Excellent, practical review. I owned the Pocket 2, but its limitations frustrated me, so I gave it away. This one solves all of them. And thank you for finally solving the 32-bit question!! No one else I’ve seen dared to say it. 👍
@@Thegoldenchild415 I gave away two of my GoPros, too - plus a few other photography items. It gives me a lot of pleasure to help some of my viewers who've been so supportive of me over the last couple of years.
Pretty generous of you. I have Pocket 2 and also contemplating to get Pocket 3. I can still use P2 for simultaneous recording in different angles. I’m no pro but that’s what I see from other vloggers. They even have 6 cameras for one video recording. Pocket 3 is better I think as compared with Canon V10 for its gimbal features. V10 is shaky when you walk while recording.
One great thing to add-on about the new battery handle is: the pocket 3 will use the power from the battery handle first. Meaning you can technically plugin the handle, then unplug and charge the handle (with a powerbank maybe), then repeat to get 'infinite power' to continue shooting video until the memory card is full.
I see this as a bad, not futureproof and NOT sustainable system, as with modern headphones and their charging cases. The devices battery is harmed the most by always charging from like 95 to 100% and keeping there (while used...) and in general charging a battery with a battery (with a battery,....) is... nonsense. If there would be (easily user) replacable LiIon cells inside, why not, but this glued batteries in probably not possible to open cases... nope, not for me at all as a electrical engineer who love to replace, maintain, upgrade and repair his own devices for longer usability
@@harrison00xXx that is a very good point. I stopped buying laptops because of how fast the batteries go bust with 8-hours a day of heavy use (mostly video and audio work). It used to be that you could just take out the battery when doing desktop work, which honestly is at least 80% of what most of us do.
@@Herfinnur Funnily enough - At laptops i really liked this move towards integrated battery packs, at least when it was done properly as for example apple did with using ANY free space for another size of battery pack and combine all those packs into a single, huge >70 Wh battery in a compact notebook. Thats also a nice advantage to have on my 16" M1 Pro Macbook, 99Wh battery combined with efficient ARM hardware, i can run this notebook for 4-15 hours depending on the usecase. The main component which really drains the battery the fastest... display. With my 100Wh USB-C powerbank i can basically double the MacBooks runtime (never needed yet). But yeah, on the new M1 MacBooks, i would not be against a removable battery either since i dont care if the notebook lasts 10 or 8 hours, both is industry leading and "long enough".
@@Herfinnur And i guess you are coming from the windows world since you said we use the notebook 80% of the time on AC/desktop. Thats really true for all of my windows notebooks i ever had and still have such as my 17" HP Omen with RTX 2080. Except for one, a cheap Acer for school once, but this notebook was horrendous on battery: slow and lasting for 40-100 minutes.... A typical MacBook should be used more on battery than on AC/desktop. Still, some users have the MacBooks for real 24/7 on AC, thats really a shame to see such a device built for mobility and battery usage to get the battery destroyed with desktop/AC usage only. I personally have on my 16" M1 Pro, built beginning 2021 soon 400 charging cycles and a already slowly degrading battery at about 86-88% health, its used heavily both, on TV or desktop setup via AC or mobile usage either standalone or combined with iPad as 2nd screen. its like 25% TV, 25% desktop on AC and on battery on the go 50% usage. But as a MacBook user since 2009 (2009, 2010 and 2021 model) i have to say as well: We typically even try to avoid the charging brick to take with us, that was since ever the "magic" of MacBooks, they were usable fast on battery, and lasted much longer than windows notebooks.
Easily the most digestible review of cameras I've seen! Nicely showcased the differences between the two cameras - rather than just talking about specs - which made it really easy for me to see and hear what I would be getting. thank you!
Supplementary comment, Jake. Mine arrived this morning, so I went out and shot with it immediately. WOW, this camera is incredible! The dynamic range is amazing, the skin tones are REAL, the resolution is fabulous, and the ease of use makes me lament my R6 MKII’s myriad controls (which I used alongside the Pocket 3 today, plus the DJI Action 4). The wireless mic is great (32-bit, yay!!), and the in-body mics are sensational. This is my new go-to b-roll, in-car, and walk & talk camera.
@@JakeSloan So much better than I expected. I think I’ll be using this for most of my in-car, walk & talk, and b-roll footage from now on. It’s dynamic range in harsh, high-contrast conditions is better than the iPhone 14 Pro, and it displays none of that crazy skin toning or colour shifting. I’m completely in love with it.
Thanks Jake, for the review and comparison. Like I said yesterday in the stream I don't have a Pocket 3 yet but I have a Pocket 2. Takes good footage and excellent photos. I'm going to upgrade very soon. Tracking, charging quality, features, ect. Like you say in the video side by side you did the difference really is substantial. Thanks again Jake.
The only let down for me is the size of pocket 3. 😢 the reason why I want this is because I'm too shy to record video in public places, that's why I want something small, something doesn't attract too much attention and they don't see the huge screen. So I guess I will go for Pocket 2.
Great comparison Jake! The pocket 3 image quality looks way closer to micro Four Thirds than it has any right to for its size! Alaska looks beautiful. I live on the other side of the planet but maybe one day I’ll visit the state.
Excellent Review! I really like that you compared the two side by side so that I can see if the P3 is better than the P2 that I have been using. Now I know what the differences are and that the 3 is a much-needed improvement starting with eh 1 in. sensor.
Thanks for addressing the question of whether accessories for Pocket 2 worked with Pocket 3. Have watch maybe 10 reviews and yours is the only one to deal with this. Cheers. Subbed
This is a fringe case use, but I was wondering how it would fare as a webcam/livestream camera. Can it track you while using it as a webcam? I was wondering if it could follow me in the kitchen while making food or something while livestreaming :)
I did a live stream with this one but I wasn't able to get tracking to work with it, however someone told me you can, I just haven't been able to test it yet
I don't see a lot of people using these. Who are the few people doing walking videos holding the thing for more than half an hour? This will sit in a drawer and be on Ebay or Mercari after1 year for people who want to try it out.
