The Mahomes hate after 4 SB appearances 3 wins and 2 mvps is kind of infuriating. It’s like even if they won this year and did the 3peat it won’t be good enough for anyone who hates him, no matter what he does.
@@Anime2077yt they have to have something to talk about. He’s chasing Brady, they’re chasing Mahomes. He is the standard. No one has beat him when it matters, besides burrow. That was his biggest accomplishment. Not a Super Bowl appearance but a victory over the grim reaper Patty Mahomes!!!
No one hates him, you're just coping with reality. No grown person has the time to harbor spite towards a dude who they may never meet in real life, and only see for entertainment on tv. Pls stop coping and victim complexing at truth. No world of reality will say 2024 Mahomes is the best QB out of all 2024 QBs playing rn. That's pure denial and blind fandom. It's like Dolphin fans saying Tua was the best 2023 QB. If you want to see Mahomes worship go on, then I kindly suggest avoiding these WEEK TO WEEK and CURRENT SEASON RANKINGS videos alone. You can't both judge people based on their season, but Mahomes off his career just because you like seeing him on top. Give another QB his 11 or so picks, they would get SMASHED. It's simple common sense. Brady wasn't the best in every single year he played. There were times Aaron Rodgers outshone him (which btw if we're gonna judge ppl based of career, then Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, and Matthew Stafford should always be directly under Mahomes. And no one should be able to dethrone the top 2-5.)
@ okay you went and assumed a lot about me and then told me to cope about something I didn’t even say or hint at. Sounds like you have some pent up energy on this topic. I will simply retort with the stuff about "he isn’t playing very well this year", okay, but tell me what he does in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line, what are his ratings and stats then? He hasn’t thrown a pick in like 5 out of 6 games now & he had one Hail Mary pick vs the bills in the loss. To use the interceptions argument against him at this point in the season is dumb, and he usually doesn’t throw picks late, it’s always a dumb pick early in the game that he can and does recover from. But yeah 4th q stats speak for themselves. I mean they’re 13-1 & at least 9 of the wins are because he’s their QB.
@@Anime2077yt TL;DR at the end. You clearly started preaching about how "Mahomes hate" because of his past accolades. "The Mahomes hate after 4 SB appearances 3 wins and 2 mvps is kind of infuriating." That's what I said cope about, so you're contradicting yourself when you say, "I never said or even hinted at". Idk if you just typed that up or what. Second, what there is no evidence for is "pent up energy". A projection/deflection to distract from the facts. If anything, you have an emotional response to this topic because you used the word "infuriating" which is directly tied to emotion. Third, yeah he clearly said himself he's not playing his best. So idk why Mahomes fans want to go against what the man said himself on live tv. Fourth, 4th quarter perfomances? Seriously? You know how subjective that can be taken? 4th quarter perfomances is not even a QB stat. And who cares about that when Josh Allen is outstanding ALL 4 quarters. In fact, he plays so good that he gets to sit out the 4th quarter. He's not top 10 in anything. So taking a miniscule portion of the game out of context to prove a point, when all the evidence points the opposite direction won't help you. You know very well football is looked as a whole, not in pieces. Fifth, since when as long a football existed did we ignore picks in the same season for any reason? A pick is a pick. Heck Josh Allen & Lamar still facing shade for the INTs they threw last year! Oh I forgot, its Patrick Mahomes... Sixth, 6 games we're decisively without any Mahomes magic. They beat Baltimore by a toe, beat Burrow by a phantom PI, beat Broncos by a horribly aimed field goal, beat Falcons by a clear as day PI not being called, beat the Raiders by the Raiders finding every way to lose and messing up a fg, beat the Chargers cuz they Chargers own special team couldn't get their own blocked punt. They're other games have mostly been on the defense. Patrick got outplayed more than he outplayed others. Heck, the backup Raiders QB outplayed Mahomes XD. TL;DR - You did hint at Mahomes "hate" which I said was a cope - You're the one having pent up energy - Mahomes himself said he's not playing well - Football is judged within the context of the whole game. A QB isn't #1 by some abstract subjective measure. - PM isn't top tier in anything this season - A pick is a pick and has always been a pick, just like it's always been for every other QB - At least 6 games this season were won completely independent of Patrick Mahomes.
@ you’re telling me having a record above.500 when trailing in the 4th quarter isn’t a qb stat? The next best record is at .380. He has a record above.500 when trailing by 10+ at any point in the game, no one else is even close. And what has he done all year long when he gets the ball last… does he turn it over? No does he make plays to win the game? Yes Who else do you want as your QB if it’s a tie game with 2 minutes left, or even if they’re down by one possession. If your answer isn’t Mahomes then you’re not a serious person
It’s not a debate. Brady wasn’t the best every single year he played, is Josh playing better? Yes, is Lamar? Yes, is Burrow? Yes. Doesn’t mean they are better. By that metric, Darnold is better, Baker is better. People can have better statistical seasons but doesn’t mean they’re better. Sam Howell lead the league in passing yards through the first 10 weeks last season but where is he now? Mahomes is doing more with less, you put any other QB on the chiefs right now and they’re not 13-1. Burrow has Chase & Higgins. Lamar has Henry, Andrews, Bateman, & Zay, & a great Oline. Allen has one of the BEST olines in all of football, and a great running game. Two great tight ends. It’s not a debate & now cooper. Mahomes is the best quarterback in the world, and honestly it’s been that way since he’s been in the league.
Lamar has henry, everyone else is mid and is improved by Lamar. O-line is not even an argument. Hate when ppl glaze the Ravens weaponry to discredit Lamar, then they talk down their own fav QBs team, to lift up their QB. Brady is te best in the world, been to more SBs inhis 20+ yrs than he hasn't. And his has LONGEVITY. Few times if ever Brady got a Tyreek-caliber WR. Kelce is arguably on the same if not better than Gronk. Defense and other teams mistakes is carrying the team rn. Allen has surpassed Mahomes statistically for the pass 3-ish years. Burrow has a winning record against Mahomes.
@RrRookiEeE Lamar has two first round recievers in Bateman & Flowers. Josh had a better season last year and this year, 2022 Mahomes won a SB, SB MVP, Reg season MVP, and broke a record for total yards in a season. Mahomes beat Allen and Lamar in the playoffs last year to win his 3rd Super Bowl. So, your point doesn’t make any sense. Mahomes is working with a lot less than what Lamar, Allen, & Burrow are and they’re still winning games. All Pat has is Kelce who has definetly declined.
