thats just the best idea i've heard in a bit to use iso WITH food Colouring that grabs the ethonol and after distilling its so easy to see !!! Thanks !!! Great Video !!!%
In my pursuit of running my diesel truck for cheaper and subsequent rabbit hole of black diesel, I learned you can distill old motor oil (often obtained for free) into white gas, diesel and even gasoline. Im still studying the proper method of extraction for the various fuels to get the most out of a gallon, but its essentially just a difference in temperature. Hope that info can be useful to you!
@BanterMaestro2-y9z seems difficult to find information on the process simplified enough for a layman like myself to fully comprehend. If you know of any resources, please let me know
When distilling its wise to take the jars you have collected and move them as far from the operation as possible just to be safe so if something happens you dont have extra fuel for the fire...
Wow thats super cool. Maybe use the nastolien to heatup water in a separate area and send the hot water through insulated pipes over to an insulated water jacketed chamber to heat up the white gasstill. Hahaha make it 1000 times more complicated. Maybe preheat the feed water from the hot side of the condensor with another copper heat exchanger. If you make it absurdly complicated you may not need the dont try this at home signs anymore. I have a whisperlite campstove that uses whitegas but they have different sized orifice jets so you can burn whitegas diesel or gasoline. The only downside with using those other fuels is your food and hands taste and smell like a toll booth. Distilling your own whitegass is truly impressive.
I use cooking oil in my version of Haz location double boiler, now it's "food grade", one of my heat exchangers is very close to yours. Good Job, now I have a new mission.
An induction cooker would be good to use, however, it won't work with that aluminum pot. They make a metal plate to go between them so that you could use that pot, but you don't get the efficiency or the speed of heat adjustment like using a pot that will work with it.
Good to know.. I'm already educated in distilling.."water".. And I'd never try this in my "water" still.. but this would be real easy to set up and do if you use alot of Colman fuel
I believe you can just use water to separate the ethanol vs the IPA and if the last bit is all the additives have you tried additives it to your vehicles gas and just have more additives
A couple of comments: It is best to have the cooling water in the condenser going in the opposite direction of your product stream allows for a closer approach temperature at the outlet (the approach temperature is the difference between the cooling water inlet temperature and the product outlet temperature); an easier way to remove the alcohol from the gasoline is to mix 1 part water with 3 parts (iirc) gasoline, shake well and then allow the water to settle out. All of the ethanol will now be in the water. You can verify the amount of ethanol removed by the volume increase of water phase. If you have access to inert welding gases (such as argon), putting an argon blanket into your still will help improve safety. Also having a cap on your receiving container to allow any vapors to vent off will be helpful. hth
@@brucekuda6711 Yes, I am aware of that, I was trying to explain why this is the preferred flow directions in a heat exchanger. Perhaps I could have worded my comment with a little bit more clarity.
I use my coleman stove with, unleaded, diesel, kerosene, alcohol, or propane, its very vesatile. Am I missing the importance of white gas, that its worth my trouble to make it myself? I mean maintenance is key, and you can maintain anything on that stove, so what is it were doing here?
I have a street lamp I built that uses a 316 style burner~~ I know ethanol free will work, but I dont like the additives, which over time can build up and effect brightness. My Street lamp uses 3.5 gallons in a week~~ this way I dont have to tear everything down to maintain a good burn,plus its fun to make your own white gas ! !!
cant post a picture but its a 1935 Pontiac Business coupe with a chevy 350, a 300 gallon tank in the trunk with a 4 inch dump valve and the tail lights have a cut off switch :-)
Im sure the most important part is removing all the modern additives. i wonder what the differences between 1980s and 2020s are. I know in winter they add a bunch of benzene to help with the low temperature and combustion. Ev
I didn't realize how lucky I am! Just recently, the Handy Stop near me started selling ethanol free gas, and we are in a fairly woke county in an entirely woke state.
Gasoline is pretty explosive the white gas is a lot tamer. They add a bunch of stuff to make it easier to achieve ignition especially in the cold winter season
Not to mention the up front cost of the pressure cooker, electric skillet, copper pipes, adapters, water pump, clear plastic tubing, high temp sealant, candy thermometer, etc. It would take years, perhaps decades of camping to use enough white gas to break even, not even factoring in the labor. It would be cheaper and easier to just buy a camp stove that runs directly on gasoline.
I guess it has never occurred to this gentleman that lithium lamps and solar rechargers are everywhere now, cheaper, brighter, safer. Using flammables for lighting sources is, well, absurd these days, to say nothing of the work, and time it takes to "make your own"...
Do you go over to the little old lady down the street and tell her she spends three months wasting her time knitting a sweater when she can go to Walmart and get one for $12.97?
@@cobre7717 False Analogy. Did you notice he speaks about "saving money"? He'd save a lot more money - and time - if he'd go lithium with a small solar charger. This is indisputable. But I can tell you that there are sewing machines that sell for 12,000 dollars and more, based on CNC technology, and they are in "lil ole ladies houses".
