Why bother? All you do is talk trash when it comes to chinese companies. Then you'll make a video comparing it to sram or shimano's electric groupset 😂
@@bsbbernal Pedantic, but yeah, it is a "partial" groupset without a chainset and chain. This is important because once you factor in all the additional cost you are left thinking, shall I just pay an extra £100 for a Shimano GRX. Which is exactly what I'm going to do.
The issues with Sensah regarding shifting are endless but the best thing to do is forget about it because it gets better by the use. I like the solution for the front derailleur using spacers but to be honest I changed my FD from Sensah to Shimano because of the trimming and now it is perfect. I feel it's time to jump to hydraulics so I'm going to try a Chinese frame for the first time and this new Sensah group makes some sense of course if the price is right 😂 Thanks for the video Luke.🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
They said the Sensah group took a very small amount of inspiration (nothing copied just inspired lol), but if you've used Sram Red 22 before, you wouldn't be surprised with the Sensah's shifting lol. Weirdly enough I've gotten mine to shift perfectly, so good in fact I'm afraid to change anything up.
The issue with FD can also be found on Shimano FD, it's just isn't as obvious due to additional plastic layer on the inner cage. Have seen many plastic layers suffer from heavy wear.
@@dan_lazaro we're in the same spot. I'm satisfied with the way my Sensah Empire group does the job . I'll experiment with a new group probably the one in the video but for the price Sensah is totally reliable
I'm seeing entry level kids' and adult sports store mountain bikes coming with LTWOO groupsets here in Norway these days, so I'm guessing it's only a matter of time before Sensah shows up as well. Exciting times for sure.
Your statement nailed it. Competition is good for consumers. I am not sure I would put this on my best bikes but the headline item is that it is $300. I have a feeling that spares would be hard to come by (replacement hoods, new rear derailleur only in case you crash)
Hoods and derailleurs for their other models are listed on the Sensah Ali store, these will surely follow. After experience with Ultegra/105 (good), L-twoo GRT (meh) and Sensah Phi (good), Sensah/Sentyeh is already a quality brand, let's hope they keep on getting it right.
I love the Sensah shifting with just a single lever for everything...for me it's a better system than LTwoo but also better than Shimano and SRAM. As for having to push the lever a long way for a double shift, just get into the habit of pushing the lever blade further up towards the hoods for less hand reach. A smart move for Sensah might be to bring out hydraulic versions of their Shimano-compatible Team Pro (105) and Quantum (Tiagra) levers and ship them with calipers.
[Make sure that shifters match the gears they'll be shifting the chain on] [The only criteria to consider when selecting derailleurs is their capacity and their mounting style. Rear derailleurs especially are dumb and will always obey the shifters running them unless the Derailleur is not mechanically sound.] These two golden rules of putting bicycle drivetrains together is one I've established for myself after numerous in-depth studies and have grown to live by. Thanks again for your efforts on these expository topics!
Hi Luke. Stumbled across your channel yesterday. This was the first video I watched, and I subscribed today. First off, well done on what you have achieved in 2 years with your channel. (As a fellow Siroko Ambassador who hasn't done anywhere near as much I am impressed with your very professional product placement and videos). For me, it's a hobby and will Never ever replace my day job. Anyway, back to topic, it's interesting to hear about this new groups from a smaller company than the likes of Sram or Shimano etc. I will certainly stay tuned. Thanks Luke for your content. 🥖🥖🥖🥖
Ive been using the Sensah Empire 12S mechanical for about 1.5yrs. Absolutely nothing to complain about on my end - even with sub-optimal internal routing. Then again, i am part of the big hand club. Great content, as always. 🥖🥐
I remember how excited you were for the first time you were sponsored by siroko, If i recall right they were your first? maybe second, nice that they are still working with you.
Luke! Just ordered. Crossing my fingers of the quality. So far I've been using Sensah Empire Shifters for 2 years, matched it with Sram Force 22 RD and FD, no issues at all. I will match the HRD with these. Wish me luck!
