Magnus Carlsen on Cheating in Chess, Being the GOAT, and Retiring from the Game..
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- Magnus Carlsen sits down for an EXCLUSIVE interview with Chess.com after the new year to learn what Magnus thinks about the cheating scandals now gripping the chess world, what's next for him after winning it all at the World Cup and more!
0:00 - Intro
0:13 - Magnus Playing In the Candidates
0:50 - What would the format have to be for Magnus to Compete
1:46 - What keeps motivating Magnus to compete?
2:21 - Is there ANYTHING left for Magnus to accomplish?
3:57 - What is Magnus' vision for chess?
5:08 - How can fans be involved in high level chess?
6:09 - What risk does cheating have to chess?
8:36 - What can organizers do to prevent cheating?
10:48 - How does psychology play into a chess game?
12:48 - How has chess.com been as a partner for your vision?
13:29 - What can chess.com do differently?
14:17 - What can fans expect out of Fantasy Chess?
14:56 - What does Magnus think about FIDE?
15:31 - If Magnus was running FIDE what would he do differently?
15:40 - Outro
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Carlsen is the only dude who can look so disinterested and interested at the same time😂😂😂
It's cuz he already predicted each question and planned his exact response several interactions earlier.
@@jackalope901blud premoved his answers
🤣🤣🤣 perfectly said .
That is so freaking hilarious lmao 🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️
It's quite normal for Scandinavians actually. It's a common disposition for them.
Him explaining why Fischers should have classical time controll and classical games should have shorter time is such a goat move
SO true
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Gukesh showcases that you can be better in classical than in faster time controls, while playing fighting chess and not relying heavily on prep. I dont agree with Magnus about that one.
The worst he can say is no
"Something must have gone wrong with my life for me to be running FIDE"
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"seriously wrong" 😂
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In chess online, It would be nice if you had the levels 2800 and 2851.
"Something seriously would have gone wrong in my life to be running FIDE" - Magnus
why run from fide wtf
I think they meant run for FIDE not run from FIDE@@xxx333mmm
you know english ?@@xxx333mmm
@@xxx333mmm Read it again
@@xxx333mmm He didn't say run from. He said running, as in making decisions for the whole chess world.
How do you want the world to remember Magnus Carlsen?
"I want to play for a while still, so I don't want to be remembered anytime soon." 🐐👑
He is to young to think " how world would remember him" ...The question is not the best,and answer is logical
Yeah it was a weird question. After hearing the question my initial answer for him was: I really hope I'm not going to die anytime soon
❤
I think one of the most enduring parts of his legacy will be not defending his world title. It's such a blow to FIDE's credibility that the best player in the world isn't interested. I think part of his decision is strategic, to weaken FIDE's control of top-level chess so the game can grow in new and interesting directions.
Makes sense
I don’t think that’s why he did it….. that maybe was a FACTOR but, I think he was very blunt and honest when he said he just didn’t care for this format anymore
It’s absolutely exhausting to prepare for these matches, and at this point he just had nothing more to gain by continuing to participate
This is such a good point.
@@ifbfmto9338 and Who controls the Format? FIDE
I don't think that was part of the reason for his decision - but I do think it's a welcome bi-product for him. It's pretty clear that Fide is a nightmare organisation, so not having to deal with them must be a relief - and seeing their grip on the game weaken as a result must be gratifying.
we’re all lucky to be around during this fellas reign, what an ambassador for the game 🐐
Absolutely
Except him rage quitting that once that resulted in a lawsuit, I agree.
I'm glad that he brought a lot of attention to Chess. Even if he leaves, it's not something that we'll forget! Thank you, Magnus!
@@TB-qz4uz I am too if he's willing to play Hans in the future.. That's the time we'll know if it's all truly behind us.
@@matthewspears3786keyword is "once", bro has been the face of chess for literally a decade so he gets a pass for that
3:17 "Triple crown the FIRST time was fun" 😂😂😂
implying the second and third times were a chore and a bore
@@BryceRogers_It's funny that he would have to clarify which time, as it would be an incredible achievement even just once.
