Gotta love how Trinitarians call Jesus the second person within the Godhead, which completely ignores Colossians 2:9's statement that it was the complete other way around - the Godhead in it's entirety was in Jesus!
If you look in the original language that colossians was written in the word used for godhead literally means divine nature. So when it says that all the fullness of the godhead was in Christ all it means is that he is fully God. It doesn't negate the doctrine of the trinity.
Thank you Bishop Bernard, Here’s a fact folks, Baptism didn’t begin with John the Baptist. It was the Mikveh of the Priests. Jesus being the High Priest. Hebrews 2:17, 3:1, 4:14, 5:10, 6:20 Here’s a little more info. Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Jesus told John the Baptist in Matthew 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. Jesus as the High Priest Needed to go through the Mikveh to be cleansed. He is GOD manifest in the flesh. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 GOD, 3 manifestations, not 3 persons. There is the Humanity Of Jesus and the Deity Jesus. Fully GOD, fully man. Match up Isaiah 9:6 and Matthew 28:19….. Then look at Acts 2:38.
This scripture speaks of The Son because He was preached among the Gentiles. Yeshua Jesus was fully Man and fully GOD(Divine) when walking on this Earth...Yet I’ve heard it preached Jesus’s Ministry was Of Man anointed by the Holy Spirit...Greater works will you do because I go to my Father❤
Man this argument is something... How is it easier to believe that God decided to show himself in three modes here (at the same time) rather than to believe in a perfect example of the Triune God here... To say that the Old Testament prophets didn't understand the difference between God and God's spirit ascending on the prophets is something that's for sure....
Praise the Lord God Almighty our Saviour Jesus Christ brethren brother David Bernard has a lot of wisdom and knowledge and revelation of God keep on with the truth of one God Christ God bless you and family Amen Hallelujah Glory be to God our Saviour Jesus Christ Amen, amen
Comments are time-irrelevant three years after the talk, but I am a Trinitarian and will not remain silent. After the covenant with Noah about never again destroying the earth by water, each and every covenant since has been with Abraham and his descendants. That includes the New Covenant in the blood of Messiah, the fulfillment of Jeremiah 31:31-34. Jesus Himself said He came ONLY to the house of Israel. As His last act before His ascension He commissioned the disciples to go into all nations, making disciples of the nations. If one accepts your Oneness opinion, then all Jews are saved because they are the people of “the covenant,” but all gentiles who are saved are only saved by believing in the “only Name by which they can be saved, Yeshua HaMaschiah. That gives TWO ways of salvation, one for Jews and one for everyone else, which clearly contradicts scripture. That’s only one example. I have read the entire Bible many times and find many contradictions to Oneness, Unitarianism, Jehovah’s Witness and other belief systems that deny the Trinity. Oneness theology makes scripture like Isaiah 48:16 read somewhat like the Three Faces of Eve movie. The Trinity makes it read logically.
Great explanation. It would seem that any doctrine of the nature of God would have to be built around the primary scripture about God's nature-- Deuteronomy 6:4.
God is The Omnipresent Holy Spirit, but he became man in and as the Lord Jesus Christ, as the Son of God who had a beginning and origin as a human being with a human psyche by being conceived as a man in human reality, under the limits and barriers of his human body 33 years before that event in the womb of Mary his mother. The difference from us is that this man was God experiencing the reality of human existence, being God made man in his spirit, deity and humanity were inextricably linked, these two dimensions were in his being. He gave his voice in his glory to those present, testifying in a supernatural and direct way that this man Jesus whom they had before their eyes was the promised messiah, he also gave a special sign for John, a symbolic vision of his Spirit in the form of a dove fulfilling the word that I had given him before. God can speak and show himself at the same time, while also being manifested and embodied as a man in the waters of the Jordan in this true human embodiment, whom Jesus said: "The Father who dwells in me, I am in The Father and The Father in me, I and the Father are One" "He who sees me, sees the Father", this could not be dissolved and disappear. But the deity is one and the same, it does not change, there are no divine and distinct persons and this does not affect the illimitability and Omnipresence of the Almighty God who is everywhere and operates in different ways at the same time.
I always thought it interesting that at the baptism, the Spirit rested on Jesus the man. In my interactions with the Zech. 12:10 controversy, it is evident to me that God had to withdraw from the Lord Jesus just before his death. Yhe body of preparation would die, and so the Spirit merely rested on Jesus but have to come apart from the dying Jesus for a moment because Jesus was laden with the sins of the world. But right up till the end after both the Father and the son were pierced, the Father and the Spirit suffered in the man.
The baptism of Jesus in the Jordan River, also, gives us the example to the way of salvation. Jesus needed not to repent, He had no sin, but as our Elder Brother, He gives us the example. How? To fulfill all righteousness. As in the story, Jesus is baptized, and a voice from heaven speaks, "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased." Then a manifestation of the Spirit alighting on Jesus. When we repent, we are to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. At this point God will say, "This is now my beloved son/daughter in whom I am well pleased." Is what I just said in scripture? No, but If God was well pleased that Jesus was baptized as our example to follow, then God, also would be well pleased when we also are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. At which time we will also receive the Holy Spirit of promise with manifestation.
I see that the Apostles did get the true revelation of who God is..just look at the beginning of almost every epistles thats written in the new testament..the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is always mentioned..why are they constantly mentioned through out the revelation of the New testament, if God was only one person in Jesus? And yes I am a Trinity believer..
The Father and The Spirit was always mentioned in the Old Testament, but this didn't necessitate a duality of persons. It was one God acting upon the souls of mankind. The Son, was God manifested in flesh, the Messiah, for the purpose of salvation. Immanuel "God with us"... Isa. 7:14 Isa. 9:6 1Cor. 8:6
He prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane in a representation that He was a man (or He was in the flesh). Meaning, He ought to pray also what humans do. He must likewise submit Himself in the Father, but still He's the Father.