Thank you for all your hard work. Sounds like a great group set. I love my Empire set. I have never missed a shift, front or rear. Took awhile to get the front perfect, but now it works a good as my Dura Ace 9000. Only thing I would like to see changed ,is a shorter up shift throw. Short rides it is not a problem , but after 3 hrs it gets annoying.🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥐🥐🥐🥐🥐
I just used your rubberized plastic hack for my seatpost on my Trifox X16 build. It seems to work so far, but I haven't finished the build yet. Also I found that if you want to run 12 speed on an X16, you will need a thin washer between the drop out and drive side rear axle, otherwise the cassette binds against the frame when you torque the axle down. I'm still documenting my build on my channel. Looking forward to the X18 build. Thank you Luke.
🥖🥖🥖 I love your content Trace. Keep them coming, and congrats on becoming a full time influencer!! Cant wait for the trifox frameset review, There were some negative reviews on Trifox so im curious to see your take.
yeah, the top cap really looks like 'cheap plastic' and it kinda differs from the rest of the sti's, which looks good. I don't think it'd be a high cost to Sensah to use a better-looking plastic, and could definitely change the perception. Nevertheless, not the main point, which is that Sensah is coming strong with a nice hydro groupset, affordable AND light! That's really good. I'm studying for a build next year, so will keep that on my radar.
Sensah needs to also convert their Shimano compatible shifters into hydraulic. I got so used to using the Team Pro carbon shifters on my spare road bike, I ended up replacing my Shimano shifters on my main road bike as well! The carbon Team Pro shifters work like butter on my Shimano front/rear derailleurs. At least for mechanical shifting, Sensah one lever shifting/braking is much slicker than LTwoo, not to mention accessing the LTwoo shifter clamp bolt is a big PITA. It's near impossible to take off the Ltwoo rubber hoods. Anyways, Great video as usual! 🥖🥖🥖
I was always somewhat suspicious about Luke’s opinions but I spied the sneaky box of gochujang in the corner which has now totally convinced me he is a man of great tastes.
I have completely given up on frames, wheels, handlebars, etc from established brands, but so far I have at least kept the groupsets on my bikes genuine Shimano (105 R7020 and Ultegra Di2 R8170). I still don't feel that the mechanical Chinese groupsets are polished enough to invest some money, time and efford in, but I am seriously considering the L-Twoo eRX as a replacement for my 105 R7020... 🥖🥖🥖
I work in the bicycle industry, I've become tired of the prices of modern road parts, even at wholesale the prices are insane. I really want to try this group.
Caliper cap: I wonder if the caliper cap is reverse threaded? Or are they maybe like Hope, where you have to get the piston out first, and then the cap screws down and through, and then out of the pad area? Also, regarding the previous calipers 'blocking' when the hose threading is inserted too far; I think there's meant to be a washer or spacer around the end of the threaded section. This would stop the hard metal hex end from crushing up against the softer caliper body inadvertently.
I actually prefer sensah rear shifting over Shimano, but the front one is just not nearly as good. Single blade lever also feel nicer overall. Just wish the hood is a little smaller for the HRD.
@@belverticale by long armed Tiagra which one do you mean? I believe different gens of Tiagra have different cable pull even for the FD if I'm not mistaken.
@@charliewhiskey8440 the most recent version - 4700 series. Or you could use a 105 7000 series front derailleur with the different toggle design. front derailleurs are cheap compared with rear derailleurs, shifters or cranks so I'd really recommend switching out the Sensah one.
Great vid as usual Luke, that poor bike has had more identity changes than ive had hot dinners! Groupset looks good so far! When are we going to see "Mrs Luke" assisting with video presentation? Would add another dimension to your productions! Seen it done on another channel. 😁😁😁 best wishes 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖😂
Mine still works great since September last year, almost 10,000 kilometers. You have to have the right conversion plug to bleed flawlessly. Paired this with Sram 22 RD ang FD, running on the 11 speed version. Any update, Luke?
I have Sora r3000 2x9 on my bike, the shifting is bomb proof. No issues ever, even when using both at the same time. I never wish for smaller steps, just a lighter crank arm and cassette. I really don't think 2x12 is worth the fiddle.
Sensah FD does not have a cable housing end stopper. If you are going full cable housing from the lever all the way to FD, 10:45 it seems the FD housing end is not fixed in podition.
AWESOME video as usual! Wonder if you had thought of making a "Luke recommends!" video of a whole setup for say $500, $1000, $1500 and $2000.....thoughts?!?! 🥖🥖🥖🥖
Awesome as usual Luke :) ... Love my Sensah SRX pro on the gravel bike, almost as much as my Shimano GRX on the other gravel bike ! ..... any idea if they plan to do a 1x group set for gravel etc ? ... cheers and keep em coming
I have the 12 speed cable ones with about 3 thousand miles, only want to upgrade because hydro brakes are better. And mine do shift so smooth under power. Took 2 months to get and came in a box that didn't have corners on it anymore.
