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Tibet is a region with a mysterious, spiritual flare. And so is the Tibetan language. It has an old literary tradition and in fact probably one of the oldest writing systems still in use in an unchanged, unreformed way. Oh, and did I say that there are actually several Tibetan languages?
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Long live Tibetan language and Tibetan culture !!
Mountain languages are always so amazing and poetic. I love them !
As someone learning Gaidhlig, I agree
Sound is different in the mountains.
I'm certain the acoustics of mountains and ravines shaped the development of these languages. I wonder if anyone has studied the properties of these languages from a geographic deterministic point of view.
It’s going to be interesting when she gets to Pashto or Dari Pashto.
No one cares about any pjeeet language, neither Chinese care about it.
The Tibetan script is one of the most beautiful and intriguing of all writing systems….I hope to someday devote some time to actually learning it!
Tashi Delek! best wishes!
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
you'd better hurry, because this language is bound to disappear, just like any other spoken in Russia and China.
It took about 300 years to develop Tibetan language because Tibetan emperors was sending Tibetans to study Bhuddhist hybrid Sanskrit in Bhuddhist universities like Nalanda in India.
Whole Central administration was involved in this project and there used to be a seperate translation department which includes Bhuddhist scholar from India and Tibetan scholar trained in Bhuddhist hybrid Sanskrit. 🙏🙏🙏
I have a book on Old Tibetan that I got from my linguistics program, and they genuinely are such an incredible, albeit very complex, language family. It’s gorgeous to listen to, and has such a wonderful bouncy sound to them haha.
I love Tibet, free Tibet and please support Tibet.
🙏🙏🙏
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏free Tibet👍
@@tenzindolma2253 I agree with you. In February 1951, three and a half years after the British Raj has left the subcontinent and India was created, India finally trekked up to Tawang, South Tibet and annexed it. The Tibetan Lhasa government protested to India but to no avail. Tawang is the birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to the four hundred years old Tawang Monastery. In 1987 India renamed South Tibet to the so-called Arunachal Pradesh and make it a state. Today after seven decades of thuggish Indian rule, South Tibet is restless and India knows it. India reacted by imposing the draconian AFSPA on South Tibet. AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act) gives the Indian state the power to detain or killed anyone with impunity. It is a law design to intimidate the local people. AFSPA is imposed on area India deemed 'disturbed', such as South Tibet and Kashmir. Free South Tibet from India.
Hey can you talk me
The biggest beneficiary of Tibet's independence is the United States, while the biggest victim is Tibet itself. He will lose transfer payments from China, become poor, and then be used as an insignificant pawn by the United States in dividing and controlling East Asia.
Tashi delek! Thank you for sharing this video, loved it!
Unfortunately, your editing tool didn´t allow Tibetan words to manifest in the right ways, so here are the examples you used in the video:
11:49 - བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས།
12:38 - སུམ་རྟགས
12:48 - ཁོང་བོད་པ་རེད།
12:57 - བོད་ལ་ཁོང་ཡོད་རེད།
14:20 - བོད་ལ་ཁོང་འདུག།
14:37 - ཡོད་རེད་
15:21 - fire མེ་
Greetings
Drukmo Gyal
And འདུག for 'tuk (the auxiliary)
There is also some debate about whether Tibetan was originally monosyllabic. The prefix consonant clusters may have been (sesqui-)syllables at one point.
Thanks, Tibetan is languages and culture are a treasure for humanity.
all Tibetan r so happy to see ur beautiful work n research , thank you madam big respect , new sub, iI am Tibetan born as refugee in India still learn a lot ,
Finally some coverage for this language!
Thank you for spreading awareness and knowledge on Tibetan Language🙏
Added Tibet still has entire 84000 teaching, treaties and commentaries of Buddha Shakyamuni.
What a gorgeous language!
Could you please do a video on Occitan?
