excellent. I have been interested in Bion's work for decades as a "cult information specialist". I always pronounced his name "Bee-on", so will look into it again.
Dr Hugh Crichton-Miller founded the first Tavistock Clinic in 1920, applying what he had learned treating shell shock victims during the Great War to provide treatment to civilians with nervous disorders. Though influenced by Freud and Jung, he also used his own medical experience and his faith to guide his approach. In 1932 Bion joined the Tavistock Clinic and was initially employed as an assistant doctor without pay. He began training in psychoanalytic psychotherapy under JA Hadfield. Bion founded the OTHER clinic for Human Relations after the end of the second world war. When he left the army he returned to the Tavi. Here he took control of the Professional Committee and instituted radical policies of democracy where all senior staff had to be elected to post, founded the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, began further experiments with groups, started another training analysis but this time under Melanie Klein, relocated the Tavi from its temporary war-time location to a new premises at 2 Beaumont Street and re-organised the Tavi to get it ready for joining the NHS, not least by recruiting former military colleagues Jock Sutherland and John Bowlby.
True. Nor did I say he founded the Tavistock Clinic, but rather the Tavistock Insitute for Human Relations--they are connected, but not the same insitution. See: 100years.tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/key-figures/?v=79cba1185463
Thanks. His surname is commonly pronounced as "BE-on" (not BI-on as in bionic). Also, you may want to include some of Bion's works in your references- secondary sources are never great. Appreciate your work.
Such an interesting concept. Only wish the narrator spoke a bit slower, I find it so hard to follow, had to stop the video and put it back several times.
You might wish to take a look at this reference: 100years.tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/key-figures/?v=79cba1185463. I did not go into all the details of Bion's life--he served in both WW1 and WW2. I focused on his work at the Tavistock clinic for the purposes of this video.
@@grouprelationstheoryandpra2395 I mean it's semantics, but he served in a fighting position in WW1 while he focused on therapy in WW2. It's like saying "I served in Afghan, I made aircraft parts in Ohio."
@@grouprelationstheoryandpra2395 I know, I do apologise. I remember vaguely studying Bion in college and we are having a tough time at work within the group dynamics (I wrote that first comment from work, maybe I let all the negativity get to me? 🤣) and wanted a little refresher to see if I could implement some changes within the group structure. Very informative. 👍
Was he object relations like guntrip? More melanie klien please. Sounds like scapgoating as the group may pick the " othered person". Sounds like family therapy the" identified patient" ; not reality based but putting the problem on others. The f60.81 narcissist avoids their dependency by the use of entitlement. They are extremely dependent on others for validation , admiration or magical thinking (God like figure).
Hi Ed: Thanks for your interest. Bion was actually in training analysis with Melanie Klein and worked closely with her. And yes, I think the idea of the "identified patient" in family therapy is very similar to how we talk about people being used in groups to fulfill the group's purpose. They are both systems theories in the end...
Presenting "suggested Basic Assumptions" are not legitimate. Taking such licence to iterate Bion's work is inappropriate and unethical. Adding to Bion's work should be peer reviewed. Krista Moran Member A.K. Rice
I beg to differ. I don't believe the theory (or any theory, for that matter) was ever intended to be static and unchanging (an "originalist" interpretation), but rather to respond to realities in the world. Proposing new basic assumptions, as the authors I referred to did, in no way appropriates or diminishes Bion's work, but is rather intended to expand upon and apply Bion's work in new ways, to deal with new social realities. You are, of course, free to disagree.
@@grouprelationstheoryandpra2395 Peer review WAS the standard when adding to original work. This is especially important when links are placed on an organization's website dedicated to Bion's work. We shall see.
@@kristamoran4181 Please look at the citations in the video and the list of references. All of these "additions" to the theory, do indeed come from peer reviewed journals in the field of group relations.
excellent. I have been interested in Bion's work for decades as a "cult information specialist". I always pronounced his name "Bee-on", so will look into it again.
true, I mispronounced his name. Glad you found the video useful.
You are pronouncing it correctly.
That was just amazing. What artwork!! 👏🏽
thank you! I had the help of a very talented illustrator, and a very talented video editor!
Dr Hugh Crichton-Miller founded the first Tavistock Clinic in 1920, applying what he had learned treating shell shock victims during the Great War to provide treatment to civilians with nervous disorders. Though influenced by Freud and Jung, he also used his own medical experience and his faith to guide his approach. In 1932 Bion joined the Tavistock Clinic and was initially employed as an assistant doctor without pay. He began training in psychoanalytic psychotherapy under JA Hadfield.