My tandem works really well with those ipro calipers, i had to cnc a piece to use ltwoo calipers then just wasnt enought so i had changed to ipro. Not sure that "braking performace" is really about the sensah groupset.
Hy, and congrats for this film! Pretty good news, weight and reliability-wise. Glad to hear the reassuring news about braking. 🥖🥨🥐🥖🥐🥨🥖🥐 I'm coming with my standard questions: - minimum cog this system works with? Will it work with an 10teeth smallest cog? - maximum cog this system works with? Will it shift a 33 or 36 cassette? It's worth mentioning these aspects :)
Question: Why are you running your brakes backwards (left=front / US style) considering your Britishness? For me, I would end up over the bars more often than ideal. Cheers :)
Hate to say it but Ltwoo really has sensah beat on this one bruh. Was kinda hoping since they took longer to release they'd make atleast as decent design for their hydraulic groupset.
I'm not defending Sensah, and what you say is probably the case now, but the production version of the groupset is still to be released. I'm just happy there is actual groupset competition, and quality should get better over time. That's my hope anyway.
DO NOT BOTHER BUYING FROM THIS COMPANY... I made the choice to go with a 11x2 groupset which this channel recommended and I have had nothing but trouble 1500km in...cracked hanger cage, jelly metal hanger bolt...excessive wearing on both levers ( Sensah replaced the right lever which then had a piece of plastic to stop the metal wearing, the plastic broke after about 100km) Sensah customer service told me to reorder the defective product...when I said I refused to pay for a defective product they said "don't buy it then" 😅...zero help... I'll never make this mistake again...
Luke, I watch your videos regularly and love your entertaining and informative style. Recently I was hit by a car while out on my bike. I sustained fairly minor injuries but my bike is a bit worse for wear. While the frame seems intact my rear derailer and left side gear/brake levers are not servicable. I have a 2003 Trek 5500 w/Dura Ace 10 speed groupset and was wondering if you had a budget friendly alternative you could recommend.
If you're looking for a new option, the Sensah Phi shifters are a direct replacement for the old Shimano 10-speed levers. However, if you live in an area with an active second hand bicycle parts market, it's generally pretty easy to find the Shimano 10-speed levers pretty cheaply. For rear derailleurs, if you're not going second-hand then the Sora shifter is the highest level replacement that is compatible (the current level rear derailleurs for Tiagra and up have a different pull ratio - meaning that they'll move a different distance per mm of cable pulled through the shifter). Alternatively, if you want to use a wide-range cassette (11-32 and up), you can use a Shimano 8 or 9 speed MTB rear derailleur like Shimano Alivio.
Why they designed that large screw on the back of caliper body? It is only possible place of fluid leak. Shimano calipers don’t have that large hole with screw plug.
Hi Luke , concerning hood size etc , can you do a side by side comparison of the new shifters compared to the SRX pro levers, just to get a better idea of the size please .... Thanks
When you say the shifters are large, how do they conpare to the larger 1st generation of shimano hydraulic levers (the non-groupset versions)? Bigger than those?
🥖 Dude, any chance you can share some tips on bleeding these brake calipers please, or point me in the rite direction ? Without the bleed port screw that’s on Shimano I’m struggling to seal up without getting air bubbles 😬
Yeah it can be quite tough tbh. The only real advice I can give is to be quite quick getting the screw back in. Thinking about it, the easiest way to avoid bubbles might be to bleed it, and seal up the shifter port first. Then once that's done, you could lay the bike down on its side before removing the syringe, and trying to seal the caliper bolt. With the bike horizontal, the oil probably won't leak out, and you can take a bit more time getting the screw back in without loads of air getting in. I haven't tried it this way, but it should work in theory. Anyway good luck, hope that helps 😊
Thanks for getting back to me so soon. I’ll have a go a your suggestion. I was kind of hoping you had a quick fix/easy hack.. Thanks again, keep the shows coming 😉🥖
sensah hydraulic shifters! wow i've been waiting for this so long! anyway do you think this shifters are compatible with shimano brakes? honestly i love that kind of mixture 😊
Hi Luke. I got mine and it's been 5months or 5k+ kilometers with me. Shifting is great, breaking aswell. But I utterly destroyed the rubber hoods when I had to adjust something and needed to remove the right side hoods. How can I get my hands on for a pair of the HRD rubber hoods. It seems not available yet on the market. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance.
