I’ve been using a tripod screen for years but I finally got a grey screen and am just surfing TH-cam to see what others think so I can back out before it ships and I’m infinitely more excited now.
There really isn't a lot of material regarding grey, high contrast grey, and grey "Silver" screens that i could find, my only recommendation is the darker your screen the higher Lumen output projector you require. Also, regarding the washout from opening the doors in the back there are 2 issues, one is silver screens are better with light coming from angles not straight on (ambient light not projector) the projector needs to reflect towards the audience, and once again the brighter your projector the less washout you will have.
It is a 4 years old video, but I hope you still read the comments. Quck question. Do you notice a screen texture? I have got DIY grey screen, light controled room, which I built in 2008, now got a brighter projector, epson 3200 and I started noticing screen texture almost like you see the reflection of the material. I can manage to not notice it, but it is there. I was suggested to buy a newer screen and may be white instead of grey. But I do like contrast on the grey screen.
I currently have the white 110" Silver Ticket screen and an Epson 3700 projector. The colors are fantastic, better than a lot of direct-view TV's I've watched. It's really tempting to try the grey screen to see if the contrast/black level gets even better. I mainly watch animation, which these projectors are great for. Even in Eco mode, the colors really pop.
I have a silver-ticket Grey screen. I went the grey route because my projector is a panasonic vw430 4300 lumens super bright. So I knew the grey screen could handle the colors. Looks awesome love it.
Is your projector in a dedicated theater room, or do you have in a shared room with ambient lighting? I'm looking to put this in a dedicated room, but curious about whether the contrast boost will be as beneficial in a (near) bat cave, over my existing DIY white cloth screen.
@@lacrossewacker Its in my Man cave in the basement the light is controlled very well. I have a smart set up. I switch all my can lights to hue bulbs were I can control the lighting from my phone. I recently upgrading my projector to the 4k epson 4010. If your in a dark room I think you'll be fine with the white screen. Most newer projector black levels are really great. But it if the projector is older i would consider going grey. The new epson blew my Panasonic out the water lol.
@@deandredavies4557 Roger that. I have a LS12000, and I’ve been leaning more to the STR white now. Samples came in, it’s hard to overlook the vibrancy in color they can produce!
Black bars on any projector will never be black. You can use a $30,000 Sony projector you’ll still never get pure black. Oled produces pure Black by turning the pixels completely off, if the screen wasn’t black on an old panel and they turn the light off you would get whatever color the screen actually is. The only way to achieve 100% black is to have NO light. So even with a gray screen the darkest it could possibly be is the color of the screen this case is a dark gray which is much better than a white screen. A lot of people get confused and think the projector or any display produces black as well as other colors. black is not technically a color it’s the absence of all light. ALR screens do “help” do use your projector with some ambient light. The truth is the best lighting for any projector is zero light from all outside sources, Next the theater room should be painted as close to black if not black as possible. Go to any commercial theater, they have dark floors dark walls and a very dark ceiling. The only external light in a commercial theater is the “exit” sign & maybe some dim floor lights do u don’t trip getting a snack. Ideally you want a Dark floor, dark ceiling, dark walls, and 100% Control over all external and internal light (and if you have a wife that’s not an easy thing to do).
I have had a 92 inch Silver Ticket white screen for 7 years. It's been great. Today I just ordered a 100 inch gray. 100 is just about the max I can get out of my projector at 8.5 feet away (same distance as the couch). My room is light controlled but we usually have a dim light on.
Thanks man was looking at these screens and was sure I was gonna get the grey one. Not only did you help me finally decide you saved me a heart attack when I get a “white” screen delivered. Liked and subscribed.
Thank you! This is a great video and told me exactly what I need to know. I have a Sony 4K projector and want to move to a 2.35:1 125 inch grey screen. I have a 110 inch white 16:9 Silver ticket now. My issue is the the Sony isn't the brightest projector and I'm a bit concerned about a dark image. Based on what I see in your room it shouldn't be a problem. I watch primarily in a completely darkened room. Thanks again I appreciate the video.
