I went from a BMW 4-Series to a Giulia Veloce over a year ago - almost this exact spec. My experience has been totally opposite to nearly everything you said (other than handling). The Hornet parts come from this car - not the other way around - though it sounds like you don’t like them regardless. I feel like the interior quality is as good or better than my 4-Series, which was a pretty high spec. In the end, it’s your review, so I get it but I’d encourage anyone who likes the way it looks to drive it for themselves. I loved my BMW, but this is a better car and better value in almost every way. Just sharing my real world experience.
@@briancolucci536 how fun is it to drive. I may get this model is it ok if it doesn’t have drive assist package and just has the sound package and the volencia package. Plus how fun is it to always drive in sport mode. Is it better then a bmw
As an owner of this vehicle, I have to join the chorus of voices in the comments blasting this review. It really seems he didnt do his homework on this one. The infotainment really isn't that bad, the auto start/stop can be turned off with the push of a button, and the engine is not shared with common Dodges. The Giulia was co-developed alongside Ferrari with the intention of making the best four door sports sedan in the world. Unless there's something wrong with his test car, unrefined isnt the word I would use to describe the driving experience. I spent the whole video thoroughly confouded by what he had to say about this excellent car.
Enough already! I've owned my Giulia for almost 3 yrs now and disagree with your driving assessment. This powertrain is NOT unrefined and works well as a daily driver. I find that I use those paddle shifters constantly to keep the engine in the rev band I like. If I had to do it over I'd buy it again. I drive on lousy Michigan roads and find the suspension plenty supple.
I've had a Guilia for just over 30 months now and I don't recognise this guys description of it at all, apart from agreeing with him about the fantastic handling. He didn't mention anything about the DNA settings, didn't know how to launch the car or how to turn off Start-Stop (which I always do). He did mention the Hornet (which I don't know too much about) but I suspect he is confusing the Guilia with the later Tonale. But if an Alfa doesn't rock your boat, just go get a BMW or a Merc, that's fine by me. I'm very happy with my lovely Lady in Red! 🙂
The parts bin you are referring to would be the fact that The Hornet is designed and built by. Wait for it! Alfa Romeo and the Hornet gets its parts from Alfa not the other way around as your comment implies. The Giulia had all the things you mentioned first ( 2016). Except it doesn’t use U connect.
Your probably the only person in the entire world that finds the engine not refined😮. I drove it in Italy and found it pretty damn good. I totally disagree with your review.
Agreed. Some seriously questionable bias, or perhaps just poor taste it seems. My buddy just bought one and loves it. As have most reviews since the car launched in 2017.
I am in Australia and have a 2023 Guilia Veloce. I drive in Sydney traffic and have NO problems with the gearbox, so dont understand your comment. Auto start stop can be turnex OFF, which i do. I get GREAT fuel consumption. The infotainment system is pretty easy to use, so dont know what your comment is about. Overall totally diagree with many of your comments.
Hello there! Very much disagree with everything you said except the styling . This car is not an appliance, it's a driver's car. It's not a luxury car, it's a sports sedan. The parts you referred to as dodge are mostly Alfa that trickled down to other fca//stelantis eventually.. Also you failed to mention the driving modes when you harped on unrefined transmission and engine which is NOT like the ones you find jin jeeps, similar but not the same. The lag is almost non existent in dynamic mode, probably you tried to accelerate in advanced efficiency, which is there for compliance reasons. My binnacle is not loose after 5 years and the one you show is obviously abused or broken by quasi journalist, weekend free loaders with no interest in reporting long term impressions, and more interested in getting quick review views on social media. Please do your research and stop misreporting facts just for sensationalism and quick buck/views.If you are considering this car for it's infotainment value, look into kia or Hyundai, very big screens ..,😢 Very poor review.
I was warned that making disrespectful comments could be removed when clicking to comment on this video. You really did do a bad review here. I like your Mav reviews to learn about that truck, but if I was you I’d make an apology video for this one. This car has the best engine, tranny and chassis in its class. Not even to mention the absolute steal it is on the used market.
