Caitlin Clark effect 2.0 The league is mostly Black. The media works overtime promoting Non Black players whenever they have MVP type seasons. Dan Orlosky has declared Josh Allen the MVP regardless of what Saquon and Lamar do in the final weeks. He did say Joe Burrow is the only other possibility. Of course Josh is getting the MVP 😄
Look at all the former OSU teams and all the talent they had and what they accomplished, or lack thereof. Sometimes you just gotta realize your place in the universe and accept it.
I remember after 9-30 loss to Houston everyone Josh needs help go get him a WR1! They got cooper now “He is elevating the team” GTFOH- Man loosing every stat to Lamar with a cupcake schedule and loosing record 2-3 against plus 500 teams! How is it over with 3 games to go, and he is trailing in every statistical category? I’m starting to believe Witlock about big sports media!
uh, Allen is leading in nearly every stat, not sure what fantasy land you are living in..... QBR, EPA, Wins, PAA, tied for Tds..... Allen leads in every meaningful stat despite playing less and leadding the games (so not throwing as much), and the Ravens have the easier schedule! You must be a troll....
Amari Cooper has barely played and when he's played he's had a cast on his wrist when they just scored 48 points against Detroit Cooper didn't have a single target. Everyone was out versus Houston. As far against Lamar the only thing Lamar wins in is dinosaur stats for dumb dumbs. All the advanced metrics the ones that the football nerds use I'll tell you that not only as Josh better he's way better. Total QBR success rate EPA win rate points added above average all favor Josh Allen mostly by a wide margin a lot of times Lamar isn't even second.
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And you obviously know nothing about the award. You may not like it but it’s narrative driven and has been since like the mid to late 2000’s. That’s why no RBs have won it since
@@kobeetj RB's dont win because they don't hold even half the value as the elite QB's. It's most valuable to a team, not a pity award because they play a different position.
@@josephcorbridge5421 so you don’t think Saquon is most valuable to the Eagles. Same could be said about Henry. Lamar’s stats are up because they fear the run game first and the Eagles would be nothing without riding Saquons coattails
The eagles should get crazy and hand it off to saquan every play next game, or even better have him line up at qb for every snap. Then we can see if a rb can be as valuable as any qb. Please do this. Also F Philly 😎
very strange that Lamar is gonna have even BETTER stats than he did last year and oh the Bills are 2-3 against teams in the playoffs right now...including against Lamar lol.
What is The Ravens record against losing teams? Cherry pick whatever stats you want, Josh is 10x more deserving of the mvp this year. If Lamar won it last year with far worse numbers than Josh, so there really is no argument you can make.
What stats? QBR (Allen 79.3, Lamar 76.0)? Less total turnovers (Lamar at 8, Allen at 7)? More total tds (Lamar at 37, Allen at 37)? Signature wins and signature losses (Lamar having an 0-2 record to the Browns and Raiders who are 3-23 when not playing the Ravens whereas Allen has a 2-0 record to the Chiefs and Lions who are 25-1 when not playing the Bills)? Team records (Allen 11-3 to Lamar 9-5)? Strength of schedule (Ravens have a slightly easier schedule-look it up if you do not believe me)? If you really wanna make the whole MVP campaign about head to head wins, do you then argue that Mahomes, Wilson, Hurts, Minshew lol, Jameis lol all deserve MVP over Jackson? Of course you don't because there is quite a bit more to it than that.
Your first argument is completely unserious for obvious reasons. I don't really have to explain why, do I? About the Bills record, they gave KC their only loss of the season and they beat the 11 wins in a row Lions... and Lamar lost to a TERRIBLE Raiders team that's probably gonna pick first in 2025, the sorry Browns and to the Steelers that didn't score a singular TD. Does nothing of that matters?? LOL
Whoa!!! Villanova had no business beating Georgetown!!?,,, dude they shot the lights out,, plus you have to beat a lot of good teams to get to the final (without losing,, in case you forgot how a tournament works) Georgetown lost because they were a bunch of thugs and karma finally got them😂😂😂😂
People keep saying that Lamar didn't "deserve" the MVP last year and that his sats were "horrendous." For one: You have to actually watch those games to see why he was the MVP. Two: He had one of the toughest schedules division in the entire league imagine a situation where Burrow and the Bangles didn't even make the playoff. Three: Lamar played fewer minutes because they were blowing out teams which resulted in him sitting out a whole quarter, plus he didn't play the final game of the season. Four: Outside of Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes, Josh Allen is probably the next QB that scares me the most (now Lamar don't scare me because he's my favorite), but Josh was the main reason the Bills lose some games last season (at least 3 games). Finally, Josh Allen was not on the MVP conversation because of the reasons I mentioned and Lamar's Christmas night performance against the 49ers and the Dolphins the next decided the MVP for him. Each team had two candidates (Christian McCaffrey and Purdy, and Tyreek Hill and Tua) and Lamar cemented his MVP case there.