Howdy, did you ever take the plunge and get yourself a grey screen? I too have a completely darkened room. I'm just curious if these Grey screens can still be as beneficial for dropping the 'black floor' in a completely dedicated theater room, not just those with ambient lighting to control.
Thank you for sharing your experience. This is exactly what I have been looking. People talking about it on the Internet but few people actually have first hand experience with both screen materials. I just ordered a ST grey, an upgrade from my Joann's blackout cloth DIY screen that I have used for years. My room is 90% light controlled the white DIY screen hasn't been a problem, not great but watchable during the day. I don't watch during the day anyway, only the kids and they never notice anything. As you pointed out in your video, I also notice the black bars turning grey during bright scene and have been wondering how the new grey screen would perform in that situation. You have now answered my question and I can't wait to check it out myself when I receive it in a few days. Cheers!
Awesome! Happy this helps. I’ve been really happy with it, and the price is a great point for the value compared to competitors on the market. I’ve fully recalibrated my projector and will be making a follow up video in the future. It’s a great product.
@@lacrossewackerit works well. I don’t have experience with a high-end screen so I can’t compare. But I found it easy to install and the colors were neutral to my eyes. The pictures look quite good even with good amount of ambient light (i.e. early evening with windows open). Overall I’m very happy with it.
Your inputs has help me with my decision about choosing between white screen or grey screen. I've decided I'm going with grey screen STR-169100-G. Thank you for this video! My projector is a cheap one by yababa or something I can't remember but it does has 1080p 60hz as native so it is good picture in my opinion because I have the projector centered on the wall so I would not need to make adjustments like zooming or stretching the picture as I understand it takes away the picture quality, right now my theater looks great even on a white wall with no projector screen but I got a feeling the grey screen is going to surprise me for sure, got my fingers cross! lol Again, thanks for this video, it helps a lot.
Thanks for the detailed video. You nailed it. I have home cinema 2150 with 2500 lumens and have a room with about 10% light during day time and dark at night. I have lite colored walls but iam going to paint them to medium gray. Do u think the 2500 lumens enough with the gray screen or should I consider white? I will need ur help to decide. Thx in advance.
Thank you for posting this video! I ordered a white screen, but haven’t opened it and I am thinking of returning it and getting the high contrast screen? This screen is a little bit darker than the gray; do you think that will produce an even more vibrant image with contrast?
I was about to pull the trigger On a grey screen , but i see they sell a sample kit of all the materials. Just ordered it. That way i can see EXACTLY what im dealing with between grey and darker:)
Thank you! I am building a home theater in a completely light-controlled room. Everyone online says go with the white screen, but when I look at the video comparisons, I always feel like the blacks appear gray. I have a discontinued Epson Home Cinema 3000 and have been considering a gray screen with higher gain since I want to maintain more brights. I literally TH-camd "grey projector screen high gain", and this video popped up. Helped me make a decision after an ungodly amount of deliberation. Thanks again.
I can back up everything you've said in my experience. I think there's always a compromise somewhere and at a point it is about taste. I prioritize contrast myself and grey is the way to go. All projectors look great when they are bright, but it's in darkness where the men separate from the boys, as they say. I'm toying with getting a secondary pull down of a high gain screen for 3D viewing. That'd be a new experiment.
Thanks for the comment. I’m testing a high gain screen now. 1.4 white. So far it’s super bright and I have to turn the lamp settings down, it’s a very good looking picture though.
I did the very same thing..I had a Da-Lite pull down 2.4 gain that got damaged when I tried to clean it. Extremely unfortunate, as they don't make this amazing screen anymore. But yes, a pull down high gain screen is a great idea for those time when you need a double gain punch!
Great review and very well described! you just helped me make up my mind buying my first screen. I have the epson 5050ub sitting in bod and debating whether to open it or return it and get the LG hu810p . I am in non-light controlled room , it's dark at night but the ceiling is white and small amount of light from the window, so I think grey is the way to go. Thanks again!