@@Chiefs007 First round? And? I like how you ignored their record and only relied on their drafting. Bateman has just started giving us some of our money's worth since more than 5yrs+ of absolutely nothingness/injuries. He's even gotten hurt this year. Flowers is very new, he's fun to watch, but statistically he's not even a top 20 WR as of yet. The argument you have against Allen is FAR weaker than even my guy Mahomes. This year Allen is playing FAR better and doesn't need penalties and opponent screw ups to win and he outplayed him last year. So we can ride off of 2 yrs ago, but Allen has earned his stripes. Only reason Allen lost is because his D last year couldn't stop Mahomes for the 13 seconds left. Not allens fault. And all Pat has is Kelce? Why are you downplaying you're own team?? And bolstering other nonqb players of other teams? Kelce has consistently outperformed #1 WRs, and is still the best TE overall, and its not even close. He supposedly had a "down year" last year, and he still was high in the receiving stat charts for WR & TE's. (We're gonna ignore D Hopkins for this current season) He has the Flash on his team, and even had Rice-pre injury. Bro has thrown more picks then Lamar has this year and last year combined. Last year, Kelce wasn't a problem, def not a problem in 2022. We're not gonna ignore his D either which is worse than Ravens but BETTER than Allens in 2022-23. Now his D is better than both. Chiefs fans (which ur username proves all I need to know) have a weird tendency to use Mahomes career to justify his CURRENT SEASON performance. But every other QB is judged only on their current season. Chiefs fans also pretend the Cheifs are not made up of 35+ other offense, defense, and special teams (and even the refs arguably), that contribute to their win. They want to pretend its allll patrick.
I agree a QB with Mahomes resume gets to have a pass for the regular season when he's back to back Super Bowl champ. BUT that pass can only be extended if he keeps playing well in the playoffs and has team success in playoffs. Mahomes hasn't had a great regular season since 2022. If he loses early in the playoffs this year and has another subpar for all time great QB regular season next year, it's more than fair to say that his title for best QB In the NFL should be up for grabs by 2025 if Lamar/Allen broke through. Especially if Lamar broke threw because he already has 2 MVPs like Mahomes. IF he surpassed Mahomes in MVPs and had 3 better regular seasons and 2 better postseasons in a row than Mahomes, Pat couldn't live off past anymore in terms of current rankings.
Don’t understand why ppl try to elevate Allen so much. He’s having a better year that’s it, he’s not better than 15 . When kupp won the triple crown I don’t remember anyone calling JJ The best WR over Jefferson so why do we do it with Josh. No one said it last year when Lamar won MVP but all of a sudden JOSH is suppose to be the best QB and he’s not even having the best year QB wise
I Guarantee you if mahomes did the exact same thing on another team this year stats and records wise he wouldn't even have him as a top 3qb yet alone as the best
In the past, Chiefs had better team and 2nd half they were playing better and win the PO games. Allen is better and play smart, RBs are very productive OLine does hold opponents well and Allen has great escape ability. So we see the gap shrinking but I don’t like Bills kicker and Head Coach that can be difference maker.
The Falcons Franchise really outdid themselves this time. As a 35 Year Fan i've seen some really bad moves but this one takes the cake. The best example of 2 alternate worlds with similar situations is how Tampa Bay whos had a similar season with a QB that people wanted to give up on who lost 2 games against Atlanta & Kirk Cousins in 3 weeks to not panic & stay the course & move 1 game ahead of the Falcons. This is embarrassing & to add insult to injury they pulled this stunt after ending the losing streak.
Check the stats and try again. Allen did all he could. He either left the field with the lead or about to take the lead or tie and never saw the ball again
That's what it is today. ALlen 5-5, Lamar 2-4. But a lot can change between now and the end of next season. Over the next year and a couple weeks if Mahomes no longer makes deep playoff runs the pass he gets for subpar regular seasons would go away. And if Allen/Lamar is back to back champ they are taking that crown from Mahomes.
Asking the ultimate Chiefs homer whos better and watching him melt down trying to wrap his mind around the fact that Josh Allen is clearly better this year. Does Nick work for the Chiefs?
Nick has stated like 1000 times that he knows Josh Allen is playing better this year. He said that's not up for debate. The debate is people all of a sudden saying he's better than Mahomes in general. Which as the past shows, is just untrue.
@@DreammasterFTW Nick says that and then he has to throw in some barb against the BIlls at the last second and hangs one of his banners. Hey I watch his show and I think he's really smart, but it's obvious he can't handle that Mahomes isn't always the best, case in point no one ever is on top of Mahomes Mt but Mahomes even when he clearly didn't play very well.
@@arndtbc Mahomes is better than everyone by a mile, just bc someone has a better season doesn’t mean they’re better. Baker and Sam Darnold statistically are having a better season, stats wise. But who has the better record than everyone quarterback? Mahomes. We got horrible tackles and lost our whole offense bc of injury and been battling that all year.
Nick just got done saying that he's a guy who argues that wins are a team stat but then he uses wins to say that josh Allen isn't comparable to Patrick Mahomes as the best talent in the league 😅
9:50 I was with you until here. Josh Allen gets no credit for the loss to Mahomes in the playoffs, even though he should. Playoff losses are the reason everyone rags on him.
These 'debates' are ridiculous. All of these top 4 or 5 QBS are excellent in their own ways with strengths and weaknesses. These clowns just gotta post some click bait for views.
If we'd have picked Verse at 8, where would that out us in this 1-4 game stretch? Questioning the QB position right. Or if kirk would've gotten hurt, same position. Anything can be questioned but should everything be at every opportunity?
Tom Brady, still the standard for QBs (I was no Pats fan), dominated the NFL for a decade but won the MVP 3 times -- voters didn't just automatically give him that trophy every season, as Nick W. would obviously do for his godly Mahomes, an insult to all the other great players in the league.
Not really, Brady didnt dominate the regular season every year, Peyton and Rodgers won more MVP than Brady is correct. Its the playoffs that Brady buidling his legend and Mahomes is going through the same thing.
You got that backwards..if Mahomes was Buffalo's quarterback they would of already won at least 2 Super Bowls!! Mahomes is on another level than anyone playing!!!
Sorry, but as bad as the Chiefs D was until last year they would not have won the SB with Josh turning the ball over 2-3 times a game. You are dead wrong.
Everyone is talking about how bad Burrow’s D is this year and is giving him a pass. Pat went to 3 SB and won two with a D just like that. Mahomes is #1 and it’s not even close.
nick is too defensive. be objective. no one other than chiefs fans right now would start their franchise with mahomes over allen. the latter has reached super sayan status. there is nothing mahomes can do that allen can't. there are a dozen things allen can do that mahomes could only dream of. what gets watered down is that they're both great. one has all the accolades. the other is the superior talent. it's ok to live in this world.
