By "sub-plot", don't you mean "continuation of the main plot which results in the discussion repeating itself over and over again in an endless time loop of questioning and re-questioning"? (Loved it nonetheless)
XSXJs: Sees existence for what it was XSXPs: Sees existence for what it is XNXJs: Sees existence for what it could be XNXPs: Isn't sure about the existence of existence
All true. Si focuses on the past, Se focuses on the present, Ni focuses on the future, and Ne... well, Ne at its best focuses on how past, present and future are connected, and at its worst has trouble focusing on anything at all. 🤯
I think that depends on the point of view, when we are the mustaches we are wearing Kristin, but the real question is, why are we doing that? Do we have any free will to decide by whom are we being worn?.. but then again if we 'are doing something' it means we have a mind of our own, so can the mustaches even wear Kristin if they are a subject, unless of course this particular mustaches are something more..
@Kharui (INTP here) the right question would have been: "How can we decide about anything if it is white or not?" Or, in other words: "What are the sufficient and necessary criteria of the whiteness of something?" Once we have the answer to this question, we can also decide if the fridge (or whatever we have that we call a fridge) is white or not. All the other questions about what makes a fridge a fridge, who owns it, or what specific experiences certain people had with fridges, are secondary, and do not bring us closer to the answer.
@Kharui any question is a problem. A problem can be either ill-defined or well-defined. A well-defined problem has clear expected solutions, while the ill-defined does not have clear goals. A right question is what seeks answer to a well-defined problem, or transforms an ill-defined problem to a well-defined one. A wrong question seeks answer to an ill-defined problem, or transforms a well-defined one to an ill-defined one. The original question was a well-defined problem, since its expected solutions are clear (the fridge is either white, or not). The questions other philosophers asked would all drive the argument to ill-defined territories, since they argued the very premise of the original question itself.
@Kharui because asking questions is an algorithmization, and you need clear goals to produce an algorithm that solves a problem. I am not saying that ill-defined problems are irrelevant, they are relevant, but propositional arguments do not provide the optimal grasps on them. They are usually approached by intuitive or participatory methods (like, if you want to know what love means, the best approach is to participate in it).
I love how ISTP always sees things for how they really are, and not as an abstract. The fact that their captions are literally "Milk Milk Milk" really seals the deal! 🥛😂
But you didn't explain the most important detail: What is your fridge's name? My INFP named her car, her favorite pair of pants, all of her plants, and her dad's pager.
Oh my gosh. Thank you for pointing this out. All this time I was trying to figure out a deeper meaning of the diagram. Is it a clock? Is it a S/N conversion table? Are the personalities taking on the philosophical personality of another personality? But as it turns out, as it always does, the true answer is a lot simpler and somehow more impressive.
Hehe good pick up! I didn't really notice the backgrounds -- I mean -- other than I want it, where ever it is. All of it. I'd assumed that the diagram was just for keeping track of which way to face when speaking to others in the Great Circle of Philosophical Kristins.
Yeah the diagram was necessary so that I didn't mess up in which direction all the characters were to look when talking to one another! I have learned that some people pay attention to such details and I've been burned before when I got them wrong *regenerating beer bottle, I'm looking at you*. Unfortunately, because of who I am as a person, I STILL managed to mess one up.
I'm an INTP and i PRETTY sure one of my friends is an ISTP. And yes, that is pretty much exactly how some of our debates have gone... Usually ends with me just going "Fiiine... Have it your way". lol
As an INFP there have been many times where I look up at the clouds in sky on a beautiful day and thought to myself ''I can't believe this is all real''. Also recognized the INFP as soon as I saw them appear for that split second. Great video as always Kristin :) Now time to rewatch with UK captions
And there are times where I feel like everything could be...just a dream Idk, it's just reality feels so fake sometimes And how am I in this body, how do I have this conscious and okay I need to stop
Same! Except I look at my hand. Skin in particular. Then I pinch it, breath on it, look at it intensely. Asking is this fucking real??? And then seconds later, be fascinated and happy that it is. I have no idea if this is actually real, but let's just say it is because it's what I can feel rn. It's thesame idea to everything else, basically to humans, earth, planets, space, universe, minds, psychological behavior. Everything is so fascinating, existing is so fascinating!!! It's so amazing!!! Seeing colors is amazing! Emotions are amazing! Human nuances are amazing! Art is amazing! Knowledge is amazing! Dreaming is amazing! Basically everything!! Life and Death is amazing. And yet, out of all the people I know, it's myself who I think who's the most disappointed in living. ps. excuse my English xD.
Fellow Norwegian, I concur. -INFP (that also somehow gets into the depth of the human condition and existence whenever a philosophical discussion props up rather than whatever the subject actually was)
@@malakashraf2801 of course ne-fi can be good philosophers, but when someone leads with or has aux Ne, they're also good at Ni. An ESTJ's biggest weakness is Ni. Why is this important? Because to put it colloquially, they're basically allergic to or even repulsed by the idea of invisible, convoluted Ni metaphors that exist totally outside of their efficient Te-Si world. It's not just being bad at something, but actively disliking it.
@@modove2842 cool , but my point is if fi-ne users are called the philosophers , then ne is more important than ni for this , and actually si-ne axis in general is more abstract than se-ni axis , and ne is liquid creativity more than any other function even ni . that's as far as j know , l follow csj .
@@stairwayscare5205 . I have proven by experiments that coffee is the best energy source to get going. And I get out of bed thanks to the power of (fear of failure). I don't think the pool of energy you are talking about includes these two. However I'm not gonna veto the term everything is relative therefore I'm not trying to start an argument.
As an INFJ I agree😭😭😭 What is the purpose of this, I can give solid points and close this philosophical conundrum but it’s pointless😭😭😭😭what do we gain out of this?
@@dearkristin and phahahah honestly it’s a banger! Fun fact me and my friends in year 7 when we were super into it used to do Hamilton wrap battles (that we of course called duels) on the school playground- very very fun
I have to watch this video again, at least ten more times so that I can absorb all the props and details. You've just created another classic, Kristin!
As an ISTJ I was once to have a discussion/debate in a class, whether we need commas in writing. The only thing I could thing about, was how absurd the whole discussion is, so my answer was "Why are we even discussing it?"
For a long time neither did I know what they're good for, but since I've realized that it is an evil scheme, so students who have committed an act unappreciated by the school, can lose points on them. A less absurd question is, Do we need spaces in writing?