What games did Josh lose them? Outside of the Jets game I don't know what other games he lost them. Lamar lost his team games too. They both went 5-1 and 6-2 against playoff teams respectively.
Lamar had a harder schedule, has played better all year and beat him head to head. Its BEYOND ridiculous they making Allen claim based off the last 3 games lmao comical
Really, all year??? Josh had 2 bad games missing his top 2 receivers in the early season, and dominante otherwise. Bills beat the 2 best teams in the nfl, Ravens lost to 2 of the worst teams 😂😂😂 does Henry help at all?
@@donkeybus 2 bad games?? Ravens, Texans, Colts you would say he had good games? How bout some context? Just beat a Lions team with how many starters hurt?? Even KC been down this yr but i can't argue that much. Henry def helps but look at Lamar passing and his schedule. Josh only got 2 wins over teams over .500 lol
@@JimmyJuelzexactly, Joshs numbers are lower because he is easily beating weaker teams and sitting the 4rth or running out the clock. Losing teams throw the ball more. Josh doesnt make the schedule. You didnt adress the Ravens losses. Yes Josh had 2 bad games in the early season without his top 2 receivers and a whole new receiving core. If you want to "add context" then that negates the Bills Ravens game as the Bills were missing their top 2 receivers and 4 best defenders (6 defensive starters total), who are now back. You cant make an argument for Lamar without being inconsistent.
@@donkeybus how am i being inconsistent? you making your case for your guy, im making my case for mine. Defense lost the Raiders game, Lamar don't play defense lol Clev is def a bad loss can't even argue that but its a divison game right after Watson got hurt so Cleveland was riding high. Still no excuse though it was a horrible loss. what 4th qt has josh sat out this yr? don't be making stuff up now hahaha
Man that’s the way to do it going FWD with the actors playing sports experts! If regular people seeing through this straw man MVP hype job what players are doing?
Lamar has another MVP candidate behind him keeping defenses honest and helping his numbers, this fatigue narative is NONSENSE. The eagles beat the steelers with Barkely only going for 60. This isnt a conversation, the MVP this season is JA17. They can do statistical backflips to give it to Lamar again all they want, we'll all know it'll be ANOTHER one he doesn't deserve.
What the f is Lamar fatigue? Tired of watching him take his passing game to new heights near the top of the all-time record? The question itself is evidence of the bias Lamar has been dealing with his entire career. Answering yes proves that you don't care what happens next at best or are saying he can't do what he does.
@bp6421 Maybe if you are a minority that is clearly held to double standards in media narratives. Lamar won the mvps, younger than anyone, but not the respect from people like yourself that normally comes with unprecedented accomplishments.
Lmaooo no other qb would be 13-1 with the chiefs, Charlie doing what all these media folk wanna do with Josh and this Josh best season and Mahomes got 3 season better than this one 😂😂😂
Josh Allen should've gotten MVP last year, would've solved all this conundrum
10-6 with 25 turnovers yeah right
@@joemenrollins You can't even get the numbers right! 11- 6 (after starting 6-6) with 22 turnovers and led the league in scoring, what a casual clown.
@@donkeybus josh must be your uncle or something since you attack anyone who don't agree he MVP 😂
@@JimmyJuelz yeah, might be a bit over the top but I'm bored, and it annoys me. I should probablly do something productive instead.
Caitlin Clark effect 2.0 The league is mostly Black. The media works overtime promoting Non Black players whenever they have MVP type seasons. Dan Orlosky has declared Josh Allen the MVP regardless of what Saquon and Lamar do in the final weeks. He did say Joe Burrow is the only other possibility. Of course Josh is getting the MVP 😄
Dominique vs the entire city of Philly my favourite beef
Bills fan will be watching..
Charlie be having too much dip on his chip with the mahomes take
Joel looks like Tre Rags dad lol
Look at all the former OSU teams and all the talent they had and what they accomplished, or lack thereof. Sometimes you just gotta realize your place in the universe and accept it.
I remember after 9-30 loss to Houston everyone Josh needs help go get him a WR1!
They got cooper now “He is elevating the team” GTFOH-
Man loosing every stat to Lamar with a cupcake schedule and loosing record 2-3 against plus 500 teams!