Got the pre release in a box here and this video has made me very excited to test!
Can't wait to get your feedback too, Francis! :)
Why bother? All you do is talk trash when it comes to chinese companies. Then you'll make a video comparing it to sram or shimano's electric groupset 😂
Can you also please check the brake if it is compatible with Shimano Hydraulic STI? Thanks!
Just need to get Vieri to like it !
@@markoedu3688 very high chance it is compatible. Even the fittings are the same
yes, this company is getting better every year
In the past, you've convinced me to get the old Empire. Now, you've sold me yet again. Big thanks on being the best source on these Chinese groupsets.
Except it's not a groupset.
@stevewilliams5428 Enlighten me, what is it then?
@@bsbbernal The 105 groupset from wiggle for £430 includes the following2x Shimano ST-R7020 Levers (gear and brake cables included)
2x Shimano BR-R7020 Disc brake calipers
2x 140mm Shimano SM-RT70 Centrelock disc brake rotors
1x Shimano FC-R7000 Chainset, 50/34T
1x Shimano FD-R7000-L Front Derailleur (Braze-on type, downswing
1x Shimano RD-R7000 Short Cage Rear Derailleur
1x Shimano R7000 11-Speed Cassette, 11-30T (Shimano 9-11-Speed freehub compatibility)
1x Shimano HG601 Siltec chain, 11-Speed, 116 links, Quicklink included
1x Shimano BB-R60 Threaded (English Thread) Bottom Bracket
Includes all outer cables, brake inner cables and gear cables The Chinese 'groupsets' this creator promotes don't include rear cassette, chainset, chain. rotors or BB. So the 105 is a groupset and better value.
@@bsbbernal Pedantic, but yeah, it is a "partial" groupset without a chainset and chain. This is important because once you factor in all the additional cost you are left thinking, shall I just pay an extra £100 for a Shimano GRX. Which is exactly what I'm going to do.
@@stevewilliams5428 It has a groupset option, with cranks, cassette, chain and bottom bracket
The issues with Sensah regarding shifting are endless but the best thing to do is forget about it because it gets better by the use.
I like the solution for the front derailleur using spacers but to be honest I changed my FD from Sensah to Shimano because of the trimming and now it is perfect.
I feel it's time to jump to hydraulics so I'm going to try a Chinese frame for the first time and this new Sensah group makes some sense of course if the price is right 😂
Thanks for the video Luke.🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
They said the Sensah group took a very small amount of inspiration (nothing copied just inspired lol), but if you've used Sram Red 22 before, you wouldn't be surprised with the Sensah's shifting lol. Weirdly enough I've gotten mine to shift perfectly, so good in fact I'm afraid to change anything up.
The issue with FD can also be found on Shimano FD, it's just isn't as obvious due to additional plastic layer on the inner cage. Have seen many plastic layers suffer from heavy wear.
@@hkchew03 I haven't experienced issues with the 105 FD buh to be honest probably you're right.
@@dan_lazaro we're in the same spot. I'm satisfied with the way my Sensah Empire group does the job . I'll experiment with a new group probably the one in the video but for the price Sensah is totally reliable
@@eLpELoNdeJaPoN I guess its largely dependent on the frame especially with blaze on FD
I'm seeing entry level kids' and adult sports store mountain bikes coming with LTWOO groupsets here in Norway these days, so I'm guessing it's only a matter of time before Sensah shows up as well. Exciting times for sure.
Your statement nailed it. Competition is good for consumers. I am not sure I would put this on my best bikes but the headline item is that it is $300. I have a feeling that spares would be hard to come by (replacement hoods, new rear derailleur only in case you crash)
Hoods and derailleurs for their other models are listed on the Sensah Ali store, these will surely follow. After experience with Ultegra/105 (good), L-twoo GRT (meh) and Sensah Phi (good), Sensah/Sentyeh is already a quality brand, let's hope they keep on getting it right.
This man just puts out banger content.
