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@NoVaOCD what type of connection cable do you have? As that low upload speed would not probably be a thing on the other side and more of limitation of your connection they buy symmetrically because if you’re gonna have any issues it’ll be downloaded.
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Maybe NBN should actually finish the FTTP roll out
Don’t let the liberals hear you say that.
@@Alan.livingston They're not in government and haven't been for several years
@@SpookFilthy yeah, but Dutto could be PM next year, whether one likes it or not.
@@arokh72 true - not sure what the current Lib position is towards NBN. Malcolm Turnbull scuttled it and Labor are not blameless either on how they handled it. I just want the current govt to sort it. Any mention in the budget?
@SpookFilthy how is it labors fault that the libs wanted a copper mix over the planned full fiber network Rudd wanted?
Im happy with 1 Gb/s down but really want faster upload speeds for backups etc.
Same here, what’s killing me is my upload!!
yep wish they would balance it a bit more. instead of 1000/50 why not offer 800/200 or similar, or even 500/500
@@iris4547Because then they can't charge businesses crazy money for the symmetric speeds
100% this, download is fine upload is still very lacking. I think if you're paying for gigabit then 100mbit minimum upload should be the norm. I understand there are business plans. I think even those are lacking tbh. Maybe even like some RSP's offer a static IP, you could pay for an addon of extra upload bandwidth? idk
@@richard6946 this is exactly it.. but 50mbit up on a 1g down is a piss take
Cannot wait to get my 2000/20 😂😂😂
Why stop there, lets go 3000/1
They need to focus on providing 1000/200 Mbps plans to residential customers at under $100/mo. These improvements to the NBN are purely superficial. They will be utilised by such a small number of people. While costs for basic internet access are inflated. They should use their resources better
Totally agree. Will be interesting to see how much the ISPs try to bleed out of us for the higher speeds. According to USA today the average American household pays approx $75USD for their 1gig plans.
@@fixn-n-mixn8663 so they pay more than us? great point
@@andrewk8057 Well I pay $105AUD for 100/40.
If they pay $75USD for 1000/ ??? That's about $112AUD. I'd really hope we don't get shafted on 1000/200.
If they up the speed and keep the price the same or similar, it will be a miracle.
Bruh. I can’t even get 100 megabytes for less than $100. I’m at $80 for 50mbps. Tf?
you are part of White erasure
I don't think my copper lines can handle that much internet 🤔🤣🤣🤣
Got FTTN... can't wait for this video to finish buffering so I can watch it
You lost me at “eye-watering 500Mbps”.
Symmetrical fibre has been a thing in developed countries for decades…
Eye watering for Australians
Great but more affordable lower speed tiers would bring more benefit to more people....
catch 22 if you get more paying for the higher speeds then allows the companies to get more from nbn co at the lower tiers cheaper
Congratulations on the birth of your Bub, Pat.
My son is almost wetting his pants in excitement over this announcement.
I have Copper lines in my street going to the node hundreds of meters down the road. The copper dates back to the 1960s, great choice for 21st century communications. Over the last 2 weeks workers have been digging up the street and have, apparently, been installing fibre cables. WOW, we can get fibre to the home! Only about 15 years too late, but better than never.
Congrats mate!
1:53 - I like, "...but only 100 Mbps up..." How times have changed from the old dial-up and ADSL 🤣
Nothing has changed, we are still getting shafted on upload speeds.
@@seqvirtualtours406 I was making the point that not too long ago, 100Mbps was the fastest download speed on offer and now we think that 100Mbps upload is slow.
I love living in New Zealand lol 2 gig symmetrical lol
I went from 50 to 100 to 250 not a huge difference tbh, sure file downloads are pretty wild like games from steam, an drivers at 20+ MBps, but general browsing is same
@@brandonchappell1535 I'm the same. I'm on 250 at the moment and it is great for 200GB+ downloads which I don't do very often (one a month at most), but for what I do 90% of the time it would make no difference if I was on a 25 or 250+ plan.
congrats on the new child, also 2000/2000 is available on the ufb fibre to the home in nz for only about 129nzd :P also most fibre providers in nz upgrade your ont to a 1 x 10 gig port with 4x1 gig , all houses unless your on hyperfibre you will only get a 4 x1 gig ont standard
Pipe down NZ 😛
Congrats !!!!