I do have ultra short px1 pro by hisense and idk wich better, white or grey silver. What do you think about? Great video by the way. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for the review. Have a silver ticket 2.35:1 screen white matte and its great but was always curious about the Grey. May switch out to Grey just to improve the blacks when light gets reflected back to the screen in bright scenes.
I have the white Screen 138" Curve Silver ticket and I was looking for the grey one This helped a lot helpful thank you very much I am definitely going to buy it I just need the screen I gotta hold a silver ticket No reply backI think I will have to buy the whole screen on Amazon againI really appreciate it thank you
I just came across your channel and have kid chaos going on around me. I notice your ceiling is very similar to mine, do you have any videos regarding speaker setup?
Thanks for the comparison. Some good nuggets in there. I do need to ask how far is your projector mounted from your screen? I ask because I currently have 125 inch screen and an Epson 5020 15 feet away. The picture looks great but of course if you zoom in the saturation in color and detail only get better the smaller the image becomes. I’m considering upgrading to 142 acoustically, transparent silver ticket option. Currently waiting on samples to help further that choice. But wanted to ask how far away your projector is from your screen? Because I have noticed zoom in my lens all the way out accommodate 142 inches but the image to grade a bit. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Thanks for the kind words. A smaller picture w zoom will always look better due to focused light in a small space. You may need to look for a screen with a lower gain.
In my opinion, the white screen is going to allow color pop, which is what most people see on their TV’s. Therefore it's probably a better fit, even in a completely dark room.
The silver ticket screen looks wide. Did u get it wide ? Or u just set it up as it was? Im looking to get a 4k projector on my project home theater i think 4meters gives u a 150" thats wer i want to be at for my screen.
great review. what projector were you using? and how far is your projector from your screen? I have the 6040ub and debating between the exact 2 screens materials you are reviewing.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 I wonder how many people called regarding the "color" of the grey screen because when I was looking at that model, the description actually said to hold a piece of white paper up to it to see the difference...lol
@@TJ-po9ol I’m debating this currently, going between the matte grey or HC. What color walls/ceiling did you have? I have the Sony 695es. I had a cinegrey 3d screen but saw some hot-spotting along with it being too reflective on very dark scenes. Went with the white silver ticket and while the colors looked great, the contrast was really poor due to my white ceiling.
I just got an ibeam x9000 which is 4000 lumens. I am back and forward between white and silver. I will have it in my game room that has one window that will either have a black out curtain or blinds. not sure which to choose....🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
This looks EXACTLY like my HT room. Are you in a Bloomfield "Magnolia II" model home, LOL? Also, thanks for this. Have you tested a silver screen as opposed to the grey? I'm interested in those as well. I have a sample pack on the way from Silver Ticket ...
Thanks man its great review,, you have clearly explained black levels n contrast ratio. But hw abt colors? Did u find any loss in color accuracy compared to white screen, thanks in advance ,, i have epson 4010 in dark room but have ambient light due to cream color walls and white ceiling, based on ur review want to go with grey screen
Hi, can I share this video on AVSForum? I want to start a thread about other people's experience going from White to Gray, or Gray to White, and then use your experience/testimony as reference. I'm personally curious about people's input since I'm in the process of updating my Epson 5030UB to a LS12000. I currently have a 126" DIY screen using screen material from Carl's place...
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Howdy again. So, you'd continue to recommend the Grey material Silver Ticket screen for a dedicated home theater? I see other people's biggest impression/benefit seems to come with the increase in contrast where there is ambient light, but I'm looking to increase contrast with my Epson LS12000 in a dedicated (dark!) home theater. Unfortunately it's nearly impossible to A & B these sorts of things when we're talking about ~130" screens!