I love the Sensah shifting with just a single lever for everything...for me it's a better system than LTwoo but also better than Shimano and SRAM. As for having to push the lever a long way for a double shift, just get into the habit of pushing the lever blade further up towards the hoods for less hand reach. A smart move for Sensah might be to bring out hydraulic versions of their Shimano-compatible Team Pro (105) and Quantum (Tiagra) levers and ship them with calipers.
They have i've just ordered the Team pro 105 compatible hydraulics
@@sfasto1 Ooo really? On Ali Express?
[Make sure that shifters match the gears they'll be shifting the chain on]
[The only criteria to consider when selecting derailleurs is their capacity and their mounting style. Rear derailleurs especially are dumb and will always obey the shifters running them unless the Derailleur is not mechanically sound.]
These two golden rules of putting bicycle drivetrains together is one I've established for myself after numerous in-depth studies and have grown to live by.
Thanks again for your efforts on these expository topics!
Hi Luke. Stumbled across your channel yesterday. This was the first video I watched, and I subscribed today. First off, well done on what you have achieved in 2 years with your channel. (As a fellow Siroko Ambassador who hasn't done anywhere near as much I am impressed with your very professional product placement and videos). For me, it's a hobby and will Never ever replace my day job. Anyway, back to topic, it's interesting to hear about this new groups from a smaller company than the likes of Sram or Shimano etc. I will certainly stay tuned. Thanks Luke for your content. 🥖🥖🥖🥖
Nice video dude , look forward to the trifox build 🥖🥖🥖🥖 feel you need to so cross country mtb build 👌
Ive been using the Sensah Empire 12S mechanical for about 1.5yrs.
Absolutely nothing to complain about on my end - even with sub-optimal internal routing. Then again, i am part of the big hand club.
Great content, as always. 🥖🥐
I remember how excited you were for the first time you were sponsored by siroko, If i recall right they were your first? maybe second, nice that they are still working with you.
Luke! Just ordered. Crossing my fingers of the quality. So far I've been using Sensah Empire Shifters for 2 years, matched it with Sram Force 22 RD and FD, no issues at all. I will match the HRD with these. Wish me luck!
Hi Luke, 105 hydraulic groupset with crank, BB and casette is £430 on Wiggle now.
Discontinuing movement for its new 12speed.
430gbp is 550usd. That's 83pc more than 300usd.
@@kleeo83doesn't mean what he said isn't true
@@pierrex3226tax
@@pierrex3226 But the 105 is a groupset, the sensah/ltwoo are not.
Great to see these lower cost options coming out and improving quickly. Keep cycling accessible for everyone! Have some 🧀with your 🥖
Thank you for all your hard work. Sounds like a great group set. I love my Empire set. I have never missed a shift, front or rear. Took awhile to get the front perfect, but now it works a good as my Dura Ace 9000. Only thing I would like to see changed ,is a shorter up shift throw. Short rides it is not a problem , but after 3 hrs it gets annoying.🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥐🥐🥐🥐🥐
I just used your rubberized plastic hack for my seatpost on my Trifox X16 build. It seems to work so far, but I haven't finished the build yet. Also I found that if you want to run 12 speed on an X16, you will need a thin washer between the drop out and drive side rear axle, otherwise the cassette binds against the frame when you torque the axle down. I'm still documenting my build on my channel. Looking forward to the X18 build. Thank you Luke.
Hoping for a 11 speed version. Definitely cheaper and less finicky in indexing
Agreed, 11 speeds is the sweet spot at the moment
I'll even take 10 over 12.
Converted my Red22 shifters to 12sp and it's actually better than stock. About 12,000 miles and I've barely touched my barrel adjusters
2x11 with a super compact crank say 44/28 and 11/36 in the rear with hydraulic braking is my bikepacking wet dream. 👍
Good news, you got it now.
Agree about competition being a good thing. Can't wait to see your review of the electronic groupset!
🥖🥖🥖 I love your content Trace. Keep them coming, and congrats on becoming a full time influencer!! Cant wait for the trifox frameset review, There were some negative reviews on Trifox so im curious to see your take.
yeah, the top cap really looks like 'cheap plastic' and it kinda differs from the rest of the sti's, which looks good. I don't think it'd be a high cost to Sensah to use a better-looking plastic, and could definitely change the perception.
Nevertheless, not the main point, which is that Sensah is coming strong with a nice hydro groupset, affordable AND light! That's really good.
I'm studying for a build next year, so will keep that on my radar.