Thats not how it was discussed when it comes to Tom Brady, hes the GOAT because he won all those SB despite not having the most talent as a QB. And other than the Bills, you think other team would prefer Josh Allen over Mahomes? Where is that coming from?
Patrick/Josh Games: 106/105 AV: 109/92 Record: 83-23/72-32 Cmp%: 66.7/63.3 Pass Yds: 30,828/25,246 Pass y/a: 7.8/7.2 Pass y/g: 290.8/240.4 Pass TD: 234/185 INT: 74/83 Rate: 102.3/92.8 Championships: 3/0 Pro Bowl: 6/2 All Pro: 3/1 MVP: 2/0 Off POY: 1/0 SB MVP: 3/0 If Josh was a better QB than Mahomes, wouldn't he lead in at least one statistical category or accolade? 64.4 comp %, 243 yds/gm, 1.79 TD per game, 1.2 int %, 10.9 first downs p/g, 8.0 y/a, 103.5 rating, .14 game winning drives 66.5 comp %, 289 yds/gm, 2.19 TD per game, .67 int%, 14.4 first downs p/g, 7.8 y/a, 102 rating, .21 game winning drives The first is Josh in 2024. The second is Patrick's average for his career 💀 Josh's best year doesn't EVEN TOUCH Mahomes career average and we're having this conversation? Only the casuals are having this conversation.
You really pulled the most obscure stats like TD per game and INT percentage, to benefit Pat, even though he has less touchdowns and more interceptions than Josh 😂
@@rcdesigns guarantee by the time the season finishes, Patrick’s averages are going to be lower because of this garbage season. All I know is that Josh has the most touchdowns since he entered the league. He’s more of an offensive weapon as a whole.
@JackRice007 right, he conveniently leaves out anything to do with rushing, because that's where he dominates any other qb. And then goes on to say if Josh was comparable to Mahomes he would lead in at least one statistical category.....well sure, if you're gonna cherry pick the stats Mahomes is better in, then yes, Allen won't have better stats in any category mentioned.
@@mikep3813 lol that's not cherry picked stats bud. That's all the stats we judge QB's by in totality. When it comes to being a runner in the most important time (the playoffs) the difference is negligible. "Josh has 83 rushing attempts in the playoffs with 563 yards and 37 first downs. Patrick has 90 attempts with 524 yards for 36 first downs. Isn't quite the disparity Josh Allen Stan's want to lead you to believe" You can choose to deny reality, that's you prerogative.
In the playoffs, with the game on the line, KC will win, cause everyone steps up especially Mahomes. I already know it’s gonna be Chiefs-Bills AFC championship game the number 1 & 2 seeds going at again. let’s goooo Chiefs!!!!
Do you wanna know what no one else is talking about? Of the Bill's 11 wins, only 3 of them are above .500. Their losses are to the Ravens, Texans, and Rams. The only wins they have against teams above .500 are Seahawks, a depleted Kansas City (before Pacheco, Omenihu, or any of the major injuries have come back), and the depleted Lions. That matters. It really does. Yet, Josh Allen has dethroned Mahomes as the best QB in football before the regular season has ended. This reminds me of the Peyton and Brady debate. Peyton killed it in the regular season and crapped the bed in the playoffs. While Brady and the Pat's did whatever they needed to win games and were next level in the postseason. Peyton only beat Brady once or twice in the postseason. And it is absolutely clear, after the fact. It wasn't even a competition, Brady was head and shoulders above Manning. Yet here we are again, Mahomes has beat Allen every single time they have matched up in the playoffs and has 3 rings to Allen's 0. What are we even talking about? Is Allen having a better statistical year? Yes, absolutely. Does that make him tge better QB? Absolutely not. Come on.
No one is saying he's the better career-wise QB. People are saying that he's not the 2024 best QB. In fact I would even go so far as to say the best QB of that year usually would be in the top 3 MVP conversation. Mahomes fans get but hurt when we don't worship their fav QB in all aspects and areas.
@therealbeedubbs35 Wrong. We have 4 wins against teams with winning records. The Ravens, Chargers twice, and the Broncos. Get your facts straight before you make a fool of yourself.
@arndtbc What? Where did I say that Mahomes has played better than Allen this year? Ahh, I get it. Get called out for being wrong, build a strawman, and beat that up. Classic logical fallacy used by those losing the argument.
It's not the bills Mafia or especially the players saying these things. Josh in particular has tried all year to stay focused on what we haven't been able to do. Best the chiefs in the playoffs . The division and the lions/chiefs wins were nice but until the clock hits zero with the bills over the chiefs it's a movie we've seen before
@rich9277 they won't have to. Bills scoring 30 and eagles scoring 35 2 years ago are the only times teams have scored over 29. Lions have run up the score and have 22 people on IR to show for it 😆
Couldnt agree more with NW.......dont care how great of a season other QBs are having.....dont become a prisoner of the moment.....if any player and team deserves the benefit of doubt its Patrick Mahomes and the KC.....,..It isn't close between Patrick Mahomes any all other QBs....
Allen’s been the best for awhile now. The record books are starting to catch up to the tape. Mahomes has had better postseason team play. Chiefs have been a better postseason team than the Bills of late. When the Bills play Super Bowl worthy football in all three phases in the postseason, they’ll make it all the way and win it. And congrats to my Coach of the Year who just joined Landry, Dungy, Belichick, and Reid with five straight seasons with 11+ wins - Coach McDermott!!! GO BILLS 🔵🔴 Allen’s MVP
This is "sports talk" at its worst -- these stupid debates, same ones every season -- instead of appreciating the great athletic talent of both Allen and Mahomes, also Lamar and Burrow and Hurts and Goff etc., these media hacks have to create these artificial controversies. And there's the childish Chiefs fanboy N. Wright making a fool of himself again.
I wonder why,people can't see that Mahomes is in a bad offence,with terrible scheme and terrible play calling, people are letting Andy Reid off the hook,how can u have the best QB in the NFL,and make is stats take a terrible decline,and act like their is no concern, I'm wondering if their trying to ruin is legacy.
What is there to debate?3 Super Bowl wins six straight AFC championship games Mahomes is a closer in the playoffs. Josh Allen isn't ,so what is there to debate?
The same crew was voting Josh Allen the most overrated QB. Everyone just wants to be the first with a hot take -how about we wait till the season is over?! It’s also a team sport if Josh Allen was drafted by the chiefs and the Bills drafted Mahomes I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t be crowing Mahomes…AND IM DEFINITELY SURE NICK WOULDN’T BE.
