The Flash Video Game: Central City Tour
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- This is early game footage from the unfinished Flash video game made by Bottlerocket Entertainment in 2008. When our publisher Brash folded we were about 6 months into full production with about a year still to go on the game so please excuse the roughness of how it looks at this stage. A lot of the core elements were just starting to surface and we were all really saddened that the game couldn't be saved. This video shows off a good chunk of the early production work on Central City. It also gives a good example of the various tricks Flash could pull off as well as really showcase the running speed we were shooting for. Enjoy!
It kills me to even think.
That in another Universe.
This game got created.
it will take probably a thousand years to travel to another universe shit maybe millions or billions
#sadtruth
LOL
Never thought of it that way.
Should appreciate what we have.
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+TacoGamingWorld so....Run barry; RUN !!!! And get us the game
The fastest speed in the game should of been like slow motion or something indicating that he's so fast everything around him seems slow . This game would look amazing with the graphics we have today . Too bad it got cancelled .
We actually tried a first pass at that and it did not work out so great. Because Flash was still running down the street while everything else was slow, players didn't really notice the slow motion because you just ran past everything that was slowed down and your brain didn't have time to register anything was different. That technique works much better when your character is in a static scene and can move around in the slowed down objects. Then the slow motion can sink in. It was definitely something we were going to try again though. A shift in color, slowing down sound, a camera shift...stuff like that would have helped out a lot.
misterbigmouth
that sounds so cool maybe he would slow down to but everything else was like uber slow. so basically the whole game would be in slow motion but because the flash is already so fast it would appear to make everything else frozen and the flash just at a moderate speed.
David Treece
Like I mentioned above, the problem was as long as Flash was running along, people just don't notice that everything else is moving really slowly. Your brain just doesn't process it. Even if we could have figured out a way to make it work, people then would have been upset that Flash wasn't hauling ass everywhere. At the end of the day when making a game where speed is paramount, the character should probably look like he is hauling ass. You really want that sense of motion as a player.
melikai Actully At The Fastest Speed Everything Slows Down
melikai I agree
I hope rocksteady or someone makes this and a superman game, I really want those
Superman will never have a good game by himself
how?
***** how?
+vilepoison156
Dude, you really don't know the Superman fanbase half as much as you think you do.
Really, all we want is a game where Supes is at city busting levels and can punch and be punched through skyscrapers halfway or fully across town, made by people who can actually bother to use google and do their fucking research so that they know all about his rogues gallery beyond the shallow depths of pop culture and know who can go toe to toe, use red solar radiation and magic as de-buffs, use other kryptonite besides green kryptonite as de-buffs... in hi-def. A story better than the shit we had in the first Arkham game and some RPG elements would also be good as well, but really, from a gameplay perspective, what I just listed is all that's necessary.
It really isn't that hard. Fuck, all we're asking is that we, in essence, get to play a flying, super-fast Godzilla who gets to stop crimes, put out fires, stop various natural phenomena from killing people, fight other super-fast Godzilla's on occasion, and fight mooks that could potentially de-buff us to the point where they could do damage either en-masse or individually.
It really isn't that hard. Nothing like making a game true to Cosmic Marvel or DC or true to Dragon Ball Z or fuck, even the original Dragon Ball, yet people still make Dragon Ball related games.
KB Extras no flash is better
Imagine this in the graphics today
OMG it would look amazing! I want a flash game so bad!!!!!!!!!!!
No imagine this in graphics TODAY, as in 2019.
@@RoseMary-bc1wr I reckon the art direction is what makes this game so cool.
@@RoseMary-bc1wr The new Spiderman game makes me shed a tear for the potential this game didn't get to achieve. :/
@@RoseMary-bc1wr I know they should make this a Green Lantern game and an Aquaman game and for that you can customize Aquaman and you can give his suit more armor you can change and upgrade his trident and give him the whole long hair and beard or just long hair without the beard or the other way around and for Green Lantern it should be an open world game and so should Aquaman just explore all of Atlantis and Space and you can customize Hal Jordan's suit too and get all kinds of cool bad ass constructs for the ring.
Why the fuck was this game canceled?
+Mr. MuthaFuckinJ Our publisher ran into unexpected financial issues and had to shut down which left us without anyone paying us. We spent the next few months trying to see if we could get anyone else to pick up the publisher job but we could not close any deals before we ran out of money and had to shut down too.
+misterbigmouth that's a freakin buzzkill. My brother and I talk bout the perfect flash game but don't see it happening anytime soon
+misterbigmouth hay how can I help you to make this game again
+misterbigmouth I'm sure if you got the guys back together you could easily get a kick starter and get this game made and have loads of money, especially with how popular The Flash is now what with the CW show and all.
+misterbigmouth dude even though it was still in production it would have sold alot of copies. you need to get anew publisher because this game looks amazing and it would be a waste to just leave and forget it. so what if you cant get the original game back. this is 2016 man and with the tech we have you can make this an astonishing game that could be as succesful as the batman franchise and mich more so than that puff supermans franchise. dont give up, please man.
1:54 now THATS flash speed
Naseerudeen Muhamed okay lets add light speed to a video game
@Naseerudeen Muhamed
Good luck traveling faster
@jack Sparrow this game was based off of the comic books where he could run many many times faster than lightspeed
OK I wanna play this!
I want it to be revived #ReviveTheFlashGame
+Hunter “Thomas” Sanders I wish. But sadly no. I guess I will just use my imagination to dream of what this game could have been! *Wakes up to reality* :(
+Theendman whop there goes gravity
Dainty Bow *Lands on the wood floor and the rear is sore for 2 days* Why did you have to activate gravity?
+Theendman eh. With the flash movie and The TV show we may get one soon.
Xenoblade Zion There hasn't been a DCEU (DC extended universe) tie in game. As well as the TV show isn't going to be getting any type of game out of it and that is because they only get around 3 million views an episode. Hardly something worthy of a game. Sadly no Flash game in the near future.
If you started a Kickstarter you could easily bring this game back to life, and I can help with that
Unfortunately there are a lot of roadblocks. First and foremost is that you can't make a Flash game without getting the Flash license from DC which is not cheap. Then you would need plenty of cash left over to fund a decent sized team for almost 2 years while the game is being made which is not cheap either. Put both of those together and most games that go up on Kickstarter don't make any where near that kind of cash, and the few that do are usually big names in the industry. I've also seen plenty of big names not even get the money they needed. Which brings me to my last point and that is Bottlerocket hasn't existed for almost 9 years now and there is no team. And you can't just throw a bunch of people together and expect to get funded the amount of cash needed to make a game like this.