Sensah needs to also convert their Shimano compatible shifters into hydraulic. I got so used to using the Team Pro carbon shifters on my spare road bike, I ended up replacing my Shimano shifters on my main road bike as well! The carbon Team Pro shifters work like butter on my Shimano front/rear derailleurs. At least for mechanical shifting, Sensah one lever shifting/braking is much slicker than LTwoo, not to mention accessing the LTwoo shifter clamp bolt is a big PITA. It's near impossible to take off the Ltwoo rubber hoods.
Anyways, Great video as usual! 🥖🥖🥖
I am definitely interested. Ever since Shimano made the 105 Di2, I have expanded my horizons.
The Shimano bleed cup comes with an extender. Lots of Shimano brake levers have the same issue.
Always grateful for your reports, Luke. Thanks. 🥖🥖
🥖🥖🥖🥖 for an awesome review ! Thank you Luke
I was always somewhat suspicious about Luke’s opinions but I spied the sneaky box of gochujang in the corner which has now totally convinced me he is a man of great tastes.
I have completely given up on frames, wheels, handlebars, etc from established brands, but so far I have at least kept the groupsets on my bikes genuine Shimano (105 R7020 and Ultegra Di2 R8170). I still don't feel that the mechanical Chinese groupsets are polished enough to invest some money, time and efford in, but I am seriously considering the L-Twoo eRX as a replacement for my 105 R7020...
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Another great video Luke. You know what they say, 'big hands. . . . .Sensah group set it is'.
Hi Luke. Another fantastic, in depth, and informative video. Well done.
so close to 100k subs luke. advance congratulations ! 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
We need more banjos and even more of them detachable from the housing! Yee-haw!
I work in the bicycle industry, I've become tired of the prices of modern road parts, even at wholesale the prices are insane. I really want to try this group.
You get a lot more for your money now. I'd much rather have new 105 than $2300 Dura Ace from 2010
Sensah HDR 2x12 already in the store!!!
Caliper cap: I wonder if the caliper cap is reverse threaded? Or are they maybe like Hope, where you have to get the piston out first, and then the cap screws down and through, and then out of the pad area?
Also, regarding the previous calipers 'blocking' when the hose threading is inserted too far; I think there's meant to be a washer or spacer around the end of the threaded section. This would stop the hard metal hex end from crushing up against the softer caliper body inadvertently.
Looking stylish there Luke, and keep the great videos coming 🥖
I actually prefer sensah rear shifting over Shimano, but the front one is just not nearly as good. Single blade lever also feel nicer overall. Just wish the hood is a little smaller for the HRD.
I swapped out the Sensah FD with a long armed Tiagra one...super smooth and works fine with the Senash shifter.
@@belverticale by long armed Tiagra which one do you mean? I believe different gens of Tiagra have different cable pull even for the FD if I'm not mistaken.
@@charliewhiskey8440 the most recent version - 4700 series. Or you could use a 105 7000 series front derailleur with the different toggle design. front derailleurs are cheap compared with rear derailleurs, shifters or cranks so I'd really recommend switching out the Sensah one.
My Sensah Empire Pro rear derailleur cage cracked recently. Careful with those.
This is what I was afraid of. They should just make it aluminum for durability.
Can you replace them with aftermarket ones? Would be nice if you can.
Great vid as usual Luke, that poor bike has had more identity changes than ive had hot dinners! Groupset looks good so far! When are we going to see "Mrs Luke" assisting with video presentation? Would add another dimension to your productions! Seen it done on another channel. 😁😁😁 best wishes 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖😂
If you angle your hoods inwards then it makes the down shifts significantly easier.
Looking forward with their gravel groupset😊
Waiting fot a review of the electronic L-twoo!
Mine still works great since September last year, almost 10,000 kilometers. You have to have the right conversion plug to bleed flawlessly. Paired this with Sram 22 RD ang FD, running on the 11 speed version. Any update, Luke?
I have Sora r3000 2x9 on my bike, the shifting is bomb proof. No issues ever, even when using both at the same time. I never wish for smaller steps, just a lighter crank arm and cassette.
I really don't think 2x12 is worth the fiddle.
Sensah FD does not have a cable housing end stopper. If you are going full cable housing from the lever all the way to FD, 10:45 it seems the FD housing end is not fixed in podition.