@@mousepotatop9767 I see them being used everywhere. It's the perfect little setup for media companies, that has journalists, who is not used to tech and need a easy way to do interviews.
3:08 - i don't know about the sound,but I've noticed, that the Pocket 2 video looks too digital compared tovthe P3. The Pocket 3 video looks more like a real camera. Am I right or maybe I am wrong ? Any comments....
FYI Active track does work in webcam mode. If you double click the joystick it will start tracking in selfie mode or triple clock for front face mode. Not sure why you can’t click on the screen or why it doesn’t just auto start active track.
Hey, Jake. Great comparison video. The DJI Mic sounds better than the DJI Mic 2, no? Referring to 3:46. At 4:37, the quality from Pocket 2 seems more vibrant. Is that the case? Or I'm just looking at it wrong? Thanks!
Jake, I saw in another video that the DJI mic system (with trans and 2 receivers also works with the pocket 3. You just need to plug the receiver into the camera and you have two mics. It's available if you need it.
I see the Pocket 2 can receive a signal from two transmitters, can you buy a single dji mic2 transmitter separately, I cant see that option on their website.
looks ok. few years ago id go ahead and buy it but lately been kinda discouraged from video production just havent really gone anywhere for me lol focusing more on photography
I have used the Pocket 1 and 2, and one main issue I find is that while we are walking and recording, even though this is a gimbal with stabilization, the video still goes up and down with the walking momentum. However, when using the Action 4 action camera, that does not happen. So, what is the use of this product when the Osmo Action 4 can do everything better? For me personally, the size of this product was tempting since the Pocket 2 was very small, but now it's much bigger. So, I don't understand what position this product fits in.
Totally agree. My Gopro is bulletproof and small and durable. The only thing I use my Pocket 2 for is walking videos and night time, when the Gopro is not great. But actually, now, I just use my Samsung Ultra. Vertical reels are a few seconds long- I just pull out my cell phone because I already have it in my hand. These devices don't solve many problems, but just add to the plethora of devices we have.
So what happens if you turn the gimbal sideways? Doe it go into vertical mode like the original pocket? If so, how does it compare to the cropped vertical mode
Can you switch off blurring background option ? Does microphone from osmo 2 works with osmo 3 ? How do you zoom in/out ? how does the case look like ? Could you do test of tracking some fast moving objects ,to make sure is not loosing it.Does it have some new time laps features ? thanks
I fiddled with the Pocket 3 today. It's MUCH BIGGER in size. I am still considering. But hey the new extensions diconnect much easier, the old ones you have to really put some force to pull it out.
All the features are great but i'm curious about your post production workflow. The problem I have is shooting all this footage but just letting it sit when I travel I don't bring a laptop so I'm looking for a true mobile way to produce videos.
I travel a lot and use the iPad Pro 2022 in 11 inches (light and small) with LumaFusion for film editing and Photoshop Mobile for photos. This and a mini pro 3 drone, all this doesn’t take space in my backpack 👍🏻
One of the travel vloggers/vanlifers I watch has also said she only uses her phone (no iPad or laptop at all) with lumafusion to do her entire channel!
1, Can the mimo app controll the pocket 3 via a usbC cable? 2. Can the mimo app direct the camera via physically pointing the phone in the direction youd like to record?
I understand the mic connections are different for DJI Mic and DJI Mic2 if you were keeping them on board (attached) to the Osmo 2&3…. but Mic1 & Mic2 should still be able to pair wirelessly with any version of the Osmo Pocket correct?
about 1.5 hours before the battery dies or if you have it connected to external power for MUCH longer, I assume eventually it would shut down due to heat possibly depending on how hot it is where you are filming
Nice, thanks for the side by sides. So far I have yet to see enough to see the differences. I got the Pocket 1 and did not see any reason to upgrade. But the P3 looks interesting. But with that said, the 10bit is overrated as it always is if its not 4:2:2. All 10 bit does in 4:2:0 is reduce color banding.
Exactly. However, I found the normal color profile to be quite good and with just a slight amount of the saturation it looks pretty nice. The log footage be color graded very nicely to look however, you want.
Great Videos, I have mine ordered. Noticed some of your night shots were from Des Moines! The blue lit up building is visible out of my condo window. Also, question, is the 32bit recording also what is on the video track? Or is the only way to get the 32 bit audio is to access the microphone file after the fact?
Oh, that’s cool! I was there for 24 hours for work and loved every minute. The 32-bit audio is only accessible from the DJ mic. The camera audio is still recording at 24-bit.
ok, so even when you are using the mic with the camera, the audio recorded on the camera track is 24 bit? and thank your for your prompt reply!@@JakeSloan
Hi Jake, apologies as a second post. I know you can use the original DJI mics with the OP3, but you need to connect the receiver to the camera handle. Does this mean you can’t also then connect all to a tripod? It looks like the receiver may block the 1/4 screw…maybe I’m wrong.
Thanks for another informative review! Something I've wondered about is, maybe oddly (or maybe it's be mentioned somewhere before - sorry to be redundant, if so), you often wear a red jacket when outdoors, a color that I would think helps with a camera's subject tracking. Have you thought about wearing a more muted color that would be more challenging for a camera? (Maybe a camera isn't relying on color, though?) 👍
the camera relies on contrast for tracking, I tested it in pretty low light without a red jacket and it worked well. The red jacket is for a reason, but it's not tracking. its for scale when I am standing in landscapes using drones
I was looking at getting an insta360 link for a webcam but im wondering if I should get one of these dji pocket 2 or 3 instead. at least then i can take it out and use it to make videos. Is there a Native webcam mode with pocket 2? i know there is on the new pocket 3, but any advice would be great, thanks!