1:34 the GOAT 🥶
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savage. lol
high praise to Fischer from Magnus. Basically confirming what Bobby said and also wanted for chess
Fischer, the best pattern recognition of an entire global generation.
Actually Magnus already said that he thinks Fischer wasn't anythign special. he seems to rather dislike him.
@@rindenauge3426 There is no reason to 'dislike' Fischer; unless it is a personal opinion, but personal/emotional opinions dont matter. And im sure Magnus, being a professional, is more mature than that.
@@bevs9995 Watch his videos of ranking chess champions. He gave Fischer the lowest score, because to him Fischer wasn't "sane" enough (whatever that is supposed to mean). He basically thinks Fischer was a lunatic, which is very disrespectful.
Also Magnus didn't confirm here what Fischer said at all. He just mentioned Fischer's statement to say that it was incorrect... It wasn't an act of praise but of disrespect.
"if you want to find the best player in the world, you don't have to look through all the time controls. You can just look for my name"
what a gigachad lol
Straight baller.
crazy reply😂
Well, but it is also the truth.
@@ragnarwiik2054thats what makes it so gigachadly
That was a Boss move for sure. Magnus a beast!
I'm actually really pumped about fischer random at long time controls.
same rapid makes no sense let those players think and use their skills/
@@HexxuSz pure calculation oh yeaaah
Cant wait for that tour
no one in this thread said the word chess but you @@georgerivera278
@@georgerivera278I honestly think it captures chess better than chess itself but to each their own lmao
@@notemdyyyfr the most interesting part of chess is seeing people chose what to do in a position not watching 20 moves of computers playing each other
I 100% agree with Magnus. The "best chess player" shouldn't just be all about study, prep, openings and variations. It should be THE BEST CHESS PLAYER at everything CHESS, period.
It's bit harder when there are multiple people and each is best at one of those things. How do you rank them?
But at present times, as Magnus himself said, just look for his name... It was a joke, but it was also the truth
Ironically, Fischer random is the only world champion title Magnus has never won
@@thebcwonder4850i mean, Fischer random the most irrelevant format in chess lmao
@@incognito5416 captures chess more than memorizing 20 moves of engine theory
You say that while Magnus thinks it's much better @@incognito5416
A refreshingly candid admission that he is not a creative player and, in that same regard, an interesting comparison with Anand! Magnus has shown time and again that the key to chess success is a mastery of the endgame, but most strong players tend to get bogged down in opening preparations and devote less time to endgames.
I'm one of these players you describe. My goal is to play aggressive, fun chess. End games aren't fun for me so I don't care to get good at them. I think this is why I've never found Magnus that interesting to watch.
@@allanshpeley4284Depends on your definition of fun. To say that Magnus’ playing is not fun, is an exaggeration. It’s fun for the majority of the players. And you can’t deny that is effective as well. He’s the best.
@@estebanrojasr It's definitely effective and he's objectively the best. It's just not as entertaining to me as many of the greats of the past such as Morphy and Tal. I mean it's kinda fun watching him troll his opponents from time to time then play like a computer and win regardless. But it's not fun in the "sac 3 major pieces, then your queen and mate by force" kind of way.
Bro thinks he is magnus
Yeah, how about another generic comment like "This guy seems good at chess, I think he has a bright future"
Wtf is happening to comments
@@Steven_Williams_ how about another generic Karon whining in the comments 💀
@@wooshy8325 Nah, nobody wants that.
@@Steven_Williams_exactly
nepo is following magnus's approach, he is playing wild lines in the opening to play positions that will test his opponent's chess knowledge rather than opening prep
There should be a new 'overall' world championship format. Simplify everything. Only rating spots. Average FIDE rating of blitz, rapid and classical over the last year, 8 highest rated players(excluding the current champion) play a candidates tournament. Format for the World Championship Match could be 3 mini-matches for example: 6 classical games, 12 rapid games, 24 blitz games. Maybe even a Fisher-Random round? That would bring out the best player overall and would be incredibly awesome to watch.