Great video as ever Luke! Love the insight and the detail you go to. What's that bling-a-de-bling chain you're running? 🥖🥖🥖😁
18:38 humble brag
It's funny, I mentioned this group in my video released today 😅
Too bad it's not on sale yet otherwise it might have ended up on my next bike.
Great vid! Please keep us updated how it is performing in the long term - if it is solid I'm gonna put that into my gravel 😄
Yet another great vid Luke. Quick question though when are you going to paint your garage for a nicer filming environmen?? 🥖🥖🥖
Sensah Seems promising as compared to LTWOO but lets hope they actually work in long term usage.
i think sensah is more durable beacuse aluminum lever.
AWESOME video as usual! Wonder if you had thought of making a "Luke recommends!" video of a whole setup for say $500, $1000, $1500 and $2000.....thoughts?!?! 🥖🥖🥖🥖
Awesome as usual Luke :) ... Love my Sensah SRX pro on the gravel bike, almost as much as my Shimano GRX on the other gravel bike ! ..... any idea if they plan to do a 1x group set for gravel etc ? ... cheers and keep em coming
I’m in the same boat as you. I understand they are coming out with the 1x gravel groupset at the same time as the road 2x
I have the 12 speed cable ones with about 3 thousand miles, only want to upgrade because hydro brakes are better. And mine do shift so smooth under power. Took 2 months to get and came in a box that didn't have corners on it anymore.
Someday I want to hear the non-copyright cut-off, full version of the bonus clip theme song 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖
I find the springs fail on all these chinese brands, had it happen on sensah and ltwoo, maybe a video showing if any of these are serviceable ?
Your request will fall on deaf ears. I've asked the question over and over about small parts availability and you get a walk if silence
Love the British interchangeability between Km and Miles (mileage) (about 2,000 Km) (150 miles). What do y'all use over there on the Big Island?
Direct Link ??? Shop does not show anything from Pro HRD ...
Random Spyro the Dragon cameo :)
My tandem works really well with those ipro calipers, i had to cnc a piece to use ltwoo calipers then just wasnt enought so i had changed to ipro. Not sure that "braking performace" is really about the sensah groupset.
I have same issue with 9 speed shifters. Sensah needs a electronic shifters.
Hy, and congrats for this film! Pretty good news, weight and reliability-wise. Glad to hear the reassuring news about braking.
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I'm coming with my standard questions:
- minimum cog this system works with? Will it work with an 10teeth smallest cog?
- maximum cog this system works with? Will it shift a 33 or 36 cassette?
It's worth mentioning these aspects :)
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I really don't see the need for 12 speed. But it does seem like a nice option for the money for those that feel like they need 12 gears.
Question: Why are you running your brakes backwards (left=front / US style) considering your Britishness? For me, I would end up over the bars more often than ideal. Cheers :)
curious to see the Trifox X18 review
Hate to say it but Ltwoo really has sensah beat on this one bruh.
Was kinda hoping since they took longer to release they'd make atleast as decent design for their hydraulic groupset.
I'm not defending Sensah, and what you say is probably the case now, but the production version of the groupset is still to be released. I'm just happy there is actual groupset competition, and quality should get better over time. That's my hope anyway.
DO NOT BOTHER BUYING FROM THIS COMPANY...
I made the choice to go with a 11x2 groupset which this channel recommended and I have had nothing but trouble 1500km in...cracked hanger cage, jelly metal hanger bolt...excessive wearing on both levers ( Sensah replaced the right lever which then had a piece of plastic to stop the metal wearing, the plastic broke after about 100km) Sensah customer service told me to reorder the defective product...when I said I refused to pay for a defective product they said "don't buy it then" 😅...zero help...
I'll never make this mistake again...
The cigar is close, 100k on the horizon
There are f-in‘ baguette 🥖 pillows available on Temu… what a shame we are too late for Bastille Day
Luke, I watch your videos regularly and love your entertaining and informative style. Recently I was hit by a car while out on my bike. I sustained fairly minor injuries but my bike is a bit worse for wear. While the frame seems intact my rear derailer and left side gear/brake levers are not servicable. I have a 2003 Trek 5500 w/Dura Ace 10 speed groupset and was wondering if you had a budget friendly alternative you could recommend.