If it wasn't a game based off a licensed character it would be much easier.
change it, make an original super hero
That could be an option but then would people really care? The fans, myself included, want to play a Flash game.
It wouldn't need to put it's name "The flash", change it's name, some colors, the villain name and pallete, but maintain the gameplay. It could be a way to avoid DC strikes
Canadian King sounds like something youd say after you shit blood in your pants
Just make the game. I beg you, and promise you that I will be in the first lot of buyers to buy this game.
Shafquat Sharif Sorry But This Game Was Cancelled. It Was Started In 2007 But The Company That Made It Went Bankrupt & So The Game Was Cancelled Only The People That Made It Still Have What Was Made Before Bankrupcy
@@foxygoeswhogaming1626 no the publisher brash or brass entertainment went bankrupt
Love how fast he gets near the end
Finally someone who appreciates it! So many comments say he isn't running fast enough. We know the Flash can run faster than that but there is only fast you can make a character go and still have players be able to control him. Fun always comes first and if players are constantly crashing into stuff because they can't respond fast enough then I'd rather he move a bit slower so you have a more enjoyable time. With that said, we were still looking into ways of making him move faster or at least appear to be moving faster without losing playing control.
@@misterbigmouthtbh I believe your perspective is the more correct, flash wouldn’t be straight out speeding through cities and stuff but start off with a base speed and add or decrease this speed as time went on
Aw man,why the heck this was cancelled? It looked absolutely GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!! It could be The Flash's own "Ultimate Destruction"(you pretty much can do everything the Hulk does in that game)!!!
+Carlos Roberto Silva Junior The game was stopped because the publisher that was paying us to make the game ran into financial issues and had to shut down. That lefts us scrambling to find another publisher to help us out. But we couldn't close any deals before we ran out of money and had to shut down as well.
Ah,man,what a bummer,would've been great to speed through the streets of Central City...
honestly it is such a shame this game was never finished. it looks like it had the potential to be one of the best superhero games EVER!
+Paperguide www.change.org/p/dc-wb-rocksteady-revive-the-flash-video-game Sign this petition to have the game put back into production
I don't want this game made unless the one that posted these videos gets to work on the project. He was part of the original team, he should be a part of its completion.
after seeing the new spiderman game trailer i really thought of this, the flash with a sort of arkham knight would be sooo cool, i so extremely sad too ser that you ran out of finance for the game, i really do think this would be a big big game,especially with all thats going on with the cw show and how big it has gotten, anyways,i hope there is even a small chance this game might come out, id fully support it 🖒
I'd like to see a flash game where you can activate that "Sherlock Holmes fighting prediction" thing from the Robert Downey Jr movie when approaching villains or crossing dangerous terrain in slow motion, then when you run to the end it'll show you everything in real time.
Franklin Turtleton
They did it for Batman.
Arkham Origins and Knight.
@@thejordyoshi for Telltale Batman right?
Actually, that's slow. Flash is more faster than that. in his perspective, all things slow.
If they used Flash's true speed, u won't see him
what they could have done is make something like time slows down when he runs to get a greater sense of superspeed
Unfortunately that doesn't work. We tried it and because you are moving so quickly through a level your brain does not pick up on the fact that stuff is moving slower because its off screen before you register it. The slow time for super speed really only works if you are moving around within a scene. Alternatively, if you slow Flash down so people can see the slow motion effect then you lose that perception of speed that your brain has come to expect from video games. So even if you understand he is supposed to be moving fast, it just doesn't give you that speed rush. We were doing our best to find a happy medium that still made Flash look fast while giving people a way to control him.
That is true. We also could only go so fast for a video game for two main reasons.
1. At the time we were still very early in development and were creating a game engine from scratch. As such, things were not optimized yet and we discovered that if Flash ran too fast he could actually out run the loading of the level assets. So you could arrive somewhere and then see the city sort of pop into existence bit by bit. That did not look good at all and when you have both a publisher and DC to make happy, you make sure things look good for them.
2. We also discovered that you could only allow the character to move so fast before players just couldn't control him and would just crash all the time. And crashing all the time was not fun. Unlike most Sonic games, Flash was not going to be on rails which meant the slightest move on the controller could alter his path. So we opted to make running fun more than comic book accurate. Fun always comes first.
+misterbigmouth for the past month I've been working on a project based of this in unity but with different characters, it features a speedster like the flash, but with different design. How my super speed works is similar to the gtav mod, in mine you slow down time then you can choose to go at four different speeds. The first is around 40mph then the next 200 keep in mind time has slowed down and you still move at a fast yet controllable speed. However this might make combat more boring, because the villains move like snails leaving less of a challenge.
@Rashawn Raysor I'm always willing to share whatever info I can. To answer the new questions:
1. The Speed Force was going to be tracked on a meter. The player would have built the meter through running and fighting. We had plans to have certain moves cost a certain percentage of that meter and the moves available would change depending on whether it was running combat or standing combat. So like bullet time would cost the least amount and could be used multiple times on a full meter and Infinite Mass Punch would have cost the most and would have only been available with a full meter. A lot of the other core moves Flash could do would have been part of his combos in combat. So you wouldn't have to tap into the Speed Force to do everything speed related, we just wanted it for the epic stuff. We had only just begun to implement it so changes would most likely have happened but that was the starting plan.