That actually sounds like a lot of fun even if it didn’t replace a classical world championship
You can see him come to life when he is talking about new and exciting things, and when he thinks the questions are boring. Fantasty chess sounds amazing.
NGL, rook is best pick in fantasy chess
the second the word FIDE came out of her mouth you could feel the vibe tensing af and when he said that he was independent from them was like GLORIOUS man you felt the chills too right? so proper for the one and only Magnánimo, Magnate, Majestuoso Carlsen
Terrific interview... Love the idea of fantasy chess, hope we get that asap. What he said about Chess and Chess 960 makes perfect sense; What ppl dont realize and fide as well, is the theory rn is totally diff than the past and combined with all the engine there are today, makes no sense at all to still playing the old classical format, we are in a different era, dont need to abolish the classical control, but lower a bit its the obviously needed change.
When the boomers are finally gone in the FIDE management/council/whatever the chances surely will increase
no. 6 match classic and 6 match classic-fischer-random. This is the perfect mix for the world chess championship
what is fantasy chess?
@@rodrigo9293 It's about sports betting. Picking your players and winning if they win.
Him saying don't worry about that is for other candidates 😂
Always thought the world championship should be a mix of all 4 main time controls, 1 day bullet, 2 days blitz, 2 days rapid, 2 days classical. Largest accumulated points wins.
Then there's no way anyone would be near magnus total points, because he is the greatest allrounder ever existed.
Bullet is not really a "main" time control. It's not even really a thing OTB
Chess is planted in thinking, so Bullet should be out of the question. Many players have no idea what they're doing in Bullet chess anyways.
The title should read "The GOAT on being Magnus Carlsen"
2:38 he's not "retiring," from classical chess and tournaments due to fire burning out, but because he just wants to play more games and improve his skills. Probably how he's been of the most mentally stable chess standouts
Probably. While he didn't mention it, classical chess places a HUGE amount of mental strain on you to find the best moves, simply by giving you so much time to use.
That time that Magnus played out a near certain draw to a win was a genuine accomplishment for him, but it wasn't really chess, and it wasn't much fun either. There's only so many times you can do that before your brain snaps in half.
Great interview - and a great quote about Fide at the end.
Yes, there have been many champions and masters to contribute and improve the game's reach. But what this man is doing right now for the game just when people is full of entertainment and ways to get fun is amazing!! This man is not only maintaining the game alive but looking for innovation, bringing everyone to the boards again, showing the way as the chess goat he is and in such a humble way. Astonishing!!
Good interview; you can tell Carlsen is engaged/interested with the questions
I love watching top level chess players battle it out.
Such a lucid and utterly honest man. Thank you Magnus for bringing this level of honesty to us.
Well thought out answers offered in a candid manner. Respect.
2:31 "I haven’t thought too much about what goals I want to achieve or anything. I just like to play. I mean, it’s basically as simple as that". Amazing.
magnus bringing up chessboxing made my heart smile, im not sure but i think the super smash melee community did a big part in this >.
That last reply was golden LMAO
DA GOAT...... Respect !!🐐💯
I'm sure Carlsen will be pivotal in the inevitable evolution of chess formats( especially Classical ) in the years to come.... FIDE is basically delaying the inevitable at this point....
Chess world DESERVES to have the best player by far compete in the biggest title.....coz as we're seeing currently with Ding Liren's Shambolic performances in Tata Steel this year.....if you become Classical champion WITHOUT beating the previous champion and best player.....the title loses its SIGNIFICANCE, and you end up with a PSEUDO champion, who's not even a clear 2nd best in the world, let alone the best!!
It's fair to say that at this point.... Classical World Championship ( and Chess overall ) needs Carlsen more than he needs it....that's how MASSIVE his impact has been!!
Fantasy chess would be so freaking fun. It would make people learn more about lesser known players and a dynasty league would go crazy
The GOAT 🐐 knows when someone is cheating because his brain is a mf computer. 2 years since he played a WC and he could win it with his eyes closed quite literally if he wanted to. Why on earth would he play these 3 or 4 hour games when it's much more fun for the players and the viewers when the time controls are much shorter. Which is obviously why he said he'd come back if the times were less in the classical games. Bro doesn't need the extra time and he gets bored sitting there waiting on his opponent to make a move. 💀 Long live the 🐐
You wish. He was beated many times by lower players.