@@treefellonya he does restoration on bronze Victorian white gas street lights. He doesn't want a shitty 5 dollar lithium aa battery powered plastic solar yard light that after getting exposed in the sun for a month falls apart. The whitegas lantern makes an insane amount of light. You would have to spend a lot of money to come close with a battery powered lantern and then it take a huge amount of energy to keep it on. I have an awesome little flashlight. It takes tiny little 2.4amp hour battery cells. Its so bright that it burns holes in my pocket if it gets accidentally gets turned on. I know that new led can be bright. But its not going to last all night, its super focused beam, its new high-tech circuit board. Its great for working on cars and stuff but it is by no means a vintage streetlight. As for saving money. A gallon of gasoline was under 3 dollars a few days ago when I filled up. but a gallon of white gas is over 20 at the camping store. Also the camping store that sells it is a mom n pop store about an hour away. All the big brand chain stores only sell the new compressed butane canisters. So not even included in the base price of the gas.... just trying to find the stuff is a drive 2 counties away.
My grandpa used to have a gizmo that looked like that but he wasn't making Coleman fuel!🤣
hmmm let me guess was it sometime between 1920 and 1933??? hmmm
@@brucekuda6711 why yes it was! And he must been a pretty good at it because his presence was wanted all over the county around Birmingham Alabama.🤣
white lighning it would probably still run your camp gear my uncle ran his motorbike on it and drank it
@@brenttamatea7578 old farm tractors could be tuned to run on alcohol that was distilled on the farm.
Probably tasted just like Coleman Fuel though!
thats just the best idea i've heard in a bit to use iso WITH food Colouring that grabs the ethonol and after distilling its so easy to see !!! Thanks !!! Great Video !!!%
In my pursuit of running my diesel truck for cheaper and subsequent rabbit hole of black diesel, I learned you can distill old motor oil (often obtained for free) into white gas, diesel and even gasoline. Im still studying the proper method of extraction for the various fuels to get the most out of a gallon, but its essentially just a difference in temperature. Hope that info can be useful to you!
@BanterMaestro2-y9z seems difficult to find information on the process simplified enough for a layman like myself to fully comprehend. If you know of any resources, please let me know
I had always wondered what the difference between the two was and this explains it so clearly, visual is best in my experience 👏👏👏
Thanks Bruce. This is something I'd like to do in the future. I've watched a few videos and I like your setup!
When distilling its wise to take the jars you have collected and move them as far from the operation as possible just to be safe so if something happens you dont have extra fuel for the fire...
they were just there for illustration , but thanks
Wow thats super cool. Maybe use the nastolien to heatup water in a separate area and send the hot water through insulated pipes over to an insulated water jacketed chamber to heat up the white gasstill. Hahaha make it 1000 times more complicated. Maybe preheat the feed water from the hot side of the condensor with another copper heat exchanger. If you make it absurdly complicated you may not need the dont try this at home signs anymore.
I have a whisperlite campstove that uses whitegas but they have different sized orifice jets so you can burn whitegas diesel or gasoline. The only downside with using those other fuels is your food and hands taste and smell like a toll booth. Distilling your own whitegass is truly impressive.
problem with Nastolene burn is its sooty and a filthy burn !
I used to think Coleman Fuel was the cheap version of Zippo lighter fuel... Now I know the real cheap version! Thanks!
A couple of local gas stations sell ethanol free fuel here. It's 87 regular octane, best for boats, chainsaws, motorcycles anything with a carburetor.
Excellent information!
I use cooking oil in my version of Haz location double boiler, now it's "food grade", one of my heat exchangers is very close to yours. Good Job, now I have a new mission.
Thank you Bruce - always informative
Now you can do this with a mash and get some spirit of 76
Yer making me thirsty 😂
uh-- no comment on my other distilling skills~~ lol
I use unleaded gas in my stove or lantern. It was leaded gas that caused problems in the past.
Very interesting !
Amazing. Good work white gas is kinda pricey in my area
Cool stuff Bruce! Thanks!
An induction cooker would be good to use, however, it won't work with that aluminum pot. They make a metal plate to go between them so that you could use that pot, but you don't get the efficiency or the speed of heat adjustment like using a pot that will work with it.
Good to know.. I'm already educated in distilling.."water"..
And I'd never try this in my "water" still.. but this would be real easy to set up and do if you use alot of Colman fuel
HELL YEAH,,,,👍💯,I make my own gas ⛽,,,to
I believe you can just use water to separate the ethanol vs the IPA and if the last bit is all the additives have you tried additives it to your vehicles gas and just have more additives
Great video. I live in California and the politicians here love their power over Americans.
A couple of comments: It is best to have the cooling water in the condenser going in the opposite direction of your product stream allows for a closer approach temperature at the outlet (the approach temperature is the difference between the cooling water inlet temperature and the product outlet temperature); an easier way to remove the alcohol from the gasoline is to mix 1 part water with 3 parts (iirc) gasoline, shake well and then allow the water to settle out. All of the ethanol will now be in the water. You can verify the amount of ethanol removed by the volume increase of water phase.
If you have access to inert welding gases (such as argon), putting an argon blanket into your still will help improve safety.
