Awesome! Im glad it is not a single shot anymore. Still don't want to go through all that for the gun to shoot well. Excellent vid bud, glad to see you enjoying the 1911 10mm.
I think the biggest problem with Kimber 10mm semi autos is not the pistol but the ammo. All the target ammo is junk under powered and basically 40 S&W. The problem comes with the huge difference in shooting quality when you switch to an actually 10mm self defense round that is more powerful. It makes changing recoil springs to accommodate your pistol ammo more prudent. Ive had to do the same thing with 9mm 1911s.
Here’s one for ya, my custom II 10mm I can load .40 cal from dropping the slide release, but I can’t load it like that with 10mm rounds. It also shoots both flawlessly. With 3 different kinds of mags. Seems like Kimber’s quality control is all over the place, because all these different functioning pistols with weird quirks means stuff is out of spec. For a high end pistol company they need to fix it.
I had one. I love how it looks how it feels. It’s a beautiful 10mm and I put 800 rounds through it . Failure to feed each mag. I sent to kimber it was an easy process. They returned it and still jammed. I had to make the difficult decision of replacing it with a Glock. Very unreliable for me. It’s basically useless if you take camping/hiking.
Great video thank you for sharing I been thinking of buying this kimber 1911 10mm but I seen a lot of videos on TH-cam with the same feeding problems and here in california that 1911 is around 1,500 and to have those issues I think it's not worth it I have 600 dollars 1911's and they work perfectly.
That's my feeling as well. I have a couple of Tisas and a RIA 10mm. They are 100% reliable with a wide variety of ammo types, just like my Sig P220 10mm Legion. Not one failure even from the first round fired at the range. That said, I'm not a fan of the RIA because of fit/finish/trigger feel, etc. But it's a reliable gun at least. Why can't Kimber do that?
Love my Magnum Research 10mm. I’ve had hell with my Kimber Eclipse. Tired of sending it back to Kimber. I just wish I could get my money back. It’s accurate when it shoots.
I have same gun and so far, not reliable. I also bought it for camping and hiking but don't trust it right now to do the job. Will have to stick to my Ruger GP100 for outdoor activities for now. Fail to feed every few rounds. Had two squib incident on two different occassions after only about 50 rounds with two different brand of ammo (Sig and Grizzly). Is it the gun or ammo? Dunno. Yes, still new, break-in period, etc.....Recently, l changed the grip to slim grip to get a better grip, changed kimber 18.5# recoil spring to wilson combat 22#, and polised the ramp, etc. Last range, better results. Three mags with only one FTF using Ammo Inc. 180gr FMJ. I will continue to break it in and see what happens.
I had the same issue with my 10 when I first bought it it would not battery one out of every mag you had to help it started listening and reading pretty much it was 7 to 800 rounds for break-in I mean the gun was tight and true to form ride around 800 round she started cycling by 900 no problem up to 3,000 rounds not a single problem one thing I'm impressed with there was absolutely never one time did it stovepipe I was impressed I really love the pistol but it is a man's pistol you have to hang on to it my son can't shoot it it will not cycle for a little arm it's a man's gun you have to hold it like a man other than that I think it's an excellent pistol
Mine worked flawlessly through 100 rounds of Blazer 180 grn right after pickup, kinda. Because of Big Ed and the other gun tubers, I swapped out the recoil spring from an 18.5 to a 20 lb, mainspring 21 lb to a 25 along with a metal housing, and the firing pin stop with a flat EGW. I guess 3rd times a charm since the last 2 SA 1911’s I owned we’re unreliable as Hell even past the break in period :/
Omg. So much problem. I have both block 20 and I just bought a kimber target 2 10mm. I am dreading it now. My block 20 has never jammed on me. Man, this video doesn't give me confidence
24 lb recoil spring should be OK. Kimber probably took it out. Those BB loads need heavy springs. You have to switch out springs when using Underwoods or BB.