@@lacrossewacker I just upgraded to an Epson LS11000, so near the ball park you're playing in lol. I went from a white Silver Ticket to the gray one at the same time. The contrast is perceivably better with the gray screen but my god Almighty there are some horizontal "lines" that appear dimmer that are driving me insane. I mean, in still shots you can't even see it but in crazy bright white scenes, and especially during vertical panning, it sticks out like a huge thumb in the middle righthand half of the screen. I don't know if it is a defect or what, but I did find a few other mentions of this phenomenon under all of the Amazon reviews. I just ordered an Elite Screens Cinegray 3D to try out as a replacement at this point which will hopefully be defect-free. Maybe I'm just too picky haha?
I have the LG hu810p laser projector and have tried several projector screen samples. Many of the samples have a slightly eggshell shine to them and it causes light speckle from the laser light source. What do you recommend? Something that is true matte or even slightly negative gain without spending a thousand or so? Thanks in advance for your time and help! 👌👍
Great question, so I’ve read a few things about laser projectors working better with lower gain screens, so you don’t have hot spots. With that being said, I’d think a matte screen with 1.0 gain would work well. But I have no way to test this theory. Give Silver Ticket Screen a call, and they have screen options not listed on their website. You’ll stay in the $500 to $800 price range.
Hey love the details you spoke about do you happen to know the major difference in Silver Ticket STR-169120-G vs STR-169120-S? I noticed the gain is different but definitely a jump in price. I love your screen because it’s such a light grey so would love some help I have a controlled room so not gonna worry about light issues. Thanks
@@hometheaterhobby9450 if I do have a controlled lighting and paint my room a dark grey should I choose the light grey material or go with white with silver Ticket?
Hey bud do you notice any washed out colors or issues with going with gray for silver ticket I’ll be controlling the light and painting the room dark grey just curious with you mentioning having used a white screen I was curious. Thanks man.
Hey! So there is a little wash out with grey, but it’s not enough for it to matter with Epson projectors. I honestly think most people would go with white because they are used to watching on modern TVs.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 yea my old screen was dark grey and it definitely seemed a bit dim but I’m using a epson 5030ub and I think upgrading to the screen your using would probably make me happy with how much lighter it is lol
This is the grey 1.0 gain screen. No sparkles since this isn’t a silver screen. They also make a High contrast silver that’s 1.5 gain, it’s known to have some sparkles but I haven’t seen one in person.
Thank you for review.. I have epson 3200 4K projector which color material you would recommend ? I’m trying to get silver ticket product but I don’t no which color I should go with ..!
Hi, and thanks for the comments! First, I'd consider contacting ST as they can send you samples to test with your projector. In my opinion, based on that projector, I'd consider their High Contrast Silver. It will give you some of the benefits of the grey material while stepping up your brightness. With that being said, I would call them, they are very responsive. Based on my conversation with them via email, they said most people go with their matte white screens.
Yes, but, I don't think the model projector you asked about is from their UB line or have the higher lumen rating, so a white screen should allow you to have a much brighter image which most consumers prefer.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 well I went with the gray and I'm second-guessing myself because the picture seems a little washed out to me. Don't see much difference then when I was projecting on my white wall. Maybe I just got to tweak the settings.
It’s their grey screen. In comparison with the white screen vs. grey one, I tried to make the point about how similar the screens are, and it took something like printer paper being placed close to each to see the difference.
Hi i have a gt1080e on a white pvc 120 inch screen but I am sitting 2 5 metres away. It quite hurts my eyes and I am not always impressed with the picture would it be better to go for a grey screen? Also my ceiling is white and room is light so i notice when the projector is on the whole room is lit up.
I'm wondering which screen to choose, I have a dark room, lights are fully controlled and I have epson 6050UB, I'm looking to have 113.5"/115" diagonal at 2:35:1 aspect ratio, I don't know what gain I should go with 2,500 lumens, which one of these is suitable 1. STR - 235115 SILVER 1.4 GAIN. 2. STR - 235115 1.1 GAIN 3. STR - 235115 GREY 1.0 GAIN 4. STR - 235115 HIGH CONTRAST 0.95
@@hometheaterhobby9450 thanks, in your case you are having the grey 1.0 gain paired with 6050UB right, have you adjusted the brightness & contrast level or the screen is a good match?
