Unboxing the INSANE Göltenbodt Tooling System
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- CNC Machinist Introduces new Tooling System from Goltenbodt & puts it to the test inside our Tornos Swiss GT 32 Lathe CNC Machine.
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00:00 Intro to Göltenbodt Tooling System
00:27 Setting up the Göltenbodt new tooling system
03:01 For more information on the Göltenbodt Tooling System
03:12 Quick change ID Block
05:30 Installing Göltenbodt Tooling System
06:21 Test running parts using the new tooling system
07:28 Inspecting parts for final results & outro
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Good job Donnie... Hi Barry @ 2:40
It really is nice having this tooling system in our Tornos GT32! Already two setups on it and I gotta say Goltenbodt really thought of everything!!!
I would love to see more thorough testing of repeatably.
The shop I work in we do almost exclusively tight tolerance parts in all ranges of materials. This system looks awesome especially since half of a setup could be done before the running job finishes with the right planning and enough tools, holders, ECT.
At my shop we have mostly switched to a tool holder that goes in the normal wedge style slot, but it has a detachable head so you can remove it to replace the insert while all the plumbing stays in place. Setup is just as much hassle, but once running, insert changes are easy and extremely fast. They have heads for threading, turning, grooving, and probably other types of inserts. With that system we don't have to retouch off just because the insert wore out and was replaced, and it repeats to a couple tenths or less.
I can't remember the name of them unfortunately!
@@mgk1397 from what I can tell they repeat within .0002-.0004” pretty much no problem. Do you have a certain type of request for a test I can do?
How about machining a sphere profile on front of part (a small flat on front face of sphere profile would need to be present for use in measuring the part later). Complete the front half of sphere profile completely thru the crest & halfway down the backside of the sphere profile. Transition into a square shoulder & machine a short linear length of some specific diameter by stepping towards the spindle face using a dogbone groover. Cut the part off. Essentially the finished part would looks something like a sphere shaped lolipop with a short stick coming out of one end.
Remove all tools from the block, dunk the modular tools in some coolant, clean that coolant from each tool's registering surfaces, then reinstall the tools & rerun another part.
Measure sphere & other diameter with digital mic. Check all linear lengths on part by standing the part vertically on the table of optical camparator, sphere end down on table (the purpose of that small diameter flat on front face of part mentioned above).
Sounds like alot of part from the over-described ,machinist grade, mental picture that i tried to paint for you, but its really not. Im open for suggestions if everybody thinks this idea sucks. I'm VERY curious how well the modular syatems can repeat. Im in charge of machine & tooling purchases for my company & I desperately want to bring Swiss machining into our business. Ive always heard stories of stupid amounts of time changing over jobs on swiss machines but i believe this equipment has its place in small to medium batch quantity, high precision job shop environments & a test like this would go a long way in providing a good example of just how high precision these machines have become. Are they really ready to help Job Shops compete? Or are these still only a mainstay in high production, low turnover environments? Please show us. 🙏
Maybe even take my suggestion a step further & change the inserts between parts and reset them with the product's presetter?
That IS impressive! Donnie’s videos are very easy to follow. Thanks! 👍
Always nice to see a swiss machining...great video Donnie, your videos rule!
Goeltenbodt is a quality tool holding system. I sold 4 sets for 4 new Tsugamis,it was around, 😊36,000. About $9K / machine. And it had some drill holders
100% agree once you set your coolant just perfect you dread moving those coolant lines THIS would definitely be a game changer 👍🏾 👍🏾
Nice in depth video Donnie and Ben!
Very nice. Emailing Keith about this for a Nomura 20JXB
Crazy system! Would make any Swiss machinists life way easier!
Very impressive video Donnie!
Impressive tool system and love to watch your videos. In regards of touching off your tools with this system you still need to do that in case of new setup and you want to have your tools perfectly on center. This is only my opinion other guys may think different.
Fantastic!!!
Nice!
That's a tool holder!!!!😊
What coolant are you running or is it the Blaser Swiss oil? How does this work with the toolholder geometry from Tornos since it isn't a tornos toolholder?
Does this work with DMG Sprint 32|10 u think? We're thinking about buying one and this would be awesome to put in there
I sent Keith an email. Those are sweet
Does the modular tool gang accept tool holders from other brands, or just theirs? And does it allow for coolant through tool, or just through the block? Thanks!
I didn't see any thru tool coolant, which could be somewhat of a disappointment, but the clamping system in the tool block appears to clamp on a stand holder shank. Unless they use odd/proprietary sizes.
There are two types of coolant thru for the blocks. One is the 3 holes shown in the video the other is an adjustable line that can be aimed at the tool tip. I am not aware of any way to plumb to the back of a tool for thru coolant but I also can’t really see too much of a need for that
kinda wish that they also made a version that works/ fits a normal non-swiss lathe
Wait until TeslaBots do much of this work. Fixturing and tool holders will be simplified further. Efficiency will be key.
Can that be used on a Star SR-20 ?
Yes I’ve used them before
Oh the days before CNC we were like cavemen in today's eyes.
I'm jealous
Enjoy
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If only they had one for a doosan puma 2100 or similar and haas models
I would need to win the power ball to afford this
Click clackiddy duck, this tool system is cool as f$$:)
how to manadge the y on that ?
Probably just have to offset like any other. Repeatability probably makes it mostly non issue.
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Turkish subtitles for evrey video please
First again.
Congrats heres a cookie 🍪
This is so unrealistic to the common people in this business. Job shops can’t afford this type of setup/tooling, let alone making there payments on there Swiss machines. Love what you guys show and teach but come to terms on how to start up and maintain a job shop… especially a Swiss shop.
Gotta spend money to make money
What if someone paid off their Swiss machine and is now looking for ways to improve their processes through reduction in setup time, etc…
We are showing solutions for whoever might need them, we’re not saying, go out and buy this even if you’re cash poor and struggling.. it’s just so people know what’s out there and how it can help them.
Even at a job shop it’ll reduce set up time. And your tools will last longer because of hp tooling and imagine being at a production shop like most Swiss houses with lack of competent operators you need to make it easy for those guys
Swiss machines are for high volume high quality products in the watch industry or metal connectors. Medicla parts.....
When you don't manufacture 24/7 others will do.
Personally I can’t imagine any of these tooling systems are as rigid as traditional wedge type holders either, that sleeve holder looks neat but I really question how it’d hold up to a decent size U-drill.
As slick as this system looks it just seems like more to go wrong.