@@bater6901 While spaces and pucunattion are deflniteiy neacssery in the English launagge, the order of letters maettrs a lot less than you'd think. Take a deeper look at the words in the first sentence here, you will notice you read it wrong, because some of the things aren't words at all, they're jumbled letters that seem to make words you know if you read quickly. In actuality I cannot know whehter you read this rhigt the frsit time or not, but if you did: this phenomenon is called Typoglycemia (although it's likely an urban myth that it's always possible).
Hey youtube commenters! I just wanted to mention again that Kristin has a patreon goal that when she hits 500 patrons she's going to make "16 Personalities In A Musical." Let's make that happen! Even if you can't afford the lowest patreon tier, I'm sure a custom pledge of any size would help her achieve her goal of becoming a full time content creator. Even a dollar would help! So, if her content entertains you, or enriches your life in some way, please consider donating!
@@Meg_intheclouds I just had to laugh reading your comment. 😂 I'm glad you found out. sygos has been posting this under each and every one of Kristin's videos for months now, if not since introducing the goal together with restructuring the Patreon tiers in Mai (if I'm not mistaken). Don't get me wrong, I'm not making fun of you, it's just so adorably enfp to being oblivious for so long and then so excited. 😍 (To be fair, it's easy to overlook on the Patreon page/app if you don't know it's there. And honestly on the mobile page on my iPad I can't find it at all. In the app it's under Membership.)
@@MichaelGrundler omg! Hahaha we love the oblivious ENFP 😂 it’s a full time job at this point! (Also don’t worry about me taking things the wrong way- I literally do not pick up on things when people are genuinely mean or rude it just all goes over my head- because oblivious to everything 😂 but yeah my point is I wouldn’t see it that way regardless- but yeah we love that)
@@twitzmixx8374 I'm not sure, but here's what Patreon has to say about that: "If you want to join a creator's membership as a patron or provide membership as a creator, you must be at least 18 years old or have permission from a parent or guardian." So, maybe you can ask a parent or guardian to donate for you? 😅
I'm not gonna lie. This very, very funny video only makes me want to meet an ENTP to have these convos with even more. Being an INFJ, our Ti's would run each other into overdrive
I'm an INTP but I relate with both ISTP & INTP so much.... When I know the answer is just "we have refrigator because i took milk from the refrigerator", while everyone are overthinking in discussion made me confused, so I just ended stay silent. But sadly I'm not that smart and too confused, got distracted with the discussion went, not realizing I actually know the real answer from the start 😭
@@dudeinadoughboy4327 Yes, that feels pretty realistic. It's like the question of what makes a woman? The question of the color of the refrigerator is like the question of the appearance of the woman. It is not the appearance that makes you a woman, but your function. Refrigerator, keeps milk cold - ISTP has just fetched milk from a functioning refrigerator - Of course there is a refrigerator in this house. Even if you unplug the refrigerator and make it unusable, it is and remains designed to be a refrigerator. You don't make an other thing out of it, even if you change the color.
Haha well done, I vibe with ENTP's skepticism in this one. Although I must point out that if we're going with epistemological sketpicism then we cannot make the claim at 3:22 without having an inconsistency. Also, ESFP reasoned like a boss, great use of Ti. What a way to battle stupid stereotypes. -INTP
As an ISFP you got my response exactly right! I usually stay out of these type of conversations and finally chime in toward the end of the conversation with, “It doesn’t matter…. as long as….” Or “does it really matter?” I’m not generally that interested in deep philosophical debates unless it’s something I really care about personally or affects my life in some way. I don’t care to debate or argue. I feel that everyone has a right to their own opinion and everyone’s feeling are valid. That doesn’t mean I don’t believe in absolute truth, because I do, but sometimes I feel that it’s better to have peace than debate and argue. And that’s just how I live my life 😎.
I can relate to ISTP and INTP conversation. We are on different planes as I(ISTP) generalize too fast for INTP to catch up. The ENTJ wig was brilliant.
i do not think INTP could not catch up. Quite the opposite, he sees what is ENTP asking and ISTP while using straightforward method to identify the fridge does cannot describe how he is doing it. And then the INTP realizes that instead of focusing on defining basics for answering the question, people are putting there irrelevant questions as they have different goals in it . And so he concludes it makes more sense to not waste any more time becasue the outcome is predictable and INTP does not have the skills and energy to keep people on track for to arrive at any meaningful conclusion.
@@jansvoboda4293 Well I did mention that we are on different planes which automatically means that while ISTP is generalizing using their Ti-Se, INTP might have traversed a 100 different options due to their Ti-Ne. But they do take time to reach to the conclusion because they negate a 100 options to reach there perfectly while ISTP doesn't consider those 100 options and might have used only 20-30 options present at the moment to generalize. Eventually they do each the same generalization but in a different way.
@@gapoorva5289 It's not about number of options here. It is about focus on obvious reality versus abstracting and confirming correctly the method and conclusion about it. It is also more of a clash between ENTP Ne (how we know what we know) vs ISTP (we just know it is just in front of us). INTP reads both and tries to mediate so that the actual question is answered. ENT and ISTP are not cooperative in it. They are focusing on their own perspective. INTP concludes this road leads nowhere and disappears.
Update: I re-watched the skit with UK subtitles and you REALLY outdid yourself Like I laughed out hard... audible hard... not just your typical almost soundless "hmm haha" you do when you're watching someting on yoiur cellphone ps: dear ESTJ, I mean, dear chairman, if my text has grammatical errors, plz spare me from your wrarth, as english is not my mother tonge
"Brother Giles" is an ancient ancestor of Jill, the ISTJ we all know and love, and you can't convince me otherwise (Yes, I am keeping track of each name Kristin has used for the types. I do not feel guilty.)
Actually...my ESFJ mum has literally told me that line from the sketch about not being able to stand the depth of my questions. ISFJ here. Cleaning is not the only philosophy subject that interests me though 🙃
i relate so much to the isfp- never really participating in a discussion, not understanding the waste of energy about something thats not worth to be discussed. love it.
What if we all are in a Kristen skit 😳 Could we be the UK captions version of the skit? Could we all be in ENFP Kristen's daydream? Or in the daydream that is in the daydream of ENFP Kristen's daydream? Are we all centaurs...
Fun fact: centaurs were humans that ride with their legs around the horse neck. But won't it be wonderful if they really existed? How would they travel? How could we make airplanes for then?