If you're looking for a new option, the Sensah Phi shifters are a direct replacement for the old Shimano 10-speed levers. However, if you live in an area with an active second hand bicycle parts market, it's generally pretty easy to find the Shimano 10-speed levers pretty cheaply. For rear derailleurs, if you're not going second-hand then the Sora shifter is the highest level replacement that is compatible (the current level rear derailleurs for Tiagra and up have a different pull ratio - meaning that they'll move a different distance per mm of cable pulled through the shifter). Alternatively, if you want to use a wide-range cassette (11-32 and up), you can use a Shimano 8 or 9 speed MTB rear derailleur like Shimano Alivio.
Hi, i write message to sensah official store. And now i know what 1x11 hrd groupset will sell on the next week. I think about it
Have you seen the new team pro hydraulic 2x12? Just got myself a good deal and will try using that paired with a grx 810 front and rear
waiting for an SRX upgrade now!
did you purge already, waiting the team pro hrd to use with shimano 105; would be great to see more indeep bleed, purge how to for this groupset
Any tips for the best rim brake groupset from Sensah, am struggling to find any!!
pretty much all of the sensah except for this HRD. You probably looking at the wrong place if you are struggling to find one.
Why they designed that large screw on the back of caliper body? It is only possible place of fluid leak. Shimano calipers don’t have that large hole with screw plug.
Two thumbs fresh video ! Sending french pastries...
When is chinese groupset going to come up with electronic?
Hi Luke , concerning hood size etc , can you do a side by side comparison of the new shifters compared to the SRX pro levers, just to get a better idea of the size please .... Thanks
where you got it? they didn;t sale it on the chinese online market, so they offered this for the partership program?
I do like how you are still using the Lidl/Aldi bike stand.
is it the same one sold at both locations? i tried the lidl one and hated it
Guess Shimano better fix their road bike components now, these look promising.
I wonder if the shifters are compatible with shimano 105 mechanical 12 speed derailleurs
You should give a try to III PRO discs. The model PM at 06 and PM ar 09.
Impressive. I'd like to see the full throw downshift 3x not 2x. Is an electronic version in the pipeline?
Not a bad groupset. If it works. I like that
Wondering if they comes in rim brakes
Great content as always, Luke.👌🥐🥖
Challenge is to find sourcing methods that keeps you below divorce threshold. So far i have awesome gear and a happy wife! Thankx China 😂
Happy new year Luke,any review on Sensah 1 x HRD groupset for gravel / CX purposes? how does the price compare to shimano/sram hrd mechanical? Thanks
When you say the shifters are large, how do they conpare to the larger 1st generation of shimano hydraulic levers (the non-groupset versions)? Bigger than those?
🥖 Dude, any chance you can share some tips on bleeding these brake calipers please, or point me in the rite direction ?
Without the bleed port screw that’s on Shimano I’m struggling to seal up without getting air bubbles 😬
Yeah it can be quite tough tbh. The only real advice I can give is to be quite quick getting the screw back in. Thinking about it, the easiest way to avoid bubbles might be to bleed it, and seal up the shifter port first. Then once that's done, you could lay the bike down on its side before removing the syringe, and trying to seal the caliper bolt. With the bike horizontal, the oil probably won't leak out, and you can take a bit more time getting the screw back in without loads of air getting in. I haven't tried it this way, but it should work in theory. Anyway good luck, hope that helps 😊
Thanks for getting back to me so soon. I’ll have a go a your suggestion. I was kind of hoping you had a quick fix/easy hack..
Thanks again, keep the shows coming 😉🥖
Another banger of a video, here's your croissant 🥐🥐 (the bakery was out of baguettes, sorry).
sensah hydraulic shifters! wow i've been waiting for this so long!
anyway do you think this shifters are compatible with shimano brakes? honestly i love that kind of mixture 😊
@TaceVelo any chance these are still compatible with Mechanical Sram derailleurs?
Hi Luke. I got mine and it's been 5months or 5k+ kilometers with me. Shifting is great, breaking aswell. But I utterly destroyed the rubber hoods when I had to adjust something and needed to remove the right side hoods. How can I get my hands on for a pair of the HRD rubber hoods. It seems not available yet on the market. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance.
I want to see fully integrated with a mechanical Groupset and see the cable routing xD
hi i bought sensa hydrolic pro, however i notice that when I shift into 2nd gear (13T), it does not shift? how can i fix it?😢😢😭😭😭
Does it have a triathlon version? Or can I mix it with a different TRI shifters?