It's a language spoken from Northern Spain across the South of France into Italy. It sounds like dialect Italian with a French accent and at one time it was the most spoken language in France. It's also called Languedoc, Provençal and Occitano, a language bursting with songs and poems and folk literature.
Bonjorn!
I am currently learning its 'sister language' Catalan in Barcelona, but I have also briefly been to southern France. Avignon was the most memorable city.
Love and respect to Occitan ❤
@@prathameshdeshpande1668Catalan is the closest language to Occitan, I speak a bit of Catalan and when I visited Toulouse I was delighted to see that I could understand most of the written Occitan. Unfortunately hearing spoken Occitan is becoming less and less common due to the French centralist policies :(
Thanks Juli. I was the one who suggested to research Tibetan for a future video, and I am very pleased with your outcome. I learned many things, and I believe I was right about Tibetan being such and interesting, and fairly unknown language and culture. There is also a long literary tradition (the Epic of Gesar for example) and a lot of untranslated manuscripts. So even such a broad video still leaves a lot of more interesting things to discover. I hope you had as much fun doing it as I did watching it.
As a Burmese, I love Tibetan language because it's easiest for me after Burmese dialects outside Myanmar. I can understand "Nga" I,me, "Nga tso" we, "re'' is and basic original words like eat,leg,cry,is,you,fire,hand, grandfather, male,....
Burmese and Tibetan scripts are the most beautiful and pleasant writing systems in the world for me.
Greetings from spain
I really like Burmese writing system
Trust me you will have a much easier time understanding north East Indian languages, Naga, Mizo, etc. Tibetan would be the hardest for you in actuality.
In khasi language also for "I" we say "Nga"
@@sonam1959_Arunachali are not Tibetan?
First of all. Thank you very much for your effort on this Topic.
I am an exile Tibetan and writer in Tibetan language.
Here you shared a views on Tibetan language which is generally common Tibetan people’s view.
I am not against this. But, if we looked deeply into Tibetan Grammar system and pronunciation of Tibetans and the area where Tibetan language and scripture using on daily basis or for Tibetan Buddhism.
Here you can find just some dialects through the history of Tibet. Which is divided into Tibetan farmer languages and Tibetan nomads languages.
Through the years of my knowledge. There are no Kham, Amdo and Utsang languages. Because those names are base on area. Not based on language.
I mean, base on your view, you can find Amdo language in Bhutan and Utsang.
So this video is totally wrong?
😱
I admire your dedications to world precious languagues. It is so amazing that all those languagues were developed by their local people.
I am from Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan. I am Balti and we use the same script when writing the Balti language. Its amazing to see how widely used the Tibetan script is.
I'm from Baltistan which was a part of Tibbat in past . We speaks Balti language which is the branch of tibetan language . I will like to visit Tibbat their culture language and areas looks like us
YOOOOOOO I MISSED THESE VIDEOSS LETS GOOOOOOO
Amazed by your research and analysis on Tibetan language ❤
བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས། Juley😊
Incredible་vlog 👌💖
We speak Ladakhi. We called it Bhoti.
I can understand U Tsang & Khams spoken language but Amdo is quite difficult to understand.
Bhoti is mixed language hindi. ladakhi .tibetan . It's a mixed. We called mixed language is Bhoti❤
Tibetan language is Tibetan not Bhoti
I cant look at her for too long, her eyes will cause me to fall into a mesmerizing spell.
im so glad to see you've uploaded a new video to give us all some great information to learn!
Glad you've returned Juli, with what seems to be the hardest writing system in the world
It great to see you back...and with such a distinguished language as well!
Love your videos, and so happy I got to learn more about Tibetan. Thanks for brightening my day!
So glad to see you upload again. Hope all is good.
The research is perfect, the contents are great, the delivery is smooth I just wish Julie smiled once a while :)
I so enjoyed this episode.