I think this is my favorite 💖 it really shows how each personality thinks and what matters to them while being fun :) (also INFP "what if this is just a dream" and "we can never really know each other's feelings/thoughts" is so on point for me)
J'adore ! J'ai envie de revisionner cette vidéo, tellement elle est riche et fourmille d'idées ! Beau travail, bravo. (Le son - musique et murmures- en fond est très bien fait et apporte sa touche réaliste)
Is the « gardening » of the INTP a reference to Voltaire's Candide and therefore a metaphor of constant questioning and learning? 🤔 Because I doubt they have the energy for REAL gardening (too much maintenance)😂
I love everything about this skit. The brilliant, funny, beautifully written arguments about the refrigerator, the wigs, hats, mustaches, and most importantly, the INTP going to Norway 😂, and the refrigerator suddenly become Todd, thanks to the INFP 😂 Not to mention the sub-plot which is extra hilarious 😂 This is creatively crafted, Kristin 👍😂
The way INTP called the questions wrong and left without asking the right questions probably means that she already know the answer and is done with other's shit lmao
As an INFJ I would listen carefully during the whole discussion and then drop my indisputably superior opinion on the matter right when the chairman is about to announce the end of the meeting...once again proving my complete and utter superiority when it comes to philosophical analysis xD
INTJ uses 'Platos Cave' to describe a fridge. INFJ (Yeah. In my head.) Real: I shoved it off a cliff. FIXED. 'Killing Joke' hat too. And, your mustaches keep changing directions. 🙌 Really awesome! I love this. 💗
I grew up close to INTP`s (Wittgenstein) cabin in Norway... apparently he would shout at locals even walking by his home as the merest sound would interrupt his trains of thought.
The debate between the ENTP, ISTP, and INTP was really the highlight of this video for me. Also, the absurdity of discussing the whiteness of a fridge is not beyond me :)
This is a brilliant video! Especially as I've often been curious about how philosophical inquiry would be represented in each of the different personality types.
I too as an INTP, just like the INTP in this skit, am displeased with the quality of questions from the group in the skit, and so am driven to move to Norway (UK subs: repurpose saved money) and take up gardening (UK subs: project car) as well, but that hobby soon fell by the wayside due to my inattentiveness towards physical and sensory things. The life of a hermit philosopher is the life for me.
Wow. ENFP (my type) was very accurate. "I believe life is about connection, too." "Can we veto to ban the phrase 'it's all relative'?" "Does the color of the fridge help it do its job?" BTW, I have an answer to that. White (or silver) reflects the heat off so it stays cold inside using less electricity. One types asked what is a fridge? I ask, is a root cellar a fridge? If so, some fridges are brown! Or other dirt colors! Loved the use of philosophical buzz words like "hedonism" to help us see how this is like every philosophy question ever. It is both interesting and pointless! Glad the INTP avoided epicureanism! Update: talked with my best friend about whether a white fridge is white, and decided it may not be a fridge, and mortal humans are incapable of seeing true white.
Technically a "white" fridge would be any color _but_ white. Things appear to be certain colors because they're actually reflecting that/those wavelength(s) of light, whilst absorbing the others! So I suppose the color of the fridge would come down to: is it the color it's _perceived_ to be, or is it the color of those it _absorbs?_ And a fun little side note because I love Schrödinger's Cat, if the fridge is indeed the color that we _perceive_ it to be, does that then mean that an object only gains color once it's perceived at all? 🤔 (Or I guess put another way, if an object is the color of that we perceive it to have, if we are not looking at it, is that object then colorless until we _can/do_ perceive it?)
Ah yes, this is exactly how I make decisions- my OCs are sitting in a group discussing topics and it ultimately ends in total chaos but helps be make a decision. The ENTP not shutting up and having to be right coupled with my main character an ESTP getting defensive, while the ESTJ and ENTJ fight over who should be leading the group, the INFP is just chilling in the corner dreaming of something nice, and the ENFP is enjoying a pleasant conversation with Todd. Great video as always, I definitely don’t give names to our appliances such as Howard The Duck for our annoying microwave or Iceman for our refrigerator…
Im going to Norway! My whole family tend to be intp im the one infp that causes such a stir by bringing feelings into the fray... We are of Norwegian ancestry and from what I can tell that is so accurate! Including the gardening! Lol
50 years later: The INTP has created sentient refrigerators and fights the INFP's fairy army while the other personalities still argue about made up nonsense.
Oh-h-h-h!! Such a variety of MUSTACHES!! You really made my day with this one, Kristin.😁 EDIT: Just watched again with subtitles to get the full effect. Love it!! 🥸 The ENTP need to stir the pot, just for their own amusement, and the ENTJ need to win, even when they think the contest is stupid, fit well with my experience as an INTP. EDIT II: If a refrigerator is white, does an unobserved refrigerator still keep the milk cold?
What I took away from this skit: I have to clean my refrigerator. Genuinely, my family is coming to visit and it needs some cleaning. Thanks for reminding me ^^
This is SO much fun. I haven't even finished my first run-through yet and I have to post. ENTP: Prove me wrong. ISFJ: We all yearn for the day we can prove you wrong. Me: And hope will keep you alive. You're welcome. I should add that, while you skirt Carthesian self-acknowledgement, the color issue is one I've looked in to before and it turns out world really *did* used to be in black and white. Okay no it didn't, but what we didn't have until strangely recently given the thousands of years of history is common words for colors that everyone can agree on. Centuries ago a tree was simply tree-colored without any worry over its inherant treeness. But then how do we know we see the same colors to begin with? Because visible light wavelengths are a constant? Color-blind people don't see it the same. So it is the light that defines colors or ourselves? (I just got way too excited by this and wanted nothing more than to throw more idea-bombs into the fray and keep the discussion going, but alas. It's not a real discussion. Or is it?......) My daughter and I had a similar argument the other day when she insisted at the grocery that she needed one large punpkin cake instead of many small ones. I said there's no difference as they're all the same in their cakeness. She eventually won out, not because the cakes are any different, but because she turned something I said around on me. I don't actually remember what we said, but I was very proud. And this whole thing got away from me but I thoroughly enjoyed how meta the argument of the sketch got in the subtitles.