We’re talking about the current season Nick. You’ve been right on the Bills the whole time. Josh and Patrick don’t play against each other. Josh has done his part against the chiefs in the playoffs twice and defense/special teams let him down
In the 3 playoff games they've played, Josh has 81 cmp on 124 att. 43 incompletions. 65% comp. Patrick is 79/105. 26 incompletions. 75% comp. Josh has 802 yds, Pat has 918. Josh 7TD/1INT. Pretty good. Pat has 8 and 0. Josh rating is 98.9, Patrick is 126.6. Josh been sacked 6 times for 69 yards, Pat has been sacked 3 times for 8 yards. Josh has 6.5 y/a, Patrick has 8.7. Pat leads in every statistical category. The 13 second game both played great, the difference was Pat was facing the number one defense. Bills D was number one in points, number one in yards, number one in first downs, number one in passing yards, number one in passing touchdowns, and Patrick torched them. Chiefs D was 27th in yards, 24th in 1D, 27th in passing yards, 21st in rush yards, 31st in rush yards per attempt, last in yards per drive. I bet everyone that says "Joshs defense let him down" doesn't keep that same energy when discussing Mahomes/Brady.
@rcdesigns in 3 playoff games the Bills #1 RB has combined for 34 carries for 104 yards. Chiefs #1 RB has combined for 35 carries for 209 yards. Allen has had to be a one man show vs KC. Mahomes has had support every single game. A competent run game makes a QBs job 10 times easier.
The debate is ridiculous. Josh Allen is the most talented QB. People that don’t understand football will say it’s Mahomes. People that know football will say it’s Mahomes. People that take the trophies out of the conversation and look at over all talent know it’s Josh Allen. If Josh Allen had Andy Reid as his HC and even Kelce in his developmental years do you think he would have won multiple championships? Of course he would. This is me as a Bills fan saying Allen is more talented than Mahomes but KC coaching has been far superior. Our coaching staff is also developing where Any Reid got his star QB in his own coaching prime. Reid is also an offensive HQ that calls plays. Look at how Josh Allen has matched Mahomes year after year in the playoffs with a revolving door of OCs and a defensive HQ. I can admit that KC overall has been the better coached team… can you admit that if Allen had Andy Reid as his play caller/HC with Spags as the DC that KC would be even more unstoppable? Your O line sucks this. Bills O line is awesome this year. I guarantee you that if Josh Allen was you QB your O-line wouldn’t look as bad as it does right now. Nick Wright is just a homer.
Has that been true of a single playoff game they’ve met in? Has Allen been better than Patrick? I’ll hang up and listen. This MVP season of his will be not even in the top 3 of what Patrick has done in various seasons 😂
Idiots and drunk Bills fans are the only people who think Josh is better. Patrick/Josh Games: 106/105 AV: 109/92 Record: 83-23/72-32 Cmp%: 66.7/63.3 Pass Yds: 30,828/25,246 Pass y/a: 7.8/7.2 Pass y/g: 290.8/240.4 Pass TD: 234/185 INT: 74/83 Rate: 102.3/92.8 Championships: 3/0 Pro Bowl: 6/2 All Pro: 3/1 MVP: 2/0 Off POY: 1/0 SB MVP: 3/0. If Josh was a better QB than Mahomes, wouldn't he lead in at least one statistical category or accolade? In the 3 playoff games they've played, Josh has 81 cmp on 124 att. 43 incompletions. 65% comp. Patrick is 79/105. 26 incompletions. 75% comp. Josh has 802 yds, Pat has 918. Josh 7TD/1INT. Pretty good. Pat has 8 and 0. Josh rating is 98.9, Patrick is 126.6. Josh been sacked 6 times for 69 yards, Pat has been sacked 3 times for 8 yards. Josh has 6.5 y/a, Patrick has 8.7. Pat leads in every statistical category. Shocker. 64.4 comp %, 243 yds/gm, 1.79 TD per game, 1.2 int %, 10.9 first downs p/g, 8.0 y/a, 103.5 rating, .14 game winning drives 66.5 comp %, 289 yds/gm, 2.19 TD per game, .67 int %, 14.4 first downs p/g, 7.8 y/a, 102 rating, .21 game winning drives The first is Josh in 2024. The second is Patrick's average for his career 💀 Josh's best year doesn't EVEN TOUCH Mahomes career average and we're having this conversation? Only the casuals are having this conversation.
Nick have you seen the Chiefs play this season? They should legitimately be 8 and 6 right now. Btw Mahomes can't even throw a long ball without overthrowing it by 20 feet. Wake up.
@@Zarkmoneybags of those13 wins, if Isiah Likely pulls his foot 2inches in that win isnt guaranteed, if the refs dont throw a flag against Cincinnati thats a loss, if the dubious call is not made against the the raiders thats a potential loss, if you dont win the coin toss against the bucs thats a potential loss, the broncos excute better kick the field goal thats a loss, justin herbert doesnt get injured thats not a guaranteed win. obvs football anything can happen but in a lot of these games the chiefs won because of something that is out of their own control and to bank on the power of good fortune going into the playoffs has never been a super strtegey.
The Mahomes hate after 4 SB appearances 3 wins and 2 mvps is kind of infuriating. It’s like even if they won this year and did the 3peat it won’t be good enough for anyone who hates him, no matter what he does.
@@Anime2077yt they have to have something to talk about. He’s chasing Brady, they’re chasing Mahomes. He is the standard. No one has beat him when it matters, besides burrow. That was his biggest accomplishment. Not a Super Bowl appearance but a victory over the grim reaper Patty Mahomes!!!
No one hates him, you're just coping with reality. No grown person has the time to harbor spite towards a dude who they may never meet in real life, and only see for entertainment on tv. Pls stop coping and victim complexing at truth.
No world of reality will say 2024 Mahomes is the best QB out of all 2024 QBs playing rn. That's pure denial and blind fandom. It's like Dolphin fans saying Tua was the best 2023 QB.
If you want to see Mahomes worship go on, then I kindly suggest avoiding these WEEK TO WEEK and CURRENT SEASON RANKINGS videos alone. You can't both judge people based on their season, but Mahomes off his career just because you like seeing him on top.
Give another QB his 11 or so picks, they would get SMASHED. It's simple common sense.
Brady wasn't the best in every single year he played. There were times Aaron Rodgers outshone him (which btw if we're gonna judge ppl based of career, then Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, and Matthew Stafford should always be directly under Mahomes. And no one should be able to dethrone the top 2-5.)
@ okay you went and assumed a lot about me and then told me to cope about something I didn’t even say or hint at. Sounds like you have some pent up energy on this topic.