A Giulia Veloce owner here. Have this after 2 BMWs (F-series). This car was made to compete with BMW 3-series (previous generation). Sitting in this felt right at home after BMW. Ergomonics are actually better for my taste than in the F-series BMW. Seats, sitting position and the controls are actually super comfortable, everything is easy to use. Build quality of some of the interior elements could be better but it's not that far off. Can't agree with what you said about the drivetrain at all - it's way better than BMW, the gear box is tuned perfectly to match the engine, it's alweays in the right gear and smooth, and I use it in the city primarily, a joy to live with, and better than BMW, the engine is actually more robust than what you get with a 2-liter BMW, the car feels lighter overall and more responsive than a similar BMW. The infotainment is the weak spot but it's not too bad, there is nothing complex about it, after BMW, the only true complaint is it's laggy. Ride comfort - it's down to the low profile runflat tires, but even then it's still not worse than that of a similar BMW.
The lack of insight and misinformation on this review is incredible… whiffed on this one bud. This is a drivers car with exceptional handling and weight balance. The transmission is superb! The ride quality is excellent if you’re cruising, or if you want to have a more spirited experience. Not sure which vehicle you drove.
"nasty, rough engine" - wow as a '23 veloce owner i found that remark curious. Poor transmission? - The Giulia is unbelievably smooth and well calibrated. I'll give you the infotainment system call - but as Chris Harris says, if you worry that stuff you're " nuts", certainly in the context of judging a proper drivers' car. Dear reader - the Veloce is very refined, powerful, and yes I've owned Audis and BMWs, and frankly would trade them for the refinement and charisma of this car.
They don't plan on improving the infotainment system because this platform is discontinued as of June. I own one these cars and you are wrong about a number of things. The most notable one is the power train. The engines inthe dodge products is a much more watered down version of these engines. The ALFA engines have forged parts. I hate some of these reviews at times because the people who review them don't have their facts in order. You are one of the few that actually bashed a car that has won best car of the year several times...but hey it's your opinion. ❤❤
Maybe you can try a cooking channel? So, my advise, buy a Chinese EV ! Take MG, you'll vain a roadster ... Absolutely, you did not do your homework, you do not understand the exceptional, original and disruptive magic you were driving ! @Alfaromeo, please spam Testdriven TV
You dont diss ALFA ROMEO and get away so easy...worst review! No likes for U! Bias or just dumb.. what ever, get your facts right, do your homework!!! Alfisti 4 Life ❤
What Stellantis?! This is Not a Tonale... this is a Marchionne product RIP to the former FIAT boss . Are you confusing this is a Tonale talking about the Dodge Hornet that is all ALFA except the logo's!
Great review. The Giulia still looks great after being around for around 6-7 years, but the platform is definitely showing it's age. What doesn't help is that before prices went crazy, one could pick up a 2017-2018 Giulia for about $20-$25k on the used market. The Quadrifoglio would be the best option to get with this car, but I've heard about how expensive the maintenance is on that car, so this would have to be the model to stick with. I imagine that getting an aftermarket tune will really fix the majority of issues that this motor and transmission face.
Kinda the automotive equivalent of dating someone strikingly beautiful who goes clubbing every night while you're trying to hold down a 9 to 5 job. Just different worlds. But she is certainly gorgeous.
Beautiful styling and that blue paint is stunning. That ZF transmission has been uncivilized since its introduction. The engine's throttle mapping is really off too... wonder if its trying to manage transmission shift shock. Excellent review as always, Sir! 😊
That's a very dramatic take on this cars infotainment. I daily drive one and it works perfectly. It does nothing to deter from my enjoyment of this vehicle. I bought it for the drive. =) I will completely agree with you on the backup camera. Its useless.
Oooof. I disagree with your assessment of this car. Regarding your launch, you have to left-foot brake to get a decent launch, and, once in 2nd, it's much more fun to use the paddles, which are not "toys" (very strange comment on your part) but the best paddles out there, huge, with a great feel. By the way you need to be in Dynamic Mode . These cars are a blast to drive, and aimed at people who LOVE to drive. The steering is second to none, very precise, with perfect feel, and the cars handle beautifully. So you've missed the point, and I'd almost say there's something missing in you, that you didn't even smile during the test drive. I had to turn it off. No offense, dude, but perhaps you need to find a new line of work.