This is actually why a lot of animals that appear orange or yellow are called "Red." When they gained their name, there were few names for colors, and "red" was used as a catch-all term for anything vaguely that color. Also, the term "orange" referring to color actually comes from the fruit. The fruit was called an "orange" first, then the word came to be used for the color as well
3:57 Hey Kristin, I just realized. You gave a mustache to that sister who has a crush on the INTJ. For some reason, it felt so perfect that I didn't even notice that on my first watch.
i like how it's always intj that's onto something before most people are. while intjs are also not aware of their own surroundings cuz of that Se-inferior
Intp really went to Norway and took up gardening. Such an intp thing to do. He probably won't leave his lodging in Norway for months after this meeting, to charge after having his energy consumed by talking.
HAHAHA omg this was hilarious! 4:30 enfp to isfj exchange caught me off guard lol I was thinking - hmm great question enfp...brilliant answer isfj...good job my overactive Ni and zero Si haha 2:05 istp was hilarious but i agree. I'm somewhere in between an istp and an intp. istp can kill the abstractness (refreshingly so at times unless you needed to vent a thought) and intp needs to ascribe to axioms to stay sane imo. 1:34 you got the Ni heros down perfectly too.
Kristin you look fabulous in a top hat. 🎩I feel like you could make it a regular thing. Also, as an ENTP I appreciate how you disarm us by suggesting others only wish they could prove us wrong. Likely true, but one must never let down one's guard 🤣
ENFP was spot in able to debate with the best of them met also you wonderfully odd along with the INFP🤣 I name random things all the time 🤣 also the getting him to open up line 🤣🤣🤣
💬Turn on "UK captions" for a riveting sub-plot!!
Your captions are always very entertaining, Kristin! Thanks for the extra laughs! 😂🤣
That was amazing, best video in a while I think
By "sub-plot", don't you mean "continuation of the main plot which results in the discussion repeating itself over and over again in an endless time loop of questioning and re-questioning"?
(Loved it nonetheless)
This makes my life automatically better
Aw man I was really hoping for the ESTJ to say "is a refrigerator white?" in the end
XSXJs: Sees existence for what it was
XSXPs: Sees existence for what it is
XNXJs: Sees existence for what it could be
XNXPs: Isn't sure about the existence of existence
All true. Si focuses on the past, Se focuses on the present, Ni focuses on the future, and Ne... well, Ne at its best focuses on how past, present and future are connected, and at its worst has trouble focusing on anything at all. 🤯
XNXP is here to make you question everything and bring the folly 🎉
Huh. That certainly applies to me (INFTP).
@Kharui
Se - What is
Si - What was
Ni - What should be
Ne - What the fuck
@@MSte21 INFTP?
Apparently, Kristin bought a bunch of wigs and wanted to try them all out in one video.
I mean, Frank James has been updating his wig collection too. The wig stores are having plenty of buisness.
Also new moustaches
@@octoberbabybee A stash of 'staches? A 'stache stash?
Kristin used her cash-cache to buy a stache-stash 😄
I love the platinum blonde. I thought it looked really good on her.
ENTJ: Recognizes the pointlessness of the conversation. Still wants to win it 🤣
Cosmically speaking everything we do is pointless, so let's just enjoy it.
@@gorgonheap9770 But nothing will get done if we just enjoy ourselves. Wish life for ENTJs could be that simple.
ESFJ: literally ENTJ fan
@@crazynconfident ooph that hits home
@@gorgonheap9770 Why do you believe everything we do is pointless?
The real question-does Kristin wear the fake mustaches or do the fake mustaches wear Kristin?
is she even Kristin?? how do we even know that - that is a fake mustache??
I think that depends on the point of view, when we are the mustaches we are wearing Kristin, but the real question is, why are we doing that? Do we have any free will to decide by whom are we being worn?.. but then again if we 'are doing something' it means we have a mind of our own, so can the mustaches even wear Kristin if they are a subject, unless of course this particular mustaches are something more..
😂😂😂
"Why do people ask the wrong question?" YES!!! Plus glad you called INTP Jeff.
(ENTP) No wrong questions... just wrong answers. Lots of wrong answers.
@Kharui (INTP here) the right question would have been:
"How can we decide about anything if it is white or not?"
Or, in other words:
"What are the sufficient and necessary criteria of the whiteness of something?"
Once we have the answer to this question, we can also decide if the fridge (or whatever we have that we call a fridge) is white or not. All the other questions about what makes a fridge a fridge, who owns it, or what specific experiences certain people had with fridges, are secondary, and do not bring us closer to the answer.
@Kharui Sarcasm mostly, but on occasion I use irony.
@Kharui any question is a problem. A problem can be either ill-defined or well-defined. A well-defined problem has clear expected solutions, while the ill-defined does not have clear goals.
A right question is what seeks answer to a well-defined problem, or transforms an ill-defined problem to a well-defined one. A wrong question seeks answer to an ill-defined problem, or transforms a well-defined one to an ill-defined one.
The original question was a well-defined problem, since its expected solutions are clear (the fridge is either white, or not). The questions other philosophers asked would all drive the argument to ill-defined territories, since they argued the very premise of the original question itself.
@Kharui because asking questions is an algorithmization, and you need clear goals to produce an algorithm that solves a problem.
I am not saying that ill-defined problems are irrelevant, they are relevant, but propositional arguments do not provide the optimal grasps on them. They are usually approached by intuitive or participatory methods (like, if you want to know what love means, the best approach is to participate in it).
I love how ISTP always sees things for how they really are, and not as an abstract. The fact that their captions are literally "Milk Milk Milk" really seals the deal! 🥛😂
The fact that in another separate video, the ISTP captions said "bring me some milk"
It's all so related
I'm an ENFP, my brothers istp it's literally true
Apparently William of Ockham, the medieval philosopher who invented Ockham’s Razor (basically “don’t overthink things, fuck Ne”), was an ISTP.
Wait
I kinda relate to that
Things aren't "really are" any way; it's all shaped by our flawed & limited perceptions.
The only thing my fridge has ever said to me was “hey you, my door’s still open”.
I’m paraphrasing of course.
But you didn't explain the most important detail: What is your fridge's name?
My INFP named her car, her favorite pair of pants, all of her plants, and her dad's pager.
The level of attention to the angles of the background is most impressive - I now see what that diagram was for
Oh my gosh. Thank you for pointing this out. All this time I was trying to figure out a deeper meaning of the diagram. Is it a clock? Is it a S/N conversion table? Are the personalities taking on the philosophical personality of another personality? But as it turns out, as it always does, the true answer is a lot simpler and somehow more impressive.