@@flyandshy00 Liar.
@@flyandshy00oh please show me the "many" games he has lost against low players
cope, he gave a 2600 performance in the game with Hans, and he gave 2650, simple as that, that`s just engine facts. Also Levy, Rosen, Hikaru all think Hand didn`t cheat in the game.
The Magnus glaze needs to stop
Greatest player is also a great ambassador and promote of the game.
Chess and us chess fans are so lucky to have him
Magnus is the GOAT. I love what he is doing for chess on the board and off it. He has really brought a new generation of people interested in chess.
If you play like Bobby Fischer, that's all the psychological advantage you need.
I also hope that people listen to Sven's opinions on Fischer Random relative to Standard Chess. It makes total sense.
Very cool interview, hearing him talk about Fischer random in classical time controls is very interesting. Unfortunately I see FIDE as being the biggest roadblock in the future of chess, very old and outdated organization, stuck in tradition.
Fantastic questions, absolutely the things I would want to ask!
Might be the most honest interview of Carlsen.
Most interviews are just random questions.
Number 1 takeaway I fully support: Is advancing the public interest in the game by changing the format and rules like has been done in tennis and other sports. Including adding shorter time limits. 1 minute bullet is a little fast for most audiences to follow but 3’ - 30’ is a range that most of us can follow live. Furthermore most of us play 30’ - 3’ games which they can identify with. Longer games do result in more quality moves, deeper calculations. For fans a game that provides each player more than an hour is not going to capture a following of large numbers of potential fans. This doesn’t require any changes in the basic rules. Stalemates and ties are a barrier to building a fan base but I don’t know how that would be addressed.
Great insights from Magnus about various aspects of his chess journey. Respect for his honesty and perspectives on different chess-related topics.
i swear this man reeks of intelligence😂every response always perfectly logical and reasonable. also really glad he didn't try to estimate the prevalence of cheating...
Oozes intelligence would be a better fit here as reeks has a negative connotation 👍
He answers very comedically and doesn't dive into areas that are more unfamiliar to him
Probably was given the questions in advance to make sure nothing inappropriate asked and also opportunity to think about the answers
"Fancy Chess" - Magnus
Haa! That's what I thought they were saying at first.
@@TweetyPAK7 So did the auto-generated closed captions.
@@zabustifu 😂😂😂
What is the Chess 960 tournament in classical time control? I have been looking forward to something like this happening!
I'm really looking forward for more Fisher Random chess.
He has so much class when he's talking. He looks like he is playing chess or something.
Being alive during Magnus' reign is what it must have felt like for chess fans in the 60's and 70's during the reigns of absolute giants like Fischer and Karpov.
WCC classical format idea 💡
* 16 games
* 2.5 hour time control with 30 minutes added at 40 moves and 3 seconds added per move at move 40.
* a tie = champion retains the title (no speed games)
We want to see Magnus back at the world championship!!!
Fischer Random is fantastic
Excellent Interview!
A masterclass interview from Magnus Carlsen
Ahhh I'm so excited to see 960 classical I didn't know it was happening. No idea why 960 has been mostly rapid control. It requires way more calculation than regular chess.
Someone PLEASE ask him exactly what time controls and how many games would interest him in returning to the WC cycle. FIDE's standard time control? Norway Chess time controls? 90+30 with no additional time? He's had the same answer for ages now but no one has bothered to ask for more specific detail for how he wants the match to look??
He already said it in the past.
i thinkat the past he said that reducing it to 1 hour and have 2 match in 1 day is a start for him to consider taking the title back
If FIDE consider the change,
Then the time will then be discussed.
It's just not there yet ✌️
Why should everyone else adapt to him?
Would a tennis grandslam be reduced to 3 set matches because Djokovic says so?