2. As for Boss Fights they can get pretty detailed and some were planned to be running combat and others had standing combat and many were a mix of both. I'll try to break down a basic one like the Captain Cold fight. In that one, Captain Cold has just finished robbing a bank and was escaping in a vehicle. Flash would catch up to the vehicle and try to do enough damage to it to force it off the road. Captain Cold and his minions would be shooting out of the truck making freezing patches on the road that could cause Flash to slip and crash or making barricades he had to run around. So Flash had to find openings in the attacks where he could catch up to the truck and do damage to it. Once it was damaged enough it was going to crash and things would transition into a hand to hand fight. Cold would activate a bomb that was going to explode in a few minutes and Flash had to take him down before the timer ran out. Cold would have integrated a bit of Weather Wizard's tech into his own and was going to create a swirling ice shield around himself that Flash had to break through in order to defeat him. Flash could have used various attacks or even thrown minions into it to weaken the field. Once Flash had punched an opening in the shield he just had to time it right to dash in through the opening and then could fight Cold directly. It was a bit more complicated than all this,but that is the gist of it.
misterbigmouth Impressive. I was getting around to thinking up how a Justice League game could work in terms of individual characters as well as an online aspect, and I had the very same thought with the "The Speed Force was going to be tracked on a meter. The player would have built the meter through running and fighting." which was pretty spooky to read after having the idea just earlier today. Haha
+Deadpool Jenkins DC universe online
Jeremy Soto Nah, too all over the place. I'd like it to where you couldn't run on any building or jump off of them.
+Deadpool Jenkins but flash can run up buildings tho ao it makes sense
keno reid That's true, I guess I should have specified that I meant running up buildings is fine, but nothing else, like light poles, because it looks silly. It's hard to explain.
Well... guess I have a new form of masochism. Watching this video over and over, knowing that it's most likely that there won't be a Flash video game like this one.
I want a flash game so dam bad the flash cw season finale was so amazing
+THE FLASH yeah ikr now I looooove the flash
+THE FLASH I cried so much on the finale
GuardianJayJay™ Me too it was so sad
Cant wait for season 2 tho, airs in October here in the UK, So excited
GuardianJayJay™ yeah can't wait its going to be awesome
That's honestly a huge shame that the company went under mid development for this game. There aren't a whole lot of great superhero games, really Batman Arkham and the Spiderman games are the only series that comes to mind that has a really successful superhero game, and that's just because they managed to get Batman just right, while a lot of past superhero games didn't really capture the essence of the hero like they should've. A lot of superhero games tend to leave out an open world and just stick to a linear path like in the Deadpool game, but every superhero game should have an open world with their respective city. Linear paths don't fit the superhero mold that well at all. But this game, even for only having 6 months or so in development time, looks like it would've done as well as, if not better than, the Batman Arkham series. I hope someone decides to make a game for the Flash in the future and if they ever do, would be able to nail the speed mechanic on the head just like you guys did. Maybe Rocksteady will consider making all the superhero games, given their success with Batman Arkham. They don't need a while trilogy + origins for them all, maybe just a game or two per hero or one giant Justice League game. I feel like Rocksteady really could perfect any and all superhero video games, so long as they can get the right tone for each of them and not reuse the survival night formula like in all the Arkham games (because really, only Batman is THAT dedicated to crime fighting that he'd only rest AFTER taking everyone out in a single night).
The DEADPOOL game still succeed and sell buy millions it was AWESOME!!!
This flash still faster than DC universe online flash
@Rashawn Raysor You don't have your account set up so people can directly reply so hopefully you will see this. To answer your questions:
1. The plan for villains was to cram in as many of the Rogues Gallery as possible. We had plans for over a dozen boss fights against guys like Captain Cold, The Top, Weather Wizard, Grodd, Tarpit, Mirror Master, Pied Piper, even Murmur was set to make an appearance. I honestly doubt we would have been able to get all the fights in there we had designed but we sure as hell were going to try.
2. If DC were to give Rocksteady the chance to do a Flash game those guys could look at these videos too. I don't have anything else that hasn't been put up online.
3. We were still fleshing out the story but the core of it revolved around Zoom teaming up with Grodd. Grodd created devices that Zoom planted all over the city so that when Flash tapped into the Speed Force anywhere near them, people in the vicinity would get sucked into the Speed Force Dimension. Eventually Flash would have to go to the Speed Force Dimension to get the people and Zoom would fight him there where he believed he was more powerful. Famed DC writer Marv Wolfman was actually working directly with us to shape the final plot.
4. We had not completed a list of all the side missions but we wanted all sorts of little things that the player could do in between the core story beats where he would be fighting the Rogues. Things like rescuing people from a burning building and helping to put out the fire. Helping to assemble barricades to stop flooding. Gather a bunch of parts form all all over the city for STAR labs to help them build something. Lots of running around where time was constantly ticking down. We also had a whole side story where Cadmus had kidnapped Jay Garrick in order to try to create Super Speedsters of their own and Flash was going to be battling against those guys and eventually have a fight to free Jay.
+misterbigmouth man, i went nuts in 1:50, believe me, if the game had happened would be 10 / 10
+misterbigmouth thats really a bummer the game never got made. Iam sure some hardcore fans would buy it either way. The zoom fights sounds awesome to be honest with the speed force involved
How do I get this game
+Adrian Adame As much as I would love to run around Keystone/Central city (I assume it was Keystone considering Wally West was going to be the Flash in the game) all day and just experience the fastness of him running, you don't get the game because it never finished. But there is some flash mods for PC for different GTA games. But unfortunately I have not been able to get those, both, because of not having a PC that works GTA and the fact that I don't really want to spend money on that. I don't have many new games and I CONSTANTLY still play the old ones. I don't have a Xbox one. Or a PS4. So no new games for me. Oh and also, forgot my password with no way to get a new one. (Believe me I tried many different things with no luck.) So I can't play Xbox live, and the PS3 I have, has no good games with good solid online fun! (tried Black ops 3 (rented it) and the servers were so bad I took it back early.) So yeah. No new things for me. But this would be fun if I could change time and have this game come out. :( Fantasy sucks, because you eventually have to wake up and realize, it just isn't real! :(
+Theendman yea my pc only runs gta iv which doesnt seem to have a good flash mod or even a flash mod this game looks nice with if there were lots of quest and stuff it would be nicer but since its not coming its sad it looks good and theendman u got any mods for gta iv? like the flash mod
"My name is Barry Allen. I am the fastest man alive. When I was a child I saw my mother killed by something impossible. My father went to prison for her murder. Then an accident made me the impossible. To the outside world I'm an ordinary forensic scientist, but secretly I use my speed to fight crime and find others like me. And one day I'll find who killed my mother and get justice for my father. I am the Flash!"
Honestly im sick and tired of all the batman games recently and you guys should really revive and polish this game i mean it is there already just needs some tweaking like everything should be in slowmo around him.