I will simply retort with the stuff about "he isn’t playing very well this year", okay, but tell me what he does in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line, what are his ratings and stats then? He hasn’t thrown a pick in like 5 out of 6 games now & he had one Hail Mary pick vs the bills in the loss. To use the interceptions argument against him at this point in the season is dumb, and he usually doesn’t throw picks late, it’s always a dumb pick early in the game that he can and does recover from.
But yeah 4th q stats speak for themselves. I mean they’re 13-1 & at least 9 of the wins are because he’s their QB.
@@Anime2077yt TL;DR at the end.
You clearly started preaching about how "Mahomes hate" because of his past accolades. "The Mahomes hate after 4 SB appearances 3 wins and 2 mvps is kind of infuriating." That's what I said cope about, so you're contradicting yourself when you say, "I never said or even hinted at".
Idk if you just typed that up or what.
Second, what there is no evidence for is "pent up energy". A projection/deflection to distract from the facts. If anything, you have an emotional response to this topic because you used the word "infuriating" which is directly tied to emotion.
Third, yeah he clearly said himself he's not playing his best. So idk why Mahomes fans want to go against what the man said himself on live tv.
Fourth, 4th quarter perfomances? Seriously? You know how subjective that can be taken? 4th quarter perfomances is not even a QB stat. And who cares about that when Josh Allen is outstanding ALL 4 quarters. In fact, he plays so good that he gets to sit out the 4th quarter.
He's not top 10 in anything. So taking a miniscule portion of the game out of context to prove a point, when all the evidence points the opposite direction won't help you. You know very well football is looked as a whole, not in pieces.
Fifth, since when as long a football existed did we ignore picks in the same season for any reason? A pick is a pick. Heck Josh Allen & Lamar still facing shade for the INTs they threw last year! Oh I forgot, its Patrick Mahomes...
Sixth, 6 games we're decisively without any Mahomes magic. They beat Baltimore by a toe, beat Burrow by a phantom PI, beat Broncos by a horribly aimed field goal, beat Falcons by a clear as day PI not being called, beat the Raiders by the Raiders finding every way to lose and messing up a fg, beat the Chargers cuz they Chargers own special team couldn't get their own blocked punt.
They're other games have mostly been on the defense. Patrick got outplayed more than he outplayed others. Heck, the backup Raiders QB outplayed Mahomes XD.
TL;DR
- You did hint at Mahomes "hate" which I said was a cope
- You're the one having pent up energy
- Mahomes himself said he's not playing well
- Football is judged within the context of the whole game. A QB isn't #1 by some abstract subjective measure.
- PM isn't top tier in anything this season
- A pick is a pick and has always been a pick, just like it's always been for every other QB
- At least 6 games this season were won completely independent of Patrick Mahomes.
@ you’re telling me having a record above.500 when trailing in the 4th quarter isn’t a qb stat? The next best record is at .380. He has a record above.500 when trailing by 10+ at any point in the game, no one else is even close.
And what has he done all year long when he gets the ball last… does he turn it over? No does he make plays to win the game? Yes
Who else do you want as your QB if it’s a tie game with 2 minutes left, or even if they’re down by one possession.
If your answer isn’t Mahomes then you’re not a serious person
It’s not a debate. Brady wasn’t the best every single year he played, is Josh playing better? Yes, is Lamar? Yes, is Burrow? Yes. Doesn’t mean they are better. By that metric, Darnold is better, Baker is better. People can have better statistical seasons but doesn’t mean they’re better. Sam Howell lead the league in passing yards through the first 10 weeks last season but where is he now? Mahomes is doing more with less, you put any other QB on the chiefs right now and they’re not 13-1. Burrow has Chase & Higgins. Lamar has Henry, Andrews, Bateman, & Zay, & a great Oline. Allen has one of the BEST olines in all of football, and a great running game. Two great tight ends. It’s not a debate & now cooper. Mahomes is the best quarterback in the world, and honestly it’s been that way since he’s been in the league.
Lamar has henry, everyone else is mid and is improved by Lamar. O-line is not even an argument. Hate when ppl glaze the Ravens weaponry to discredit Lamar, then they talk down their own fav QBs team, to lift up their QB.
Brady is te best in the world, been to more SBs inhis 20+ yrs than he hasn't. And his has LONGEVITY. Few times if ever Brady got a Tyreek-caliber WR. Kelce is arguably on the same if not better than Gronk. Defense and other teams mistakes is carrying the team rn.
Allen has surpassed Mahomes statistically for the pass 3-ish years. Burrow has a winning record against Mahomes.
@RrRookiEeE Lamar has two first round recievers in Bateman & Flowers. Josh had a better season last year and this year, 2022 Mahomes won a SB, SB MVP, Reg season MVP, and broke a record for total yards in a season. Mahomes beat Allen and Lamar in the playoffs last year to win his 3rd Super Bowl. So, your point doesn’t make any sense. Mahomes is working with a lot less than what Lamar, Allen, & Burrow are and they’re still winning games. All Pat has is Kelce who has definetly declined.
9.5/10
@@Chiefs007 First round? And? I like how you ignored their record and only relied on their drafting.
Bateman has just started giving us some of our money's worth since more than 5yrs+ of absolutely nothingness/injuries. He's even gotten hurt this year.
Flowers is very new, he's fun to watch, but statistically he's not even a top 20 WR as of yet.
The argument you have against Allen is FAR weaker than even my guy Mahomes. This year Allen is playing FAR better and doesn't need penalties and opponent screw ups to win and he outplayed him last year. So we can ride off of 2 yrs ago, but Allen has earned his stripes. Only reason Allen lost is because his D last year couldn't stop Mahomes for the 13 seconds left. Not allens fault.
And all Pat has is Kelce? Why are you downplaying you're own team?? And bolstering other nonqb players of other teams? Kelce has consistently outperformed #1 WRs, and is still the best TE overall, and its not even close. He supposedly had a "down year" last year, and he still was high in the receiving stat charts for WR & TE's. (We're gonna ignore D Hopkins for this current season)
He has the Flash on his team, and even had Rice-pre injury. Bro has thrown more picks then Lamar has this year and last year combined. Last year, Kelce wasn't a problem, def not a problem in 2022. We're not gonna ignore his D either which is worse than Ravens but BETTER than Allens in 2022-23. Now his D is better than both.
Chiefs fans (which ur username proves all I need to know) have a weird tendency to use Mahomes career to justify his CURRENT SEASON performance. But every other QB is judged only on their current season.
Chiefs fans also pretend the Cheifs are not made up of 35+ other offense, defense, and special teams (and even the refs arguably), that contribute to their win. They want to pretend its allll patrick.