Hehe good pick up! I didn't really notice the backgrounds -- I mean -- other than I want it, where ever it is. All of it.
I'd assumed that the diagram was just for keeping track of which way to face when speaking to others in the Great Circle of Philosophical Kristins.
Yeah the diagram was necessary so that I didn't mess up in which direction all the characters were to look when talking to one another! I have learned that some people pay attention to such details and I've been burned before when I got them wrong *regenerating beer bottle, I'm looking at you*. Unfortunately, because of who I am as a person, I STILL managed to mess one up.
@@dearkristin All beer bottles should be regenerating.
what diagram...?
This one deserves a part 2, doesn't it?
YES!
Hear, hear! I think it needs to be a whole series! Also, we need a musical based on these 16 philosophers 😄
Yes!!
Fully agree
Time to talk about the "inside" of the fridge🧐
As an INTJ studying philosophy at university, this is probably my favourite sketch you’ve done.
I'm taking a philosophy class too and it's so interesting that I'm thinking of doing a minor in it.
Wow you just waste your life
I'm curious. What do you want to do after this? Do you study it cuz it's a hobby or you plan to work in this field?
I will try it one day.
The moment they realise the fridge isn't a fridge... it's a freezer 🤣
You mean Todd has been lying to us all this time? Maybe he does deserve to be put into a box. Give him some time to think about what he has done.
I was thinking the exact same thing!!
I (an ISTP) have had debates with an INTP where I answered in the exact same way. This is so accurate 😂
Same.
I'm an INTP and i PRETTY sure one of my friends is an ISTP. And yes, that is pretty much exactly how some of our debates have gone... Usually ends with me just going "Fiiine... Have it your way". lol
Oh… you’re one of those people… 😂 Jk, jk
Sameee
I love the INFJ & INTJ rapport. TJ basically say everything FJ wants to but doesn't🤭 (that giggle is gold)
As an INFP there have been many times where I look up at the clouds in sky on a beautiful day and thought to myself ''I can't believe this is all real''.
Also recognized the INFP as soon as I saw them appear for that split second. Great video as always Kristin :) Now time to rewatch with UK captions
So other types don’t look at the world awestruck and wonder how it’s all real??
Oh no!!! INFP here. Thought the same thing.... HEY there is the INFP and yup.... look just like them.
@@annasavannah902 not as frequently as INFP. (I'm INTJ.)
And there are times where I feel like everything could be...just a dream
Idk, it's just reality feels so fake sometimes
And how am I in this body, how do I have this conscious and okay I need to stop
Same! Except I look at my hand. Skin in particular. Then I pinch it, breath on it, look at it intensely. Asking is this fucking real??? And then seconds later, be fascinated and happy that it is. I have no idea if this is actually real, but let's just say it is because it's what I can feel rn.
It's thesame idea to everything else, basically to humans, earth, planets, space, universe, minds, psychological behavior. Everything is so fascinating, existing is so fascinating!!! It's so amazing!!! Seeing colors is amazing! Emotions are amazing! Human nuances are amazing! Art is amazing! Knowledge is amazing! Dreaming is amazing! Basically everything!! Life and Death is amazing. And yet, out of all the people I know, it's myself who I think who's the most disappointed in living.
ps. excuse my English xD.
As someone from Norway, it was very fun and unexpected to hear!
-Istp :)
I'm sure the INTP will fit right in here 😅
Fellow Norwegian, I concur.
-INFP (that also somehow gets into the depth of the human condition and existence whenever a philosophical discussion props up rather than whatever the subject actually was)
ENTJ norwegian is now too, but this pointless philosoficals about a fridge is good practice for winning useless arguments😅
"You can't define a thing with itself [...] that leads to infinite recursion."
Haha Fibonacci sequence go brrr.
The ESTJ definitely chose to be chairman to have control and to not actually contribute anything because ESTJs being philosophers is a syntax error
Actually they have infp subconscious
@@malakashraf2801 and Ni point of least resistance. A Fi-Ne subconscious does not a philosopher make
@@modove2842 ne-fi quadra is literally called the philosophers , I think you guys over romanticize ni honestly .
@@malakashraf2801 of course ne-fi can be good philosophers, but when someone leads with or has aux Ne, they're also good at Ni. An ESTJ's biggest weakness is Ni. Why is this important? Because to put it colloquially, they're basically allergic to or even repulsed by the idea of invisible, convoluted Ni metaphors that exist totally outside of their efficient Te-Si world. It's not just being bad at something, but actively disliking it.
@@modove2842 cool , but my point is if fi-ne users are called the philosophers , then ne is more important than ni for this , and actually si-ne axis in general is more abstract than se-ni axis , and ne is liquid creativity more than any other function even ni . that's as far as j know , l follow csj .
I WOULD veto the term pool of energy all day every day.
That representation of INTJ was beautifully on point. :)
Pete44 is not using the power of the pool of energy. As an INFJ, tapping into the pool of energy is how I get out of bed in the morning.
@@stairwayscare5205 .
I have proven by experiments that coffee is the best energy source to get going.
And I get out of bed thanks to the power of (fear of failure).
I don't think the pool of energy you are talking about includes these two.
However I'm not gonna veto the term everything is relative therefore I'm not trying to start an argument.
@@pete4416 I'm only messing with you. The fear of failure is the only motivation for getting out of bed.
@@stairwayscare5205
XD good one
Agreed. As an INTJ myself, I also think that "collective consciousness" should be banned.
As an ISFP i hated every second of this 🤩
Magnificent! 🥰 Wonderful skit as always
As an INFJ I agree😭😭😭
What is the purpose of this, I can give solid points and close this philosophical conundrum but it’s pointless😭😭😭😭what do we gain out of this?
Agreed!! In college, I was forced to take a philosophy class and nearly died lol
~ fellow ISFP ✨
When you said the “issue on the table” I was thinking it was about to break into the cabinet meeting wrap from Hamilton.
The amount of times I sang this while editing
@@dearkristin and phahahah honestly it’s a banger! Fun fact me and my friends in year 7 when we were super into it used to do Hamilton wrap battles (that we of course called duels) on the school playground- very very fun
Loved this Kristin! Great little friendship between INTJ and INFJ
I have to watch this video again, at least ten more times so that I can absorb all the props and details. You've just created another classic, Kristin!