The simplest explanation is there is Spirit and there is flesh. That's two not three. The Holy Ghost isn't an Angel, so he is God and Jesus, one and the same. Jesus said the Father would send a comforter to you, and then said I will not leave you comforterless, proving again by his own words he is the Father in the flesh. Jesus said that God is a Spirit that no man has ever seen, but also said whoever has looked upon me has seen the Father. These verses alone prove the Trinity doctrine to be false.
If Jesus or the apostles taught the trinity it would have incited a protest from the Jews beyond any other teaching. But there is not a single verse in the Bible that so much as suggests this -- and nothing in early history that reveals that either.
What i notice is yes Gods Spirit appeared as a Dove as we heard His Voice. But in the OT we also see the Angel of YHWH appear as a fire. A cloud. A Man. Like bro. God manifests in many ways.
Is it okay to be rebaptize? I was baptized back then when I was young, maybe 15 years old but as I grew up I am not that serious in our ministry, I sinned a lot and I don't really care about my faith. I hope somebody will answer me. Thank you and God bless.
Yes. Acts 19:1-6. It is vital to salvation to be baptised correctly as the Apostles performed it, full immersion invoking the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for remission of sins. Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, 22:16. Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other : for these is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.
Like or as are similies. Run like the wind. Hot as a desert. So the Spirit descending like a dove, is not the same as the form of a dove. I think that is a bit unbiblical. However I must say, Trinitarians definitely philosophize the word of God.
(Matt. 3:13-17) The Holy Spirit DID NOT come in the "form" of a dove; rather, "...descending LIKE a dove...". __ It wasn't like a flash of lightening, or as a meteorite falling from the heavens: it was gentle...almost like a feather. ____ Brother Villa.
In 1 John 5:7, it says these 3 are one. If it meant to say these 3 are one in unity, it would have followed the pattern of the next verse which says these three agree as one. Another thing to add is that if you're reading this from the KJV or NKJV, it is almost unanimously accepted by scholars that this version of the verse is not found in the original Bible at all. It was written like this because Erasmus' 1522 Greek Text included it. Erasmus was not going to write it like this because he could not find it in any of the 5000 greek manuscripts he had but was pressured by the Catholic Church to include it as it was written in the Latin Vulgate. The Catholic Church provided Erasmus with only one copy of the Greek written like this so he included it which is why it's in the KJV. Even though this particular translation of the verse is likely not in the original text, it still shows the Oneness of God and not one in unity.
Although this verse of Scripture is often used by those who believe in three persons of God, it actually refutes this view, for it says that “these three are one.” Some interpret this phrase to mean one in unity as husband and wife are one. But it should be pointed out that this view is essentially polytheistic. If the word one referred to unity instead of a numerical designation, then the Godhead could be viewed as many gods in a united council or government. If unity were meant, the verse should have read, “These three agree as one.” It is also interesting to note that this verse does not use the word Son, but Word. If Son were the special name of a distinct person in the Godhead, and if this verse were trying to teach distinct persons, why did it use Word instead of Son? Son does not refer primarily to deity, but Word does. The Word is not a distinct person from the Father any more than a man and his word are distinct persons. Rather, the Word is the thought, plan, or mind of God and also the expression of God. In a similar way, the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is not a distinct person from the Father any more than a man and his spirit are distinct persons. “Holy Spirit” just describes what God is. I John 5:7 says that three bear record in heaven; that is, God has recorded Himself in three modes of activity or has revealed Himself in three ways. He has at least three heavenly roles: Father, Word (not Son), and Holy Ghost. Furthermore, these three roles describe one God: “these three are one.”
However, there is practically unanimous agreement among Bible scholars that this verse is really not part of the Bible at all! All major translations since the King James Version have omitted it, including the Revised Standard Version, The Amplified Bible, and the New International Version. So does the generally accepted Greek text (Nestle’s text). The NIV renders I John 5:7-8 as, “For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and these three are in agreement.” The KJV included verse 7 only because the 1522 edition of the Greek text compiled by Erasmus included it. Originally Erasmus had excluded this passage from his editions of 1516 and 1519 because it was not in any of 5,000 Greek manuscripts but only in late manuscripts of the Vulgate-the Latin version then used by the Roman Catholic Church. When the Catholic church put pressure on Erasmus to include this verse, he promised to do so if they could find even one Greek manuscript that had it. They finally produced one, so Erasmus reluctantly added the verse in, even though the manuscript so produced dated from 1520. (See Norman Geisler and William Nix, A General Introduction to the Bible, Chicago: Moody Press, 1968, 370.) From this evidence, it seems plausible that some overzealous copyist saw “there are three that testify” and decided to insert a little teaching of his own. Certainly, the passage in question is completely unrelated to the rest of John’s discussion here and interrupts the flow of his logical argument. Although all the evidence indicates this passage was not originally a part of I John, God had His hand of protection and preservation on His Word. Despite the efforts of humans, God did not.
“He can speak from heaven, He can be incarnate in flesh as the Son of God, and He can send His Spirit as shown in bodily form of a dove, and one God can do all that”… this is literally what Trinitarians believe… there is ONE GOD who eternally exists in 3 persons. As human beings with a finite mind who do not exist as God and cannot begin to comprehend an infinite being, 3 persons seems like the most sensible explanation. No one fully understands the nature of God and it’s extremely arrogant to believe so. Let’s not be puffed up in knowledge, but instead preach the gospel with love. Let’s commune with God to know Him
Dr. Brown would refute that this passage is the first "hint" of there being more than one LORD or Yahweh. This is just straight heresy. God is ONE BEING in three persons. The messiah is God. Your answer is insufficient. It says the spirit "Like a dove". That's three people.