I agree a QB with Mahomes resume gets to have a pass for the regular season when he's back to back Super Bowl champ. BUT that pass can only be extended if he keeps playing well in the playoffs and has team success in playoffs. Mahomes hasn't had a great regular season since 2022. If he loses early in the playoffs this year and has another subpar for all time great QB regular season next year, it's more than fair to say that his title for best QB In the NFL should be up for grabs by 2025 if Lamar/Allen broke through. Especially if Lamar broke threw because he already has 2 MVPs like Mahomes. IF he surpassed Mahomes in MVPs and had 3 better regular seasons and 2 better postseasons in a row than Mahomes, Pat couldn't live off past anymore in terms of current rankings.
Don’t understand why ppl try to elevate Allen so much. He’s having a better year that’s it, he’s not better than 15 . When kupp won the triple crown I don’t remember anyone calling JJ
The best WR over Jefferson so why do we do it with Josh. No one said it last year when Lamar won MVP but all of a sudden JOSH is suppose to be the best QB and he’s not even having the best year QB wise
Chiefs Kingdom let's goooooo. We ain't worried about nothing at all. Have confidence
I Guarantee you if mahomes did the exact same thing on another team this year stats and records wise he wouldn't even have him as a top 3qb yet alone as the best
Nick Wright on an ESPN show ? Lol I would think FS1 wouldn’t allow that 😂
In the past, Chiefs had better team and 2nd half they were playing better and win the PO games. Allen is better and play smart, RBs are very productive OLine does hold opponents well and Allen has great escape ability.
So we see the gap shrinking but I don’t like Bills kicker and Head Coach that can be difference maker.
The Falcons Franchise really outdid themselves this time. As a 35 Year Fan i've seen some really bad moves but this one takes the cake. The best example of 2 alternate worlds with similar situations is how Tampa Bay whos had a similar season with a QB that people wanted to give up on who lost 2 games against Atlanta & Kirk Cousins in 3 weeks to not panic & stay the course & move 1 game ahead of the Falcons. This is embarrassing & to add insult to injury they pulled this stunt after ending the losing streak.
Mahomes record in the post season 15-3 allen 5-5 and 0 for 3 vs mahomes. Case closed mahomes way better allen is overrated
Check the stats and try again. Allen did all he could. He either left the field with the lead or about to take the lead or tie and never saw the ball again
That's what it is today. ALlen 5-5, Lamar 2-4. But a lot can change between now and the end of next season. Over the next year and a couple weeks if Mahomes no longer makes deep playoff runs the pass he gets for subpar regular seasons would go away. And if Allen/Lamar is back to back champ they are taking that crown from Mahomes.
Put JA in KC and Mahomes in Buffalo. How those numbers look then hmm? Thought so,.. drops mic..
@@DFForever1Mahomes 1000% wins at least 1 of those matchups with prime Diggs and #1 defense 😂
@Dannycuddy not if your giving Allen prime Hill and Kelce with Reid.
at least nick now knows what patriots fans felt like when he kept doubting them during the second leg of the dynasty
Nick looks like he just bathed in Mahomes juice 😂😂😂😂
Yep and that’s where Burrow got his frosted tips
Nick right defending his boyy boy.
Asking the ultimate Chiefs homer whos better and watching him melt down trying to wrap his mind around the fact that Josh Allen is clearly better this year. Does Nick work for the Chiefs?
Nick has stated like 1000 times that he knows Josh Allen is playing better this year. He said that's not up for debate. The debate is people all of a sudden saying he's better than Mahomes in general. Which as the past shows, is just untrue.
@@DreammasterFTW Nick says that and then he has to throw in some barb against the BIlls at the last second and hangs one of his banners. Hey I watch his show and I think he's really smart, but it's obvious he can't handle that Mahomes isn't always the best, case in point no one ever is on top of Mahomes Mt but Mahomes even when he clearly didn't play very well.
@arndtbc fair enough he's biased. But I still believe overall Mahomes is better than Allen in the long run
@@arndtbc Mahomes is better than everyone by a mile, just bc someone has a better season doesn’t mean they’re better. Baker and Sam Darnold statistically are having a better season, stats wise. But who has the better record than everyone quarterback? Mahomes. We got horrible tackles and lost our whole offense bc of injury and been battling that all year.
Nick just got done saying that he's a guy who argues that wins are a team stat but then he uses wins to say that josh Allen isn't comparable to Patrick Mahomes as the best talent in the league 😅
9:50 I was with you until here. Josh Allen gets no credit for the loss to Mahomes in the playoffs, even though he should. Playoff losses are the reason everyone rags on him.
Nick on Squid Game😂😊
These 'debates' are ridiculous. All of these top 4 or 5 QBS are excellent in their own ways with strengths and weaknesses. These clowns just gotta post some click bait for views.
If we'd have picked Verse at 8, where would that out us in this 1-4 game stretch? Questioning the QB position right. Or if kirk would've gotten hurt, same position. Anything can be questioned but should everything be at every opportunity?
nick is right
Tom Brady, still the standard for QBs (I was no Pats fan), dominated the NFL for a decade but won the MVP 3 times -- voters didn't just automatically give him that trophy every season, as Nick W. would obviously do for his godly Mahomes, an insult to all the other great players in the league.
Not really, Brady didnt dominate the regular season every year, Peyton and Rodgers won more MVP than Brady is correct. Its the playoffs that Brady buidling his legend and Mahomes is going through the same thing.
If Allen was in Chiefs Uniform, he would won as many SB as Mahomes. So I see Chiefs is better team but QB it is not that different.
You got that backwards..if Mahomes was Buffalo's quarterback they would of already won at least 2 Super Bowls!! Mahomes is on another level than anyone playing!!!
Sorry, but as bad as the Chiefs D was until last year they would not have won the SB with Josh turning the ball over 2-3 times a game. You are dead wrong.
Everyone is talking about how bad Burrow’s D is this year and is giving him a pass. Pat went to 3 SB and won two with a D just like that. Mahomes is #1 and it’s not even close.
nick is too defensive. be objective. no one other than chiefs fans right now would start their franchise with mahomes over allen. the latter has reached super sayan status. there is nothing mahomes can do that allen can't. there are a dozen things allen can do that mahomes could only dream of.
what gets watered down is that they're both great. one has all the accolades. the other is the superior talent. it's ok to live in this world.
Thats not how it was discussed when it comes to Tom Brady, hes the GOAT because he won all those SB despite not having the most talent as a QB. And other than the Bills, you think other team would prefer Josh Allen over Mahomes? Where is that coming from?