Thanks for the detailed comparison. were you able to compare the accompanying application for those cases when one wants to control the camera through the smartphone?
Thank you for the review ! I had the Pocket 1 long time ago, with the 3 do you still need all the magnetic filters who were really usefull before ? Or the pocket 3 + creator pack is large enough to start filming without any problems ?
Are the optional mics for the Action 4 interchangable with the pocket 3 ? And can you shoot verticle with the pocket 3 without the screen being turned to verticle. ?
You can film vertically without flipping the screen there’s an option in the quick menu. I’m not sure which microphones you’re referring to but any microphone that can help put audio via USB c will work with the pocket three.
I would definitely consider the pocket 3 creator combo. However if you plan to be in bad weather conditions (rain heavy snow fall etc) then consider the action 4
Not really about the 1inch sensor, its about the bigger pixels. This is first time when you have a sensor that makes sense, its 4k sensor and not some ridiculous 64MP sensor with tiny pixels.
Nice review... love the shots around the Independence Mine. That said I am wondering how the battery life will differ with the 3 vs the 2, as living here in Fairbanks things get a bit cooler so batteries don't last as long so that's always a big concern of mine.
It seems the out-of-focus background is very blurry / compressed (not a natural out-of-focus effect) vs the Pocket 2 and other cameras. Seems like a bug, not a feature.
@@JakeSloan Thanks, I appreciate the confirmation and of course I'll take your word for it, as you've seen the footage directly, but as it comes through on TH-cam it looks unnatural.
Why didn't DJI use the 1" sensor on the Action 4? Does the 1" sensor on the Pocket 3 have poor minimum-distance focus like the Action 3 and the Insta360 1-inch sensor version?
That’s exactly right and that’s why the pocket three has an auto focus background when a subject is close to the camera. But also ones designed for a very wide field of you like the action 4 has becomes much more difficult.
Thanks my question is how this compares to the Insta360 X3. My DJI pocket 2 was stolen in Aruba in December and since this was not out I replaced it with the X3. I have convinced myself that the x3 is just better. I can do what the Pocket 2 but also do the 360 video in 5K. I also was concerned about breaking the pocket 2... never happened but the only be was to me that I cold shoot and post no editing but with the x3 I have to reframe and edit before I post. Technically that is a benefit because you get everything and pick what you want later but it is an extra step. What I am trying to ask is what is the killer feature here that makes this worth me dropping another $750 no less carrying another camera if I am carrying the Iphone /Galaxy, the insta x3 for 360, the go2 for pov, and a dji drone. its bad enough the go pro has been relegated to a webcam. Is there something here has would make me want to slide this in my pocket compared to any of those? Sub $500 i would have impulse bought it and oh well but when it cost more than the insta x3 that doesn't make sense unless I'm missing something. Thanks
@@JakeSloan THANK YOU SOO MUCH. I have been asking this question and no one would answer. That was my take away, the sensor was the killer feature which would be good for low light which is not for my use case worth $750. I really appreciate the confirm.
I have Pocket 2 and X3. There is a lot of over lap with the cameras and at first I wasn’t sure if the pocket 2 still had a place for me but there are important differences. Even with the pocket 2 low light is MUCH better then the X3, and you can get high quality stabilized 4K 60 with pocket 2 as well which we can only dream of doing from reframed 360 video from consumer 360 cameras. It’s up to you and your use case but I think both have their advantages in different situations.
To sum it up differences --------------- X3 Pros: - Unique 360 video/3rd person view - Reframe in post/precise camera moves - Water Proof - Removable battery - tripod adapter built in X3 cons: - Low resolution/quality after reframing - Bad in Low light - Still kinda fragile with exposed lenses --------------------- Osmo Pocket series in general Pros - Gimbal stabilized 4K 60 video (4K 120 on pocket 3) - better in low light (even earlier pocket cameras), no weird blurring or stabilization artifacts in low light - (Pocket 3 only) 10 bit video for better color grading - (Pocket 3 only) some shallower depth of field with bigger sensor Pocket series Cons: - No reframe/ 360 - Not waterproof - Very delicate - non removable internal battery - relies heavily on accessories/ adapters like Tripod adapter and no wireless built in on earlier pockets
Hi Jake. Thanks for the great review. Quick question though. I wonder how I can connect my Rode wireless pro system to this pocket 3. Do I still need to purchase the creator kit?
thank you for the review! is DJI pocket 3 good for talking head and overhead videos for youtube? I cannot afford a lot of cameras. have a canon 70D yet it is too bulky, I need a more compact versatile camera. also can you use it for shooting dance videos with 2 people talking (they might stand beside each other or 1m away or so).
Nice review. One question, did they remove the tripod mount from the bottom of the Pocket 3? I really hope they didn't because that was one of the best features(for me at least) on the Pocket 2.
no you can't unless you are using one of the DJI Mic's (DJI MIC 2 or DJI MIC mini) since they connect directly to the pocket 3 with no need of a receiver
Do you still have to activate the camera with MIMO like you did with the 2, rather than just pulling it out of the box in a ready to shoot mode? Greetings from the UK.
is it body wearable like insta 360? can someone tell me the body wearable action camera like insta 360 and sjcam ? i need a camera which can be werable on cap , tshrits without ant strap
The only reason i would want this is because of the flip sxreen as most content seems ro be portrait rather than landscape based these days I heard the 2 has better audio?
not in my experience but I also live and work in a fairly cool environment. but I did do an hour long live stream with mine using the USB video out feature and it didn't over heat then either
Thanks so much, love the great detailed reviews! One thing I've not seen anyone touch on is with the pocket 2, I'm able to use the extension rod that has a locking cradle and the contacts that power the rod as well for all the functions of the pocket 2. it extends out quite a bit but the rod has a phone cradle at the handle and can use usbc or bluetooth so I can control via my phone as well as a monitor that is eye level and not just way up on the pocket 2 that is impossible to see or make adjustments. Being that the pocket 3 doesn't have anything except usbc, is that something that is just lost?