Oh and maube an Arrow game....just sayin
Besides its about time they make other DC heroes into the videogame lights. And a i know everyone would like to have a Flash, Arrow, WonderWoman game just my opinion on things. Cause batman get old for 70 percent of gamers who like it.
I would love to revive the game but even if we still had all the code and the art we had at that point it was still a long way off from being done. We still had more than a year to go development when the studio shut down. Combat was just getting in there. We just had started getting traffic and pedestrians moving around. There were no missions built, no boss fights implemented, very few speed force abilities. So much we wanted to pack into the game.
As for slowmo it doesn't work right when running. We tried it and the player was moving by stuff so quickly that players could not tell that the world around them had slowed down. We could have slowed Flash down too and made it feel similar to what they do in some racing games but then you lose the fact that he is running really fast through the streets. Slow motion really only works when you are in a static environment and your brain can process what is happening. We would have had a bullet time feature for Combat so you would have gotten it there.
same here. origins didn't need to happem, 3 arkham games sounds like more than enough good batman games. i'd say they try to make a good fun superman game while they're at it, idk how they'd make a wonderwoman game.
YES! EXACTLY!
Aspired Gods Yes yes and yes. Batman unfairly dominates games as he does movies lol. Thankfully with the success of Arrow and Flash shows, hopefully we can see some different characters break through. Arkham game engine can easily be modified into an Arrow game. Wonder Woman has all the makings to be a cool God of War hack and slash game. And where is the love for superman!? We have the technology for a kick ass game franchise.
Man the game looks fun. Sad to see this game was cancelled
Came from new video titled why it's hard to make a flash game
1:34 who’s idea was it to bring Mario sounds in the game? 😂
I know this probably is just a joke but that's just flash saying it
This can be done.. this has potential
Still faster than the dcuo speed
Boomer Dante Not really but ok
Dceu flash isn't even full potential, game is based off Wally West so he had experience as kid flash and new flash so just think
Faster, but less mobile... you can still jump to wherever you want.
I watch this over and over again in awe. And i yearn.
Ok. So I Reader your comment about the slow mo thing and I came up with an idea. What if you use the right trigger of the controller to speed up the flash. The further you hold down the trigger the faster he goes with the peak being as fast as at the end of this video. So now how about using the left trigger to slow everything around him down ( speed up his perception). The further you press the left trigger down the slower everything around him becomes (but the flash stays normal). If you press the left trigger down completely he would be as fast as he is at the end of the video but while seeing everything at his speed. And if you press both triggers down as far as possible he would reach his maximum speed because everything around him is slowed down AND he runs as fast as he does at the end of the video ( even for his perception). This system would make it possible to vary between slow mo and normal depending on the situation and what is necessary.
Just an idea. :)
THIS is what a sonic game should be!
but sanic is beter than this game is it not.
Valentino Aguiar
That's is not a comparison that could be made. We were only 6 months into production with over a year to go on making the game. I'm confident that if we could have finished the game we would have been able to stand toe to toe with that little blue hedgehog.
misterbigmouth I was only joking don't worry. You should have been able to tell by the misspelling and not any use of punctuation.
Sonic Adventure.
trust me your game at this point now is better than sonic sonic has died so badly you have already crushed him
I would have bought this game if it had come out i think Because the flash is my favorite DC character and not many games do him right which is sad. But this looks like it does.
I wish it happened looked promising and cool
@Dylan Saunders ...sigh....so very frustrated with TH-cam not always allowing me to respond directly back to posts. So idiotic. Anyway...assuming you see this post the answer to your question is that I was apologizing for how rough the quality of the graphics looked. We were only 6 months into production on the game. I think most people believe that games look incredible from day one but that is as far from the truth as it could be. The large majority of games get everything in to about a 75% or so finished state through out the life of the project and then spend the last few months before release polishing everything up. So we still had a long way to go before any of our graphics would have been considered final.
misterbigmouth It's not TH-cam not allowing you to reply to them it's them, they didn't turn on public replies in their Google+ settings.
Invis Cheetah Yeah I know, but it was a change TH-cam/Google made on the account side putting that option in there...something that never should have been done in the first place. If you are going to comment on a public forum there should be nothing stopping people from replying back to you. It adds a layer of protection for trolls that is completely unnecessary.
+misterbigmouth Is called *freedom* and people can stop whoever they want too such as block or mute so live with or get off social media.
this game would have been awesome
0:53 pause and you will see flash design for this game
@Christopher: The music is called Half Pipe by Huma Huma. It's one of the free music tracks provided by You Tube. They actually have a pretty decent library of really good music.
This looks like it could have been pretty good. I hope a Flash game gets made some day. I've been playing Saints Row 4 and I just see a lot of potential with how it could work and be fun. I haven't played it yet, but even some of the things I've seen in footage of the game Quantum Break, I think would work great in a Flash game. Hopefully it will happen one day.
0:14 rule 34 artists when they see a new female character
That was awesome! I'm bummed out that it got canceled. An open-world Flash video game like that video would've been good. Reminds me of that canceled Avengers video game that I thought it would've been good as well.
Why????? I.... I..... I can't, I must leave now
Quick, hide in my channel.
Tecosaurus bad
@Andrew Spryszak: I did not get the option to reply to your post (I hate that that happens on You Tube all the time now...sigh) so hopefully you see this. We did not have any voice actors yet, it was still too early in the project. We had been thinking about Ryan Reynolds for the voice because at the time it was the Wally West version of Flash and we thought he could be pretty fitting. That was all we had thought of though. As for Villains, we were going to try to cram in as many as possible. Pretty much his whole entire Rogues Gallery was slotted to appear in some form. I already had boss battles planned out for guys like Captain Cold, Captain Boomerang, The Top, Mirror Master, Weather Wizard, Trickster, Abra Kadabra, Tarpit, Grodd, Professor Zoom, and even Murmur. Odds are good not all of those boss fights would have been done but we were gong to do our best to make sure we got in as many as we could.
if you ever get tapped to do this game please make the boss fights ope world. too much confinement in these type of game when it comes to boss fights. it should have a totally destructible environment where everything in it can be used as a weapon. btw this game looked like it had much potential nice job
You know the Flash tv show is doing really well. You still might get a chance to develop this game on a next gen console.
misterbigmouth I figure if this does have a chance at being a game sometime in the future a noteworthy thing to have would be a "Fast Perception". THere are a few mods in skyrim and one in GTA San Andreas and they allow you to run at the same speed but essentially everyone is in slow motion and you'd have enough time to react to your environment.