Oneness believe Jesus is The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit (Jesus only movement) and Trinitarians believe The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are 3 distinct persons in the God head but are still One
So a Christian must be baptised believing in God the Father, they must also accept and have faith in the shed blood of Christ for forgiveness of sins. And they need to recognise that they can receive God's Holy Spirit through Christ. All this I believe! But did Jesus say "In the name of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit" NO! This is a twisting or a 'perversing' of Jesus words see Greek 'diastrepho' ( Acts 20:30 W.E.Vine's greek dictionary of NT words page 180). This formula was introduced many years AFTER Jesus time! There is NOT ONE bible text that states the trinity formula! But it says 30 times GOD THE FATHER
How should we define the Trinity in the place? What is Trinity? How should you apply the principles of trinity anyway? Putting Heavenly Authorities in a certain arrangement of rankings or matrices? Who do you think has the authority and more knowledgeable how should the Heavenly Authority be arranged in a certain manner. Did God give this knowledge to any human being? I think, this is only a perception of one's idea coming from human wisdom, and surely not from God! Why should I be bothered about this anyway? What will I gain if I believed? And what will I lose if I don't?
What IS a ‘SON’? ? WHY would God use the analogy of a ‘father’ and ‘son’ knowing exactly how ALL humans understand this if He meant something completely different, ie Is a son ever as old as his father? Is a son ever equal in authority to his father? No never. Also as literally every created thing has a name what is the name of the Holy Spirit?? Strange how one part of God has no name when the other 2 parts do!
God the Father is one, Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God is another. Matt. 3: 17 "And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” God the Father made mention of His son Jesus Christ, not of Himself. John 17:3 "Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent". Jesus, the son of God knew who the one true God is. Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last. If Jesus was God, that Spirit that he committed to God the Father would've been God and there would be no more Jesus because if God would've just taken a body, He would've just put it away, and Jesus would've never risen form the dead. Joel 2:28 "“And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions. The Holy Spirit is God Himself. There is no third "person" i God. Rev. 5:13 "And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: “blessing and honor and glory and power be to Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever!” He who sits on the throne is God the Father, who is one. Jesus the Christ who is the Lamb of God is another.
@@jakpodcast Hebrews 1:8 cites Psalm 45 where you can clearly read that the narrator is not God. Jesus said God is one, Jesus was Son of God, and he said that his Father is the only true God, his God and our God.
Godhead vs. Trinity 3 Someone asked me about the baptism of the LORD'S Christ (the Son). Claiming that this moment proves there's a Trinity. Let's examine the scriptures not my opinions. Matthew 3:15-17 KJV - And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Here is another common attack Trinitarian preachers use to mock the Biblical Godhead; some of which just don't understand the Godhead or are raised up in the Roman Bapholic (Catholic + Baptist) Churches. Many of those non-denominational denominations fall under this category. They will refer to the baptism of Jesus, when God the Father speaks from Heaven. Here they will say, "if Jesus is the same Being as God the Father, was He speaking like a Ventriloquist?" Again, this is just another absurd attack on the Lord from Trinitarians, which shows their complete ignorance of scripture. The answer to their attack is, of course, very simple: Can a soul speak, when it is apart from its body? Read Revelation 6:9-11, and you will see the answer is a definite YES. Revelation 6:9-11 KJV - And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. The voice from Heaven is clearly the Soul of the Godhead, speaking about the event which is taking place on the Earth. Much the same way as the souls of the martyrs are speaking in Revelation Chapter 6:9-11, and asking God to avenge their PHYSICAL blood which was shed on the Earth. SOULS DO NOT BLEED. Your flesh bleeds your souls blood. The Fathers flesh (the Son), bled His blood (Acts 20:28). Same Being. Leviticus 17:11 KJV - For the life of the flesh is in the blood... "For the life of the flesh is in the blood", and the life our souls are in His Holy Spirit. Gods Soul (the Father) and Spirit (the Holy Ghost) are both eternal and everlasting! If you want further proof of this, then consider what Ephesians Chapter 2 teaches: Ephesians 2:6 KJV - And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: Also examine the following scriptures! Colossians 2:11-12 KJV - In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. Now, here is a truly amazing fact: When God saves you, He performs an operation inside your body. He "circumcises" your sinful flesh, and cuts it free from your eternal soul. So, what you do in your sinful flesh will not affect your soul. Our flesh was tied to our soul and therefore we were under the law. The "grace" is the LORD circumcising our soul from our flesh to live freely in His Spirit, where there's liberty (2 Corinthians 3:17). Romans 7:5 KJV - For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. This, of course, does not give you freedom to sin, because we know that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:15-23). The Bible also says: "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." (Romans 8:13). Living after the flesh also includes the spirit of Phariseeism. That is, the mindset of "law keeping 'alone' is what saves me from hell", when scriptures are clear that the LORD is our salvation. Or even believing in the Soul (the Father) of the LORD, but not the flesh (Son) that He revealed Himself in. So, then the question must be asked: If our soul is not connected to our sinful body of flesh, then where is the soul? This is what Ephesians 2:6 is describing, How could Jesus be walking around physically on the earth, and yet His Soul is connected to eternity? The same way that we do today, if you are truly saved. The difference is His Soul is Eternity! The Father! The Bible teaches that we are members of Christ's body (Ephesians 5:30). How does this work, when we are clearly not connected to anything in a physical sense? Simple. It is our soul which was circumcised from our corruptible flesh, that now sits in heaven in perfect union with the Lord. Our soul is the spiritual connection, and the Spirit is the power which guides us into all truth. One last thing before you get to upset. Matthew 27:51 KJV - And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; Hebrews 10:20 KJV - By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; The "veil" is the Son, "that is to say, his flesh"! The "his", being the Fathers flesh. The Son veiled the Fathers Glory. He was literally (from wounds) and spiritually torn from twain to twain. Let me explain the significance of this moment. The LORD broke bread and had spiritual communion with us, through His flesh (Son). 1 Corinthians 10:16 KJV - The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? We are able spiritually partake in communion with the LORD, and THROGUH this fellowship and communion with the LORD we no longer have need of vein partitions and traditions. We now have direct fellowship with the LORD Jesus. Ephesians 2:13-16 KJV - But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: So no. There is not a "Trinity". There is however the Godhead. One LORD. One God. Jesus alone is Yehovah God Almighty. Body (Son), Soul, (Father), Spirit (Holy Ghost). Hallelujah! Summary: The Father spoke, His Spirit descended "LIKE A DOVE", not "AS A DOVE" (Deuteronomy 4:17) unto His veil, "that is to say, his flesh;" (Hebrews 10:20). Body, Soul, and Spirit. Distinction? Yes. 3? Yes. 3 persons? No. 1 Person, 1 Being. The LORD Jesus Christ.