It does come with an adapter that moves the USB-C port to the back and gives you a 1/4 20 mount on the bottom, the battery handle does the same so you can mount it on any standard camera mounting system
Thanks, that was vert helpful, but I have to express my surprise at how poorly the 2 compared... I would not have thought that image quality would be something that DJI would have released... are you sure yours is operating properly?
Excellent, practical review. I owned the Pocket 2, but its limitations frustrated me, so I gave it away. This one solves all of them. And thank you for finally solving the 32-bit question!! No one else I’ve seen dared to say it. 👍
Great to hear I covered something helpful! Sorry about your Pocket 2 issues
Gave it away? My friend that's pretty fancy.
@@Thegoldenchild415 I gave away two of my GoPros, too - plus a few other photography items. It gives me a lot of pleasure to help some of my viewers who've been so supportive of me over the last couple of years.
Pretty generous of you. I have Pocket 2 and also contemplating to get Pocket 3. I can still use P2 for simultaneous recording in different angles. I’m no pro but that’s what I see from other vloggers. They even have 6 cameras for one video recording. Pocket 3 is better I think as compared with Canon V10 for its gimbal features. V10 is shaky when you walk while recording.
@@JuvsInTokyoLearnNShare Yes, I imagine two DJI Pocket cameras would be quite useful.
One great thing to add-on about the new battery handle is: the pocket 3 will use the power from the battery handle first. Meaning you can technically plugin the handle, then unplug and charge the handle (with a powerbank maybe), then repeat to get 'infinite power' to continue shooting video until the memory card is full.
That’s true!
I see this as a bad, not futureproof and NOT sustainable system, as with modern headphones and their charging cases.
The devices battery is harmed the most by always charging from like 95 to 100% and keeping there (while used...) and in general charging a battery with a battery (with a battery,....) is... nonsense.
If there would be (easily user) replacable LiIon cells inside, why not, but this glued batteries in probably not possible to open cases... nope, not for me at all as a electrical engineer who love to replace, maintain, upgrade and repair his own devices for longer usability
@@harrison00xXx that is a very good point. I stopped buying laptops because of how fast the batteries go bust with 8-hours a day of heavy use (mostly video and audio work). It used to be that you could just take out the battery when doing desktop work, which honestly is at least 80% of what most of us do.
@@Herfinnur Funnily enough - At laptops i really liked this move towards integrated battery packs, at least when it was done properly as for example apple did with using ANY free space for another size of battery pack and combine all those packs into a single, huge >70 Wh battery in a compact notebook.
Thats also a nice advantage to have on my 16" M1 Pro Macbook, 99Wh battery combined with efficient ARM hardware, i can run this notebook for 4-15 hours depending on the usecase. The main component which really drains the battery the fastest... display.
With my 100Wh USB-C powerbank i can basically double the MacBooks runtime (never needed yet).
But yeah, on the new M1 MacBooks, i would not be against a removable battery either since i dont care if the notebook lasts 10 or 8 hours, both is industry leading and "long enough".
@@Herfinnur And i guess you are coming from the windows world since you said we use the notebook 80% of the time on AC/desktop. Thats really true for all of my windows notebooks i ever had and still have such as my 17" HP Omen with RTX 2080. Except for one, a cheap Acer for school once, but this notebook was horrendous on battery: slow and lasting for 40-100 minutes....
A typical MacBook should be used more on battery than on AC/desktop. Still, some users have the MacBooks for real 24/7 on AC, thats really a shame to see such a device built for mobility and battery usage to get the battery destroyed with desktop/AC usage only.
I personally have on my 16" M1 Pro, built beginning 2021 soon 400 charging cycles and a already slowly degrading battery at about 86-88% health, its used heavily both, on TV or desktop setup via AC or mobile usage either standalone or combined with iPad as 2nd screen. its like 25% TV, 25% desktop on AC and on battery on the go 50% usage.
But as a MacBook user since 2009 (2009, 2010 and 2021 model) i have to say as well: We typically even try to avoid the charging brick to take with us, that was since ever the "magic" of MacBooks, they were usable fast on battery, and lasted much longer than windows notebooks.
Easily the most digestible review of cameras I've seen! Nicely showcased the differences between the two cameras - rather than just talking about specs - which made it really easy for me to see and hear what I would be getting. thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Even if I'm not interested in the product, I like to watch your videos to learn from you.
I appreciate that!
Supplementary comment, Jake. Mine arrived this morning, so I went out and shot with it immediately. WOW, this camera is incredible! The dynamic range is amazing, the skin tones are REAL, the resolution is fabulous, and the ease of use makes me lament my R6 MKII’s myriad controls (which I used alongside the Pocket 3 today, plus the DJI Action 4). The wireless mic is great (32-bit, yay!!), and the in-body mics are sensational. This is my new go-to b-roll, in-car, and walk & talk camera.
Right? It’s really really good. Way better than I thought it would be
@@JakeSloan So much better than I expected. I think I’ll be using this for most of my in-car, walk & talk, and b-roll footage from now on. It’s dynamic range in harsh, high-contrast conditions is better than the iPhone 14 Pro, and it displays none of that crazy skin toning or colour shifting. I’m completely in love with it.
The best comparison between 2 and 3 I have watched in these 2days. Kudos 🎉
thank you very much!