Turtle Chef We tried that but it didn't really work. Flash was moving so fast that you ran past everything in a matter of seconds and your brain couldn't register that the world was frozen. And if you slowed Flash down to the point where you could notice, then it didn't really feel like he was running all that fast. We still had a lot of other tricks we were going to try and I'm sure a version of slowing time would have made it in there somehow.
eon001
Quantum Break did not crack the code. They still have a normal human guy moving at normal human speed through a frozen scene. He is moving at a speed your brain can tell what is going on. Now speed that guy up like 10 times faster and move through that same scene...huge difference. Like I mentioned above, we could have slowed Flash down and used the time effect but then he doesn't really seem like he is moving at super human speed which is the whole point. Players want to see a Flash that is blazing through an environment, not a dude that looks like you or me moving through a frozen one. But again like I said, we still had a few tricks to try so I'm sure we could have gotten to some sort of compromise that would have made sense.
And there is no Kickstarter. Not yet at least. It's not quite that easy. I'm pretty sure the licensing fee alone would be more than we could earn through Kickstarter. I'm trying to reach a contact I have over at WB/DC to find out what their plans are though. If I hear anything I'll be sure to post the news.
1:53 HOLY CRAP!!!!
I know,right ?
I mean we got sonic frontiers now
Pisses me off that we didn't get this game i would've really wanted this
It sucks when this sort of thing happens. A Flash game could have been fun. I certainly loved running around as Flash in Lego Batman 2.
There's a game called Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth that had lots of development issues, and even though it was eventually released, you can tell the game is unpolished and rushed, so I'm not sure which is worse.
know how many calories this dude burns without breaking a sweat? LMAO
This speed mechanic is very good, especially for a game only in development for 7 months, but I feel like Infamous: First Lights did it better. No offense, if you're even reading this, but the whole "speed" thing seems like a gimmick in this game. All you need to do to nail speed mechanics on the head, is to take Fetch's speed and bump it up to around 13 times faster, and make Barry's(I'm assuming its Barry in the suit)speed have multiple levels. Possibly have him do the "Infinite Mass Punch" to the final boss(that would be so cool), and make The Flash's fighting style reminiscent, but still not a complete copy, of the Arkham games' combat. Barry could have a mode where he can slow down time that can be upgraded in the home menu, make his zip from enemy to enemy, and drop lots of easter eggs to the JL. In the story, Barry could also get stuck in the Speed Force, and finally break out, after what seems like days, has been years, with buildings falling. This would take on a some what of a Flash Point vibe, as Barry is racing through anarchy, speeding towards Professor Zoom, who has Iris in one hand. Thawne says, "You've finally failed, Flash." He holds up Iris, who is now shivering with fear, "You're not fast enough." Eobard then begins to thrush his vibrating hand into Iris, but its in slo-mo, to see what Barry sees. Barry's reaching out, picking up more and more speed, running towards Thawne, shouting, "No Thawne! Please, don't!" But Barry fails. He truly wasn't fast enough. Thawne drops Iris' limp body onto the ground , as Barry rushes to grab it. Eobard begins to chuckle, looking over a kneeling Barry, holding his dead wife's body. Lightning starts to flash in Barry's eyes, "You started this battle, and now, it ends." Thawne looks almost disturbed at Barry's flat tone, but quickly forms another grin. Flash looks up, and clenches his teeth. ---Most of this battle would be in slow-motion, with bits of normal speed mixed in to see the damage that each blow both of them is doing has on their surroundings.---- I'm not sure how the combat would go, but it would be very hard, with Professor Zoom blocking almost every blow you deal. This battle isn't fueled by saving a city anymore, it's about vengeance. Your blows become more dangerous, as you would be able to see by the cars being blown away every time you punch Thawne. You're running up buildings, across water, and into other parts of the world, using different techniques to try to stop Thawne, as he is with you. You finally fight to a stand still. Zoom is looking worn down, but still has a grin on his face, knowing he has truly won. He says, "You see know, Barry, this is what happens when you try to be a 'hero'." Barry lets Thawne taunt him for sometime, but unknown to Thawne, he's just trying to draw some final bits of speed out. Now, there are two ways that this ending could go, so I would like for people to choose if they are reading this:
1. Barry travels back in time to save Iris from being killed.
or
2. Barry delivers a line, and runs around the world as fast as he can, creating an Infinite Mass Punch, and ending Professor Zoom.
+Cool Cat I appreciate the feedback and a lot of stuff you suggested was stuff we were doing (you can see samples of some of it in the other videos I've posted) and I'll get to that in a second. I did want to first address your feedback on the speed mechanic just so we can set the record straight here. Does the Infamous stuff look really good? Of course it does. But it's an unfair comparison. We were a game only 6 months into development whereas that is a completely finished and polished game. We were running on a custom made engine that we were building from scratch and they are running on a second generation Infamous engine. We were running on a PS3 and they are running on PS4. So to say they did it better is like saying a Dutch master did a better painting than a kid in kindergarten. It's true but not really fair. If we would have had the chance to "grow up" a bit, it might have been a
different story.
As for the speed being a gimmick I'm not sure what you are talking about. Flash = Speed and his speed was an integral part of the game. The mission structure was going to be set up much like how the first Dead Rising threw stuff at you. The player was going to have multiple emergencies that he had to handle, all with time limits on them and you were were going to have to pick the most optimal routes to race around the city and try to succeed on all of them possibly even bouncing back and forth between a few of them. Let's see Spider Man try to do that :). This video was just a tour of Central City but if you actually watch the gameplay video you'll see more examples of speed being used as actual game mechanics including having multiple levels of speed (which you can see in this video too)
As for your other stuff, Flash in this game was actually Wally because at the time Barry was still dead in the DCU. We were sort of going for the first time he put on the suit vibe and him dealing with now being the Flash and all the pressure that comes with adopting that identity. He would have fought Zoom as the ultimate main bad guy and the Speed Force dimension played into the final fight. He was going to have an Infinite Mass Punch move that he could use and he most definitely would have had to use it on Zoom to defeat him. His combat was not like Arkham though because that is how Batman fights. Our combat was built off the fighting style we created for Mark of Kri and it allowed Flash to dash back and forth between many enemies at once using quick blows and speed based moves like a speedster would fight.
