Fyodor Dostoyevsky’s _Notes From The Underground_ 0:50 Begin 2:07 😡 How Anger works. Why we feel angry 😡 4:05 Humiliation/Injustice --> Revenge or seeking vengeance or payback 6:38 Feeling justified in their revenge, _in kind_ , (Eye for an eye?) 9:53 Anger For The Intellectual 10:46 The Anger is the same, it’s the response by the Intellectual that is different. 11:43 _Immediate_ Revenge is not the path to justice for The Intellectual 13:43 Mired in doubt and hesitation--> More bullying, more anger 15:05 The Intellectual Mouse 🐭 🐁 17:28 Angry, but let it fall away 18:48 _Resontamont_ ( _Notice_ This Comment is not intended as a replacement from watching the whole video. They merely plot out where the lecture goes based on what I’ve heard)
Love these videos, Doc! Both Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche were on to something with their illumination and discussion of repressed anger. I would like to tie the insights of existentialists with those of ancient Greek mythology, where the Furies seem to symbolize something similar. I will need a lot more reading to parse how the various concepts can be linked, but hopefully can get the ball rolling this week. On a different note, will you be recording anything related to thumos? I've seen you will be presenting a paper this summer on thumos in Aristotle vs. Plato (if I remember correctly). Looking forward to reading your thoughts on that too.
Great video! I just finished this book. I read the entire thing in one sitting (which is very unusual for me). I have never been more disturbed by a character than I was by the underground man. I see so much of myself in him. I could easily see myself taking a similar path. Hopefully knowing that about myself will help me prevent it from actually happening. Anyway, I have also read Crime and Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov. Any suggestions for my next Dostoevsky novel?
Dostoyevsky is sucha straight thinker, it's just that thinking is such a chaotic thing. The best psychologist, a bit cynical perhaps, the best psychologist through insults, like a native Indian or something, fuck I love him.
Thanks Prof Sadler, great video as always, and I'm glad to have stumbled upon it in your back catalogue having recently read the book. Unfortunately i identify with the concept of begrudgement/building up of the swamp inside that Dostoevsky talks about, resulting from real and/or perceived slights and frustrations, mostly arising in the workplace in my case. Are you aware of any solutions, or can you provide any tips for books that i should read that might help with this? I'm afraid Dostoevsky is probably correct in his diagnosis, but does he or anyone else provide any good cure?
This might be the most *hard truth* that I will have to endure in my entire life. Regarding justice and and existential regret. Yet, there is something called stoicism. Perhaps there's a way...
I went from mouse, to rat, to cat, I find myself walking around late at night waiting for that moment to pound. The ones placing the cheese have no clue.
@@GregoryBSadler Yeah I won't, because thinking about it afterwards why even bother or spend time on people who aren't even smart enough to realize what they are doing is toxic to themselves as well to others. Thanks for the reply though :)
Some mice would turn into assassins, of the least spectacular sort. So much pain....innocent,ignorant health is better than this, but it is the ignorant and the innocent that can develop this habit. All of this smells of resentiment, and taking pleasure in it too. This person needs walk their way to health. There, you mentioned Nietzsche.
The point about being passive aggressive is on target. However, one wonders if the inability to act is nothing but a lack "old school" virtue. Nothing but cowardice.
This is one of those novels that just floats my boat. Good sailing. Thanks.
You're welcome!
Fyodor Dostoyevsky’s _Notes From The Underground_
0:50 Begin
2:07 😡 How Anger works. Why we feel angry 😡
4:05 Humiliation/Injustice --> Revenge or seeking vengeance or payback
6:38 Feeling justified in their revenge, _in kind_ , (Eye for an eye?)
9:53 Anger For The Intellectual
10:46 The Anger is the same, it’s the response by the Intellectual that is different.
11:43 _Immediate_ Revenge is not the path to justice for The Intellectual
13:43 Mired in doubt and hesitation--> More bullying, more anger
15:05 The Intellectual Mouse 🐭 🐁
17:28 Angry, but let it fall away
18:48 _Resontamont_
( _Notice_ This Comment is not intended as a replacement from watching the whole video. They merely plot out where the lecture goes based on what I’ve heard)
Love these videos, Doc! Both Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche were on to something with their illumination and discussion of repressed anger. I would like to tie the insights of existentialists with those of ancient Greek mythology, where the Furies seem to symbolize something similar. I will need a lot more reading to parse how the various concepts can be linked, but hopefully can get the ball rolling this week.