Their website shows multiple options. As an earlier post asked. "What specifically is your screen? Matte grey or high contrast grey or silver?" I think you're saying matte grey? Thx for the review. Plz confirm and thanks ahead
I am about to go from 16:9 high contrast 104" to a 2.35:1 128" screen. I was thinking of the white screen since I can control the light in my room. I am still not sure if I can go white or with a ALR screen since I get a lot of reflections from the screen.
I have lg hu80ka and my room is completely dark and my ceiling is white and my walls are orange so which screen should I get ? Please help.... and yes great video bro keep it going ❤️
Take a look at the high contrast silver, but note most projectors are factory calibrated for white screens, so you’d want make sure the gain is not going to cause any issues. Silver ticket has patches of their screen material they will send you. I am not as familiar with LG.
I haven’t tested elite screens products, it’s possible the gain on your screen is different than Silver Ticket screens. Also, you should recalibrate your projector when you install a new screen. Are your settings the same? What’s the Elite Screens gain?
Home Theater Hobby sir gain is 1.0 and I tried so many picture settings but the picture looks really dull and when I tried on my white ceiling it was very clear I’m confused now and can u check the projector lg hu80ka
@@noumanjamshaidali4078 I took a look at your projector model in hopes of helping you. Before we get into that, I'd like to point out that you are using a screen I've never seen in person; not the one I recommended. Since screen manufacturers' technology varies, you should consider those variables when reading the next few comments. The LG HU80KA has the following ANSI Lumens ratings: Vivid 865 max; Standard 851 max; Cinema 515 max; Sports 864 maz; Game 839 max; and TechExpert 510 max. This means your projector brightness is lower than competitors' projectors, say, 1200 lumens like other brands. I'm not sure if that's because it's a laser projector or not. I don't know much about those models. The next thing coming to mind is the brightness output can be reduced by 04% with your projector. The cause is the mirror light; however, it's specs show a brightness uniformity at 87%, which is good. Lastly, any grey screen can reduce brightness because it's not pushing light back toward the viewer as a white matte screen does. Based on what you are saying, the low lumens might be your concern. Not knowing your projector's internal settings, I don't know what manual adjustment may be needed. You might need a manual adjustment outside a mode change like vivid, standard, or other. I haven't looked at any Elite Screen reviews on youtube, so I don't know what adjustments others have made in your situation. I hope this helps.
Fantastic video! It’s been so hard to find a proper review to make a firm decision. Your video made my decision to go ST Gray much easier. Before I pull the trigger, I just bought an Epson LS300 UST 3600 lumens in a fully light controlled room. Would you say the gray screen would work with a little light on, being that the UST is very bright? TIA!
Thanks so much. Regarding the lights, keep them off the whole time for the best results. Although we do turn ours down sometimes, the best results are when the lights are off. I hope this helps.
@@bigisland3169 fantastic actually! I’d highly recommend it. However, I had to return the ls300 and get a 5050ub because the throw was off with the ust. Screen size would’ve maxed at 95” and I wanted 120” or more.
I don’t have a screen yet but I do have a Hisense ust and I’ve gotten a few compliments from people saying it looks great and I need to hurry up and get a screen 😅
@@hometheaterhobby9450 well I took your advice I took a picture but it's a looks great I had the door open and I have my flash on then I took another one with the flash off it does look great but I got in touch and looked at my receipt Matt White
anybody know how the grey screen will work with a Anker Cosmos Nebula 4k with 1500 ANSI lumens? I bought the projector when I didn;t know too much about projectors and am now realizing that it isn't the brightest projector. I have nothing to comapare it to though. Most of the time it seems bright enough for me. The only issues are that the blacks always seem washed out and watching any kind of show that takes place in darkness is a struggle.