My friend i think thats not the question. The key here is, if you believe that there's only one God then you are Oneness believer. The bible tells us clearly in some verses that there's only one God. I think if the trinitarian believe that there's only one God then they are Oneness believer should be. 😑
according to the bible it is the disciples that doing the baptism, even if Jesus is still with them.. it is very unlikely that the apostle would change the baptism from trinity to Jesus name...that absolute contradiction to the commandments of Jesus... THEREFORE..IT IS JESUS HIMSELF instructed to baptism in HIS NAME.. not.trinity
John 5 :39 Just tell me where do the scriptures testify about jesus not the prophecies about him , where is the testify the old testment only testify for Yahweh so Jesus here is claiming to he himself the only God yahweh Jeremiah 17:10 says I am Yahwe Revelation 2:23 jesus claiming to be the same God who spoke in jeremiah 17:10 Isiah 44:24 Yahweh saying he created all things alone no one was with him Acts 14:15 the apostles were preaching people to repent to the only God who created earth and heaven and they were only preaching the name of Jesus so Jesus is that God Deuteronomy 32:39 There is no other god with me Revelation 1 :8 (which is) is Yahweh but the (which to come) is Jesus so he Is the only God
Look like this Oneness is stopping us to believe in the Father and the Holy Spirit!!! Look like there is no trinity in Jesus's name. God the Father wasn't acknowledged in such baptism!!😂. When John baptized Jesus, the three persons in Trinity were present to witness. Whdn Jesus czme out of the water, the peoole could hear the voice of God the Father shouting from thd sky proclaiming Jesus is His son. Then, the Holy Spirit came down from above as a dove and perched on the Son.
Trinitarians are the modalists they project onto one God believers. The 1st person is in the mode of the Father. The 2d person is in the mode of the Son. The 3rd person is in the mode of the Spirit. That's actual modalism
As a trinitarian I find that this is a decent argument. But clearly the passage reveals the Father as distinct from the Son and the Holy Spirit as distinct from the Father, etc.
Definitely this is the best explanation of the God head.. i believe that there is one God and his name is Jesus 🙌
Gotta love how Trinitarians call Jesus the second person within the Godhead, which completely ignores Colossians 2:9's statement that it was the complete other way around - the Godhead in it's entirety was in Jesus!
If that was true Jesus should 3rd because mary was conceived by the Holy Ghost, trinity is a lie from catholic pop
And yet called out to his Father - was he a lunatic?
If you look in the original language that colossians was written in the word used for godhead literally means divine nature. So when it says that all the fullness of the godhead was in Christ all it means is that he is fully God. It doesn't negate the doctrine of the trinity.
Prooves the Omnipresence of The"" SHEMA GOD""❤❤❤❤❤❤
This is the true doctrine of JESUS CHRIST. Amen.
HEAR o Israel the LORD our GOD is O N E LORD! Hallelujah for the UPCI the church of the LIVING GOD! Praise His Holy Anointed Name!
Do you know the Hebrew Word for “ONE”? Even Jews and the writers knew God was Plural.
Read 1cor.8:5,6
Thank you Bishop Bernard,
Here’s a fact folks,
Baptism didn’t begin with John the Baptist. It was the Mikveh of the Priests. Jesus being the High Priest. Hebrews 2:17, 3:1, 4:14, 5:10, 6:20
Here’s a little more info.
Jesus said in
Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Jesus told John the Baptist in
Matthew 3:15
And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
Jesus as the High Priest Needed to go through the Mikveh to be cleansed.
He is GOD manifest in the flesh.
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 GOD, 3 manifestations, not 3 persons.
There is the Humanity Of Jesus and the Deity Jesus. Fully GOD, fully man.
Match up Isaiah 9:6 and Matthew 28:19….. Then look at Acts 2:38.
Very good explanation !
This scripture speaks of The Son because He was preached among the Gentiles. Yeshua Jesus was fully Man and fully GOD(Divine) when walking on this Earth...Yet I’ve heard it preached Jesus’s Ministry was Of Man anointed by the Holy Spirit...Greater works will you do because I go to my Father❤
Man this argument is something... How is it easier to believe that God decided to show himself in three modes here (at the same time) rather than to believe in a perfect example of the Triune God here... To say that the Old Testament prophets didn't understand the difference between God and God's spirit ascending on the prophets is something that's for sure....
Praise the Lord God Almighty our Saviour Jesus Christ brethren brother David Bernard has a lot of wisdom and knowledge and revelation of God keep on with the truth of one God Christ God bless you and family Amen Hallelujah Glory be to God our Saviour Jesus Christ Amen, amen
Comments are time-irrelevant three years after the talk, but I am a Trinitarian and will not remain silent. After the covenant with Noah about never again destroying the earth by water, each and every covenant since has been with Abraham and his descendants. That includes the New Covenant in the blood of Messiah, the fulfillment of Jeremiah 31:31-34. Jesus Himself said He came ONLY to the house of Israel. As His last act before His ascension He commissioned the disciples to go into all nations, making disciples of the nations. If one accepts your Oneness opinion, then all Jews are saved because they are the people of “the covenant,” but all gentiles who are saved are only saved by believing in the “only Name by which they can be saved, Yeshua HaMaschiah. That gives TWO ways of salvation, one for Jews and one for everyone else, which clearly contradicts scripture. That’s only one example. I have read the entire Bible many times and find many contradictions to Oneness, Unitarianism, Jehovah’s Witness and other belief systems that deny the Trinity. Oneness theology makes scripture like Isaiah 48:16 read somewhat like the Three Faces of Eve movie. The Trinity makes it read logically.