Patrick/Josh
Games: 106/105
AV: 109/92
Record: 83-23/72-32
Cmp%: 66.7/63.3
Pass Yds: 30,828/25,246
Pass y/a: 7.8/7.2
Pass y/g: 290.8/240.4
Pass TD: 234/185
INT: 74/83
Rate: 102.3/92.8
Championships: 3/0
Pro Bowl: 6/2
All Pro: 3/1
MVP: 2/0
Off POY: 1/0
SB MVP: 3/0
If Josh was a better QB than Mahomes, wouldn't he lead in at least one statistical category or accolade?
64.4 comp %, 243 yds/gm, 1.79 TD per game, 1.2 int %, 10.9 first downs p/g, 8.0 y/a, 103.5 rating, .14 game winning drives
66.5 comp %, 289 yds/gm, 2.19 TD per game, .67 int%, 14.4 first downs p/g, 7.8 y/a, 102 rating, .21 game winning drives
The first is Josh in 2024. The second is Patrick's average for his career 💀 Josh's best year doesn't EVEN TOUCH Mahomes career average and we're having this conversation? Only the casuals are having this conversation.
You really pulled the most obscure stats like TD per game and INT percentage, to benefit Pat, even though he has less touchdowns and more interceptions than Josh 😂
@JackRice007 that's Joshs year and Pat's average practice reading silly guy
@@rcdesigns guarantee by the time the season finishes, Patrick’s averages are going to be lower because of this garbage season. All I know is that Josh has the most touchdowns since he entered the league. He’s more of an offensive weapon as a whole.
@JackRice007 right, he conveniently leaves out anything to do with rushing, because that's where he dominates any other qb. And then goes on to say if Josh was comparable to Mahomes he would lead in at least one statistical category.....well sure, if you're gonna cherry pick the stats Mahomes is better in, then yes, Allen won't have better stats in any category mentioned.
@@mikep3813 lol that's not cherry picked stats bud. That's all the stats we judge QB's by in totality. When it comes to being a runner in the most important time (the playoffs) the difference is negligible.
"Josh has 83 rushing attempts in the playoffs with 563 yards and 37 first downs. Patrick has 90 attempts with 524 yards for 36 first downs. Isn't quite the disparity Josh Allen Stan's want to lead you to believe"
You can choose to deny reality, that's you prerogative.
Damm bro take breather or 2 screaming he's lungs out
In the playoffs, with the game on the line, KC will win, cause everyone steps up especially Mahomes. I already know it’s gonna be Chiefs-Bills AFC championship game the number 1 & 2 seeds going at again. let’s goooo Chiefs!!!!
Do you wanna know what no one else is talking about? Of the Bill's 11 wins, only 3 of them are above .500. Their losses are to the Ravens, Texans, and Rams. The only wins they have against teams above .500 are Seahawks, a depleted Kansas City (before Pacheco, Omenihu, or any of the major injuries have come back), and the depleted Lions. That matters. It really does. Yet, Josh Allen has dethroned Mahomes as the best QB in football before the regular season has ended. This reminds me of the Peyton and Brady debate. Peyton killed it in the regular season and crapped the bed in the playoffs. While Brady and the Pat's did whatever they needed to win games and were next level in the postseason. Peyton only beat Brady once or twice in the postseason. And it is absolutely clear, after the fact. It wasn't even a competition, Brady was head and shoulders above Manning. Yet here we are again, Mahomes has beat Allen every single time they have matched up in the playoffs and has 3 rings to Allen's 0. What are we even talking about? Is Allen having a better statistical year? Yes, absolutely. Does that make him tge better QB? Absolutely not. Come on.
No one is saying he's the better career-wise QB. People are saying that he's not the 2024 best QB. In fact I would even go so far as to say the best QB of that year usually would be in the top 3 MVP conversation.
Mahomes fans get but hurt when we don't worship their fav QB in all aspects and areas.
Also, KC has only beaten 3 teams with a winning record and lost to the Bills. Ur arguments are invalid
@therealbeedubbs35 Wrong. We have 4 wins against teams with winning records. The Ravens, Chargers twice, and the Broncos. Get your facts straight before you make a fool of yourself.
Josh is better this year, sorry if you can't handle that.
@arndtbc What? Where did I say that Mahomes has played better than Allen this year? Ahh, I get it. Get called out for being wrong, build a strawman, and beat that up. Classic logical fallacy used by those losing the argument.
It's not the bills Mafia or especially the players saying these things. Josh in particular has tried all year to stay focused on what we haven't been able to do. Best the chiefs in the playoffs . The division and the lions/chiefs wins were nice but until the clock hits zero with the bills over the chiefs it's a movie we've seen before
So becuase they’re good, no one should criticize them? Nick you criticize Lamar Jackson all the time.
Yeah you have to put up 40 plus points to beat the Bills but the Chiefs can’t even score 30
Bills only scored 30 in their SB
@ Chiefs couldn’t even stand in the same stadium with the Lions and the Bills put up 48
@rich9277 they won't have to. Bills scoring 30 and eagles scoring 35 2 years ago are the only times teams have scored over 29. Lions have run up the score and have 22 people on IR to show for it 😆
You dont know how matchup work, do ya? You think Bills will score 40pts on the Chiefs defense? Good luck get pass the Ravens first.
You are what your record says you are.
Couldnt agree more with NW.......dont care how great of a season other QBs are having.....dont become a prisoner of the moment.....if any player and team deserves the benefit of doubt its Patrick Mahomes and the KC.....,..It isn't close between Patrick Mahomes any all other QBs....
Allen’s been the best for awhile now. The record books are starting to catch up to the tape.
Mahomes has had better postseason team play. Chiefs have been a better postseason team than the Bills of late.
When the Bills play Super Bowl worthy football in all three phases in the postseason, they’ll make it all the way and win it.
And congrats to my Coach of the Year who just joined Landry, Dungy, Belichick, and Reid with five straight seasons with 11+ wins - Coach McDermott!!!
GO BILLS 🔵🔴 Allen’s MVP
This is "sports talk" at its worst -- these stupid debates, same ones every season -- instead of appreciating the great athletic talent of both Allen and Mahomes, also Lamar and Burrow and Hurts and Goff etc., these media hacks have to create these artificial controversies. And there's the childish Chiefs fanboy N. Wright making a fool of himself again.
I wonder why,people can't see that Mahomes is in a bad offence,with terrible scheme and terrible play calling, people are letting Andy Reid off the hook,how can u have the best QB in the NFL,and make is stats take a terrible decline,and act like their is no concern, I'm wondering if their trying to ruin is legacy.
To the point that the bills lost 2 weeks ago, yep but the chiefs can’t beat them that way.
What is there to debate?3 Super Bowl wins six straight AFC championship games Mahomes is a closer in the playoffs. Josh Allen isn't ,so what is there to debate?
QB wins huh?
I thought football was a team sport?