Bion founded the OTHER clinic for Human Relations after the end of the second world war. When he left the army he returned to the Tavi. Here he took control of the Professional Committee and instituted radical policies of democracy where all senior staff had to be elected to post, founded the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, began further experiments with groups, started another training analysis but this time under Melanie Klein, relocated the Tavi from its temporary war-time location to a new premises at 2 Beaumont Street and re-organised the Tavi to get it ready for joining the NHS, not least by recruiting former military colleagues Jock Sutherland and John Bowlby.
True. Nor did I say he founded the Tavistock Clinic, but rather the Tavistock Insitute for Human Relations--they are connected, but not the same insitution. See: 100years.tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/key-figures/?v=79cba1185463
Congratulations from Brazil ... More of Bion's work, please
Eu amo o Brasil
This was incredibly useful - thank you
I'm glad you found it useful! thanks for your comment.
Thanks. His surname is commonly pronounced as "BE-on" (not BI-on as in bionic). Also, you may want to include some of Bion's works in your references- secondary sources are never great. Appreciate your work.
Yes, I am aware. Unfortunately I couldn't make the edits without losing credit for the views, so I'll have to live with the mistake.
Got into Bion's work when thinking about the game Crusader Kings III.
I don't know the game, but glad it brought you here!
SUPERB LECTURE,THANKYOU
you're welcome! Glad you found it useful.
Such an interesting concept. Only wish the narrator spoke a bit slower, I find it so hard to follow, had to stop the video and put it back several times.
thanks for your feedback Antonia. The concepts are actually quite complex, so not such a bad idea to review it a few times!
it is possible to slow down the speed of the video, under settings-> playback speed
It’s Bion. Like Bee-on not By-on
Ha - my first thought too.
Bion was drafted in WW1, not WW2. Which now makes me doubt all the information in this video....
You might wish to take a look at this reference: 100years.tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/key-figures/?v=79cba1185463. I did not go into all the details of Bion's life--he served in both WW1 and WW2. I focused on his work at the Tavistock clinic for the purposes of this video.
@@grouprelationstheoryandpra2395 I mean it's semantics, but he served in a fighting position in WW1 while he focused on therapy in WW2.
It's like saying "I served in Afghan, I made aircraft parts in Ohio."
@@grouprelationstheoryandpra2395 Although I was being facetious, I did find the video excellent.
@@andycopland3179 glad you enjoyed it in the end. Facetiousness doesn't always translate in the written word...
@@grouprelationstheoryandpra2395 I know, I do apologise. I remember vaguely studying Bion in college and we are having a tough time at work within the group dynamics (I wrote that first comment from work, maybe I let all the negativity get to me? 🤣) and wanted a little refresher to see if I could implement some changes within the group structure. Very informative. 👍
Was he object relations like guntrip? More melanie klien please. Sounds like scapgoating as the group may pick the " othered person". Sounds like family therapy the" identified patient" ; not reality based but putting the problem on others. The f60.81 narcissist avoids their dependency by the use of entitlement. They are extremely dependent on others for validation , admiration or magical thinking (God like figure).
Hi Ed: Thanks for your interest. Bion was actually in training analysis with Melanie Klein and worked closely with her. And yes, I think the idea of the "identified patient" in family therapy is very similar to how we talk about people being used in groups to fulfill the group's purpose. They are both systems theories in the end...
Presenting "suggested Basic Assumptions" are not legitimate. Taking such licence to iterate Bion's work is inappropriate and unethical. Adding to Bion's work should be peer reviewed.
Krista Moran
Member A.K. Rice
I beg to differ. I don't believe the theory (or any theory, for that matter) was ever intended to be static and unchanging (an "originalist" interpretation), but rather to respond to realities in the world. Proposing new basic assumptions, as the authors I referred to did, in no way appropriates or diminishes Bion's work, but is rather intended to expand upon and apply Bion's work in new ways, to deal with new social realities. You are, of course, free to disagree.
@@grouprelationstheoryandpra2395 Peer review WAS the standard when adding to original work. This is especially important when links are placed on an organization's website dedicated to Bion's work. We shall see.
@@kristamoran4181 Please look at the citations in the video and the list of references. All of these "additions" to the theory, do indeed come from peer reviewed journals in the field of group relations.