As an ISTJ I was once to have a discussion/debate in a class, whether we need commas in writing. The only thing I could thing about, was how absurd the whole discussion is, so my answer was "Why are we even discussing it?"
For a long time neither did I know what they're good for, but since I've realized that it is an evil scheme, so students who have committed an act unappreciated by the school, can lose points on them. A less absurd question is, Do we need spaces in writing?
@@bater6901 While spaces and pucunattion are deflniteiy neacssery in the English launagge, the order of letters maettrs a lot less than you'd think. Take a deeper look at the words in the first sentence here, you will notice you read it wrong, because some of the things aren't words at all, they're jumbled letters that seem to make words you know if you read quickly. In actuality I cannot know whehter you read this rhigt the frsit time or not, but if you did: this phenomenon is called Typoglycemia (although it's likely an urban myth that it's always possible).
@@andermium Yep cool thing, I call it brain cache
Because it's fun.
Hey youtube commenters! I just wanted to mention again that Kristin has a patreon goal that when she hits 500 patrons she's going to make "16 Personalities In A Musical." Let's make that happen!
Even if you can't afford the lowest patreon tier, I'm sure a custom pledge of any size would help her achieve her goal of becoming a full time content creator. Even a dollar would help! So, if her content entertains you, or enriches your life in some way, please consider donating!
WAIT SHE DOES?!! Already a Patreon but that’s so cool!
@@Meg_intheclouds I just had to laugh reading your comment. 😂 I'm glad you found out. sygos has been posting this under each and every one of Kristin's videos for months now, if not since introducing the goal together with restructuring the Patreon tiers in Mai (if I'm not mistaken).
Don't get me wrong, I'm not making fun of you, it's just so adorably enfp to being oblivious for so long and then so excited. 😍
(To be fair, it's easy to overlook on the Patreon page/app if you don't know it's there. And honestly on the mobile page on my iPad I can't find it at all. In the app it's under Membership.)
@@MichaelGrundler omg! Hahaha we love the oblivious ENFP 😂 it’s a full time job at this point! (Also don’t worry about me taking things the wrong way- I literally do not pick up on things when people are genuinely mean or rude it just all goes over my head- because oblivious to everything 😂 but yeah my point is I wouldn’t see it that way regardless- but yeah we love that)
Can you donate without Bank Account? I'm still a minor, so yea xD
@@twitzmixx8374 I'm not sure, but here's what Patreon has to say about that: "If you want to join a creator's membership as a patron or provide membership as a creator, you must be at least 18 years old or have permission from a parent or guardian." So, maybe you can ask a parent or guardian to donate for you? 😅
I love that the INTJ is the one to bring up Theory of Forms
Lmao those UK subtitles were perfection
I fear Kristin’s growing power
I'm not gonna lie. This very, very funny video only makes me want to meet an ENTP to have these convos with even more. Being an INFJ, our Ti's would run each other into overdrive
So true. ENTPs are just brilliant conversationalists and also hilarious!
INFJ and INTJ agreeing and snickering to/with each other the whole time is so funny
I'm an INTP but I relate with both ISTP & INTP so much.... When I know the answer is just "we have refrigator because i took milk from the refrigerator", while everyone are overthinking in discussion made me confused, so I just ended stay silent. But sadly I'm not that smart and too confused, got distracted with the discussion went, not realizing I actually know the real answer from the start 😭
I identified with the "wrong question" part, because I was waiting for someone to bring up light wavelength :C
@@dudeinadoughboy4327 Yes, that feels pretty realistic. It's like the question of what makes a woman? The question of the color of the refrigerator is like the question of the appearance of the woman. It is not the appearance that makes you a woman, but your function. Refrigerator, keeps milk cold - ISTP has just fetched milk from a functioning refrigerator - Of course there is a refrigerator in this house. Even if you unplug the refrigerator and make it unusable, it is and remains designed to be a refrigerator. You don't make an other thing out of it, even if you change the color.
I'm an INTJ but I related with the two as well. In fact I'd have left just like the INTP
Haha well done, I vibe with ENTP's skepticism in this one. Although I must point out that if we're going with epistemological sketpicism then we cannot make the claim at 3:22 without having an inconsistency.
Also, ESFP reasoned like a boss, great use of Ti. What a way to battle stupid stereotypes.
-INTP
The ENTP don't actually believes in that, but "prove me wrong" means they have enough arguments to make a good debate on it.
- ENTP
As an ISFP you got my response exactly right! I usually stay out of these type of conversations and finally chime in toward the end of the conversation with, “It doesn’t matter…. as long as….” Or “does it really matter?” I’m not generally that interested in deep philosophical debates unless it’s something I really care about personally or affects my life in some way. I don’t care to debate or argue.
I feel that everyone has a right to their own opinion and everyone’s feeling are valid. That doesn’t mean I don’t believe in absolute truth, because I do, but sometimes I feel that it’s better to have peace than debate and argue. And that’s just how I live my life 😎.
I can relate to ISTP and INTP conversation. We are on different planes as I(ISTP) generalize too fast for INTP to catch up. The ENTJ wig was brilliant.
i do not think INTP could not catch up. Quite the opposite, he sees what is ENTP asking and ISTP while using straightforward method to identify the fridge does cannot describe how he is doing it. And then the INTP realizes that instead of focusing on defining basics for answering the question, people are putting there irrelevant questions as they have different goals in it . And so he concludes it makes more sense to not waste any more time becasue the outcome is predictable and INTP does not have the skills and energy to keep people on track for to arrive at any meaningful conclusion.
@@jansvoboda4293 Well I did mention that we are on different planes which automatically means that while ISTP is generalizing using their Ti-Se, INTP might have traversed a 100 different options due to their Ti-Ne. But they do take time to reach to the conclusion because they negate a 100 options to reach there perfectly while ISTP doesn't consider those 100 options and might have used only 20-30 options present at the moment to generalize. Eventually they do each the same generalization but in a different way.
@@gapoorva5289 It's not about number of options here. It is about focus on obvious reality versus abstracting and confirming correctly the method and conclusion about it.
It is also more of a clash between ENTP Ne (how we know what we know) vs ISTP (we just know it is just in front of us).
INTP reads both and tries to mediate so that the actual question is answered.
ENT and ISTP are not cooperative in it. They are focusing on their own perspective. INTP concludes this road leads nowhere and disappears.