On a different note, will you be recording anything related to thumos? I've seen you will be presenting a paper this summer on thumos in Aristotle vs. Plato (if I remember correctly). Looking forward to reading your thoughts on that too.
I've recorded quite a bit about thumos over the years, in fact an entire lecture series about anger
Great video! I just finished this book. I read the entire thing in one sitting (which is very unusual for me). I have never been more disturbed by a character than I was by the underground man. I see so much of myself in him. I could easily see myself taking a similar path. Hopefully knowing that about myself will help me prevent it from actually happening. Anyway, I have also read Crime and Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov. Any suggestions for my next Dostoevsky novel?
The Demons/The Possessed
this is really insight full thank you for your work!
You're welcome!
Your content is great. Gives me a way to stay sharp in the gap between undergrad and grad school. Thanks so much prof.
You're welcome!
Dostoyevsky is sucha straight thinker, it's just that thinking is such a chaotic thing. The best psychologist, a bit cynical perhaps, the best psychologist through insults, like a native Indian or something, fuck I love him.
This is absolutely hilarious. Painfully accurate with the mouse analogy.
Yes, Dostoevsky is excellent at analogies for his characters
Well, this explains how Metal & Rock became such successful genres of music.
Not really
In the Brothers Karamazov, Garnett trans., p. 49, D says people who lie to themselves can be more easily offended than other people.
Quite true - now connect it to this text
Oh yes!!!!!!! This book has been on my wishlist for too long now. I really want it on hardback.
Well, I suspect that desire won't be too hard to fulfill
Love you sir. WoW
Thanks Prof Sadler, great video as always, and I'm glad to have stumbled upon it in your back catalogue having recently read the book.
Unfortunately i identify with the concept of begrudgement/building up of the swamp inside that Dostoevsky talks about, resulting from real and/or perceived slights and frustrations, mostly arising in the workplace in my case.
Are you aware of any solutions, or can you provide any tips for books that i should read that might help with this? I'm afraid Dostoevsky is probably correct in his diagnosis, but does he or anyone else provide any good cure?
Max Scheler has a pretty good book called Ressentiment.
@@GregoryBSadler Thanks a lot, i'll check it out.
Keep up the brilliant work.
Id love for you to take apart The Dream Of A Ridiculous Man. It's easily my favorite Dostoevsky story.
Perhaps down the line
Am I a trembling creature? Or have the right? Crime and Punishment
A succinct and didactic insight. Would you say that in ‘The Idiot’ he presents the opposite personality?
I would not, no. They certainly have a few opposed characteristics, but opposite? That's a really strong claim
Perhaps this is why the archetypal "super villain" usually is more interesting than the archetypal "super hero"?
Nah - both of those tend to be "people of action" in the sense discussed here
This might be the most *hard truth* that I will have to endure in my entire life. Regarding justice and and existential regret. Yet, there is something called stoicism. Perhaps there's a way...
Dude love your shit what you need to get better visuals and animation but I thank you for your content man it's amazing
I went from mouse, to rat, to cat, I find myself walking around late at night waiting for that moment to pound. The ones placing the cheese have no clue.
That's a rather sucky place to be. Hopefully, you won't be stuck there too long
@@GregoryBSadler Yeah I won't, because thinking about it afterwards why even bother or spend time on people who aren't even smart enough to realize what they are doing is toxic to themselves as well to others. Thanks for the reply though :)
Some mice would turn into assassins, of the least spectacular sort. So much pain....innocent,ignorant health is better than this, but it is the ignorant and the innocent that can develop this habit. All of this smells of resentiment, and taking pleasure in it too. This person needs walk their way to health. There, you mentioned Nietzsche.
Yes, I think in these days of easily accessible means of mass killings, its quite possible for the mice to turn assassin
The point about being passive aggressive is on target.
However, one wonders if the inability to act is nothing but a lack "old school" virtue. Nothing but cowardice.
I think that's part of the point of the book, right? That there's something going on that doesn't fit old school ethics
"impure motives"