(AC volts) at the speaker output wires. The amp is 1 channel(monoblock), i'm told to play a 50hz test tone and connect a multimeter at the amp speaker leads (the ones that go to subwoofer). i need to set the AC voltage at the wires(using the Gain knob) to 24.5 volts AC while playing the 50hz test tune.. The question is - do i need expensive RMS multimeter , or i can do this with my 20$ one? The sinewave is 50hz.
I would don't need nothing too fancy...
Set it to a bit lower, in case is not calibrated correctly...
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After 16:00 it was really exciting for me, please post more content about your customers :D :D :D
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@@LMAutoRepairs yeah you are doing the scientific section, but you lack the funny one, it is really gonna be comedy to be honest with you to watch those videos...
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True you know and you share,,,you the best thank you
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Hallo mein Freund ich habe ein Problem p19ff und p19fc was muss ich machen
I also smile inside if I help someone find an answer to a problem with my channel 🙂.
The clutch actuator gives loads of trouble on these. The brushes fail, similar to what you done in this video. This causes a no start condition & throws a P0810 fault code in transmission. I’d love if you checked it out on my channel & I will put up a link in the next comment 😉
I really enjoy your videos 🙏👍
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i know one thing that you are great and i totaly agree with you
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I’ve cooked sunday dinner for over 15 years and still no one wants to eat it😁. Time served does not equate to competence.
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Hi what is the parts that take on the gearchanges wear and tear
Mine goes into Neutral randomly
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Is the actuator... as per the video...
Obviously, consider as well a issue with the box itself... Once you established that everything else is good...
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Stay away from that car Luis, customers like that are just problems with legs. There are more than enough grateful customers to deal with, I learned a long time ago, some customers need sacking when they start to make life difficult unnecessarily...
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Hi, luis..today i have issues with my honda civic 06 with i shift, the gear stuck in 1st or reverse..but if i wait about 30 minutes the gear can go to neutral vice versa but somehow it only stay about half minutes, its makes me frustated. The honda main dealer cant solve the problem because honda with the "i shift" thing its not sold in my country, i live indonesia btw.. Luis, i need your help what i to do next..thank you before, best regard
Scan the car... and go from from there...
You can obviously visually check, see if there is anything that looks odd...
But other than that, you either scan it to have a better understanding of what might be wrong, or anything else will be pure guess work...
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@@LMAutoRepairs ok thank you Luis..
If he's that good whys he brought you the problem I think the gear selector is the actual mechanism the actuator moves on the gearbox I would call the gear change the gear lever
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Possibly...
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you would have fixed the honda and found the real fault easy my friend ,and thank you for the vids u do i learn lots ,if i thought the customer was an alright guy i would have fixed his car ,as for the other mechanic he is an idiot ,and i have met lots of them like that
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What i wanna know is why have you got CDs sticking out of your ceiling lights?
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Looks cool...lol
And helps reflect light..
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I have a honda jazz semi-automatic 2009 and the car has a problem with clutch Actuator as i been told but no one can fix it!! I don't know what to do?
If you know what is wrong, how no one can fix it?
Surely a decent garage can at least replace it...
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That's what I've been told, I don't know what the problem is!
I can't really help...
You just need someone to scan it, and proper diagnose...
Walk away Luis! You were right!!!
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I recently had a "discussion" with a used car salesman that was apparently an "experienced mechanic of over 30years", yet he didn't grasp how a clutch works, what it does or how its put together. According to this guy who i won't name (Adam from value cars York😅) you can tell if a clutch plate is completely worn out by putting the car in 5th gear, and the handbrake ON, that if you release the clutch that the car will stall!! The exact opposite of what a worn out clutch would do, a completely worn out clutch would just slip and smell and the engine would rev freely.
It just shows, some people don't want to understand what's happening or to learn, they just want to argue and be found "right" and you always get to the point where you have to realise either, A) theyre stupid or B) they think that you're stupid and so make up things and lie
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Hi luis, i have d same civic 2006 5D, what happen is if u try to engage d gear to R or D den N flashing i scanned car for code dis what i have U1403/U1405 i removed d actuator clutch clean d brushes even bentch test fix it back d same N flashing any help pls.
Check live data...
See if anything is out of parameters...