Springfield way back early 2000 standard pistol…. Did not want to shoot, sent it back three times….. after the third they sent me a new one upgraded and it worked awesome, slightly off subject
I'm surprised you got ANY of the Buffalo Bore to cycle correctly with the Standard Recoil Spring. Even Buffalo Bore mentions that you need to put a heavier Recoil Spring in the firearm when shooting their ammo. I always keep a 22# Spring in my TRP Operator 10mm pistol, and switch back to the 18# Spring when I'm shooting standard ammo. You are beating the hell out of your frame if you don't have a heavier spring in there. It's also throwing your timing off.
When I see someone shoot cheap 10mm I see why there are problems and Kimbers mags a notoriously bad , underwoods Range ammo is all I shoot its not bad price, had the same issue right out of the box bought new metgars and Wilson's runs just fine... definitely a gripe I take with Kimber custom tle2 10mm owner, when you say you need a stiffer spring with weak ammo your compounding the problem
Yes! A set of recoil springs and the willingness to change them to match the load is mandatory. Those Underwood and Buffalo Bores are hot. I won't even shoot BBs in my revolvers. I only use Underwood's as "bear" loads. A 1911 is not a revolver and a 10 mm 1911 is not a 9 mm Glock.
About a week ago I got my in stock notification for this gun. Bought it. It wasn't cheap either. 2 hours later I saw the video this gentleman produced on how unreliable it is and cancelled the order. Put in notification for the SA Ronin 10mm. I have many 1911s and some came with feeding issues but were solved after 500 rounds or so. Ronin has no guide rod, maybe that's the problem. I will never buy gun I have to return for modification if my life has to rely on it. Thanks for the heads up.
@@biged7175 Still waiting for the notification. Ronin 10mm is hard to find right now. I did get a notification for the SA xde 10mm. Bought it instantly. Absolutely awesome. Can't wait for the Ronin.
Kimber is a great company. But my expectations with a $1500 gun are high and I was going to get this one for bear defense while in Montana and I guess I will have to revert to a Glock 20 since I live in Commifornia and the selection and availability of 10mm is slim to say the least. Kimber was what I wanted though but not after this review. Good customer service or not, life on the line in the woods won't mean shit if the damn gun doesn't work.
I wouldn't go with the G20 because of the trigger and odd ball grip angle. Personally I'd prefer a P220 10mm, or even a Tisas 1911 10mm. My Tisas has been completely reliable, and it's cheap.
Hey guys, Just purchased this same gun Kimber Custom II in 10mm.....had issues my first 50 rounds (Sig Sauer 180 grain)...Federal ran ok....do i need a New Recoil Spring????
I'm disappointed. I'm looking at picking up a Kimber 10mm for something different, but had some misgivings based on Kimber's history of unreliability. This video doesn't help that reputation at all. Even after coming back from being fixed there are still multiple misfires. I have two cheap Tisas 10mm pistols, and an RIA 10mm, with literally zero failures of any kind with a wide variety of ammo. I've put about 1500 rounds through all three guns and never had a problem. This includes 220 gr hard cast Buffalo Bore, JHPs, and different brands of target ammo. If I had more rounds through them I'd put them on par with my Sig P220 and P226 Legions. Kimber has some features I like, but if they can't build a gun that's reliable I have to look elsewhere.
Don’t get me wrong, get a Glock for woods carry. I have 10mm kimbers. Beautiful guns, but I wouldn’t bet my life on them…. Although mine have been very reliable.
Ignoring the greater practicality of the Glock 20 in favor of this Kimber is just about vanity. A 10MM is a tool for when shit gets scary in the woods, and trying to bump up views on your TH-cam channel because your gun is sexy doesn't help you when your tiny magazine runs dry and that fucker is still charging.
That's fair, and I agree if my life is on the line it needs to be 100% with my handloads/Hornady it is but I'm running lower on that stuff and have zero abilities to replenish my stock now, there's no ammo anywhere around me or primers. Watch my original video to see how bad it was, also this video I only used the worse ammo it hated. th-cam.com/video/OFvC_rv5fmg/w-d-xo.html
Excellent video, glad Kimber honored the warranty and the gun is meeting your satisfaction standard
Homer Kimber did a nice job, still needs a touch more break in.