@@jansvoboda4293 Well if you are talking about ENTP-INTP-ISTP trio convo in the video then I agree what you say.
@@gapoorva5289 Yes.
Can I just say I absolutely love the ENTP Ace Attorney wig
you outdid yourself with this one
I love the level of "meta-humor"
ps: intj and infj being complicit in a group conversation is most accurate
Update: I re-watched the skit with UK subtitles and you REALLY outdid yourself
Like I laughed out hard... audible hard... not just your typical almost soundless "hmm haha" you do when you're watching someting on yoiur cellphone
ps: dear ESTJ, I mean, dear chairman, if my text has grammatical errors, plz spare me from your wrarth, as english is not my mother tonge
Yes, yes, this is what I was worried about with regards to the Moustache. It has begun
ISFP: Why does the fridge color even matter.
Yes, perfect. That is me thank you XD. I feel like they should have let her choose the next topic--
As an ENTP, can I just mention how erotically attracted I am to this philosophic conversation 😬
"Brother Giles" is an ancient ancestor of Jill, the ISTJ we all know and love, and you can't convince me otherwise
(Yes, I am keeping track of each name Kristin has used for the types. I do not feel guilty.)
Me too
"INTP took up gardening" i almost laughed to death LITERALLY. You are not supposed to be humbled. Sooooo proud of this punch!
Ah, loved the teaming up between the INTJ and the INFJ, pretty accurate depictions of me and my partner, well, apart from the cool look. 😂
The parallels between the plot and the sub-plot are always genius. Love it!
Actually...my ESFJ mum has literally told me that line from the sketch about not being able to stand the depth of my questions. ISFJ here. Cleaning is not the only philosophy subject that interests me though 🙃
"HOW DO WE EVEN KNOW WE HAVE A FRIDGE" comedy gold
Holy shit ,best one yet.Frank James crossover,let’s make it happen .Make it a multiverse event 😮
mbti multiverse hahahaha
i relate so much to the isfp- never really participating in a discussion, not understanding the waste of energy about something thats not worth to be discussed. love it.
enfp majoring in philosophy here and this is the finest seminar i have seen in a while😂
What if we all are in a Kristen skit 😳
Could we be the UK captions version of the skit?
Could we all be in ENFP Kristen's daydream?
Or in the daydream that is in the daydream of ENFP Kristen's daydream? Are we all centaurs...
INFP here.We're relatives,aren't we?😉
We can only hope the answers to all those questions were yes.
What if we're centaurs with human legs? Something to think about.
Fun fact: centaurs were humans that ride with their legs around the horse neck. But won't it be wonderful if they really existed? How would they travel? How could we make airplanes for then?
Nice reference XD XD
The costume budget has increased, I see.
I think this is my favorite 💖 it really shows how each personality thinks and what matters to them while being fun :) (also INFP "what if this is just a dream" and "we can never really know each other's feelings/thoughts" is so on point for me)
This might be the most clever sketch Kristin has ever done
Oh no....I have the giggles over them ESTP sunglasses again. 🤣You are the absolute master of props!
You cannot understand how much i needed this in my life.
INTJ
J'adore ! J'ai envie de revisionner cette vidéo, tellement elle est riche et fourmille d'idées ! Beau travail, bravo. (Le son - musique et murmures- en fond est très bien fait et apporte sa touche réaliste)
Is the « gardening » of the INTP a reference to Voltaire's Candide and therefore a metaphor of constant questioning and learning? 🤔
Because I doubt they have the energy for REAL gardening (too much maintenance)😂
I love everything about this skit. The brilliant, funny, beautifully written arguments about the refrigerator, the wigs, hats, mustaches, and most importantly, the INTP going to Norway 😂, and the refrigerator suddenly become Todd, thanks to the INFP 😂
Not to mention the sub-plot which is extra hilarious 😂
This is creatively crafted, Kristin 👍😂
The way INTP called the questions wrong and left without asking the right questions probably means that she already know the answer and is done with other's shit lmao
Gardening, no way...too much sunlight. Great video!
I'm very sure INTP mentioned Norway because it's cold there and the snow. Which is connected to the subject they're discussing.
-INTP
“We all yearn for the day when we can prove you wrong” laughs in ENTP
A huge hit at the Fe doms today
Also now we need to find out which type is truly the script writer
As an INFJ I would listen carefully during the whole discussion and then drop my indisputably superior opinion on the matter right when the chairman is about to announce the end of the meeting...once again proving my complete and utter superiority when it comes to philosophical analysis xD
INTJ uses
'Platos Cave' to describe a fridge.
INFJ (Yeah. In my head.) Real: I shoved it off a cliff. FIXED.
'Killing Joke' hat too.
And, your mustaches keep changing directions. 🙌 Really awesome! I love this. 💗
you can answer a question with the question! It's called the reflexive property, and is used frequently in mathematics.
ENTP being the only one asking the most important question: and how did we find out the things that we know about the fridge? Epistemology.
As an ISFP can I just say.. Kristin, your make-up is on point :)
I grew up close to INTP`s (Wittgenstein) cabin in Norway... apparently he would shout at locals even walking by his home as the merest sound would interrupt his trains of thought.
The debate between the ENTP, ISTP, and INTP was really the highlight of this video for me.
Also, the absurdity of discussing the whiteness of a fridge is not beyond me :)
My goodness. Kristin is mastering this craft.
This is a brilliant video! Especially as I've often been curious about how philosophical inquiry would be represented in each of the different personality types.
the essence of the refrigerator is all of its parts put together.
As an ISFJ, I more heavily related to the ISTJ and ISTP, until the “Everyone wants to prove you (ENTP) wrong.” comment, which was spot on.
I too as an INTP, just like the INTP in this skit, am displeased with the quality of questions from the group in the skit, and so am driven to move to Norway (UK subs: repurpose saved money) and take up gardening (UK subs: project car) as well, but that hobby soon fell by the wayside due to my inattentiveness towards physical and sensory things. The life of a hermit philosopher is the life for me.
Wow. ENFP (my type) was very accurate. "I believe life is about connection, too." "Can we veto to ban the phrase 'it's all relative'?"
"Does the color of the fridge help it do its job?"
BTW, I have an answer to that. White (or silver) reflects the heat off so it stays cold inside using less electricity.
One types asked what is a fridge? I ask, is a root cellar a fridge? If so, some fridges are brown! Or other dirt colors!