Thanks Jake, for the review and comparison. Like I said yesterday in the stream I don't have a Pocket 3 yet but I have a Pocket 2. Takes good footage and excellent photos. I'm going to upgrade very soon. Tracking, charging quality, features, ect. Like you say in the video side by side you did the difference really is substantial. Thanks again Jake.
Agreed and thank you very much
How long a pocket 2 battery takes when taking video
Was not expecting to see a fellow Alaskan doing this review - awesome video! Just subscribed.
Awesome! Thank you!
The only let down for me is the size of pocket 3. 😢 the reason why I want this is because I'm too shy to record video in public places, that's why I want something small, something doesn't attract too much attention and they don't see the huge screen. So I guess I will go for Pocket 2.
You can turn the screen to be vertical
Same reason I use pocket 2
the pocket 2 might be better for you then. or consider the insta 360 Go3 it's crazy small
Is there a trade in option? Like the 2 for the 3?
I don't believe there is
Great comparison Jake! The pocket 3 image quality looks way closer to micro Four Thirds than it has any right to for its size! Alaska looks beautiful. I live on the other side of the planet but maybe one day I’ll visit the state.
I hope you get the chance to!
Excellent Review! I really like that you compared the two side by side so that I can see if the P3 is better than the P2 that I have been using. Now I know what the differences are and that the 3 is a much-needed improvement starting with eh 1 in. sensor.
Glad it was helpful!
Extra size is nice…like you I found the 2 or 1 a bit too small. Nice improvement for,lower light too. Great video!
Thanks!
The larger screen and improved touch interface alone make it a worthy upgrade. Great comparison, thanks for sharing.
agree and thank you
Do the Pocket 3 use a sd card
Thanks for addressing the question of whether accessories for Pocket 2 worked with Pocket 3. Have watch maybe 10 reviews and yours is the only one to deal with this. Cheers. Subbed
Thanks and you’re welcome
This is a fringe case use, but I was wondering how it would fare as a webcam/livestream camera. Can it track you while using it as a webcam?
I was wondering if it could follow me in the kitchen while making food or something while livestreaming :)
I did a live stream with this one but I wasn't able to get tracking to work with it, however someone told me you can, I just haven't been able to test it yet
Thank you for the reply. I try and look more into it :)@@JakeSloan
I don't see a lot of people using these. Who are the few people doing walking videos holding the thing for more than half an hour? This will sit in a drawer and be on Ebay or Mercari after1 year for people who want to try it out.
@@mousepotatop9767 I see them being used everywhere. It's the perfect little setup for media companies, that has journalists, who is not used to tech and need a easy way to do interviews.
Is it possible to turn that cinematic blur off or is it on no matter what?
it is there if your subject is close to the lens and cannot be turned off
3:08 - i don't know about the sound,but I've noticed, that the Pocket 2 video looks too digital compared tovthe P3.
The Pocket 3 video looks more like a real camera.
Am I right or maybe I am wrong ?
Any comments....
you are correct!
FYI Active track does work in webcam mode. If you double click the joystick it will start tracking in selfie mode or triple clock for front face mode. Not sure why you can’t click on the screen or why it doesn’t just auto start active track.
brilliant tip Preston!!
I use the pocket 2 a lot for underwater filming. Is there an underwater case for the pocket 3 and what are the differences for the user?
There is no underwater case at the moment, but I hope that somebody create one
Hey, Jake. Great comparison video. The DJI Mic sounds better than the DJI Mic 2, no? Referring to 3:46. At 4:37, the quality from Pocket 2 seems more vibrant. Is that the case? Or I'm just looking at it wrong? Thanks!
It does sound surprisingly good
Thanks Jake! Very comprehensive comparison. Now I have to find the budget!
Glad it was helpful!
Does the P2 transmitter work with P3?
I cover that in the video
Jake, I saw in another video that the DJI mic system (with trans and 2 receivers also works with the pocket 3. You just need to plug the receiver into the camera and you have two mics. It's available if you need it.
That’s correct and why I said DJI mic was one of the ones I tried with the usb c port
Great vlog! Luv the details without being over the top.😊
Thanks so much! 😊
I see the Pocket 2 can receive a signal from two transmitters, can you buy a single dji mic2 transmitter separately, I cant see that option on their website.
Not yet. I believe that will be an option down the road once they know they have enough stock to sell them separately.
looks ok. few years ago id go ahead and buy it but lately been kinda discouraged from video production just havent really gone anywhere for me lol focusing more on photography
dang then definitely look for something that does better photos
Wow they look so different side by side! I’m wondering how it would compare to the Sony zv1m2.
I do want to do a comparison between the two!
I have used the Pocket 1 and 2, and one main issue I find is that while we are walking and recording, even though this is a gimbal with stabilization, the video still goes up and down with the walking momentum. However, when using the Action 4 action camera, that does not happen. So, what is the use of this product when the Osmo Action 4 can do everything better? For me personally, the size of this product was tempting since the Pocket 2 was very small, but now it's much bigger. So, I don't understand what position this product fits in.
yeah you still need to compensate for the up and down motion of walking
Totally agree. My Gopro is bulletproof and small and durable. The only thing I use my Pocket 2 for is walking videos and night time, when the Gopro is not great. But actually, now, I just use my Samsung Ultra. Vertical reels are a few seconds long- I just pull out my cell phone because I already have it in my hand. These devices don't solve many problems, but just add to the plethora of devices we have.
Other companies should take note of how upgrades ought to be done. This is an outstanding upgrade! CC: Apple.
agreed but also 3 years is an eternity in tech lol
from my surround PC speakers i actually heard the pocket 3 mic a bit louder, great comparison video and straight to the point.
Thank you!
