@@joyceracing99 I just got a TOL a few days ago as well. If you guys aren't already on Point 65 (pointsixtyfive.com), you should sign up and find the forum for our hiring bid.
Karthika Sravani it’s recommend that you go to a 2 year college and major in aviation science prior to applying to the faa academy. People that are taken off the street have a very high dropout rate
@@d.n.3652 Totally false, from everything I've read people say the opposite. Don't go to college for this, basics and the academy teach you everything you need to know.
@@chrispaulbd people off the streets have a 90% drop out rate. I’ve been in aviation for a while now and I can tell you that there is a lot of information to learn. I’m not saying my way is the one correct way, but schooling definitely does help.
@@brrc8 I remember that from years ago when I was looking into it I was wondering if that was still the case. I saw a couple people of the video that looked like they were well over 31.
@@tomdavison9107 Will it be alright for a person with no experience to be on this job (I mean you will get train though, but have no experience before getting trained)? I also heard this job is stressful at most times is it true
Xu Shu First you have to get accepted at the school and go through the training. You will receive addition training when you get to the job. You can get into the school with no prior experience, but there are people who go to college ATC programs as well as controllers from the military who apply.The best way to find all the info you need is to look on the FAA website or the website for the school in Oklahoma. Good luck.
Why cant AI do that job? A cluster of computers can track and send multiple instructions to multiple planes vs humans who can only speak to one plane at a time.
We don’t even have full automation together in cars. You think “AI” at this point can control air traffic. I don’t know if understand the pure scale and cost at implementing a fully automated unmanned airport.
@@RichKilla86ers yea, system would be not replace controllers, but turn controllers into monitors. Personally, I don't even predict we would need less. However, we would need what we have now, which already is a shortage. 2 ways to fix shortage problem: hire more or automations and use what we have. I think it's possible to take repetitive, low risk tasks off ATCs to do manually, so they can oversee the system to ensure it's operating properly and they still get final say. This helps so they can focus on high priority clustered areas, or operations during bad weather, or high priority alerts. Or in general leverage new tech ML and AI to help with situational awareness. From a tower, you can see planes, but you have no idea the seperation between them (hence wings clip like they did in Boston few weeks ago) or runway incursion where a aircraft accidently comes onto the wrong runway (happens often oddly). I think it's possible, tbh. I am exploring right now how feasible it is and what micro problems to start off with.
@@myebbad I think you have a point and I agree: impossible to go from 0 t 100 for AUAs. (industry likes acronyms lol). However, lets go from 0 o 10? Just like anything historically has ever done to make progress, even in this industry does with implementation of TCAS, ADSB, Datalink, etc etc. To your point comparing cars - aircrafts in sky are much easier to manager than cars on road. Reasons: (1) only focusing on aircraft to aircraft distances. No pedestrians to mess things up, which is often common reasons for accidents (2) skys to have highways (vectors) that aircrafts go on, so it's not free for all. Just like cars essentially (3) seperating is much bigger than cars and you'd have time to trigger a pilot to make changes to altitude, speed, and direction. Faster than you do with cars on roads (4) if you need to install a system to help make this happen on aircrafts, there is only primary 2 you have to work with (Airbus and Boeing) vs 10s of models of cars you'd have to all get on the same system, which is likely impossible. (5) ATCs are a very high salary individuals, so we can't just expect with rise in aviation, the solution is to always keep hiring more ATCs. Gotta work with less eventually. Not scalable model IMO. I know I am only pointing out pros, but there are likely equally amount of cons. I just mean to say, yes it's feasible to have full automation in aircrafts. Heck with autopilot pilots already are monitoring vs controlling the plane between depart and arrivals. Why not offer similar systems to ATCs?
"Some of the greatest learning takes place when you don't always do it correctly."
That's a great quote
Getting ready to apply next month guys wish me luck!
#metoo, it's open now
@@joeymoffett00 link??
How do I start this journey
Also in which class are they taught the phrase "I have a number for you to call" :)
Those “students” look older than the 30 year old or under requirement lol
Probably because they’re so stressed out. That job has to be the most stressful job ever.
I just got accepted for this. Anyone have any advice or experience?
I did as well. We should find a way to keep in contact and help each other along the journey.
@@joyceracing99 Same here! I am looking forward to giving this my all and hope we can all have success!
I heard the academy is pretty rough and the pass rate wasn’t very high. We don’t want to be in that statistic.
I created a Discord Server for those who have gotten their offer letter. Feel free to join and add others you know of. discord.gg/4FmtjU
@@joyceracing99 I just got a TOL a few days ago as well. If you guys aren't already on Point 65 (pointsixtyfive.com), you should sign up and find the forum for our hiring bid.