Man it’s only a $55k car. 🤣. Can’t expect everything first class. Tesla uses a Mercedes shifter. The Hornet is a rebadged Alfa so similar parts makes sense. People buy Alfas for the driving experience, not gizmos.
This guy really knows nothing about cars. Stick to your Honda Civic/Accord or whatever mass produced boring, so called “reliable” car. Real auto enthusiasts and anyone who knows the history of motorsports all love this vehicle and respect it for what it is. A true Italian Sports sedan with soul! Look at the reviews across the board, wordwide. There is a reason this car has the highest customer satisfaction rating in its class!
@@pellehh4540 Most Internet comments are "junk", as they're typically based on little/no experience with the product. This appears to be the situation here.
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Had Giulia for 5 years now and it is beautiful and perfect to drive
I went from a BMW 4-Series to a Giulia Veloce over a year ago - almost this exact spec. My experience has been totally opposite to nearly everything you said (other than handling). The Hornet parts come from this car - not the other way around - though it sounds like you don’t like them regardless. I feel like the interior quality is as good or better than my 4-Series, which was a pretty high spec. In the end, it’s your review, so I get it but I’d encourage anyone who likes the way it looks to drive it for themselves. I loved my BMW, but this is a better car and better value in almost every way. Just sharing my real world experience.
@@briancolucci536 how fun is it to drive. I may get this model is it ok if it doesn’t have drive assist package and just has the sound package and the volencia package. Plus how fun is it to always drive in sport mode. Is it better then a bmw
As an owner of this vehicle, I have to join the chorus of voices in the comments blasting this review. It really seems he didnt do his homework on this one. The infotainment really isn't that bad, the auto start/stop can be turned off with the push of a button, and the engine is not shared with common Dodges. The Giulia was co-developed alongside Ferrari with the intention of making the best four door sports sedan in the world. Unless there's something wrong with his test car, unrefined isnt the word I would use to describe the driving experience. I spent the whole video thoroughly confouded by what he had to say about this excellent car.
totally agree - from a Veloce 23 owner.
Enough already! I've owned my Giulia for almost 3 yrs now and disagree with your driving assessment. This powertrain is NOT unrefined and works well as a daily driver. I find that I use those paddle shifters constantly to keep the engine in the rev band I like. If I had to do it over I'd buy it again. I drive on lousy Michigan roads and find the suspension plenty supple.
@@rlsedition I have a brand new 2024 best driving car in its class hands down...and the paddle shifters not to mention all the compliments!
@@theonetrader44 Agree - best driving car in its class! Too bad Alfa won't advertise so they could sell more units and attract more dealers.
I've had a Guilia for just over 30 months now and I don't recognise this guys description of it at all, apart from agreeing with him about the fantastic handling. He didn't mention anything about the DNA settings, didn't know how to launch the car or how to turn off Start-Stop (which I always do). He did mention the Hornet (which I don't know too much about) but I suspect he is confusing the Guilia with the later Tonale. But if an Alfa doesn't rock your boat, just go get a BMW or a Merc, that's fine by me. I'm very happy with my lovely Lady in Red! 🙂
I've had a Giulia for 2.5 years now, haven't found the infotainment too bad to use!
The parts bin you are referring to would be the fact that The Hornet is designed and built by. Wait for it! Alfa Romeo and the Hornet gets its parts from Alfa not the other way around as your comment implies. The Giulia had all the things you mentioned first ( 2016). Except it doesn’t use U connect.
Yes, this was one of several indications that he is an inept reviewer for this vehicle.
Your probably the only person in the entire world that finds the engine not refined😮. I drove it in Italy and found it pretty damn good. I totally disagree with your review.
Agreed. Some seriously questionable bias, or perhaps just poor taste it seems. My buddy just bought one and loves it. As have most reviews since the car launched in 2017.