Awesome video. I have the Pocket 2 and kind of frustrated with the quality of video. This answered all my questions. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
At 3:29 you said the "Pocket 2" and the new mike... I think you meant the Pocket 3?
most likely lol
So what happens if you turn the gimbal sideways? Doe it go into vertical mode like the original pocket? If so, how does it compare to the cropped vertical mode
it does, that way you get 4k vertical video instead of the 3k cropped video
There you go but it will not stabilize as well
Can you switch off blurring background option ? Does microphone from osmo 2 works with osmo 3 ? How do you zoom in/out ? how does the case look like ? Could you do test of tracking some fast moving objects ,to make sure is not loosing it.Does it have some new time laps features ? thanks
you cannot change physics so no you can't turn off the blurry background. The time-lapse features remain the same
I fiddled with the Pocket 3 today. It's MUCH BIGGER in size. I am still considering. But hey the new extensions diconnect much easier, the old ones you have to really put some force to pull it out.
agreed
another excellent review, Jake! I hope you enjoyed your stay in Des Moines!!🤘🏼
I did!
Background blur is nice but there's no apperture control to change this! Thank you for the video!
agreed, I wish they would put a variable aperture in future models
Always enjoy your content brother. Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
All the features are great but i'm curious about your post production workflow. The problem I have is shooting all this footage but just letting it sit when I travel I don't bring a laptop so I'm looking for a true mobile way to produce videos.
for this I did almost no editing (color grading etc) just clipped the video to the moments I wanted and it was good to go
I travel a lot and use the iPad Pro 2022 in 11 inches (light and small) with LumaFusion for film editing and Photoshop Mobile for photos. This and a mini pro 3 drone, all this doesn’t take space in my backpack 👍🏻
@@Lucky4Wheels thanks for the recommendation I've been leaning towards an ipad
One of the travel vloggers/vanlifers I watch has also said she only uses her phone (no iPad or laptop at all) with lumafusion to do her entire channel!
Was just at the Anchorage museum the other day, what a fine place. That shot of it was a nice comparison!
nice!
1, Can the mimo app controll the pocket 3 via a usbC cable?
2. Can the mimo app direct the camera via physically pointing the phone in the direction youd like to record?
no but the phone can connect wirelessly to the gimbal via the mimo app and you can control it that way
I understand the mic connections are different for DJI Mic and DJI Mic2 if you were keeping them on board (attached) to the Osmo 2&3…. but Mic1 & Mic2 should still be able to pair wirelessly with any version of the Osmo Pocket correct?
Nope the mic 2 pairs with it. The mic 1s must be used via USB-C
is the wide lens magnet as weak as pocket 2? does it pop. off as easily as it does with pocket 2?
no it's stronger but you will still need to be careful
wow at audio test wireless 3:51 pocket 2 sounds good to me.
the pocket 2 holds up!
Crazy, a fellow Alaskan TH-camr! You have quite a few more people in your tribe though haha I'm just getting started. Good review!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thankyou. How long can you continuously shoot for in 4k (assuming battery addition or USB connected external power)?
about 1.5 hours before the battery dies or if you have it connected to external power for MUCH longer, I assume eventually it would shut down due to heat possibly depending on how hot it is where you are filming
@@JakeSloan So useful to know - thanks!
Great video Jack. Is there a way to connect it to external monitor or iPad with or without the creator Kit?
not that I am aware of
Nice, thanks for the side by sides. So far I have yet to see enough to see the differences. I got the Pocket 1 and did not see any reason to upgrade. But the P3 looks interesting.
But with that said, the 10bit is overrated as it always is if its not 4:2:2. All 10 bit does in 4:2:0 is reduce color banding.
Exactly. However, I found the normal color profile to be quite good and with just a slight amount of the saturation it looks pretty nice. The log footage be color graded very nicely to look however, you want.
When holding a camera is it getting hot in your hands while filming 4k 60fps? Pocket 2 is getting hot for sure
The 3 gets warm but not hot like the 2 does
@@JakeSloan thank you
Great Videos, I have mine ordered. Noticed some of your night shots were from Des Moines! The blue lit up building is visible out of my condo window. Also, question, is the 32bit recording also what is on the video track? Or is the only way to get the 32 bit audio is to access the microphone file after the fact?
Oh, that’s cool! I was there for 24 hours for work and loved every minute. The 32-bit audio is only accessible from the DJ mic. The camera audio is still recording at 24-bit.
ok, so even when you are using the mic with the camera, the audio recorded on the camera track is 24 bit? and thank your for your prompt reply!@@JakeSloan
Hi Jake, apologies as a second post. I know you can use the original DJI mics with the OP3, but you need to connect the receiver to the camera handle. Does this mean you can’t also then connect all to a tripod? It looks like the receiver may block the 1/4 screw…maybe I’m wrong.
no the pocket 3 comes with a small handle that moves the USB-c port to the rear and allows the 1/4 20 mount on the bottom
Thanks for another informative review! Something I've wondered about is, maybe oddly (or maybe it's be mentioned somewhere before - sorry to be redundant, if so), you often wear a red jacket when outdoors, a color that I would think helps with a camera's subject tracking. Have you thought about wearing a more muted color that would be more challenging for a camera? (Maybe a camera isn't relying on color, though?) 👍
the camera relies on contrast for tracking, I tested it in pretty low light without a red jacket and it worked well. The red jacket is for a reason, but it's not tracking. its for scale when I am standing in landscapes using drones
Does pocket 3 works as a webcam for pc like the action 4????
yes it does
I was looking at getting an insta360 link for a webcam but im wondering if I should get one of these dji pocket 2 or 3 instead. at least then i can take it out and use it to make videos. Is there a Native webcam mode with pocket 2? i know there is on the new pocket 3, but any advice would be great, thanks!