I would love you see what happens once you put a stronger spring in. considering this exact setup - thanks for the video!
It's much better with the Wolf spring and heavier loads, here's the first review.
th-cam.com/video/OFvC_rv5fmg/w-d-xo.html
Awesome! Im glad it is not a single shot anymore. Still don't want to go through all that for the gun to shoot well.
Excellent vid bud, glad to see you enjoying the 1911 10mm.
If you can find one I'd buy the Springfield Ronin in a heartbeat, I'm looking for one.
@@biged7175 the Ronin sounds good, saw the vid by Sootch and it seems the gun was eating the rounds like there was no problem. Lol
@@biged7175 there is a Ronin by me for 769
@@StevenCharles-jp4du I'd buy it!
I think the biggest problem with Kimber 10mm semi autos is not the pistol but the ammo. All the target ammo is junk under powered and basically 40 S&W. The problem comes with the huge difference in shooting quality when you switch to an actually 10mm self defense round that is more powerful. It makes changing recoil springs to accommodate your pistol ammo more prudent. Ive had to do the same thing with 9mm 1911s.
I agree.
Yes, I understand that S&B is way under loaded.
Here’s one for ya, my custom II 10mm I can load .40 cal from dropping the slide release, but I can’t load it like that with 10mm rounds. It also shoots both flawlessly. With 3 different kinds of mags. Seems like Kimber’s quality control is all over the place, because all these different functioning pistols with weird quirks means stuff is out of spec. For a high end pistol company they need to fix it.
I just bought a new one yesterday. Hopefully it’ll behave itself and give me years of good service.
Cool Ed, good service from Kimber. That price was a steal👍
Yes I'm finally happy with them.
I had one. I love how it looks how it feels. It’s a beautiful 10mm and I put 800 rounds through it . Failure to feed each mag. I sent to kimber it was an easy process. They returned it and still jammed. I had to make the difficult decision of replacing it with a Glock. Very unreliable for me. It’s basically useless if you take camping/hiking.
Great video thank you for sharing I been thinking of buying this kimber 1911 10mm but I seen a lot of videos on TH-cam with the same feeding problems and here in california that 1911 is around 1,500 and to have those issues I think it's not worth it I have 600 dollars 1911's and they work perfectly.
I would pass on this Kimber I here the Springfield Ronin is solid.
That's my feeling as well. I have a couple of Tisas and a RIA 10mm. They are 100% reliable with a wide variety of ammo types, just like my Sig P220 10mm Legion. Not one failure even from the first round fired at the range.
That said, I'm not a fan of the RIA because of fit/finish/trigger feel, etc. But it's a reliable gun at least. Why can't Kimber do that?
Love my Magnum Research 10mm. I’ve had hell with my Kimber Eclipse. Tired of sending it back to Kimber. I just wish I could get my money back. It’s accurate when it shoots.
Exactly.I live in California as well and would love a 10mm in this platform, but kimber seems to be garbage.
Easy fix... Putting in a stronger recoil spring and a lighter hammer spring fixes any feeding issues 100% of the time on any of my 1911s.
I have same gun and so far, not reliable. I also bought it for camping and hiking but don't trust it right now to do the job. Will have to stick to my Ruger GP100 for outdoor activities for now.
Fail to feed every few rounds. Had two squib incident on two different occassions after only about 50 rounds with two different brand of ammo (Sig and Grizzly). Is it the gun or ammo? Dunno. Yes, still new, break-in period, etc.....Recently, l changed the grip to slim grip to get a better grip, changed kimber 18.5# recoil spring to wilson combat 22#, and polised the ramp, etc. Last range, better results. Three mags with only one FTF using Ammo Inc. 180gr FMJ. I will continue to break it in and see what happens.