Excellent your lecture Julingo👏👏👏, it is a complete work, and your eyes keep me so attentive, I would like to learn right now Tibetan language👍🏼❗️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️
Very cool. I learned a lot. Please note there are quite a few spelling errors in the Tibetan graphics where the vowels are misplaced. For example the “naro” should be over the Ba not the Da in the word for Tibet བོད་. There are others as well. Otherwise great content thank you!
Thanks for these interesting details about Tibetan language.
Finally you're back!!!
Wow, you have such an amazing knowledge of so many languages it’s amazing. ☺️
great choice! happy holidays!
Julie, I am amazed at these videos you put together on languages you don't speak but come up with all these interesting facts about it. Thank you 🙏 🇨🇦
Happy to see you again🙂
Love this!! Thanks Juli ❤😊
Excellent video explaining the origin and complicated nature of written Tibetan,
བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས་from Ladakh
Tibet is a fascinating place... would love to visit one day... and also Mongolia... where the magic is strong - Tibetan script has to be one of the most beautiful scripts we as a human species have
Welcome to Tibet, China .
@@REALGUCHENGwelcome to tibet.
I loved the sound of the Amado variant, perhaps because of the strong consonant clusters.
I found it curious that at times the phonetics reminded me of a mixture of Japanese and Turkish.
Amdo Tibetan phonetics is close to Mongolian which is quite similar to that of Turkic languages.
Ohhh that's why!! For a moment I thought I was hearing Kazakh or some similar Central Asian Turkic language
It sounds nothing like Japanese, but yes Turkic and it is due to our close relations with Oirats, and Uyghurs
@@sonam1959_ Oirats are Mongolian, i doubt that Tibetans from Aldo had close contact with Uygurs(maybe Yellow Uyghurs « Yugur » people who live there near Kokonor) But there are definitely Oirat Mongolian people living there, they belong to Khoshuud tribe also they are known as Deed Mongols(Upper Mongols).
@@damian_madmansnest not really with Mongolian. You shoud've known that Tibetan, Mongolian and Turkic r not even in the same family.
Thank you for sharing ❤
Thank you for your effort put into this video. 😊
great historic educational vlog ever,,thank u Julingo fr sharing great reality of Tibetan history cultural n language etc...keep it up,,,
wonderful video!!!
'm happy you did this one!
As a Basque I'm pleased to see that Juli has so much appreciation for my language :D
I was shocked to learn that Tibetan also has the ergative case, although the language theory she explained (the worldwide Dene-Caucasian language family) doesn't have much consensus among linguists and remains a marginal theory.
Aye ; the fact that ergative exists in 2 languages doesn't mean they are related in any way. There are languages that are related and some have the ergative and others don't... Afaik Tibetan and Chinese are related, Tibetan has the ergative, not Chinese (anymore). Kurdish has ergative, not Persian, while they are related. Hindi has ergative, not Sanskrit (its ancestor !), etc...
Very well explained. Much appreciate 🙏
Thank you so much for sharing, so lovely 🥰 to hear
Thank u that was brief and beautifully explained
Thumbs up, you,re so intelligent, able to cope with complicated matters into a concise account.👋
Tibetan is such a fascinating language as is Tibet itself as a whole. Appreciate the content.
I hope one day there will be a free Tibet where the Tibetan language will not be suppressed.
One can't say, concerning Tibetan in Tibet, but the language won't disappear completely since it's spoken in many other places: Ladakh, Sikkim, Zanskar, Bhutan etc, which don't belong to China.
@@gerald-dw7vp Those languages are not Tibetan, even though they belong to the same group of Tibetic Languages. The only Tibetan outside China is spoken among TIbetan diaspora in India and in the West.
@@damian_madmansnest
More of dialects.
The spoken language tends to get more closer to its original written form westwards.
@@Ranjul_kumar All Tibetic languages are only so far close to Old Tibetan. E.g. Ladaks retains the pronunciation of second suffix -s but does not retain initial consonant clusters. Amdo Tibetan and Balti retain the pronunciation of initial consonant clusters but do not retain -s.