I don’t know that there is with the pocket 2 but the pocket 3 does really well. I did most of a live stream with one
Thanks for the detailed comparison. were you able to compare the accompanying application for those cases when one wants to control the camera through the smartphone?
the application is the same (dji mimo) and so it works pretty much the same
pocket 3 and action 4, which one do you think is better as an all around travel/hiking vlog camera.
I also would be curious regarding Jake's answer. Are they redundant or complementary?
Video coming soon!
Action or Gopro is way more durable with ability to plop in extra batteries. These Pockets are fragile drone cameras on a gimbal.
Thank you for the review ! I had the Pocket 1 long time ago, with the 3 do you still need all the magnetic filters who were really usefull before ? Or the pocket 3 + creator pack is large enough to start filming without any problems ?
It’s enough to start filming as is (this video was filmed without any filters) but I would recommend nd filters for the best quality
Any idea if an underwater housing will become available? There doesn't seem to be any mention on the DJI site.
no idea would be cool though
@@JakeSloan Yeah, DJI made housings for the earlier pockets so I hope they do one for the Pocket 3.
What one would you suggest better for walking tour videos through new york london tokyo ect
definitely the pocket 3
Great video! Just ordered from DJI. The mic comes separate? Oh man! I didn’t see any other options? How can I pickup the mic now?
you'll need to get the creator combo to get the mic until they start selling it separately
Could you please share the different external mic’s you used and can you also show the set up of each one if ever?
I think I will make a video about it
Are the optional mics for the Action 4 interchangable with the pocket 3 ? And can you shoot verticle with the pocket 3 without the screen being turned to verticle. ?
You can film vertically without flipping the screen there’s an option in the quick menu. I’m not sure which microphones you’re referring to but any microphone that can help put audio via USB c will work with the pocket three.
Great video Jake! Really want this camera but I just got the insta go 3 and it’s been serving me well, but damn this is cool.
The go3 is such a fun little camera!
I'm wondering can you use this new DJI mic with other devices like for my A7IV or with my Osmo Action 3?
not yet but I feel DJI will be releasing a stand alone version soon
Excellent video, Cant wait to get one !!!!
Right on!
Hi. I'm looking for a good product for my travel vlogs that is not too high priced. What would you recommend?
I would definitely consider the pocket 3 creator combo. However if you plan to be in bad weather conditions (rain heavy snow fall etc) then consider the action 4
Would it work with the Wireless DJI mic kit (previously released?)
yes through USB-C
Not really about the 1inch sensor, its about the bigger pixels. This is first time when you have a sensor that makes sense, its 4k sensor and not some ridiculous 64MP sensor with tiny pixels.
True. The one inch sensor has more space and they went for larger pixels instead of high mp count.
Nice review... love the shots around the Independence Mine. That said I am wondering how the battery life will differ with the 3 vs the 2, as living here in Fairbanks things get a bit cooler so batteries don't last as long so that's always a big concern of mine.
the battery life on the pocket 3 is much better than the pocket 2 but in our cold weather it will definitely suffer
Outstanding review! I have a pocket 2 and am definitely looking into an upgrade.
Nice!
It seems the out-of-focus background is very blurry / compressed (not a natural out-of-focus effect) vs the Pocket 2 and other cameras. Seems like a bug, not a feature.
it is actually a natural out of focus bokeh, it's due to the sensor size and the f2 aperture
@@JakeSloan Thanks, I appreciate the confirmation and of course I'll take your word for it, as you've seen the footage directly, but as it comes through on TH-cam it looks unnatural.
Can you put everything in focus like in pocket 2? Bokeh is nice but for vlogging it would be nice to have everything in focus.
no you can't
@@JakeSloan that sucks it would be nice to have both options
@@JakeSloan Like in pocket 2 I mean.
hi i'm looking at those mount clips that wrap around the body. would those be cross-compatabile, or is the body size very different?
yes it is
This will be my first osmo. Does the tracking only track humans and faces. Could I use it to track my hands if I'm showing off jewelry or something
Not sure but it will track objects so it's very possible
Thank you!@@JakeSloan
Hi there, would you highly recommend the Osmo pocket 3? Compared to the pocket 2
I love the pocket 3 it's a pretty big upgrade from the 2
Why didn't DJI use the 1" sensor on the Action 4? Does the 1" sensor on the Pocket 3 have poor minimum-distance focus like the Action 3 and the Insta360 1-inch sensor version?
That’s exactly right and that’s why the pocket three has an auto focus background when a subject is close to the camera. But also ones designed for a very wide field of you like the action 4 has becomes much more difficult.
@@JakeSloan Sorry, not sure I understand you reply. What's exactly right?
Thanks my question is how this compares to the Insta360 X3. My DJI pocket 2 was stolen in Aruba in December and since this was not out I replaced it with the X3. I have convinced myself that the x3 is just better. I can do what the Pocket 2 but also do the 360 video in 5K. I also was concerned about breaking the pocket 2... never happened but the only be was to me that I cold shoot and post no editing but with the x3 I have to reframe and edit before I post. Technically that is a benefit because you get everything and pick what you want later but it is an extra step. What I am trying to ask is what is the killer feature here that makes this worth me dropping another $750 no less carrying another camera if I am carrying the Iphone /Galaxy, the insta x3 for 360, the go2 for pov, and a dji drone. its bad enough the go pro has been relegated to a webcam. Is there something here has would make me want to slide this in my pocket compared to any of those? Sub $500 i would have impulse bought it and oh well but when it cost more than the insta x3 that doesn't make sense unless I'm missing something. Thanks
I think with what you have already you don't need to get this as well, the x3 is fantastic. The only place this will beat that out is in lower light
@@JakeSloan THANK YOU SOO MUCH. I have been asking this question and no one would answer. That was my take away, the sensor was the killer feature which would be good for low light which is not for my use case worth $750. I really appreciate the confirm.