@@Phurngirathaana Its not about adapting to him its about making chess more marketable. The main reason chess hasnt grown popular is because the game might go on for 7 long hours and still end in a draw. No one wants to sit and wait for half an hour just to see some european guy push a pawn one square.
"What do you think of FIDE?"
"No comment."
I mean that really says it all doesn't it?
I completely agree with the popularization of Fischer random under classical time control. It would make for very dynamic games, and could also work especially well for a broadcast if there are a couple concurrent games to follow. I don't completely agree with entirely phasing out classical chess from elite games, but rather the classical games played should quickly descend into lower time controls after each game.
Yet the last moments of nepo vs ding in the fide world championship was the best chess drama I've ever seen.
960 is the future. No preps, no memóry boring stuff
Fischer said that long ago like in 2006? Chess 960 was his idea. he was saying that even back then when he was active? The guy was super smart, that is why he is the real GOAT not Magnus.
@@lashaxoperia5917 🤨
so humble and cocky at the same time, got to love him.
Sometimes he's cocky, but he has admitted before that he's not the GOAT yet. He has said he's not real impressed with Fischer, but he believes Kasparov is the GOAT and the MJ of chess. He mentioned it on Lex Fridmans podcast a year ago when they asked him who the GOAT was. He could have easily been dishonest and cocky and called himself the GOAT. He did say he needs more longevity to do it, and that he's trying to. Definitely not a cocky answer to that question. I know at other times he has been cocky. Basically said he has no current rivals, and that if you go below that then Hikaru is next, lol. I thought it was funny though.
fischer random with classical time controls would lead to some insane games and i hope it becomes a bigger thing
Such a smart and real guy, answering questions with honesty! Goat does what goat wants, respect!
He pronounced Wijk aan zee correctly, I respect that :D
03:57 That's really a cool idea! Three Crowns: Classic (Fischer Random), Rapid & Blitz (Standard Chess). The fourth, of course (tradition is tradition), will be the old World Championship, but perhaps it would end up losing a bit of prestige if what the best players aspire to is to be the 960 king, leaving the old one for "opening tryhards"? I mean, today is only Magnus, but maybe if in 10 years a significant % of the ¿top 10-15? refuses to play it out of "boredom", it wouldn't seem crazy to me the lost of prestige. But hey, there's no need to give up anything, although the rise of a Fischer Random Championship with Classic TC is a breath of fresh air.
Great interview!
The GOAT answers and explanations,wishes,thats is on us to think how to promote chess even further,...Magnus is defenetly the one who singlehandadly put chess on onother level forever...and if anything,thats for that if not for all his titles will be remembered...I salute you my king of chess,im just talking my experiance and wonder how and all the beauty in end game is enough for me to like chess now even more...thank you Magnus for being fair and for all the good promotions you do for game of chess...lot to learn from you...but thank you for almost 2decades of unbeliveable beauty in playing chess,which for evertyone now is not boring but very exiting,thats what is your biggest accomplishment...its exciting,thrilling,always wanting more,higher and even more fan base for all world of chess,thank you Magnus for all of that..keep going strong,just like you said I play for fun for enjoyment,that tells everything,you simply love chess,that enough for me...god bless you,for many more years of good chess games played...🎉❤ thank you king kong mr.king of chess Magnus Carlsen.❤
After a long time with nice haircut, bro looking damn good.
They both pronounce fantasy like fancy and I’m here for it. Bring on fancy chess!
That's what I thought too! I was wondering what the hell is fancy chess?? 😂
@@JonaasK 'Xactly! 😂 I'd rather see fancy chess than fantasy chess.
A great answer for the future of chess.
Fisher random with classical time controls for the world champion ship.
Classic chess relegated to fast time controls.
LET'S GO! Fischer Random Classical
This interview has made for us to believe that he's also "just" a human!
Finally a good interviewer. He felt really comfortable. 😊
Its Kaja Snare who he has known for a decade or more, and who is from Norway as well. So there you go
@@niranjanrajesh1058 Thank you 🙂
That last part about running FIDE is hilarious.