As for your storyline it's very interesting but it's very dark and we felt Flash should be a more lighthearted game. Let Batman have the the dark story lines and let some of the heroes just enjoy being heroes again.
+misterbigmouth I don't really know what I was talking about with the whole "gimmick" thing. It was pretty late at night, and I hardly even remember posting that comment. I went dark, because I'm more used to writing darker stories. The whole zipping from enemy to enemy was mentioned by me as well, but the your combat was definitely much more thorough and though-out. The missions sound very interesting, and the campaign even better! Thank you for responding to my comment.
P.S.
I watched the combat demo, and it looked very interesting. I would have liked to see Flash use more of his environment(like Arkham Knight, but more available), but sadly this game was only in development for 6 months, so it would have probably been worked on later. Also, have you ever considered a crowd-funding campaign? If not, I highly suggest you try it. Just look a Nightwing: The Series on Ismahawk's channel.
+Cool Cat There were definitely pans to use more of the environment in some of the fights. Like we had talked about there being a spool of construction cable that Flash could use to quickly tie someone up with. Flash was supposed to be able to charge at certain objects in the environment and either use them to bounce off of or to vault over. We had a fight against Tar Pit in a construction site and Flash would have had to ram into things in order to move them and set up a whole mouse trap sort of thing to stop him. Things like that.
And yes I have considered the whole crowd funding thing but the biggest obstacle we would run into is getting enough money to pay for the license as well as the game. A Flash license these days is not going to be cheap and having to earn enough money for that as well as start up money to get things going would be pretty hard. I've tracked a lot of games on Kickstarter and very few of them even get enough money to just start on the game and those are by pretty big names. You can try to make a Flash game without getting the license and hoping that DC would pick it up and publish it, but that is incredibly foolish. I'm sure these days DC has some plans in there for a Flash game and the best bet it is to get on their good side. I'm not saying never though. My former boss was looking to start a new company and we do still have a contact over at DC and I'm hoping someday the two of them will actually get a chance to talk.
+misterbigmouth Sounds good. Thanks.
Also there should be a bonus ability when you beat the game where before you fight or want to attack something a whole menu pops up and allows you to move around punching things then when you're done you can hit a play button and would play the fight scene in what ever speed you want it to go then after that you could resume regular gameplay.
we don't have a SINGLE good superhero game. Not on any platform we don't. Please revive this project. It looks and (after having viewed the other gameplay footages) feels solid.
*AHEM!! Arkham City!!! *cough cough! Arkham Asylum! *COUGH Origins! Arkham cough *cough! KNIGHT!!!
Open your eyes a little bit. There are lots of good super hero games, the Arkham games, X men Origins Wolverine, Spider man Shattered Dimensions, etc etc.
true true. but superpowers?
Wolverine and Spiderman don't have superpowers?
would you define those titles as "good"? plus, they're Marvels ...
Yes, I would define them as good.
2:26 statue dabs man I love this game
he's running to slow. other than that it looks good.
Dante Palermo If he went super fast it would be unplayable
Tux true, true it might even crash
Damn son I know flash is much faster than that but we don't have very fast reflexes to not get hit by walls or enemies.
I know this was posted 3 months prior, but I believe that they intentionally limited his speed because they were trying to emulate Wally West at the beginning of his career as Flash (not Kid Flash). The first 40 issues or so of Flash Volume 2 (where Wally took over as Flash) largely dealt with Wally attempting to overcome his serious speed limitations (he could barely run faster than the speed of sound, I believe). He got a major speed boost in #24, when recovering from the loss of his powers by replicating the explosion that granted him his speed in the first place, but then he had to deal with psychological issues relating to his predecessor/mentor's death that were preventing him from reaching his maximum speed.
Overall, I am confident that the developers knew their stuff when this game was in development.
We tried that and it just didn't feel right. If you just slowed down the world and not the Flash you went past things too fast to even notice they were slowed down. If you slowed down the Flash so you could see all those thing, mentally you understood you were looking at someone using super speed but you lost the adrenaline rush of actually moving at a fast speed. We opted to go for the adrenaline rush since at its core Flash was a racing game.
misterbigmouth Hey there, I've seen multiple comments from you that deeply intrigue me. I have a number of questions for you and I'm not sure if it should be in private or not. I'm indeed a fan of the Scarlet Speedster, but even more so when it comes to the Man of Steel. You said you've seen some of the early stuff from the cancelled "Blue Steel" project and I'm curious as to whether or not you could elaborate on that. Also, you say you have a contact at WB Interactive and I'm wondering if you could ask them if there are any Superman based plans in place. I've made a piece dedicated to the idea of a game surrounding the icon and have recieved positive feedback. I was even suggested to start tweeting the article (currently a rough draft and still a lot of work to be done) to people like Geoff Johns, who work with the gaming industry. I am sorry about what occurred with Brash. It's a shame to see such an impressive concept go to waste, especially one that seems to have had the right people making it. Get back to me when yo can, thanks!
misterbigmouth This is what I was referring to.
Mha is dead and doesnt exist
im not surprised the publisher pulled.
the game might be amazing, but the flash at the time wasnt very known. most of the people who knew him were comic book readers.
there are only 3 superheroes that can find success outside of cartoons and comic books and they are superman, batman and spiderman. the 3 had movies and tv shows worldwide for decades and were the pillars of the comic book industry in every media.
now with the success of the the CW show The Flash, this game had a chance but never in 2008.
The publisher didn't pull the game. The publisher, Brash, ran into financial issues and unexpectedly shut down leaving us with out anyone to fund the game. We were unable to finalize deals with other publishers before we ran out of money and had to shut down ourselves. Had that not happened, the game would have come out as both the publisher and DC were very happy with the it. And I think it actually would have done pretty well. There were a lot of really interesting things going into the game that would have resonated with gamers even if they weren't superhero fans.
1:54 That's how fast Flash should have ran in lego batman 2: Dc Superheroes.
So .....sonic basically
+Whispy Woodz They could've called this game "The Flash: Super Sanic"
But ya, a Flash game won't sell well at all.
***** Batman had potential for a good game since before the arkham series but none were bright enough to deliver, any kind of Flash game would be quite underwhelming as a game overall.
Story mission: run here, punch a guy, run there, punch a guy. So on so forth.