I am in Australia and have a 2023 Guilia Veloce. I drive in Sydney traffic and have NO problems with the gearbox, so dont understand your comment. Auto start stop can be turnex OFF, which i do.
I get GREAT fuel consumption. The infotainment system is pretty easy to use, so dont know what your comment is about.
Overall totally diagree with many of your comments.
Hello there! Very much disagree with everything you said except the styling . This car is not an appliance, it's a driver's car. It's not a luxury car, it's a sports sedan. The parts you referred to as dodge are mostly Alfa that trickled down to other fca//stelantis eventually.. Also you failed to mention the driving modes when you harped on unrefined transmission and engine which is NOT like the ones you find jin jeeps, similar but not the same. The lag is almost non existent in dynamic mode, probably you tried to accelerate in advanced efficiency, which is there for compliance reasons. My binnacle is not loose after 5 years and the one you show is obviously abused or broken by quasi journalist, weekend free loaders with no interest in reporting long term impressions, and more interested in getting quick review views on social media. Please do your research and stop misreporting facts just for sensationalism and quick buck/views.If you are considering this car for it's infotainment value, look into kia or Hyundai, very big screens ..,😢 Very poor review.
Love those old fashion phone dial wheels designs, love the Alfa.
I was warned that making disrespectful comments could be removed when clicking to comment on this video.
You really did do a bad review here. I like your Mav reviews to learn about that truck, but if I was you I’d make an apology video for this one.
This car has the best engine, tranny and chassis in its class. Not even to mention the absolute steal it is on the used market.
Actually the Dodge Hornet is the parts bin car.... Not the Alfa... lol.
A Giulia Veloce owner here. Have this after 2 BMWs (F-series). This car was made to compete with BMW 3-series (previous generation). Sitting in this felt right at home after BMW. Ergomonics are actually better for my taste than in the F-series BMW. Seats, sitting position and the controls are actually super comfortable, everything is easy to use. Build quality of some of the interior elements could be better but it's not that far off. Can't agree with what you said about the drivetrain at all - it's way better than BMW, the gear box is tuned perfectly to match the engine, it's alweays in the right gear and smooth, and I use it in the city primarily, a joy to live with, and better than BMW, the engine is actually more robust than what you get with a 2-liter BMW, the car feels lighter overall and more responsive than a similar BMW. The infotainment is the weak spot but it's not too bad, there is nothing complex about it, after BMW, the only true complaint is it's laggy. Ride comfort - it's down to the low profile runflat tires, but even then it's still not worse than that of a similar BMW.
The lack of insight and misinformation on this review is incredible… whiffed on this one bud. This is a drivers car with exceptional handling and weight balance. The transmission is superb! The ride quality is excellent if you’re cruising, or if you want to have a more spirited experience. Not sure which vehicle you drove.
Sounds like someone is a butthurt owner
@@TestDrivenTV classy… good luck on the channel.
Bad review! You haven’t even talked or used the DNA drive modes ! Probably that’s why you had that delay/ lag when you were trying to launch the car !
Most of this review is plain wrong. He is right about the handling, it's brilliant. Rough around the edges - Wrong! Nice boots (?) It's great value...
Forza 💪🇮🇹💯💓 4EVER Alfa Romeo
"nasty, rough engine" - wow as a '23 veloce owner i found that remark curious. Poor transmission? - The Giulia is unbelievably smooth and well calibrated. I'll give you the infotainment system call - but as Chris Harris says, if you worry that stuff you're " nuts", certainly in the context of judging a proper drivers' car. Dear reader - the Veloce is very refined, powerful, and yes I've owned Audis and BMWs, and frankly would trade them for the refinement and charisma of this car.