Congratulations TMP 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Congratulations on your child Pat!
Congratulations on your daughter! I hear you, we had our first 5 months ago and the sleep deprivation hit hard, plus I’d just moved to Perth and that combo ensured some lovely postnatal depression. Top stuff. Sending lots of love to you and your family, I’m kinda impressed you’re still doing videos in that state!
Thank you mate, yes the video happen but very slowly ;)
I have 1Gb on FTTP, SamKnows shows i avg 930 or so Mbps, so Im happy with that.
Give me an increase to upload speed, 50Mpbs just doesnt cut it in todays world..
Malcolm Turnbul ruined Australia's chance to have FTTP or even fibre to the curb. All that infrastructure would of been close to completion by now. But as usual we went the cheaper option and remained behind the rest of the world.
We don't even get FTTP for "near" Gigabit connections, good luck us getting 2Gb. Hard enough to get full speed on my 75Mb connection.
Pretty slow Australia...... come to NZ, most people can get up to 8/8 Gbps at home if they want, and have been able to for a while.
with Australia's broadband network having to service 5x the population of NZ, and about the same in effective geographic area, what's your point?
Congratulation, I think she has your hair!
Good analysis.
Is the FTTP being upgraded to NG-PON2, or will it still be using GPON?
If it's not seems like a waste upgrading the NTU only to replace it again in a couple of years (might be optimistic with that estimate).
Good pickup on the HFC limitation..
I'm guessing the NTU connection to the customer router will be a copper cable.
Though I find anything copper over 1 gigabit runs hot NIC wise.
XGS-PON. Then probably 50G-PON down the road.
I'll be happy once fibre comes to us in September 2025 😲
Can't even get 25/10 on VDSL 😱
more speeds! lol. Adelaide metro and any possible fttp upgrade bumped to atleast Dec 2025. Giving up on my 30/7 connection and moving to starlink.
Meanwhile those of us who live regionally struggle to get real world speeds above 3Mbps upload using fixed wireless. But let's not fix that, let's invest in improving services for the poor folks who can only get 300Mbps.
Good luck with the little one
Thank you mate ;)
What I don’t understand for Australian connections… now some homes have fibre to the door, why are we still using asynchronous speed offerings?
It would be nice if they focused on bringing upload speed closer towards on par with download speed.
does the single port ntd means its going to be an sfp module, i hope that will be case or at least an option for residential.
Based on the announcement and other rumours, I'd say it'll be something like the Nokia G-010G-T with its single 2.5G LAN port. Nokia does do SFP versions of it but who knows if it'll be an option that'll work with the way NBN assigns IDs to the NTDs.
congrats on the bub
It's a complete joke. I can barely get 50mbps because i'm about 700m away from the node, and even still it drops down below 20mbps sometimes. Estimated FTTP upgrade was Ausgust 2023, then June 2024, now December 2025.
Would be nice if they'd htfu and expand the fibre network. Far too many people even in urban areas are still on FTTN.
If they introduce this tier, they should drop the price of lower plans by $20 to incentivise people to upgrade.
Congrats man. Let the sleepless nights continue for about 5 months
I have fiber to curb and I pay $30 every month extra to get a modest bump in speed at peak times, if only NBN too time to fix curb to premises we would be well off and enjoy the speeds
Congrats on the bub, 8mo in on our third right now, still waking up once a night but not quite like that first few weeks. If for any other reason I think they'd call the sleep deprivation torture.
Love this announce but I would love to see the gigabit plans get more symmetrical for same or lower cost instead.
Still, this will be good for power users and as we know these things do eventually filter down to lower tiers and lower costs over time.
Can we get decent upload speed instead?
I can also recommend Launtel. My 1GB FTTP connection rocks.
Technically speaking the maximum speed of the commercially implemented multi and single mode fiber infrastructure used by nbn is easily able to supply end users of FRTP with speeds of 10 gig full duplex (up and down at the same time)
This likely came up in the design and development of the fttp nbn infrastructure planning, and it probably came down to a $3 per modem unit cost differential which ultimately resulted in all existing end user decoding being equipped with 1gig NICs.