+HenryDoesFilms bruh Sonic had several more TV shows more game appearances and is even getting an entire motion picture then flash..flash's biggest medium of media is "comics & that show that ripped off the base concept of smallville, I'll even give em young justice..even though it was cancelled (just like this game) but neither here nor there because I was just talking about the mechanics of the game itself it would have been "running, jumping & getting power ups platform style"..hmm who originated that🤔 sonic bro...the game itself bares a huge resemblance to a semi mature version of "sonic adventures"
The Flash came first before Sonic so...
@Isaiah Carter: You don't have your account set up for people to respond back so I don't know if you will see this or not. Thanks for the kind words. I was loving this game and was very sad to see us shut down and not be able to finish it. The song used in the video is called Half Pipe by Huma Huma. It's one of the free music tracks provided by You Tube. They actually have a pretty decent library of good music.
misterbigmouth its me but how did you find this footage please umm I was wondering if you can please try like I'm begging you I almost crying at this point and my hopes keep going down and up just please man is there anything i can help with just tell me and I know you getting mad about answer the same question so I keep it simple bit if there is anything tell me all of your secrets are safe I won't tell no one
I didn't find the footage, I created it. I was a designer at Bottlerocket working on the game. When the studio was forced to shut down I recorded as much of the game play as I could so I would have something to put into my portfolio. As for helping out there really isn't anything that can be done unless you know someone that works at WB/DC or have a super rich relative that is willing to spend a few million dollars to start up a studio :)
No but you could ask them and show the footage and see if there interested
Do you agree
Unfortunately it doesn't quite work that way. Even if I managed to track down someone from WB who would take a look at the footage again and they thought it was cool, there is still no team to work on the game. Bottlerocket shut down almost 9 years ago and everyone has scattered. And you can't just assemble another team that has no experience in putting out a game and expect DC to just hand you the license to Flash to make a game for them. That would be like assembling a bunch of film school graduates and asking Disney to let you do the next Star Wars movie. You have to have a proven track record.
Darn it! This would of been awesome.
This almost hurts to watch...I look at this and wonder "why...why didnt this come to fruition" its very sad and unfortunate that this was not completed. I can only imagine what you could have done with this character from the speedforce aspect right up to time travel (dammit)
I know that pain very well. This game was my favorite game that I ever got to work on. I was seriously depressed that the game never got to be released as I could see in my mind how much fun this game was going to be and I was looking forward to sharing that with the world. Sadly it was not meant to be.
I can't figure out how to answer your nice comment, so just putting it here...thanks for your kind words, surgery went well,
I probably would have bought this game, it looks pretty cool
this looks amazing. the concept art and everything are just spectacular. im not even a huge flash fan, this just looks like so much fun
my only problem with DC is they focus on too much batman games besides injustice.. A game about the flash would be good could make him fast or everything slow but add challenges to the game like a time limit to save civilians or racing but obstacles in the way when fighting a boss like the reverse flashes just my opinon
They should make a CW game of the flash. ^w^
Diana Prince that's the worst version of flash to make a game about. It should be like the Arkham games.
aw common really i dont like to be dark all the time. I need a new take maybe bruce timm
Diana Prince yeah bruce timm's version of the flash was pretty good.
It's AMAZING how you'll were able to make the graphics frame rate keep up with his speed. And I like the way you had the newspapers get caught in his stream as he stopped near the end. Also the music was very appropriate.
*Suggestion:* I believe there is room for one more higher level of speed, and the way to pull it off is to make him have tunnel vision, where the only thing he sees clearly is the road, and everything else is literally a blur. This way you don't have to concern yourself, so much, with making sure the environment loads up in time. This would mean that everything else like car, people.... EVERYTHING stops moving, and make it so he can run over cars by default/automatically.
Thanks for the positive words and great ideas. There are two issues with that suggestion though:
1: At some point you go too fast to actually control Flash. People just didn't have the reflexes to turn him quickly enough even when we started testing out an instant 90 degree turn. The amount of time it took people to process "oh crap there is a wall I need to turn" to actually doing it was long enough that people crashed like crazy. That was not fun. So we needed to balance out Speed with Fun. We still would have tried other things to get that illusion of speed up more but Fun came first.
2. You still have issues with loading times because even if stuff blurs out we were giving players the ability to stop dead at any time which is what made us different from a Sonic game (and what stops us from going even faster). If the player stops, the environment still has to be there...can't have it trying to load in and play catch up. Again the game was really early and stuff was no where near optimized so hopefully loading would not have been an issue but it was something we were seriously watching and finding ways to work around it.
misterbigmouth
Oh ok, that makes sense. And I suppose allowing the character to automatically run up the walls at that level of speed would still pose a problem? Or could that be implemented?
I envisioned that super high level of speed being an unlockable after the player beat the game and went back in to the open world for some extra fun and challenges. Nevertheless, you'll definitely were on the right track- uh, no pun intended. :)
Ethromel We already had Flash running up buildings automatically so that wasn't an issue and we were already implementing what you suggested with allowing him to run up and over certain cars. The problem isn't with going straight, it's with turning. Most cities don't have long winding curves for their roads. They have 90 degree intersections. Which is why were getting in instant 90 degree turns for the character. The issue just came down to human reaction time. As much as I wish we all had Flash's reaction time, we just don't. Sure through training players would get more used to it, but you still want to make sure that when a player picks up the controller the first time and runs really fast they have a fun time doing it which won't happen if they run a few seconds and then crash. I'm not saying there was no way to solve it, we were definitely exploring a lot of options. At the time, that was the issues we were facing and we were trying to work around them.
misterbigmouth when flash has to turn at top speed why not make this moment in slow mo
Shinan Zaman
The problem isn't turning per se, it's having the reaction time to turn at the right time. Going into slo mo on the turn doesn't do the player any good if he didn't turn in the first place.
as a flash fan
I need this game to be revived
it would be a gift from God to me
Too bad they canceled it :(
Shame...
It’s crazy, I remember watching this video all the time it’s been 9 years already
do you guys think you can this game back in development again?
Like a kick starter campaign? With the new Flash series and Man of steel movie coming out you can defo take advantage of the craze?
ROLLIN' AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND GOT PLACES TO GO GOTTA FOLLOW MY RAINBOW
Hope I'm not the only one with this song in his head while watching this XD
This game is for video gamer.