I had the same issue with my 10 when I first bought it it would not battery one out of every mag you had to help it started listening and reading pretty much it was 7 to 800 rounds for break-in I mean the gun was tight and true to form ride around 800 round she started cycling by 900 no problem up to 3,000 rounds not a single problem one thing I'm impressed with there was absolutely never one time did it stovepipe I was impressed I really love the pistol but it is a man's pistol you have to hang on to it my son can't shoot it it will not cycle for a little arm it's a man's gun you have to hold it like a man other than that I think it's an excellent pistol
Mine worked flawlessly through 100 rounds of Blazer 180 grn right after pickup, kinda. Because of Big Ed and the other gun tubers, I swapped out the recoil spring from an 18.5 to a 20 lb, mainspring 21 lb to a 25 along with a metal housing, and the firing pin stop with a flat EGW. I guess 3rd times a charm since the last 2 SA 1911’s I owned we’re unreliable as Hell even past the break in period :/
The best thing about Kimber is, I don't own one
lol
Omg. So much problem. I have both block 20 and I just bought a kimber target 2 10mm. I am dreading it now.
My block 20 has never jammed on me. Man, this video doesn't give me confidence
24 lb recoil spring should be OK. Kimber probably took it out. Those BB loads need heavy springs. You have to switch out springs when using Underwoods or BB.
Springfield way back early 2000 standard pistol…. Did not want to shoot, sent it back three times….. after the third they sent me a new one upgraded and it worked awesome, slightly off subject
Good story, I'm also a fan of Springfield 1911's
I'm surprised you got ANY of the Buffalo Bore to cycle correctly with the Standard Recoil Spring. Even Buffalo Bore mentions that you need to put a heavier Recoil Spring in the firearm when shooting their ammo. I always keep a 22# Spring in my TRP Operator 10mm pistol, and switch back to the 18# Spring when I'm shooting standard ammo. You are beating the hell out of your frame if you don't have a heavier spring in there. It's also throwing your timing off.
Good call, i've got at Wolfe 23 Lbs recoil spring in place.
I do know modern 1911s have tight tolerances and the best mags are a must. Get Wilson Combat mags and you should see a big difference.
All my 1911's now have Wilson mags.
Stick with it; get it broken in and after a year or so, re-evaluate the dependability as a woods gun or carry.
With my hand loads, and other good quality ammo it seems to run fine if I stick with 180, 200 grains bullets.
When I see someone shoot cheap 10mm I see why there are problems and Kimbers mags a notoriously bad , underwoods Range ammo is all I shoot its not bad price, had the same issue right out of the box bought new metgars and Wilson's runs just fine... definitely a gripe I take with Kimber custom tle2 10mm owner, when you say you need a stiffer spring with weak ammo your compounding the problem
Kimber has great customer service... they do need better QC from the get go
10mm ammo varies from weakish 40 S&W level to buffalo Bore level. Tune your gun to the ammo being used,
Yes! A set of recoil springs and the willingness to change them to match the load is mandatory. Those Underwood and Buffalo Bores are hot. I won't even shoot BBs in my revolvers. I only use Underwood's as "bear" loads. A 1911 is not a revolver and a 10 mm 1911 is not a 9 mm Glock.
When a bear is chasing you there is no such thing as well enough... lol.
Good point lol, that why this guy still stays at home when I head into the woods.
About a week ago I got my in stock notification for this gun. Bought it. It wasn't cheap either. 2 hours later I saw the video this gentleman produced on how unreliable it is and cancelled the order. Put in notification for the SA Ronin 10mm. I have many 1911s and some came with feeding issues but were solved after 500 rounds or so. Ronin has no guide rod, maybe that's the problem. I will never buy gun I have to return for modification if my life has to rely on it.
Thanks for the heads up.
Good move I've looked at the Robin also, how's it been?
@@biged7175 Still waiting for the notification. Ronin 10mm is hard to find right now. I did get a notification for the SA xde 10mm. Bought it instantly. Absolutely awesome. Can't wait for the Ronin.