Anyone can go out and purchase an OEM encoder/decoder with 10gig Ethernet as standard and configure it.
Congrats, Tech Man Pat, turned Dad Man Pat 🎉
Just imagine the tech world that lies ahead for your kid. It’s gonna be bonkers 😂
Thanks mate, oh its the wild west out there for sure!
That would be nice, however, karratha is not even in the free fttp upgrade path
Congratulations on your bundle of joy Pat. I've seen your insta reels...cute family. NBN FTTP 2.5G...won't that require an NTD upgrade as the current one is 1Gb?
Thanks mate :)
That's so funny, I've been on 4000/4000 XGS-PON for the last two years in New Zealand
3 / 3 here as well in Canada.
So if I want 2gbps speeds, I would lose 200mbps upload? I currently have 1000/400 or could launtel provide the 2000/500 plans without the ABN like they do with 1000/400
One step forward two steps back.
Meanwhile Americans are enjoying 8 gbps right now
hey will this be a rebranded ultrafast.
Or a completely new plan?
May end up being a new plan
Sigh. I just want 1000/1000 as standard on a 1g plan not 50Mbps. Need to upgrade my switch gear for 2G.
Jeepers ... Currently my HFC is only 108Mb Dload and 18Mb Uload. (Telsra Aust)
It supposed to be faster, but it can also be because I'm fairly far away from the exchange.
Any ideas on how to speed this puppy up?
BTW Congrats on the new member of the family - there goes your free time. : )
You could try and physicaly shorten the cable run, or re do the plug at the end, other than that not much really, just keep it away from your microwave :)
i wonder if we can find a 8k60 webcam to test out the 100Mbps upload speed of the new connections
I would be happy with 250Mbps for a start, and reliability improved.
Can you make tutorials/guides on typical NBN setups?
Good idea, I will explore this thanks !
I'm on 1gb/50mb plan currently and would really like faster upload. Looked at Launtel and their 1gb/400mb plan costs over double! I really hope these new speeds will reduce current prices overall :/
I wonder why they are limiting the upload on the 2G plans. Entry level hyper fibre plans in New Zealand even for residential are symmetrical. Even our 1Gbps plans we get 500 up.
because we still have HFC. Docsis (HFC) has nonsymmetrical upload so the upload for actual fibre is artificially limited to keep the pricing the same across different technologies.... assumedly. Also lets them set business fibre plans apart and charge more for them, as those are symmetrical
Nice Launtel plug ☺️ highly recommend Launtel also.
I just would be curious to know if Launtel is giving him a special price on the service or not, just in terms of transparency.
@@mga71 I don't think so. Launtel offer any of their customers the chance to use the referral link. He does also get a kick back for referral so I suspect he is just using this system with Launtel permission. I have signed up heaps of people the same way and both the new customer and I receive a credit on our account.
@@mga71 Damian Ivereigh from Launtel here - he isn't getting a special price, but he is getting the same referral credits (not cash) as everyone else gets. He also had about $700 of referral credits from another provider that he wouldn't be able to use if he moved to us, so we transferred those into his new account as well. Thanks for the question!
All plans should come with symmetrical speeds imo
I have FTTP and have had it since the beginning. The best i can get is 930 mbps down and 56 mbps up
"lightning broadband" in Melbourne makes NBN CO look like rubbish when its comes to upload speeds and nearly everything else.
We were sold on the 4 port NBN device and we need that since we have 2 people with 2 accounts on out property. Are you saying that if we want 2Gbps, they want to give us a 1 port device ?
Correct
THE ONTS SEEM A WAST OF MONEY TO DEPOY
AT 2.5 GB WHEN WE HAD 10GB CAPABLE LANS 25 YEARS AGO
10 Gbps networks did not even exist 25 years ago.
All of my NBN connections in regionals - they go direct from the NBN fibre network, into an SFP... We avoid the NTD entirely. We've been testing a direct connection at 1000/400 and it's okay - just not brilliant. Never have seen more than 200Mb/sec up in reality... Most likely due to shaping in the node.
I would like to see a deeper dive on the mobile sector more regarding the technology, seeing that 5G (and beyond) is on the rise Pat. Love the work you're doing on this channel.