How to apply for the FAA academy?
Don't!
@@davesmith3561 why
Bids
Military
USAJOBS.org they normally have a bid once a year
What is the name of that place and what is the name of that college
its not a college its a training academy in Tulsa
Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Karthika Sravani it’s recommend that you go to a 2 year college and major in aviation science prior to applying to the faa academy. People that are taken off the street have a very high dropout rate
@@d.n.3652 Totally false, from everything I've read people say the opposite. Don't go to college for this, basics and the academy teach you everything you need to know.
@@chrispaulbd people off the streets have a 90% drop out rate. I’ve been in aviation for a while now and I can tell you that there is a lot of information to learn. I’m not saying my way is the one correct way, but schooling definitely does help.
What is the age requirement to get accepted?
FAA website says “Be age 30 or under (on the closing date of the application period)” www.faa.gov/jobs/career_fields/aviation_careers/
@@brrc8 I remember that from years ago when I was looking into it I was wondering if that was still the case. I saw a couple people of the video that looked like they were well over 31.
@@cdubois13 those were instructors, everyone else was under 31
... you have to complete their test with a passing grade before your 30th birthday ...
@@willgaukler8979 No, you have to be under 31 when the initial application period ends.
how much does it cost..can you provide the link direct to your website please?
shaah abdallah If you get accepted they will pay you. You would be an employee of the Federal Aviation Administration.
@@tomdavison9107 Will it be alright for a person with no experience to be on this job (I mean you will get train though, but have no experience before getting trained)? I also heard this job is stressful at most times is it true
Xu Shu First you have to get accepted at the school and go through the training. You will receive addition training when you get to the job. You can get into the school with no prior experience, but there are people who go to college ATC programs as well as controllers from the military who apply.The best way to find all the info you need is to look on the FAA website or the website for the school in Oklahoma. Good luck.
Hi how can i study please answer
It will only cost you your dignity...nothing else
1:08 this first part resembles the Battle of Britian in 1940
Why cant AI do that job? A cluster of computers can track and send multiple instructions to multiple planes vs humans who can only speak to one plane at a time.
Some onboard systems like TCAS, TACAN, and ILS all help to avoid collision and land safely along with ATC's
still need to hire programmers to monitor the AI
We don’t even have full automation together in cars. You think “AI” at this point can control air traffic.
I don’t know if understand the pure scale and cost at implementing a fully automated unmanned airport.
@@RichKilla86ers yea, system would be not replace controllers, but turn controllers into monitors.
Personally, I don't even predict we would need less. However, we would need what we have now, which already is a shortage. 2 ways to fix shortage problem: hire more or automations and use what we have.
I think it's possible to take repetitive, low risk tasks off ATCs to do manually, so they can oversee the system to ensure it's operating properly and they still get final say. This helps so they can focus on high priority clustered areas, or operations during bad weather, or high priority alerts.
Or in general leverage new tech ML and AI to help with situational awareness. From a tower, you can see planes, but you have no idea the seperation between them (hence wings clip like they did in Boston few weeks ago) or runway incursion where a aircraft accidently comes onto the wrong runway (happens often oddly).
I think it's possible, tbh. I am exploring right now how feasible it is and what micro problems to start off with.
@@myebbad I think you have a point and I agree: impossible to go from 0 t 100 for AUAs. (industry likes acronyms lol). However, lets go from 0 o 10? Just like anything historically has ever done to make progress, even in this industry does with implementation of TCAS, ADSB, Datalink, etc etc.
To your point comparing cars - aircrafts in sky are much easier to manager than cars on road. Reasons:
(1) only focusing on aircraft to aircraft distances. No pedestrians to mess things up, which is often common reasons for accidents
(2) skys to have highways (vectors) that aircrafts go on, so it's not free for all. Just like cars essentially
(3) seperating is much bigger than cars and you'd have time to trigger a pilot to make changes to altitude, speed, and direction. Faster than you do with cars on roads
(4) if you need to install a system to help make this happen on aircrafts, there is only primary 2 you have to work with (Airbus and Boeing) vs 10s of models of cars you'd have to all get on the same system, which is likely impossible.
(5) ATCs are a very high salary individuals, so we can't just expect with rise in aviation, the solution is to always keep hiring more ATCs. Gotta work with less eventually. Not scalable model IMO.
I know I am only pointing out pros, but there are likely equally amount of cons.
I just mean to say, yes it's feasible to have full automation in aircrafts. Heck with autopilot pilots already are monitoring vs controlling the plane between depart and arrivals. Why not offer similar systems to ATCs?