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@@LMAutoRepairs ok i will thanks
I have check the parameters i discoverd that abs / vsa are inactive could that b d issue, bcus currently i both abs/vsa/ handbtake light on, on d dashbord
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Could be related... tackle that issue and go from there...
Ok i will luis thanks
It’s headche. I open one I replace clutch brush. Now. I try to relearn. Gear motor move ones stop
Well after 15 years you would think ppl know how to diagnose faults jokers Louis they need to leave it to professional people like you and learn respect 👍
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Just wondering why u have not tested motor before opening
Would be opening them regardless...😊
But yes, could have done it...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks mate nice to see ur reply, appreciate your knowledge sharing all the best
Appreciate if u can share what lubricant used and if it is over or under will it cause any trouble
I usually just use normal multipurpose grease, or if contains plastic parts a silicone based grease...
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Hi bro,I appreciate u 100%
Cos,your level is OEM am your witness!
Maybe he is oe level,he didn't understanding the question what is the car asking for his mind or he didn't understanding the mining of live data
To look the tcm us of the dr,
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There is only one thing called Gear Selector, on a automatic transmission vehicle. But then again..... everything is about interpretation. I think you should let them fix the car on their own.
I kinda did...😋
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The problem the car has is the ignorant arrogance of the hack mechanic. The reason he attacked you is you were exposing his incompetence and the owner new it which is why he asked you to fix it.
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Best 👌 impressive thanks
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Thank nice content
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What a fail on the 15 year mechanic if he just mixed up the parts and started throwing parts at the car and just scaning the car for codes or live data should be enough to confirm gear selector operation. As you said without seeing the car its imposible to diagnose.
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Plus an entire gearbox... most likely used, but still...
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Keep quite don't argue I do want you want pay me make it clear it may not fix your problem and smile
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Nice video, but just a little request while recording don't handle sharp objects you could have easily hurt yourself. 🙏🙏
No worries...
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we belittled technicians of the new age are always in problems with the old style mechanics. they really have the experience that we don't have! though they cannot fix the new age systems yet! what an irony! better keep quiet than argue logarithms they wont comprehend...
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You should have just told the 'Mechanic' to lubricate the whole Actuator Assembly with EP 90 and shove it up his well experienced arse, then operate the Selector, vigorously, in order to display his extensive knowledge...
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How the f... u can be doctor far a way from the patient;)) ps. I had similar problem with smart fortwo ;)) and was few thing's in one go.. corrosion in plugs.. no grease on parts etc.. ;)
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Look at this for brushes extraction th-cam.com/video/yfhXq58d46M/w-d-xo.html.You use outer pins for motor testing if I saw it right?
Yes... that's correct...
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If he is so good, why wasn’t he able to fix it himself? We don’t know everything and need to be humble enough to admit it… don’t get defensive when the guy that you asked for help asks questions.. how else can you help? These people.. i will never understand..
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I would just ignore people like that I mean why buy a Honda but not get a manual gearbox those electro-mechanical gearboxes are junk Toyota's are the same that MMT is crap aswell
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@@LMAutoRepairs As much as I love them I'd never touch them unless they sell them dirt cheap
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its your problem that you work in the parts without having the full story
next time tell him bring the whole car not a piece of it
the whole job or nothing
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Can i have your address?
You got way too much pride and you think you know to much, you could have at least open the electronics and check for moisture or damaged components it's obvious you just wanted to make a quick buck. Also stop saying you're doing these videos for US when you post your patreon in every description and ask for support :)
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The electronics where assembled in way that were not meant to be serviced...
Opening them, most likely would result in further damage... also, once plugged into the car, was easy to see if was anything wrong with them... would be a waste of my time to disassemble everything when the check could be done in two minutes with the proper scanner...
As for the quick buck... you don't even know if I charged him... so refrain from talk about what you don't know...
As for Patreon... all the content published in there, will later be here on TH-cam...
If you don't want to support, wait.. it is that simple...
Lastly, I don't know everything, and have never claimed such thing... actually, I do this for the fun and learning...
Still, thank you for watching!
P.S. Yes, I take pride on what I do... can't see how can that be a negative thing... 🤷♂️
You make me laugh Moran by attacking some body like LUIS who is sharing his knowledge for free oh wait why u do not make some videos and sharing them with others like my self so i can learn from u looser.
This it normal the clutch worn out
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