They are called languages and considered a language family by linguists.
‘Dialect’ is usually a political term used to belittle languages other than the one considered to be prestigious.
Interesting video. Thanks ❤
Tibetan looks so complex, specially the characteristic of the script which is the exact same from 7th century... It reminds how the Thai script does the same! Thai people can also read and understand ancient texts thanks to their script although the sounds don't match how it was pronounced back then!
It's bcoz both of the the scripts are the descendants of bhrami script.
It is interesting how humans have developed different sounds to convey thought . Just taking one sound to convey the greeting , " hello " , and putting that sound , back to back , on an audio stream of every known language would be interesting to and quite possibly sound like a forest full of birds. Thanks for the share mystic woman ! :O)
She's probably created by AI.
ཐུགས་རྗེཞེ་དྲག་ཆེ་། (tujay shita-chay), Julie. Nice video. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
Thank you Julie!🤗 I can't wait to study Tibetan. I feel it is important because it needs to continue to exist. Right now I am in Nepal visiting my Newari friend. Here they speak many languages, according to my friend. Have you ever done a video about Newari? If yes I say to you, Jo Jo Lapa.😀
Video is really helpful for people who didn't herd about Tibetan or didn't herd too much. Ortography is really complicated even for native speakers sometimes :D
The main problem with ortography in your video is that vowel mark should be placed upper (ghigu, drengbo, naaro) or below (shyabkyu) the root letter. It is very important. For example in your sentence it should looks like that: བོད་ལ་ཁོང་ཡོད་རེད།
I saw that you speak "yod-re". The important point is that all prefixes and some suffixes ("da", "sa" and of course the 2nd suffix "sa") are silent, but they could change pronounciation of the vowel - suffix letters "da", "na", "la", "sa" change "a" to "ä", "o" to "ö" and "u" to "ü". So yod.red should be pronounced as "yö-re".
Prefix (ALWAYS) or head letter (sometimes) make root letter stronger . Because basically "ga" is more like "ka" with lower tone, only with preffix it becames GA like in word "bGu" (pronounced as GU) - nine.
Subscirbed letters (mainly "added ya" and "added ra") could change pronounciation of some root letters.
Also there is one difficult matter about tibetan - spelling. But is useless unless you wouldn't like to learn classical tibetan or try to communicate with native speakers.
Tibetan ortography hasn't changed for ages, but modern colloqiual grammar is very different from the classical one. For me the classical one sometimes is more simple...
Excellent work 👍
Great I have also learned a lot from this content thank you 🙏
Thank you so much for exploring my mother language. And Trison Detsen is the most powerful king in the history of Tibet.
Your knowledge on language is great 👍 well done and your Tibetan is also good 👍 keep it up
you are greate! please keep up the good work!
Very interesting! Thank you!
Thanks for meaningful video🙏👍♥️
You are a genius! Towards the end, it's going over my head.
❤Tashi delek Beautiful Juli la❤thukjeche nang 🙏🙏🙏Bhogyalo ✌️👍🕺💃
THANK YOU JULINGO!
So interesting. Thank You 🙏🏼
Thank you 🙏 for you interest and explanation ❤
Awesome for your hard work / keep it up
Happy Christmas and new year
You are great. Thank you very much
EXCELLENT work, many thanks, Julia! One minor issue with your English, though: It's mostly great, but review the pronunciation of VARIED and VARIOUS and VARIES! ;) Spasibo Bolshoe!
Speaking about the poetic nature of the language, Tibetan poetic culture is derived from Indian (Sanskrit), classic Sanskrit treatises on poetry like Kāvyādarśa are well known and studied in Tibetan monasteries, and while not many Tibetan lamas currently know Sanskrit, practically all of them can write poetry (also due to the isolating nature of Tibetan and lack of short and long vowel distinction it is much easier than writing Sanskrit poetry). And of course, all traditional Sanskrit metaphors are well known in the Tibetan culture.