How is it over with 3 games to go, and he is trailing in every statistical category? I’m starting to believe Witlock about big sports media!
uh, Allen is leading in nearly every stat, not sure what fantasy land you are living in..... QBR, EPA, Wins, PAA, tied for Tds..... Allen leads in every meaningful stat despite playing less and leadding the games (so not throwing as much), and the Ravens have the easier schedule! You must be a troll....
@donkeybus
What stats? Less passing yards, TD’s completion percentage, oh he has more INT’s that’s it
Amari Cooper has barely played and when he's played he's had a cast on his wrist when they just scored 48 points against Detroit Cooper didn't have a single target. Everyone was out versus Houston. As far against Lamar the only thing Lamar wins in is dinosaur stats for dumb dumbs. All the advanced metrics the ones that the football nerds use I'll tell you that not only as Josh better he's way better. Total QBR success rate EPA win rate points added above average all favor Josh Allen mostly by a wide margin a lot of times Lamar isn't even second.
Josh doesn't care about MVP, and the one thing that hurts Lamar is he has Henry who was also a MVP candidate
The thing that hurts Lamar is Josh Allen is just better. That's it it's the only reason he's not gonna win it is because Josh Allen is better.
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Ignoring the QB rating of LJ8 is CRAZY!!!!
QBR or Passer Rating... Because Josh is leading in one and Lamar is leading the other
No one is ignoring Lamar, hes great just clearly not the mvp this year.
And you obviously know nothing about the award. You may not like it but it’s narrative driven and has been since like the mid to late 2000’s. That’s why no RBs have won it since
@@kobeetj RB's dont win because they don't hold even half the value as the elite QB's. It's most valuable to a team, not a pity award because they play a different position.
@@josephcorbridge5421 so you don’t think Saquon is most valuable to the Eagles. Same could be said about Henry. Lamar’s stats are up because they fear the run game first and the Eagles would be nothing without riding Saquons coattails
The eagles should get crazy and hand it off to saquan every play next game, or even better have him line up at qb for every snap. Then we can see if a rb can be as valuable as any qb. Please do this. Also F Philly 😎
Yup
Yes
And if Josh loses then what yall gonna say
Baltimore will be losing. Buffalo won’t.
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Not yet. If the lions win out its a toss up between him and Goff
Just wrong. He’s barely in the conversation
@kobeetj have you seen the injured list??? It's longer than the practice squad
@kobeetj so yes I stand by my comment. If Goff pulls this off the whole conversation can change on its head if Goff plays outta his mind
Lamar has way more abd josh has way less . Josh is MVP He should have won it last year
there a guy on Baltimore
Derrik Henry? Or the guy that didnt deserve the mvp last year?
10-6 with 25 turnovers not MVP worthy
@@joemenrollins didnt say it was, and also dont know of any players that played on a 10-6 team last season and had 25 turnovers
@donkeybus
Allen did 18 nits and 7 loss fumbles 💯🫡
@@joemenrollins Lying about stats. Nothing new to Lamar stans.
DF stayds doing wnba numbers. He must know someone high up.
very strange that Lamar is gonna have even BETTER stats than he did last year and oh the Bills are 2-3 against teams in the playoffs right now...including against Lamar lol.
Lamar didn’t have good stats last year. They were horrible to get an MVP
What is The Ravens record against losing teams? Cherry pick whatever stats you want, Josh is 10x more deserving of the mvp this year. If Lamar won it last year with far worse numbers than Josh, so there really is no argument you can make.
What stats? QBR (Allen 79.3, Lamar 76.0)? Less total turnovers (Lamar at 8, Allen at 7)? More total tds (Lamar at 37, Allen at 37)? Signature wins and signature losses (Lamar having an 0-2 record to the Browns and Raiders who are 3-23 when not playing the Ravens whereas Allen has a 2-0 record to the Chiefs and Lions who are 25-1 when not playing the Bills)? Team records (Allen 11-3 to Lamar 9-5)? Strength of schedule (Ravens have a slightly easier schedule-look it up if you do not believe me)? If you really wanna make the whole MVP campaign about head to head wins, do you then argue that Mahomes, Wilson, Hurts, Minshew lol, Jameis lol all deserve MVP over Jackson? Of course you don't because there is quite a bit more to it than that.
Your first argument is completely unserious for obvious reasons. I don't really have to explain why, do I?
About the Bills record, they gave KC their only loss of the season and they beat the 11 wins in a row Lions... and Lamar lost to a TERRIBLE Raiders team that's probably gonna pick first in 2025, the sorry Browns and to the Steelers that didn't score a singular TD.