I'm using 120 inch deluxe screens that I bought off of Amazon for 300 and I think it's amazing I don't even use a TV anymore LOL an ambient light hasn't been a huge problem
Good view on the Grey screen. I am looking at a Viewsonic X100-4K+ which is an LED based projector due to the throw ratio and my wife seeing the rainbow effect. My concern is the projector only has 2900 lumens (1200 Ansi Lumens). What is your advice? Would a 1.2 Gain grey screen give a brirht enough picture?
Great video man! I am having trouble getting my black levels good. I know I have an old epson 8350 but I don't want to upgrade yet cause I don't have many hours on bulb. So I was thinking of getting a grey screen but I use pull down screen and they don't make a grey pull down screen so I'm pretty much out of luck
Thanks! I’d check their website, I’m not sure but I think Silver Ticket made their grey screen as a pull down at one time. Here’s a link, but it’s sold out. You might give them a call. www.silverticketproducts.com/products/sie-16992-g?variant=31640102010960
@@discostew9220 Yea i follow him. He does some great work with the paints. But I have a manual screen and he said that when you paint a manual screen the the edges curl. If I can stop that from happening I would definitely get the paint. But thanks for looking out man. I really appreciate it.
lol.... No way to show someone the difference without a super high-end camera, so we use words to describe the difference. We are a hobby page, not Youthman or SpareChange....😂🤣😂🤣
I’ve been using a tripod screen for years but I finally got a grey screen and am just surfing TH-cam to see what others think so I can back out before it ships and I’m infinitely more excited now.
Awesome! I'm happy you found the information helpful!
Thank you so much for this review! You’re right that it’s tough to find info on gray screens
Thank you!
I ❤️the ceiling above your screen. It draws you in to the screen 👍. Lots of great info thx 4 sharing
Thank you!
There really isn't a lot of material regarding grey, high contrast grey, and grey "Silver" screens that i could find, my only recommendation is the darker your screen the higher Lumen output projector you require. Also, regarding the washout from opening the doors in the back there are 2 issues, one is silver screens are better with light coming from angles not straight on (ambient light not projector) the projector needs to reflect towards the audience, and once again the brighter your projector the less washout you will have.
Yup. I like this comparison. I am in the market right now.
Thank you! Very good points and eye opening. I'm getting my first projector soon and you've convinced me to pair it with this screen.
Thanks for the kind words. Very cool!
It is a 4 years old video, but I hope you still read the comments. Quck question. Do you notice a screen texture? I have got DIY grey screen, light controled room, which I built in 2008, now got a brighter projector, epson 3200 and I started noticing screen texture almost like you see the reflection of the material. I can manage to not notice it, but it is there. I was suggested to buy a newer screen and may be white instead of grey. But I do like contrast on the grey screen.
I currently have the white 110" Silver Ticket screen and an Epson 3700 projector. The colors are fantastic, better than a lot of direct-view TV's I've watched. It's really tempting to try the grey screen to see if the contrast/black level gets even better. I mainly watch animation, which these projectors are great for. Even in Eco mode, the colors really pop.
I have a silver-ticket Grey screen. I went the grey route because my projector is a panasonic vw430 4300 lumens super bright. So I knew the grey screen could handle the colors. Looks awesome love it.
Is your projector in a dedicated theater room, or do you have in a shared room with ambient lighting? I'm looking to put this in a dedicated room, but curious about whether the contrast boost will be as beneficial in a (near) bat cave, over my existing DIY white cloth screen.
@@lacrossewacker Its in my Man cave in the basement the light is controlled very well. I have a smart set up. I switch all my can lights to hue bulbs were I can control the lighting from my phone. I recently upgrading my projector to the 4k epson 4010. If your in a dark room I think you'll be fine with the white screen. Most newer projector black levels are really great. But it if the projector is older i would consider going grey. The new epson blew my Panasonic out the water lol.
@@deandredavies4557 Roger that. I have a LS12000, and I’ve been leaning more to the STR white now. Samples came in, it’s hard to overlook the vibrancy in color they can produce!