I wish they did like sonic utopia and just gave you a sandbox stage to run around and stuff ..even if there was no enemies or anything to collect i'd still play the shit outta that lol
Sad. I wish the game existed. I would play it till I die
Think about that :
Flash Video Game 2018
You cna explore whole central city, in few seconds
You can make time slow and still be fast - fights with mechanics from Batman Arhaham Trilogy. If there will ever be game like this i would take and give all of my money for it!
hopefully a developer can capture the new show or even Arrow. Both IP's are just begging for faithful video game adaptations, and with Rocksteady's arkham franchise and Injsutice already paving the way; i don't think there is even a question on the demand for good superhero games. Especially in the rich and under-appreciated DC universe.
Agreed. I love Batman as much as the next guy but DC has a wonderful stable of interesting superheroes that could make great game characters. They just need the right people to make the games. We at Bottlerocket would have made a pretty awesome Flash game. The core group of people designing the game were Flash fans and we were doing our best to make sure it was as faithful to the comics as our tech (and our budget) would have allowed us to be.
Hi, I would love to use the footage on my channel to create a short documentary on this game's development. Would you allow me permission to use it? The project looks very ambitious and I have read over its design docs numerous times. Thanks.
+Tamaki Sorry I didn't see this until now. Yeah feel free to use the footage just please put some sort of link back to here so people know where you got it from. I'm curious to know where you read the design docs for it. I know I had a few pages of it up on my website but I wasn't aware the doc was out there anywhere. I'd just want to make sure that whatever you read was the real thing. And if you have any questions about anything feel free to ask.
+misterbigmouth Thanks! May we speak in private about it? Do you have an email I can get you at?
Rocksteady should think about a Flash game as well as Superman, Green Arrow and Cyborg.
a green arrow game would be pretty fun. could be like batman without the crappy batmobile
+Jeremy Soto the batmobile wasn't crappy
Damian lafrance it was overused which made it crappy
+Jeremy Soto Agreed!
I love the blurriness of his colors as he runs
Hey, randomly found this while wondering why I haven't seen a Flash game in, like, ever! It looked very promising! I'm sorry this project didn't work out but hopefully you've found other game work in the meantime! Ignore the haters here, btw, just keep building cool shit!
damn this game op and got in the recommended list in 2021 lmao
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i wish this was real cus dcuo n makin flash is the only closes thing i'll get :(
Imagine this game with updated graphics and new gameplay this game would've been great!
So unfortunate, watching the flash and arrow on the CW got me into thinking that a flash game would be amazing as well as an arrow one. Early footage looked amazing for the year but if only you and your past team could make it and implement the engine and combat system from the batman arkham series. Would have been a truly amazing and unique gaming experience.
+Carpio G As cool as the Batman system is, I'm not sure it would have been a better choice than the combat system we had. We were using the system that we created for Mark of Kri. It allowed you to mark multiple targets and then with a simple button press dash over to them and attack them. For a character who moves at super speed, it seemed like the best way to allow him to bounce back and forth super fast between enemies like you would expect Flash to be able to. And that would have helped make it an amazing and unique gaming experience.
THE MUSIC ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that type of speed man I wish that will be on dc universe
1:34 Mario?
Kind of looks like a boost-to-win Sonic game
0:42 Actually, Kid Flash runs that fast. The Flash is way faster. (I'm a know it all geek. Sorry)
the graphics and the fact that we’re playing as an character with super speed just makes it feel like this is an sonic game. Hell even the music, this music feels like something sega would use in an sonic game
this game would be amazing with the graphics they have now
+Saul ALsumaiti yeah me to I never actually liked him before the show now he's my favorite superhero
is anybody else getting a sonic vibe out of this😂😂
Hopefully this company saw Degenerate Jay's video on why a Flash video game is so hard to make.
Basically he implies mostly on just how Over Powered Flash can be and obviously after playing it for like 10 minutes you will be bored since there's no challenge.
Most DC heroes (apart of Wonder Woman and Batman) have a near impossible task of having a great balanced video game that it not from Lego.
Yes if you tried to make a Flash game based around what his powers should really be like then it would be impossible to do. But the same should be said about the TV show (and even the comics a lot of times). I mean how many times on that show has the Flash shown up at the scene and stopped to listen to a bad guy rant when "in reality" he could have just ran in there and pummeled the person into submission without them realizing he was there? There should never be any real challenge on that show either. So you take some creative liberties with it and you make it as fun and entertaining as you can.
We had a whole list of ideas that we were working with that would have translated into some fun game play. We had enemy speedsters that would have attacked you while running so you would have a had a Road Rash style of moving combat. We had Grodd who set up hidden devices all around the city that created pockets of danger zones that sucked the speed force away from Flash when he was using his abilities around them to slow him down. We were setting up the mission structure to be somewhat like the original Dead Rising. The police radio was constantly spilling out all these different situations happening all around the city and each of them had a time limit to complete them in and the player would need to figure out how to prioritized those so he could zip around the city trying to take care of as many of them as he could. Toss in side missions, epic boss fights and a city that was really fun to just around in and I honestly feel people would not have gotten bored with. I mean we barely had any game play in the game and I had a blast just running around and so did everyone else who was testing it including executives from DC.
As long as developers are creative, and fans are willing to see the "fun" in the ideas and not get hung up on what Flash is really supposed to do there is plenty that can be done with a Flash game to make it worthwhile.
I remember watching this video in childhood thinking The Flash had a game out good memories 😂😂💯
Why did they stop?! I would love a solo Flash video game!!! They need to make one today because they have better graphics and advanced technology to make this! I think Rocksteady should make a Flash game.
We stopped making the game because our publisher who was funding us ran into money issues and closed down. We searched for a few months trying to find a new publisher but were unable to close any deals before we ran out of money and had to shut down too.
Holy shit that's what I'm talking about. I'm really sad, I'm never gonna be able to play since it's not coming out =/
6 years later I'm still a bit obsessed with this game. I wonder if there cane be some kind for fan flash game on PS4's Dreams. I've already seen some pretty insane looking fan games already. Someone needs to to a Flash tribute game on Dreams.
I was just thinking...
"Run, Barry. Run."
1:54
If only Lego Batman 2 Flash gameplay was this fast.
Thats true