Ephesians 3 one lord. One faith. One baptism (spirit not water) ONE GOD and father of us all..
Jesus said I and My Father are One and never I am the Father and the Father Sends Me not the Father Sends the Father.
This is the Truth 100%
Amen!!! So thankful for the Word of God! Hearing truth just sounds so good! God Bless you all
Well done brother David❤️🙏
It was God bearing witness of His Son. The Anointed One. Christ Jesus.
Very clear praise God
This is very good. I believe it would be beneficial to have these available in other languages such as Spanish. 😊
So good! I love this new series, Bro. Bernard!
Bro Bernard is a wonderful gift to the Church ✔️✔️
SOUND DOCTRINE!!!!! JESUS IS GOD!!!! Love this!
So beautiful, expository and obvious
Thank you for these golden nuggets…!!!
Amen🙏🏽 Jesus is the only name, the only God, king of kings ❤️ God isn't two or three God is only one
This was a great explanation of the trinity. Gives me a better knowledge even tho Ive been in church for yrs....Thank you!!
I am blessed that we are able to receive this words, This are deep knowledge into truth. God bless you all and Greetings from Vanuatu in Jesus Name
Great explanation. It would seem that any doctrine of the nature of God would have to be built around the primary scripture about God's nature-- Deuteronomy 6:4.
God is The Omnipresent Holy Spirit, but he became man in and as the Lord Jesus Christ, as the Son of God who had a beginning and origin as a human being with a human psyche by being conceived as a man in human reality, under the limits and barriers of his human body 33 years before that event in the womb of Mary his mother.
The difference from us is that this man was God experiencing the reality of human existence, being God made man in his spirit, deity and humanity were inextricably linked, these two dimensions were in his being. He gave his voice in his glory to those present, testifying in a supernatural and direct way that this man Jesus whom they had before their eyes was the promised messiah, he also gave a special sign for John, a symbolic vision of his Spirit in the form of a dove fulfilling the word that I had given him before. God can speak and show himself at the same time, while also being manifested and embodied as a man in the waters of the Jordan in this true human embodiment, whom Jesus said: "The Father who dwells in me, I am in The Father and The Father in me, I and the Father are One" "He who sees me, sees the Father", this could not be dissolved and disappear. But the deity is one and the same, it does not change, there are no divine and distinct persons and this does not affect the illimitability and Omnipresence of the Almighty God who is everywhere and operates in different ways at the same time.
I always thought it interesting that at the baptism, the Spirit rested on Jesus the man. In my interactions with the Zech. 12:10 controversy, it is evident to me that God had to withdraw from the Lord Jesus just before his death. Yhe body of preparation would die, and so the Spirit merely rested on Jesus but have to come apart from the dying Jesus for a moment because Jesus was laden with the sins of the world. But right up till the end after both the Father and the son were pierced, the Father and the Spirit suffered in the man.
Alleluia! Amen.
Alleluia,praise the lord
One baptism, no in water but in spirit
Thank you brother bernard going to use this explanation in a sermon, will give you credit, all the glory goes to our Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Amen! To God be the glory! Thank you Bro.Bernard
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He should sit down with John MacArthur
Loving this series Bro Bernard!
Principle of 1st mention. It's a principle for a reason
John the baptist was the only person who both saw and heard anything.
The baptism of Jesus in the Jordan River, also, gives us the example to the way of salvation. Jesus needed not to repent, He had no sin, but as our Elder Brother, He gives us the example. How? To fulfill all righteousness. As in the story, Jesus is baptized, and a voice from heaven speaks, "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased." Then a manifestation of the Spirit alighting on Jesus. When we repent, we are to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. At this point God will say, "This is now my beloved son/daughter in whom I am well pleased." Is what I just said in scripture? No, but If God was well pleased that Jesus was baptized as our example to follow, then God, also would be well pleased when we also are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. At which time we will also receive the Holy Spirit of promise with manifestation.
Thank you dr Bernard, this was an awesome explanation!
Sir I need one help from you.Please may you kindly explain Psalms 110:1
The right hand means authority; power. Read Ps 110:1 through 7.
I see that the Apostles did get the true revelation of who God is..just look at the beginning of almost every epistles thats written in the new testament..the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is always mentioned..why are they constantly mentioned through out the revelation of the New testament, if God was only one person in Jesus? And yes I am a Trinity believer..
The Father and The Spirit was always mentioned in the Old Testament, but this didn't necessitate a duality of persons. It was one God acting upon the souls of mankind. The Son, was God manifested in flesh, the Messiah, for the purpose of salvation. Immanuel "God with us"...
Isa. 7:14
Isa. 9:6
1Cor. 8:6
Could you do a episode on speaking in tongues
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Amen.
Amen!
Well said "to inaugurate the ministry of Jesus" & "a visible anointing to do the work He was born to do"
Can we get a break down on 1 tim 2:11-15 and a John 5:7
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HalleluYaH 🎉 YES!! 1 ONLY
What about when Jesus prayed in the Garden /Father that they may be ONE as WE are ONE...One in unity/perhaps? Just dialoguing
Jesus prayed as a man, He did not pray as God which is Unscriptural,
He prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane in a representation that He was a man (or He was in the flesh). Meaning, He ought to pray also what humans do. He must likewise submit Himself in the Father, but still He's the Father.