I just got one have not fired it. Thanks for the info
Your welcome hope it all goes well.
Kimber is a great company. But my expectations with a $1500 gun are high and I was going to get this one for bear defense while in Montana and I guess I will have to revert to a Glock 20 since I live in Commifornia and the selection and availability of 10mm is slim to say the least. Kimber was what I wanted though but not after this review. Good customer service or not, life on the line in the woods won't mean shit if the damn gun doesn't work.
I agree I'd go another route, Sringfield Ronin.......
I wouldn't go with the G20 because of the trigger and odd ball grip angle. Personally I'd prefer a P220 10mm, or even a Tisas 1911 10mm. My Tisas has been completely reliable, and it's cheap.
Look at Magnum Research 10mm. Mine runs flawlessly, wish I could say the same about my Kimber Eclipse!
Hey guys, Just purchased this same gun Kimber Custom II in 10mm.....had issues my first 50 rounds (Sig Sauer 180 grain)...Federal ran ok....do i need a New Recoil Spring????
All depends on how hot the 10mm your shooting is but i would say yes.
My Para 10mm hunter will shoot a mixed mag of 150 all the way up to 230gr Double tap ammo. with no issues
That's good stuff, I never ever see Para for sale in NY or VT.
@@biged7175 That is because Remington bought them and changed the name to Remington Hunter and then they went bankrupt.
I'm disappointed. I'm looking at picking up a Kimber 10mm for something different, but had some misgivings based on Kimber's history of unreliability. This video doesn't help that reputation at all. Even after coming back from being fixed there are still multiple misfires. I have two cheap Tisas 10mm pistols, and an RIA 10mm, with literally zero failures of any kind with a wide variety of ammo. I've put about 1500 rounds through all three guns and never had a problem. This includes 220 gr hard cast Buffalo Bore, JHPs, and different brands of target ammo. If I had more rounds through them I'd put them on par with my Sig P220 and P226 Legions.
Kimber has some features I like, but if they can't build a gun that's reliable I have to look elsewhere.
Sorry but I that's wise look at the P220 10mm
The Kimber default magazines are notorious for feeding and ejecting problems. Was that your problem in reality or did they ignore that fact.
Kimber mags added to the problem, Wilson mags helped a lot.
Don’t get me wrong, get a Glock for woods carry. I have 10mm kimbers. Beautiful guns, but I wouldn’t bet my life on them…. Although mine have been very reliable.
Lol that's so borring, I'll eventually pony up for a better 10mm 1911.
Thousand dollar gun with that many issues? Wow
Tell me I got it on sale two years ago for $571
Ignoring the greater practicality of the Glock 20 in favor of this Kimber is just about vanity. A 10MM is a tool for when shit gets scary in the woods, and trying to bump up views on your TH-cam channel because your gun is sexy doesn't help you when your tiny magazine runs dry and that fucker is still charging.
Well enough is not good enough when your life is on the line. Great video but I disagree with your assessment of pretty good ???
That's fair, and I agree if my life is on the line it needs to be 100% with my handloads/Hornady it is but I'm running lower on that stuff and have zero abilities to replenish my stock now, there's no ammo anywhere around me or primers. Watch my original video to see how bad it was, also this video I only used the worse ammo it hated.
th-cam.com/video/OFvC_rv5fmg/w-d-xo.html
Glock 20 with kkm precision barrel
A gun that doesnt cycle is useless, period.
Kimbers are waaaaay too expensive to not work properly.
I wouldnt trust that as your camping gun.
Got my custom2 with some shitty magazine, not kimber. Jams all the time, I hate it.
Buy Wilson Combat 10mm mags helps the problem greatly.
Nice gun but in mymind its still not reliable. That is unacceptable.
I agree but it runs fine with my handloads and Hornady ammo, the good stuff Lol. I used the worst ammo it hated for this second review.
Think you should load your own stop screwing around if you wsnt to shoot the heavy stuff buy a revolver