😂😂 sanskrit itself is derived from Pali.
@@sankettt Sanskrit is a literary standard. Of course it was based on spoken language around the time when the standard was formed. Much earlier than Pali though 🙃
@@damian_madmansnest go and first search for the meaning of the name sanskrit. sanskrit means refined or perfected. so from which language it is refined? or perfected? It is the Pali language from which it has refined and perfected.
@@sankettt Please don’t insult my intelligence by presuming I don’t know the meaning of the term ‘Sanskrit’ or the history of its development. Pali is a Middle Indo-Aryan language extant from 3rd century BC when it was spoken. The earliest Sanskrit is Vedic Sanskrit which was codified in 17th century BC, about 1400 years before Pali. Therefore, the spoken language that Sanskrit was based on (‘refined’ from) could not have been Pali, but it’s much earlier predecessor.
@@damian_madmansnest sanskrit is no older than BC. translate and watch this video if you can👇
th-cam.com/video/sKMf8W7P6zQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YqjS--HnfLww_O-C
by the way are you a foreigner or indian?
Thank you for sharing vidéo 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you , we learn a lot from you .
Very nice program tibetan language course thanks for you ❤❤❤
Thank you very much!
Great job keep going i am proud of you and i
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4:55 For reference, 75% intelligibility is the score given for German vs Dutch or Spanish & Portuguese. In truth, Central Tibetan & Khams should be considered as dialects of the same language, as they'd be able to understand each other better than Slovenes & Serbo-Croatian speakers.
I don't know where she got those numbers from. The consensus in the field is that there are multiple dialects WITHIN Central and Khams language families. For example, Central includes three kinds of To, plus Tsang, U, Phanpo, Lhoka, and Kongpo varieties... Khams similarly is a dialect family in and of itself.
Portuguese and Spanish have intelligibility far higher than 75% in written form (about 95%) and a bit higher on spoken form, albeit asymmetrically: Portuguese speakers usually understand Spanish better than the other way around.
Portuguese and Spanish are NOT dialects of the same language.
@@sgriggl Source is Tyschenko's algorithm comparing wordlists of European languages. I don't care what the "consensus" is when it's clear that there is enough lexical similarity/mutual intelligibility for these two "languages" to be considered dialects by purely objective means. Linguists (along with natural scientists, especially concerning taxonomy) are infamous for splitting hairs & creating clades where they shouldn't exist. The same academics telling us that Afrikaans & Dutch, Scots & English, Serbian & Croatian, or Galician & Portuguese are "totally different languages bro trust me" when actual speakers recount high levels of intelligibilty in both written & spoken forms are trying to gaslight society in applying the same ridiculous logic to the rest of the world. As a speaker of both Standard German & a German dialect (Schwäbisch) I've always recognized how utterly political these arguments are, especially once I started trying to learn many of these languages myself.
@@bustavonnutz You are misunderstanding my comment. "She" refers to the YTer. I don't know where she got this 86% number from. And I'm talking about the consensus of linguists who specialize in Tibetic languages.
Amazing video
Fascinating language and culture!
Nice, video. Thank you ❤🙏☮️🇳🇵
བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས།🙏 thanks for this video ❤
Thanks for the great work you have done for history of Tibet and the Himalayan Language as sherpa we do speak similar to Tibetan.❤
Very interesting. Thanks
Great job👍👍👍
Hi Julie. Do irish next please. Including our crazy Ogham writing system. ❤
Thank you for sharing this vedios
Very Good Thank You Sister🎉
Fabuloso, muchas gracias
I wonder where you got that pronunciation of "various" and "varies." Sounds a bit odd. Great video! Thanks.
Excellent knowledge on tibetan
I love Tibet, very complex system of writing and pronouncing. Interesting perhaps to have a private teacher. THANKS for this inf. You are an expert❤❤
Good effort, history repeats. 🌜
Thank You So Much