The simplest explanation is there is Spirit and there is flesh. That's two not three. The Holy Ghost isn't an Angel, so he is God and Jesus, one and the same. Jesus said the Father would send a comforter to you, and then said I will not leave you comforterless, proving again by his own words he is the Father in the flesh. Jesus said that God is a Spirit that no man has ever seen, but also said whoever has looked upon me has seen the Father. These verses alone prove the Trinity doctrine to be false.
4:06 - a question: so is he saying Jesus became God at his baptism?
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If Jesus or the apostles taught the trinity it would have incited a protest from the Jews beyond any other teaching. But there is not a single verse in the Bible that so much as suggests this -- and nothing in early history that reveals that either.
Lol why do you think they killed Jesus?
What i notice is yes Gods Spirit appeared as a Dove as we heard His Voice. But in the OT we also see the Angel of YHWH appear as a fire. A cloud. A Man. Like bro. God manifests in many ways.
It’s God not Gods there is one alone Isaiah 44:6,8 Deut 6:4
Is it okay to be rebaptize? I was baptized back then when I was young, maybe 15 years old but as I grew up I am not that serious in our ministry, I sinned a lot and I don't really care about my faith. I hope somebody will answer me. Thank you and God bless.
Yes you can get re baptized. It is biblical to get baptized in Jesus Christ name. There were people in the bible who got baptized twice
Yes. Acts 19:1-6. It is vital to salvation to be baptised correctly as the Apostles performed it, full immersion invoking the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for remission of sins. Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, 22:16.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other : for these is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.
Like or as are similies. Run like the wind. Hot as a desert. So the Spirit descending like a dove, is not the same as the form of a dove. I think that is a bit unbiblical. However I must say, Trinitarians definitely philosophize the word of God.
(Matt. 3:13-17) The Holy Spirit DID NOT come in the "form" of a dove; rather, "...descending LIKE a dove...". __ It wasn't like a flash of lightening, or as
a meteorite falling from the heavens: it was gentle...almost like a feather. ____ Brother Villa.
I do believe in one GOD and that Jesus is the visible likeness of the invisible GOD. Would you please explain 1st John 5:7
In 1 John 5:7, it says these 3 are one. If it meant to say these 3 are one in unity, it would have followed the pattern of the next verse which says these three agree as one. Another thing to add is that if you're reading this from the KJV or NKJV, it is almost unanimously accepted by scholars that this version of the verse is not found in the original Bible at all. It was written like this because Erasmus' 1522 Greek Text included it. Erasmus was not going to write it like this because he could not find it in any of the 5000 greek manuscripts he had but was pressured by the Catholic Church to include it as it was written in the Latin Vulgate. The Catholic Church provided Erasmus with only one copy of the Greek written like this so he included it which is why it's in the KJV. Even though this particular translation of the verse is likely not in the original text, it still shows the Oneness of God and not one in unity.
Although this verse of Scripture is often used by those who believe in three persons of God, it actually refutes this view, for it says that “these three are one.” Some interpret this phrase to mean one in unity as husband and wife are one. But it should be pointed out that this view is essentially polytheistic. If the word one referred to unity instead of a numerical designation, then the Godhead could be viewed as many gods in a united council or government. If unity were meant, the verse should have read, “These three agree as one.” It is also interesting to note that this verse does not use the word Son, but Word. If Son were the special name of a distinct person in the Godhead, and if this verse were trying to teach distinct persons, why did it use Word instead of Son? Son does not refer primarily to deity, but Word does. The Word is not a distinct person from the Father any more than a man and his word are distinct persons. Rather, the Word is the thought, plan, or mind of God and also the expression of God. In a similar way, the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is not a distinct person from the Father any more than a man and his spirit are distinct persons. “Holy Spirit” just describes what God is. I John 5:7 says that three bear record in heaven; that is, God has recorded Himself in three modes of activity or has revealed Himself in three ways. He has at least three heavenly roles: Father, Word (not Son), and Holy Ghost. Furthermore, these three roles describe one God: “these three are one.”
However, there is practically unanimous agreement among Bible scholars that this verse is really not part of the Bible at all! All major translations since the King James Version have omitted it, including the Revised Standard Version, The Amplified Bible, and the New International Version. So does the generally accepted Greek text (Nestle’s text). The NIV renders I John 5:7-8 as, “For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and these three are in agreement.” The KJV included verse 7 only because the 1522 edition of the Greek text compiled by Erasmus included it. Originally Erasmus had excluded this passage from his editions of 1516 and 1519 because it was not in any of 5,000 Greek manuscripts but only in late manuscripts of the Vulgate-the Latin version then used by the Roman Catholic Church. When the Catholic church put pressure on Erasmus to include this verse, he promised to do so if they could find even one Greek manuscript that had it. They finally produced one, so Erasmus reluctantly added the verse in, even though the manuscript so produced dated from 1520. (See Norman Geisler and William Nix, A General Introduction to the Bible, Chicago: Moody Press, 1968, 370.) From this evidence, it seems plausible that some overzealous copyist saw “there are three that testify” and decided to insert a little teaching of his own. Certainly, the passage in question is completely unrelated to the rest of John’s discussion here and interrupts the flow of his logical argument. Although all the evidence indicates this passage was not originally a part of I John, God had His hand of protection and preservation on His Word. Despite the efforts of humans, God did not.
“He can speak from heaven, He can be incarnate in flesh as the Son of God, and He can send His Spirit as shown in bodily form of a dove, and one God can do all that”… this is literally what Trinitarians believe… there is ONE GOD who eternally exists in 3 persons. As human beings with a finite mind who do not exist as God and cannot begin to comprehend an infinite being, 3 persons seems like the most sensible explanation. No one fully understands the nature of God and it’s extremely arrogant to believe so. Let’s not be puffed up in knowledge, but instead preach the gospel with love. Let’s commune with God to know Him
Los trinitarios no creen eso, los trinitarios creen que son tres personas divinas distitnas (3 dioses) coeternos.