Does nothing of that matters?? LOL
You pretty much just admitted Lamar won a weak MVP last year.
The ravens lost to the raiders and browns case close
Whoa!!! Villanova had no business beating Georgetown!!?,,, dude they shot the lights out,, plus you have to beat a lot of good teams to get to the final (without losing,, in case you forgot how a tournament works) Georgetown lost because they were a bunch of thugs and karma finally got them😂😂😂😂
People keep saying that Lamar didn't "deserve" the MVP last year and that his sats were "horrendous."
For one: You have to actually watch those games to see why he was the MVP.
Two: He had one of the toughest schedules division in the entire league imagine a situation where Burrow and the Bangles didn't even make the playoff.
Three: Lamar played fewer minutes because they were blowing out teams which resulted in him sitting out a whole quarter, plus he didn't play the final game of the season.
Four: Outside of Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes, Josh Allen is probably the next QB that scares me the most (now Lamar don't scare me because he's my favorite), but Josh was the main reason the Bills lose some games last season (at least 3 games).
Finally, Josh Allen was not on the MVP conversation because of the reasons I mentioned and Lamar's Christmas night performance against the 49ers and the Dolphins the next decided the MVP for him. Each team had two candidates (Christian McCaffrey and Purdy, and Tyreek Hill and Tua) and Lamar cemented his MVP case there.
What games did Josh lose them? Outside of the Jets game I don't know what other games he lost them. Lamar lost his team games too. They both went 5-1 and 6-2 against playoff teams respectively.
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Lamar has Henry. Josh doesn’t. Josh MVP.
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Lamar had a harder schedule, has played better all year and beat him head to head. Its BEYOND ridiculous they making Allen claim based off the last 3 games lmao comical
Really, all year??? Josh had 2 bad games missing his top 2 receivers in the early season, and dominante otherwise. Bills beat the 2 best teams in the nfl, Ravens lost to 2 of the worst teams 😂😂😂 does Henry help at all?
@@donkeybus 2 bad games?? Ravens, Texans, Colts you would say he had good games? How bout some context? Just beat a Lions team with how many starters hurt?? Even KC been down this yr but i can't argue that much. Henry def helps but look at Lamar passing and his schedule. Josh only got 2 wins over teams over .500 lol
@@JimmyJuelzexactly, Joshs numbers are lower because he is easily beating weaker teams and sitting the 4rth or running out the clock. Losing teams throw the ball more. Josh doesnt make the schedule. You didnt adress the Ravens losses. Yes Josh had 2 bad games in the early season without his top 2 receivers and a whole new receiving core. If you want to "add context" then that negates the Bills Ravens game as the Bills were missing their top 2 receivers and 4 best defenders (6 defensive starters total), who are now back. You cant make an argument for Lamar without being inconsistent.
@@donkeybus how am i being inconsistent? you making your case for your guy, im making my case for mine. Defense lost the Raiders game, Lamar don't play defense lol Clev is def a bad loss can't even argue that but its a divison game right after Watson got hurt so Cleveland was riding high. Still no excuse though it was a horrible loss. what 4th qt has josh sat out this yr? don't be making stuff up now hahaha
@@donkeybus an the colts game was just before Josh went on this hot run what about that game?
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Man that’s the way to do it going FWD with the actors playing sports experts!
If regular people seeing through this straw man MVP hype job what players are doing?
Lamar has another MVP candidate behind him keeping defenses honest and helping his numbers, this fatigue narative is NONSENSE. The eagles beat the steelers with Barkely only going for 60. This isnt a conversation, the MVP this season is JA17. They can do statistical backflips to give it to Lamar again all they want, we'll all know it'll be ANOTHER one he doesn't deserve.
What the f is Lamar fatigue? Tired of watching him take his passing game to new heights near the top of the all-time record?
The question itself is evidence of the bias Lamar has been dealing with his entire career. Answering yes proves that you don't care what happens next at best or are saying he can't do what he does.
Lamar has two MVPs. Stop whining about "bias".
It’s a trope for ⬛️ QB shhh🤫
If 2 MVP is bias, then can I get some of that bias please??
@bp6421 Maybe if you are a minority that is clearly held to double standards in media narratives. Lamar won the mvps, younger than anyone, but not the respect from people like yourself that normally comes with unprecedented accomplishments.
Lmaooo no other qb would be 13-1 with the chiefs, Charlie doing what all these media folk wanna do with Josh and this Josh best season and Mahomes got 3 season better than this one 😂😂😂
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