They don't plan on improving the infotainment system because this platform is discontinued as of June. I own one these cars and you are wrong about a number of things. The most notable one is the power train. The engines inthe dodge products is a much more watered down version of these engines. The ALFA engines have forged parts. I hate some of these reviews at times because the people who review them don't have their facts in order. You are one of the few that actually bashed a car that has won best car of the year several times...but hey it's your opinion. ❤❤
Maybe you can try a cooking channel? So, my advise, buy a Chinese EV ! Take MG, you'll vain a roadster ... Absolutely, you did not do your homework, you do not understand the exceptional, original and disruptive magic you were driving ! @Alfaromeo, please spam Testdriven TV
You dont diss ALFA ROMEO and get away so easy...worst review! No likes for U! Bias or just dumb.. what ever, get your facts right, do your homework!!! Alfisti 4 Life ❤
Great review! I had long suspected that the Quadrifoglio was the only way to go with one of these, and this review kind of confirms that.
I disagree, as the Veloce offers most of what the QV has for $30k less.
What Stellantis?! This is Not a Tonale... this is a Marchionne product RIP to the former FIAT boss . Are you confusing this is a Tonale talking about the Dodge Hornet that is all ALFA except the logo's!
Great review. The Giulia still looks great after being around for around 6-7 years, but the platform is definitely showing it's age. What doesn't help is that before prices went crazy, one could pick up a 2017-2018 Giulia for about $20-$25k on the used market. The Quadrifoglio would be the best option to get with this car, but I've heard about how expensive the maintenance is on that car, so this would have to be the model to stick with. I imagine that getting an aftermarket tune will really fix the majority of issues that this motor and transmission face.
Velcro and foam tape on a model that has been out 5 years is really telling of Stellantis lack of commitment to continuous improvement.
Don't know what you are talking about. Owner of a 2019 and have not experienced anything that you described in this test drive review.
No idea what this guy is taking about. 2 Giulias over 7 years. Engine, gearbox, drive brilliant
Kinda the automotive equivalent of dating someone strikingly beautiful who goes clubbing every night while you're trying to hold down a 9 to 5 job. Just different worlds. But she is certainly gorgeous.
Real good comparison
BS. This car works fine as a daily driver.
@@rlsedition That's good to know actually, thanks. I was just having a little fun with Sam's take on the Giula.
Idk but when he was sitting inside the car, from the side profile he reminded of ex-mma fighter Chuck Liddel lol. I think it was the haircut
Beautiful styling and that blue paint is stunning. That ZF transmission has been uncivilized since its introduction. The engine's throttle mapping is really off too... wonder if its trying to manage transmission shift shock. Excellent review as always, Sir! 😊
That's a very dramatic take on this cars infotainment. I daily drive one and it works perfectly. It does nothing to deter from my enjoyment of this vehicle. I bought it for the drive. =) I will completely agree with you on the backup camera. Its useless.
Oooof. I disagree with your assessment of this car. Regarding your launch, you have to left-foot brake to get a decent launch, and, once in 2nd, it's much more fun to use the paddles, which are not "toys" (very strange comment on your part) but the best paddles out there, huge, with a great feel. By the way you need to be in Dynamic Mode . These cars are a blast to drive, and aimed at people who LOVE to drive. The steering is second to none, very precise, with perfect feel, and the cars handle beautifully. So you've missed the point, and I'd almost say there's something missing in you, that you didn't even smile during the test drive. I had to turn it off. No offense, dude, but perhaps you need to find a new line of work.
Man it’s only a $55k car. 🤣. Can’t expect everything first class. Tesla uses a Mercedes shifter. The Hornet is a rebadged Alfa so similar parts makes sense. People buy Alfas for the driving experience, not gizmos.
Dude... you should do your homework before making such a bad review. So much wrong informationen in it... 🙈🤦♂️
This guy really knows nothing about cars. Stick to your Honda Civic/Accord or whatever mass produced boring, so called “reliable” car. Real auto enthusiasts and anyone who knows the history of motorsports all love this vehicle and respect it for what it is. A true Italian Sports sedan with soul! Look at the reviews across the board, wordwide. There is a reason this car has the highest customer satisfaction rating in its class!
Junk !!
BS. Drive one and we'll talk.
U must be on Junk!
@@pellehh4540 Most Internet comments are "junk", as they're typically based on little/no experience with the product. This appears to be the situation here.
Seems So Wery Sad...Fake News as its best!