@@nelsonstiveens5140 No. three persons, one being. One God.
Dr. Brown would refute that this passage is the first "hint" of there being more than one LORD or Yahweh. This is just straight heresy. God is ONE BEING in three persons. The messiah is God. Your answer is insufficient. It says the spirit "Like a dove". That's three people.
What’s the different between oneness and trib
Oneness believe Jesus is The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit (Jesus only movement) and Trinitarians believe The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are 3 distinct persons in the God head but are still One
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So a Christian must be baptised believing in God the Father, they must also accept and have faith in the shed blood of Christ for forgiveness of sins. And they need to recognise that they can receive God's Holy Spirit through Christ. All this I believe! But did Jesus say "In the name of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit" NO! This is a twisting or a 'perversing' of Jesus words see Greek 'diastrepho' ( Acts 20:30 W.E.Vine's greek dictionary of NT words page 180). This formula was introduced many years AFTER Jesus time! There is NOT ONE bible text that states the trinity formula! But it says 30 times GOD THE FATHER
How should we define the Trinity in the place? What is Trinity? How should you apply the principles of trinity anyway? Putting Heavenly Authorities in a certain arrangement of rankings or matrices? Who do you think has the authority and more knowledgeable how should the Heavenly Authority be arranged in a certain manner. Did God give this knowledge to any human being? I think, this is only a perception of one's idea coming from human wisdom, and surely not from God! Why should I be bothered about this anyway? What will I gain if I believed? And what will I lose if I don't?
There is only ONE God Jesus Christ.
He is our Father in Heaven,
the human/flesh born Son and Savior and
his Holy Spirit is our Helper.
So in heaven he is alone?! Why does he keep saying 'my Father/my God' in Revelation?
What IS a ‘SON’? ? WHY would God use the analogy of a ‘father’ and ‘son’ knowing exactly how ALL humans understand this if He meant something completely different, ie Is a son ever as old as his father? Is a son ever equal in authority to his father? No never.
Also as literally every created thing has a name what is the name of the Holy Spirit?? Strange how one part of God has no name when the other 2 parts do!
God the Father is one, Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God is another.
Matt. 3: 17 "And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
God the Father made mention of His son Jesus Christ, not of Himself.
John 17:3 "Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent".
Jesus, the son of God knew who the one true God is.
Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last.
If Jesus was God, that Spirit that he committed to God the Father would've been God and there would be no more Jesus because if God would've just taken a body, He would've just put it away, and Jesus would've never risen form the dead.
Joel 2:28 "“And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions.
The Holy Spirit is God Himself. There is no third "person" i God.
Rev. 5:13 "And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: “blessing and honor and glory and power be to Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever!”
He who sits on the throne is God the Father, who is one. Jesus the Christ who is the Lamb of God is another.
Jesus said he was Son of God, he distinguished himself from God... so who preaches Jesus was/is God, preaches against Jesus.
Hebrews 1:8 God call Jesus God
@@jakpodcast Hebrews 1:8 cites Psalm 45 where you can clearly read that the narrator is not God. Jesus said God is one, Jesus was Son of God, and he said that his Father is the only true God, his God and our God.
@@pozorovatellidiJesus is the Word, and the Voice Creator of the all things is God. And the Word became flesh in Jesus. Jesus is God in flesh.
Amen.acts.4:12. ?
My Lord and My God!!!!!!! Praise ABBA Father and Lord Jesus Christ One and The Same Person!!!!!!!
Godhead vs. Trinity 3
Someone asked me about the baptism of the LORD'S Christ (the Son). Claiming that this moment proves there's a Trinity. Let's examine the scriptures not my opinions.
Matthew 3:15-17 KJV - And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Here is another common attack Trinitarian preachers use to mock the Biblical Godhead; some of which just don't understand the Godhead or are raised up in the Roman Bapholic (Catholic + Baptist) Churches. Many of those non-denominational denominations fall under this category. They will refer to the baptism of Jesus, when God the Father speaks from Heaven. Here they will say, "if Jesus is the same Being as God the Father, was He speaking like a Ventriloquist?" Again, this is just another absurd attack on the Lord from Trinitarians, which shows their complete ignorance of scripture. The answer to their attack is, of course, very simple: Can a soul speak, when it is apart from its body? Read Revelation 6:9-11, and you will see the answer is a definite YES.
Revelation 6:9-11 KJV - And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
The voice from Heaven is clearly the Soul of the Godhead, speaking about the event which is taking place on the Earth. Much the same way as the souls of the martyrs are speaking in Revelation Chapter 6:9-11, and asking God to avenge their PHYSICAL blood which was shed on the Earth. SOULS DO NOT BLEED. Your flesh bleeds your souls blood. The Fathers flesh (the Son), bled His blood (Acts 20:28). Same Being.
Leviticus 17:11 KJV - For the life of the flesh is in the blood...
"For the life of the flesh is in the blood", and the life our souls are in His Holy Spirit. Gods Soul (the Father) and Spirit (the Holy Ghost) are both eternal and everlasting! If you want further proof of this, then consider what Ephesians Chapter 2 teaches:
Ephesians 2:6 KJV - And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Also examine the following scriptures!
Colossians 2:11-12 KJV - In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Now, here is a truly amazing fact: When God saves you, He performs an operation inside your body. He "circumcises" your sinful flesh, and cuts it free from your eternal soul. So, what you do in your sinful flesh will not affect your soul. Our flesh was tied to our soul and therefore we were under the law. The "grace" is the LORD circumcising our soul from our flesh to live freely in His Spirit, where there's liberty (2 Corinthians 3:17).