Nothing new here. Saying the same things.
Mahomes is better than Allen. Allen is just having the better season.
The same crew was voting Josh Allen the most overrated QB.
Everyone just wants to be the first with a hot take -how about we wait till the season is over?!
It’s also a team sport if Josh Allen was drafted by the chiefs and the Bills drafted Mahomes I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t be crowing Mahomes…AND IM DEFINITELY SURE NICK WOULDN’T BE.
😂😂 the irony is the bills could of taken mahomes but bet on tyrod Taylor instead
We’re talking about the current season Nick. You’ve been right on the Bills the whole time. Josh and Patrick don’t play against each other. Josh has done his part against the chiefs in the playoffs twice and defense/special teams let him down
In the 3 playoff games they've played, Josh has 81 cmp on 124 att. 43 incompletions. 65% comp.
Patrick is 79/105. 26 incompletions. 75% comp.
Josh has 802 yds, Pat has 918. Josh 7TD/1INT. Pretty good. Pat has 8 and 0.
Josh rating is 98.9, Patrick is 126.6. Josh been sacked 6 times for 69 yards, Pat has been sacked 3 times for 8 yards.
Josh has 6.5 y/a, Patrick has 8.7.
Pat leads in every statistical category.
The 13 second game both played great, the difference was Pat was facing the number one defense. Bills D was number one in points, number one in yards, number one in first downs, number one in passing yards, number one in passing touchdowns, and Patrick torched them. Chiefs D was 27th in yards, 24th in 1D, 27th in passing yards, 21st in rush yards, 31st in rush yards per attempt, last in yards per drive.
I bet everyone that says "Joshs defense let him down" doesn't keep that same energy when discussing Mahomes/Brady.
@rcdesigns playoff head to head Allen has 1,020 yards and 9 TDs, Pat has 1,011 yards and 9 TDs. No idea where you find your stats.
@rcdesigns in 3 playoff games the Bills #1 RB has combined for 34 carries for 104 yards. Chiefs #1 RB has combined for 35 carries for 209 yards. Allen has had to be a one man show vs KC. Mahomes has had support every single game. A competent run game makes a QBs job 10 times easier.
Mahomes is better.....so far....we will see where this goes
I thought football was a team sport?
Chiefs and Mahomes sucks. Allen and the Bills way better, I’ll take them any day.
Allen in the post season 5-5 and 0-3 vs mahomes. Mahomes 15-3 mahomes is way better
The debate is ridiculous. Josh Allen is the most talented QB. People that don’t understand football will say it’s Mahomes. People that know football will say it’s Mahomes. People that take the trophies out of the conversation and look at over all talent know it’s Josh Allen. If Josh Allen had Andy Reid as his HC and even Kelce in his developmental years do you think he would have won multiple championships? Of course he would. This is me as a Bills fan saying Allen is more talented than Mahomes but KC coaching has been far superior. Our coaching staff is also developing where Any Reid got his star QB in his own coaching prime. Reid is also an offensive HQ that calls plays. Look at how Josh Allen has matched Mahomes year after year in the playoffs with a revolving door of OCs and a defensive HQ. I can admit that KC overall has been the better coached team… can you admit that if Allen had Andy Reid as his play caller/HC with Spags as the DC that KC would be even more unstoppable? Your O line sucks this. Bills O line is awesome this year. I guarantee you that if Josh Allen was you QB your O-line wouldn’t look as bad as it does right now. Nick Wright is just a homer.
We have eyes and people see Allen is better. The Chiefs are better than the Bills and Allen is better than Mahomes, both things are true.
Has that been true of a single playoff game they’ve met in? Has Allen been better than Patrick? I’ll hang up and listen.
This MVP season of his will be not even in the top 3 of what Patrick has done in various seasons 😂
Idiots and drunk Bills fans are the only people who think Josh is better.
Patrick/Josh
Games: 106/105
AV: 109/92
Record: 83-23/72-32
Cmp%: 66.7/63.3
Pass Yds: 30,828/25,246
Pass y/a: 7.8/7.2
Pass y/g: 290.8/240.4
Pass TD: 234/185
INT: 74/83
Rate: 102.3/92.8
Championships: 3/0
Pro Bowl: 6/2
All Pro: 3/1
MVP: 2/0
Off POY: 1/0
SB MVP: 3/0.
If Josh was a better QB than Mahomes, wouldn't he lead in at least one statistical category or accolade?
In the 3 playoff games they've played, Josh has 81 cmp on 124 att. 43 incompletions. 65% comp.
Patrick is 79/105. 26 incompletions. 75% comp.
Josh has 802 yds, Pat has 918. Josh 7TD/1INT. Pretty good. Pat has 8 and 0.
Josh rating is 98.9, Patrick is 126.6. Josh been sacked 6 times for 69 yards, Pat has been sacked 3 times for 8 yards.
Josh has 6.5 y/a, Patrick has 8.7.
Pat leads in every statistical category. Shocker.
64.4 comp %, 243 yds/gm, 1.79 TD per game, 1.2 int %, 10.9 first downs p/g, 8.0 y/a, 103.5 rating, .14 game winning drives
66.5 comp %, 289 yds/gm, 2.19 TD per game, .67 int %, 14.4 first downs p/g, 7.8 y/a, 102 rating, .21 game winning drives
The first is Josh in 2024. The second is Patrick's average for his career 💀 Josh's best year doesn't EVEN TOUCH Mahomes career average and we're having this conversation? Only the casuals are having this conversation.
So then Allen must be the goat then because on that same test, Mahomes is better than Brady
Allen is not better than Mahomes. He needs to beat him in a meaningful game to even start that discussion
Nick have you seen the Chiefs play this season? They should legitimately be 8 and 6 right now. Btw Mahomes can't even throw a long ball without overthrowing it by 20 feet. Wake up.
🧂 😢
@@DonJoshpkosh11 yes i have seen the chiefs win 13 games and be the best team in the league
@@Zarkmoneybags of those13 wins, if Isiah Likely pulls his foot 2inches in that win isnt guaranteed, if the refs dont throw a flag against Cincinnati thats a loss, if the dubious call is not made against the the raiders thats a potential loss, if you dont win the coin toss against the bucs thats a potential loss, the broncos excute better kick the field goal thats a loss, justin herbert doesnt get injured thats not a guaranteed win.
obvs football anything can happen but in a lot of these games the chiefs won because of something that is out of their own control and to bank on the power of good fortune going into the playoffs has never been a super strtegey.
Shoulda woulda coulda
Shoulda, could, woulda and lots of ifs
35 minutes well spent
oh i already know he'll be whining
Socks to bed = better sleep try one time🟪🟥🟨🟩