Also having a cap on your receiving container to allow any vapors to vent off will be helpful.
hth
He is counter flowing his cooling water.
@@tombryant4518 Yes, I am aware of that. I was trying to give an explanation of why that is best.
@@paulkurilecz4209 Ah, gotcha.
I do have my coolant coming in at the bottom of the condenser~ exits at the top!
@@brucekuda6711 Yes, I am aware of that, I was trying to explain why this is the preferred flow directions in a heat exchanger. Perhaps I could have worded my comment with a little bit more clarity.
That’s so cool brother!
I use my coleman stove with, unleaded, diesel, kerosene, alcohol, or propane, its very vesatile. Am I missing the importance of white gas, that its worth my trouble to make it myself? I mean maintenance is key, and you can maintain anything on that stove, so what is it were doing here?
I have a street lamp I built that uses a 316 style burner~~ I know ethanol free will work, but I dont like the additives, which over time can build up and effect brightness. My Street lamp uses 3.5 gallons in a week~~ this way I dont have to tear everything down to maintain a good burn,plus its fun to make your own white gas ! !!
Why not just get a duel fuel lantern. Or am i missing something
yes you are!! I have tons of vintage lanterns and lamps plus my Street Lamp is Coleman based and runs on CF!!
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Suggest a tripod for filming.
Hows about a pic of the hotrod you use to transport your shine
cant post a picture but its a 1935 Pontiac Business coupe with a chevy 350, a 300 gallon tank in the trunk with a 4 inch dump valve and the tail lights have a cut off switch :-)
Lol! That sounds like it'll get the job done
What would happen if you distilled used motor oil?
I think the temp required to distill motor oil would be significantly higher
Awsome
subscribed. Thanks!
Lol. Bruce's refinery
To begin with, regular gas is white gas. We no longer have orange gas like the old days. In the 80's I was using pump gas in my Coleman stove
Im sure the most important part is removing all the modern additives. i wonder what the differences between 1980s and 2020s are. I know in winter they add a bunch of benzene to help with the low temperature and combustion. Ev
Why not just wash the ethanol out with water?
Much cheaper and more efficient because it doesn't need any heat.
No not gonna blow my face off trying to save a couple bucks …thanks have fun stay safe.
Mini refinery
I didn't realize how lucky I am!
Just recently, the Handy Stop near me started selling ethanol free gas, and we are in a fairly woke county in an entirely woke state.
0:40 You made the board :00
just use the gasoline...
Exactly.
Gasoline is pretty explosive the white gas is a lot tamer. They add a bunch of stuff to make it easier to achieve ignition especially in the cold winter season
@@cobre7717 ha wut? rethink that a minute are 4
@@northmanlogging2769 you need to learn how to use complete sentences. I have no idea what you are even trying to say.
ok pretty sure im not the one with comprehension issues.
Drip gas.
Nastoline lol
Uh, isn't your time worth anything?
Not to mention the up front cost of the pressure cooker, electric skillet, copper pipes, adapters, water pump, clear plastic tubing, high temp sealant, candy thermometer, etc. It would take years, perhaps decades of camping to use enough white gas to break even, not even factoring in the labor. It would be cheaper and easier to just buy a camp stove that runs directly on gasoline.
I guess it has never occurred to this gentleman that lithium lamps and solar rechargers are everywhere now, cheaper, brighter, safer. Using flammables for lighting sources is, well, absurd these days, to say nothing of the work, and time it takes to "make your own"...
Do you go over to the little old lady down the street and tell her she spends three months wasting her time knitting a sweater when she can go to Walmart and get one for $12.97?
@@cobre7717 False Analogy. Did you notice he speaks about "saving money"? He'd save a lot more money - and time - if he'd go lithium with a small solar charger. This is indisputable. But I can tell you that there are sewing machines that sell for 12,000 dollars and more, based on CNC technology, and they are in "lil ole ladies houses".
@@treefellonya he does restoration on bronze Victorian white gas street lights. He doesn't want a shitty 5 dollar lithium aa battery powered plastic solar yard light that after getting exposed in the sun for a month falls apart. The whitegas lantern makes an insane amount of light. You would have to spend a lot of money to come close with a battery powered lantern and then it take a huge amount of energy to keep it on. I have an awesome little flashlight. It takes tiny little 2.4amp hour battery cells. Its so bright that it burns holes in my pocket if it gets accidentally gets turned on. I know that new led can be bright. But its not going to last all night, its super focused beam, its new high-tech circuit board. Its great for working on cars and stuff but it is by no means a vintage streetlight.
As for saving money. A gallon of gasoline was under 3 dollars a few days ago when I filled up. but a gallon of white gas is over 20 at the camping store. Also the camping store that sells it is a mom n pop store about an hour away. All the big brand chain stores only sell the new compressed butane canisters. So not even included in the base price of the gas.... just trying to find the stuff is a drive 2 counties away.
thanks for you input, but I make my own--and I didnt wear a mask during the covid scare !
@@brucekuda6711 You may not have been wearing a mask, but you definitely were sniffing what you are making.