Romans 7:5 KJV - For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
This, of course, does not give you freedom to sin, because we know that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:15-23). The Bible also says: "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." (Romans 8:13). Living after the flesh also includes the spirit of Phariseeism. That is, the mindset of "law keeping 'alone' is what saves me from hell", when scriptures are clear that the LORD is our salvation. Or even believing in the Soul (the Father) of the LORD, but not the flesh (Son) that He revealed Himself in.
So, then the question must be asked: If our soul is not connected to our sinful body of flesh, then where is the soul? This is what Ephesians 2:6 is describing, How could Jesus be walking around physically on the earth, and yet His Soul is connected to eternity? The same way that we do today, if you are truly saved. The difference is His Soul is Eternity! The Father! The Bible teaches that we are members of Christ's body (Ephesians 5:30). How does this work, when we are clearly not connected to anything in a physical sense? Simple. It is our soul which was circumcised from our corruptible flesh, that now sits in heaven in perfect union with the Lord. Our soul is the spiritual connection, and the Spirit is the power which guides us into all truth.
One last thing before you get to upset.
Matthew 27:51 KJV - And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
Hebrews 10:20 KJV - By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
The "veil" is the Son, "that is to say, his flesh"! The "his", being the Fathers flesh. The Son veiled the Fathers Glory. He was literally (from wounds) and spiritually torn from twain to twain. Let me explain the significance of this moment. The LORD broke bread and had spiritual communion with us, through His flesh (Son).
1 Corinthians 10:16 KJV - The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
We are able spiritually partake in communion with the LORD, and THROGUH this fellowship and communion with the LORD we no longer have need of vein partitions and traditions. We now have direct fellowship with the LORD Jesus.
Ephesians 2:13-16 KJV - But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
So no. There is not a "Trinity". There is however the Godhead. One LORD. One God. Jesus alone is Yehovah God Almighty. Body (Son), Soul, (Father), Spirit (Holy Ghost). Hallelujah!
Summary: The Father spoke, His Spirit descended "LIKE A DOVE", not "AS A DOVE" (Deuteronomy 4:17) unto His veil, "that is to say, his flesh;" (Hebrews 10:20). Body, Soul, and Spirit. Distinction? Yes. 3? Yes. 3 persons? No. 1 Person, 1 Being. The LORD Jesus Christ.
The baptism of Jesus is the evidence of trinity?! HOW? And what is trinity anyway? How do you apply the principles of the trinity?
My friend i think thats not the question. The key here is, if you believe that there's only one God then you are Oneness believer. The bible tells us clearly in some verses that there's only one God. I think if the trinitarian believe that there's only one God then they are Oneness believer should be. 😑
I was just wondering please, Was the dove meant to be a sign of the poor mans sacrifice?
Wow! That's a very interesting thought!
It also could be a sign of peace...as a dove is often associated with peace...Muslims like to say about Jesus "Peace be upon him."
Jesus sent himself? Jesus prayed to himself?
according to the bible it is the disciples that doing the baptism, even if Jesus is still with them.. it is very unlikely that the apostle would change the baptism from trinity to Jesus name...that absolute contradiction to the commandments of Jesus... THEREFORE..IT IS JESUS HIMSELF instructed to baptism in HIS NAME.. not.trinity
I can see that this man tried very hard to force inside his explanations but it doesn't fit
John 5 :39
Just tell me where do the scriptures testify about jesus not the prophecies about him , where is the testify the old testment only testify for Yahweh so Jesus here is claiming to he himself the only God yahweh
Jeremiah 17:10 says I am Yahwe
Revelation 2:23 jesus claiming to be the same God who spoke in jeremiah 17:10
Isiah 44:24 Yahweh saying he created all things alone no one was with him
Acts 14:15 the apostles were preaching people to repent to the only God who created earth and heaven and they were only preaching the name of Jesus so Jesus is that God
Deuteronomy 32:39 There is no other god with me
Revelation 1 :8 (which is) is Yahweh but the (which to come) is Jesus so he Is the only God
How can trinitarians argue against this?
Look like this Oneness is stopping us to believe in the Father and the Holy Spirit!!! Look like there is no trinity in Jesus's name. God the Father wasn't acknowledged in such baptism!!😂. When John baptized Jesus, the three persons in Trinity were present to witness. Whdn Jesus czme out of the water, the peoole could hear the voice of God the Father shouting from thd sky proclaiming Jesus is His son. Then, the Holy Spirit came down from above as a dove and perched on the Son.
Trinitarians don't teach or believe that God is 3 physically separate people in the way you seem to be stating.
3 distinct persons right ?
Trinitarians are the modalists they project onto one God believers. The 1st person is in the mode of the Father. The 2d person is in the mode of the Son. The 3rd person is in the mode of the Spirit. That's actual modalism
If so, you believe in one God then you are Oneness believer 😑
They always say 3 persons of the God head
As a trinitarian I find that this is a decent argument. But clearly the passage reveals the Father as distinct from the Son and the Holy Spirit as distinct from the Father, etc.
1 Corinthians 4:6 "...do not go beyond what is written."
You are going WAY beyond what is written.
How many Gods are there?
Deut 6:4
Isaiah 44:8
1 Cor 12:4-6
The trinitarian doctrine goes WAY BEYOND what is written. Love in CHRIST, Brother Brand
@@RTVS6720 1. That's what trinitarians believe. One God, three persons.
First century Church took weekly communion. Penecultas dont. Nuff said.
He actually said the voice wasn't necessarily an intelligent person.
Intelligible, meaning understood as speaking in language
No trinity in the bible, abandon and you see truth
Is the baptism of Jesus Christ evidence for the trinity?oh,of course,YES !why do you doubt it...!
Bible says like a dove it didn’t say the spirit was a dove. Trinity is false
This is unintelligible and erratic and a horrible misrepresentation of Trinitarianism