Loved the use of philosophical buzz words like "hedonism" to help us see how this is like every philosophy question ever. It is both interesting and pointless!
Glad the INTP avoided epicureanism!
Update: talked with my best friend about whether a white fridge is white, and decided it may not be a fridge, and mortal humans are incapable of seeing true white.
Technically a "white" fridge would be any color _but_ white. Things appear to be certain colors because they're actually reflecting that/those wavelength(s) of light, whilst absorbing the others!
So I suppose the color of the fridge would come down to: is it the color it's _perceived_ to be, or is it the color of those it _absorbs?_
And a fun little side note because I love Schrödinger's Cat, if the fridge is indeed the color that we _perceive_ it to be, does that then mean that an object only gains color once it's perceived at all? 🤔
(Or I guess put another way, if an object is the color of that we perceive it to have, if we are not looking at it, is that object then colorless until we _can/do_ perceive it?)
Ah yes, this is exactly how I make decisions- my OCs are sitting in a group discussing topics and it ultimately ends in total chaos but helps be make a decision. The ENTP not shutting up and having to be right coupled with my main character an ESTP getting defensive, while the ESTJ and ENTJ fight over who should be leading the group, the INFP is just chilling in the corner dreaming of something nice, and the ENFP is enjoying a pleasant conversation with Todd.
Great video as always, I definitely don’t give names to our appliances such as Howard The Duck for our annoying microwave or Iceman for our refrigerator…
My type has the smallest screen time, but with a quite valid point!
*ISFP*
Nice to see the intj (my personality) having a lot to say in this video
As an intp, I can attest to the benefits of gardening 🧐🌱. Plants make excellent sounding boards.
Thanks for the fun video Kristin 👏.
"A fridge is a fridge... is a fridge" Sounds like something I would say
Im going to Norway! My whole family tend to be intp im the one infp that causes such a stir by bringing feelings into the fray... We are of Norwegian ancestry and from what I can tell that is so accurate! Including the gardening! Lol
I like to think that the INTP taking up gardening is a continuation of the "unfamiliar pot plant" arc from the easter egg hunt video
50 years later: The INTP has created sentient refrigerators and fights the INFP's fairy army while the other personalities still argue about made up nonsense.
The istp and their milk: still a better love story than Twilight.
Oh-h-h-h!! Such a variety of MUSTACHES!! You really made my day with this one, Kristin.😁
EDIT: Just watched again with subtitles to get the full effect. Love it!! 🥸
The ENTP need to stir the pot, just for their own amusement, and the ENTJ need to win, even when they think the contest is stupid, fit well with my experience as an INTP.
EDIT II: If a refrigerator is white, does an unobserved refrigerator still keep the milk cold?
Confirmed I am an ISFP … says one who believes a fridge is thing you just open for food 😆 and know the food in there i chose at last shopping trip.
It seems kristin had a lot of fun with mustaches. And wigs. And epistemology. ;)
It's funny how weird you or your videos can get, but I like that since I like weird stuff if that makes any sense! (ENFP here) ^-^
What I took away from this skit: I have to clean my refrigerator. Genuinely, my family is coming to visit and it needs some cleaning. Thanks for reminding me ^^
This is SO much fun. I haven't even finished my first run-through yet and I have to post.
ENTP: Prove me wrong.
ISFJ: We all yearn for the day we can prove you wrong.
Me: And hope will keep you alive. You're welcome.
I should add that, while you skirt Carthesian self-acknowledgement, the color issue is one I've looked in to before and it turns out world really *did* used to be in black and white. Okay no it didn't, but what we didn't have until strangely recently given the thousands of years of history is common words for colors that everyone can agree on. Centuries ago a tree was simply tree-colored without any worry over its inherant treeness.
But then how do we know we see the same colors to begin with? Because visible light wavelengths are a constant? Color-blind people don't see it the same. So it is the light that defines colors or ourselves?
(I just got way too excited by this and wanted nothing more than to throw more idea-bombs into the fray and keep the discussion going, but alas. It's not a real discussion. Or is it?......)
My daughter and I had a similar argument the other day when she insisted at the grocery that she needed one large punpkin cake instead of many small ones. I said there's no difference as they're all the same in their cakeness. She eventually won out, not because the cakes are any different, but because she turned something I said around on me. I don't actually remember what we said, but I was very proud.
And this whole thing got away from me but I thoroughly enjoyed how meta the argument of the sketch got in the subtitles.
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This is actually why a lot of animals that appear orange or yellow are called "Red." When they gained their name, there were few names for colors, and "red" was used as a catch-all term for anything vaguely that color. Also, the term "orange" referring to color actually comes from the fruit. The fruit was called an "orange" first, then the word came to be used for the color as well
3:57 Hey Kristin, I just realized. You gave a mustache to that sister who has a crush on the INTJ. For some reason, it felt so perfect that I didn't even notice that on my first watch.
i like how it's always intj that's onto something before most people are. while intjs are also not aware of their own surroundings cuz of that Se-inferior
I'm an INTJ with a master's degree in philosophy. I enjoyed this a lot, lol.
Hahahhaha this one is brilliant!! 🤣 Love the 'fridge is white' throwback too, hahahahhaha
Intp really went to Norway and took up gardening. Such an intp thing to do. He probably won't leave his lodging in Norway for months after this meeting, to charge after having his energy consumed by talking.
HAHAHA omg this was hilarious!
4:30 enfp to isfj exchange caught me off guard lol I was thinking - hmm great question enfp...brilliant answer isfj...good job my overactive Ni and zero Si haha
2:05 istp was hilarious but i agree. I'm somewhere in between an istp and an intp. istp can kill the abstractness (refreshingly so at times unless you needed to vent a thought) and intp needs to ascribe to axioms to stay sane imo.
1:34 you got the Ni heros down perfectly too.
"A fridge cannot be defined by its fridgeness!"
So true 😆
Kristin you look fabulous in a top hat. 🎩I feel like you could make it a regular thing. Also, as an ENTP I appreciate how you disarm us by suggesting others only wish they could prove us wrong. Likely true, but one must never let down one's guard 🤣
Never thought universal relativity is equivalent to "you do you, boo" 😂
Also INTP's name is Jeffrey lol nice one Kristin
ENFP was spot in able to debate with the best of them met also you wonderfully odd along with the INFP🤣 I name random things all the time 🤣 also the getting him to open up line 🤣🤣🤣