I have Pocket 2 and X3. There is a lot of over lap with the cameras and at first I wasn’t sure if the pocket 2 still had a place for me but there are important differences. Even with the pocket 2 low light is MUCH better then the X3, and you can get high quality stabilized 4K 60 with pocket 2 as well which we can only dream of doing from reframed 360 video from consumer 360 cameras. It’s up to you and your use case but I think both have their advantages in different situations.
To sum it up differences
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X3 Pros:
- Unique 360 video/3rd person view
- Reframe in post/precise camera moves
- Water Proof
- Removable battery
- tripod adapter built in
X3 cons:
- Low resolution/quality after reframing
- Bad in Low light
- Still kinda fragile with exposed lenses
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Osmo Pocket series in general
Pros
- Gimbal stabilized 4K 60 video (4K 120 on pocket 3)
- better in low light (even earlier pocket cameras), no weird blurring or stabilization artifacts in low light
- (Pocket 3 only) 10 bit video for better color grading
- (Pocket 3 only) some shallower depth of field with bigger sensor
Pocket series Cons:
- No reframe/ 360
- Not waterproof
- Very delicate
- non removable internal battery
- relies heavily on accessories/ adapters like Tripod adapter and no wireless built in on earlier pockets
@@E4S65 This is an awesome Explanation. Thank you so much.
Hi Jake. Thanks for the great review.
Quick question though.
I wonder how I can connect my Rode wireless pro system to this pocket 3.
Do I still need to purchase the creator kit?
no you can connect any mic through the usb-c port on the pocket 3
thank you for the review! is DJI pocket 3 good for talking head and overhead videos for youtube? I cannot afford a lot of cameras. have a canon 70D yet it is too bulky, I need a more compact versatile camera. also can you use it for shooting dance videos with 2 people talking (they might stand beside each other or 1m away or so).
It would be good for talking head and working with 2 people it would work for overhead but the gimbal might not like it
Thanks for this!
My pleasure!
The background blur on the pocket 3 is that permanent or can you disable it in settings?
it is physics so if you are closer to the camera there will be more blur farther away and it will be less or disappear completely
Nice review. One question, did they remove the tripod mount from the bottom of the Pocket 3? I really hope they didn't because that was one of the best features(for me at least) on the Pocket 2.
they did but you can add a small handle that has a 1/4 20 on it and moves the USB-c port to the rear
Hi, nice video, thanks. Is it possible to use the new pocket as web cam with the usb c connector?
yes it is! In fact if you watch my latest live stream I did exactly that
which cable did you use for the timcode, the saramonic SR C2001 is like looking for hens teeth here in the uk.
thats the one I used
So you can't charge and use ext mic at the same time?
no you can't unless you are using one of the DJI Mic's (DJI MIC 2 or DJI MIC mini) since they connect directly to the pocket 3 with no need of a receiver
Do you still have to activate the camera with MIMO like you did with the 2, rather than just pulling it out of the box in a ready to shoot mode? Greetings from the UK.
yes you do
Hi! the face tracking works only at 30FPS or can be used at 4K60 too?
I will check and see
4K60 as well
Have you mixed 2 and 3 in the video, because the video labelled 2 is much better, 3 being over-exposed with a blurred background?
no I have not
Hi Jake, thanks for the video, but one question, does the external battery charge the battery in de Pocket 3?
yes it does, but also when used together it will use power from the battery handle first then the pocket 3 internal battery
bigger is always better technically, just curious if I were to get the basic one, will the Dji wireless mic usable with?
yes it will you will just need to purchase it separately
How is that native vertical videos if it down samples from 4k to 3K? How much is it cropping from the image?
You can shoot in 1:1 mode which is 3073x3072 or 16:9 mode which is 1728x3072
@@JakeSloan 😳😳😇
Good comparison video Jake
Thank you Lynn
is it body wearable like insta 360? can someone tell me the body wearable action camera like insta 360 and sjcam ? i need a camera which can be werable on cap , tshrits without ant strap
It can be with the adapter they sell
The only reason i would want this is because of the flip sxreen as most content seems ro be portrait rather than landscape based these days
I heard the 2 has better audio?
I dont think the 2 does but other people do. I think it's largely personal taste
Will it record 1 file when you are recording for 30 min? Or will it split it into multiple files like the osmo pocket 1 did? That was annoying...1
due to limits of exfat file format you can only record up to 4gb in one file then it must be split
One gripe I’ve always had with my Pocket 2 was that it overheated super fast!!
Does it happen with Pocket 3?
not in my experience but I also live and work in a fairly cool environment. but I did do an hour long live stream with mine using the USB video out feature and it didn't over heat then either
Thanks so much, love the great detailed reviews! One thing I've not seen anyone touch on is with the pocket 2, I'm able to use the extension rod that has a locking cradle and the contacts that power the rod as well for all the functions of the pocket 2. it extends out quite a bit but the rod has a phone cradle at the handle and can use usbc or bluetooth so I can control via my phone as well as a monitor that is eye level and not just way up on the pocket 2 that is impossible to see or make adjustments. Being that the pocket 3 doesn't have anything except usbc, is that something that is just lost?
It does come with an adapter that moves the USB-C port to the back and gives you a 1/4 20 mount on the bottom, the battery handle does the same so you can mount it on any standard camera mounting system
How about video capture card, elgato or avermrdia. Is it possible to capture video?
there is no HDMI out so no, but you can stream via usb-c
Thanks, that was vert helpful, but I have to express my surprise at how poorly the 2 compared... I would not have thought that image quality would be something that DJI would have released... are you sure yours is operating properly?
I was pretty surprised