Sucks to live in ozzie. Just upgraded my home connection to 2000mbps down and up :)
I'm with many of the people in the comments here. I really don't need more DL speed I need more upload speed. Running a home server is taxing on upload and currently 50mbps for up just isn't enough.
stuck on neglected opticom hfc . 100mb max gives barely 500kb peak time .
Not here. I'm around 50m from the closest FTTN box, but my cable runs over 800m to a different box. So I can barely get 50 Mbps. :(
i just want more than 50 on my 1000 connection lol
here I am still unable to get 75mbps down, talking to housing and local MP about when it is exactly being connected at mine as I received a letter in the mail around 6 months ago saying fttp would be coming to mine by 2025. Seen to works or anything else to indicate anything is happening so far.
2.5Gbps+ modems and switches exist for consumer things, how "professional" i9s this shit house way past due so behind the times all the time and so fucking inconsistent NBN rubbish?
Had the MP say the information provided by the NBNco to her was wrong and she apologized and is asking when I am getting within the context of my particular situation and it's been a week already and nothing
I'm getting tired of this continued bullshit inconsistent incompetence with gov and NBNco in general
My speeds with FTTP is 80/35 Mbits/sec and cost me $72.00. There was no bargain lately, to increase this speed marginally for $135.00. Now Telstra has a 700Mbit/sec for $170.00. Since there is not twice as much infrastructure, why charge more than twice as much for speed?
mbits or Mbytes?
10Gbps everywhere?! 😱
We will have caught up to Singapore 😱😱
Singapore what an intelligent comparison. A 730sqkm piece of overcrowded land, there are farms around that size in this country.
@@zorbakaput8537 Not really. Japan is 20x smaller than us and still kicks our arse with speeds and tech in general.
Point is, For such a large country physically, we still trail behind India for the most part.
Even Brazil has better average speeds than we do and they are bigger than us.
We SHOULD have got fibre from day 1 but y'all can blame Malcolm "in the middle" Turnbull for that one. 🙄
wish NBN would upgrade satilite network our max speed is only 25mbps down 5mbps up it totally sucks worst is the delay pings normally between 5-600ms cant be gamed on
Yeah and they forget the bush. Always WiFi or sattelite internet.
Speeds will still be capped at 100mbps in Australia..
I wonder how NBN prices compare to the rest of the world currently and for the new plans. Is Australia the most expensive ?
High up there maybe not most
Probably not as much as we're paying for retail rates here in Canada.
I recently upgraded to 500 down and I can't even imagine a 2gb down connection.
Guess we'll never get symmetrical
Speed costs. How fast do you want to go.
Still waiting for an option to upgrade from FTTB to FTTP…..
Congratulations man. Can NBN Fixed Wireless get faster?
I doubt wireless will ever really get fast, until they swap over to 5G or you move to starlink
@@TechManPat yep. Thought so. If the technology can’t miraculously be improved, I guess it’ll get slower as more new houses are using the same tower. Cheers
The biggest problem with the NBN (apart from the Liberal megastuffup) is they are now excitedly ranting about 2Gb downloads (which not a single householder would ever need or use) while charging 10 times the proper price for current plans.
If you want to stream a 4K movie during the evening peak time then you definitely need a high speed internet so the 2 Gb speed is going to get used a lot.
@@petrfila339 Rubbish. Only a miniscule few people have better than 1Gb ethernet at home which limits them to 700mbps at the very best at 3am, and even fewer would want to pay $500 a month for 2Gb internet after paying thousands for 10GBps LAN structure. For what> To stream some 4k content - mate, stop smoking whatever it is you're on, it's making you talk crap.
Our 1gbps link is almost always between 70-95% which all the smart devices, streaming 4k, downloading 400GB Virtual Hard Disks etc. Backing up is the nightmare where it's only 50mbps (Opticomm)
@@einfelder8262 That's nonsense nowadays. You're living in the past.
@@0bsmith0 I'm living in the present, your statement is nonsense.
NZ sitting with 1, 2, 4 and 8Gbps
I just got 250 fttp the other day, its lucky to get 180/190, with a high end asus router, cant see it reaching 2g tbh
All these upgrades are whatever. Need to prioritise getting everyone onto fttp and making 1000/100 the new normal plan. Even going 500/50 should be maximum $50 per month moving forward.
nbn is about to commence a new HFC active and passive device upgrade to the network.