Fantasy for titled Tuesday would be super cool
Bro doesn’t blow his own trumpet, trumpets blow bro😎
What
Stepped down so others could have a chance is the true truth
I agree on Fischer chess being slower and classical chess being rapid or blitz. Nobody would watch a 5 hours game in a championship match. But if you know it's rapid or blitz, then it gets exciting. I think he's right, the future of chess has to be that way...
I don’t quite understand fantasy chess. Is it kinda like a bet on who will win a match?
want to know that as well.
It's basically like fantasy football where you pick your own team based on performance stats, but it's for chess
Hey! Fantasy Chess, I assume, would be based off the fantasy football model as previously mentioned. In fantasy football, you choose a starting lineup of 11 players out of any players in the relevant league/competition and gain points for each out of the 11 players depending on how they perform (5 points for goals, 3 for assists, etc.) adding up to a total point tally to compare to other players. In chess, you would probably choose 4/5 players in a competition (or in a tour?) and gain points for wins, draws against significantly higher rated opponents as well as %accuracy.
Thanks, guys!
Levy never fai....wait....
lmao
Very interesting. When you have achieved the highest recognition and financial wealth in any field, what keeps you going is having fun with it. Magnus is a very mature competitor, also one of the most dominant player in anyfield ever. There is something to learn there
What is the name of the game?
The difference between world championship and other strong tournament is not the time control, but the 1-on-1 nature plus long preparation time before the world championship. Magnus probably feel that opponents were so well prepared for world championship , make the games mostly just draws. (not really true for last WC though)
You just cannot hate this man, great interview
12:25 was amazing
I'm not a tournament player. just a life time hacker who loves the game. But one thing I've picked up on is how many of the top great players have all had issues with Fide. my only regret is as an Octogenarian I I don't have time to engross in tournaments etc. things that I wanted to do but life and family responsibilities came first. Que sera sera. I can still enjoy it herein cyber space. Thanks for sharing. ECF
Regarding fisher random (or chess 960) I really hope that u wont need to study openings for all 960 different starting positions in order to gain an advantage right from the start. I would probably stop playing then😅
you already know some sweaty autistic indian is gonna do it
are you farting serious? there will ofc be theory on strategies but not the usual deep prep. its ridicukous..
@@paulgoogol2652 Fair enough, good point!
The fantasy chess isn't starting yet right?
I think I heard Fancy Chess.. (?)
"I don't want to be remembered anytime soon" Is the realest statement 😪
i hope that fischer random takes off because it's so much more interesting to play and watch imo, it makes people rely less on boring theory memorization and just play good well thought out chess
In my opinion a lifetime ban from any competetive chess is the right answer you never cheat by accident.
Agree
Regardless of the context?
Well give an example but any examples i can think of i would say yes.@@mark5071
"I don't believe in psychology" - The famously sane Bobby Fischer
Can we get focus mode on mobile app now
What’s the background music ?
Magnus is right, changed format shall help players to beat super computers in future,it's challenge, FIDE should change its format or atleast try new once what he says ,dear FIDE ❤❤
The running FIDE question😂 Absolute GOAT🏆
I think WC should be decided by point accumulation of mixed format: Classical (1hr+40 move time control) for 40% of points, rapid: 20%, Blitz: 20, ches960: 20%. Where they play the shorter format last.
For most ppl a 5hr game is too long to be watchable, you just watch hikaru or agad recap the game, but then there is no surprise element.
Thank you, Norway! Magnus represents the honesty, the decency and the reality check that chess needs to move to the next level. FIDE is a spent force, basically representing the Cold War power structures. If we're not participating, dark forces will take over and further soil our beautiful game. Magnus not playing classical time controls is a serious blow to those dark forces. As lovers of chess, we must be grateful that it's not Putin's puppet Karjakin who's the final boss. Ding represents a dictatorship. Magnus represents us, the people...
Magnus will always be remembered for chess livestreams featuring an in-house background “mixmaster” relentlessly fidgeting headphones and laptop with zero noteworthy improvement to the budget music.