Still no plan to upgrade FTTB customers.😢
Actually there is, it is lagging behind FTTN upgrades because it is much more complicated. The only sensible way to upgrade FTTB is to do the entire building at once involving the strata owners etc. If you can see that FTTP is in your area, then it would be worth asking your strata managers to enquire. There is typically a cost of $200 / apartment and given all the planning / negotiation involved it does take a lot longer.
Awww, so I have to give up my original 4 port NTD if I want a single connection over 1Gb? :( I wonder if I could swing the business one of I ever upgrade. I often have fantasies about using all 4 ports on my NTD each with their own gigabit connection, each with a seperate ISP for redundancy and aggregation... Realistically I'll PROBABLY never do it, but maybe one day :P
I do like these higher speeds being enabled, and it just goes to prove FTTP was always the ONLY choice. I just hope with the higher speed options becoming available, more FTTP gets rolled out to more people in more places. Maybe one day some fixed wireless and Satelite service areas will get fibre as well.
The way you describe the NTD is not how things work. It's a 4 port switch to one connection not a router with 4 independent WAN connections. Yes, FTTP was the way and the capability and speeds are just the starting point with tons of room for growth. They just need to continue pushing for further upgrades across the whole coverage area. As long as they keep going.
@@0bsmith0 No it's not a router, but those 4 ports are not switched either, when you get a new connection it is assigned to ONE of the ports (usually UNI-D 1 if it is free), connecting to any other port with result in NO connection. You can absolutely have 4 seperate internet connection on a single 4 port NTD, those connections can not talk to each other though, the router needs to be connected to all active ports and configured for aggregation/ failover.
Hfc is good but is there a point to go DOCIS 4.0 since we have fibre isn't it better to replace the hfc network with fibre
Yes, DOCSIS 4 is Ok as a transition, but eventually they'll have to overbuild a FTTH network and migrate customers just as they are with DSL.
@@0bsmith0 they are going to spend more money like that they better of just transitioning to straight fibre get it done right for the first time
/me pulls the string tighter on the bottom of his tin can. Oh yay... new baby. Grats mate
thank you mate :P
If you need 2gps for home use you need to get out more
Congrats on your daughter. She has your hair! 😅
😊 thank you
Sounds like a bit of shrinkflation/sh*tflation
Charging a higher price for increased speeds that you are not even able to get even though you are paying for it.
Also charging for 1000Mbps and not even being made available technically let alone typical evening speeds also seems a bit bait and switch-y style fraud to me. It would be all good and fine if there was a way to actually achieve that speed, but as you said until recently the limit imposed by NBN was 700ish so the ISP's saying " Oh yeah 100mbps " seems like fraud.
and the MASIVE amount of people stuck with fixed wireless are once again forgotten.
Live in the middle of nowhere but want taxpayers to fund your connection? Try star link maybe.
@dirtmcgirt168 litraly in a town with over 30k pop.
And even when i am at the farm why should i not have access to proper internet? Me and may others make the food you eat show some respect.
As for starlink my brother got it sure its fast but the ping is around 200-250 on a good day.
@@phalanx3803 I guess the govt could do FTTP to every property in australia. I would wonder how much that would cost. Properties on the outskirts of towns have missed out.
@phalanx3803 NBN are working on improving Fixed Wireless.They are rolling out a new V4 antenna that will give you a definite 75/10 (not the old "up to" stuff) using 5G - they are expecting to release a 100/20 on there soon. If you want to get in touch we can check to see if we can get this done for you. I had my FW upgraded and I am now getting around 110/8. Yeah it's not the same as FTTP, but it is getting better!
Interesting that they are heading for 2Gb (pls stop referring to it as 2,000Mb), hopefully this may have a beneficial effect on the lower end where I am, as in raise the minimum from 25Mb, or better still, make it cheaper.
What is going on with your eyes!?
lovely 2gbps when i cant get more than 100mbps right now
Good luck with the 2gbos...
lauuntel expensive af lol
Cheaper than abb
useless to me, they should of made all Australia fiber
The copper wire will explode
1gbps upload coming in 2100