Black bars on any projector will never be black. You can use a $30,000 Sony projector you’ll still never get pure black. Oled produces pure Black by turning the pixels completely off, if the screen wasn’t black on an old panel and they turn the light off you would get whatever color the screen actually is. The only way to achieve 100% black is to have NO light. So even with a gray screen the darkest it could possibly be is the color of the screen this case is a dark gray which is much better than a white screen. A lot of people get confused and think the projector or any display produces black as well as other colors. black is not technically a color it’s the absence of all light. ALR screens do “help” do use your projector with some ambient light. The truth is the best lighting for any projector is zero light from all outside sources, Next the theater room should be painted as close to black if not black as possible. Go to any commercial theater, they have dark floors dark walls and a very dark ceiling. The only external light in a commercial theater is the “exit” sign & maybe some dim floor lights do u don’t trip getting a snack. Ideally you want a Dark floor, dark ceiling, dark walls, and 100% Control over all external and internal light (and if you have a wife that’s not an easy thing to do).
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so even u use a grey screen?
I have had a 92 inch Silver Ticket white screen for 7 years. It's been great. Today I just ordered a 100 inch gray. 100 is just about the max I can get out of my projector at 8.5 feet away (same distance as the couch). My room is light controlled but we usually have a dim light on.
Thank you for this! Very informative and helpful. Great job 👏👏
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks man was looking at these screens and was sure I was gonna get the grey one. Not only did you help me finally decide you saved me a heart attack when I get a “white” screen delivered. Liked and subscribed.
Thanks for your comment! Happy this helps!
Great review which is needed for the community! Good to hear your perspective and hands on experience.
Thanks!
Thank you! This is a great video and told me exactly what I need to know. I have a Sony 4K projector and want to move to a 2.35:1 125 inch grey screen. I have a 110 inch white 16:9 Silver ticket now. My issue is the the Sony isn't the brightest projector and I'm a bit concerned about a dark image. Based on what I see in your room it shouldn't be a problem. I watch primarily in a completely darkened room. Thanks again I appreciate the video.
Thanks, happy this helps!
Howdy, did you ever take the plunge and get yourself a grey screen? I too have a completely darkened room. I'm just curious if these Grey screens can still be as beneficial for dropping the 'black floor' in a completely dedicated theater room, not just those with ambient lighting to control.
Thank you for sharing your experience. This is exactly what I have been looking. People talking about it on the Internet but few people actually have first hand experience with both screen materials. I just ordered a ST grey, an upgrade from my Joann's blackout cloth DIY screen that I have used for years. My room is 90% light controlled the white DIY screen hasn't been a problem, not great but watchable during the day. I don't watch during the day anyway, only the kids and they never notice anything. As you pointed out in your video, I also notice the black bars turning grey during bright scene and have been wondering how the new grey screen would perform in that situation. You have now answered my question and I can't wait to check it out myself when I receive it in a few days. Cheers!
Awesome! Happy this helps. I’ve been really happy with it, and the price is a great point for the value compared to competitors on the market. I’ve fully recalibrated my projector and will be making a follow up video in the future. It’s a great product.
Checking in on your experience with the new screen. Are you satisfied, in your experience?
@@lacrossewackerit works well. I don’t have experience with a high-end screen so I can’t compare. But I found it easy to install and the colors were neutral to my eyes. The pictures look quite good even with good amount of ambient light (i.e. early evening with windows open). Overall I’m very happy with it.
Your inputs has help me with my decision about choosing between white screen or grey screen. I've decided I'm going with grey screen STR-169100-G. Thank you for this video! My projector is a cheap one by yababa or something I can't remember but it does has 1080p 60hz as native so it is good picture in my opinion because I have the projector centered on the wall so I would not need to make adjustments like zooming or stretching the picture as I understand it takes away the picture quality, right now my theater looks great even on a white wall with no projector screen but I got a feeling the grey screen is going to surprise me for sure, got my fingers cross! lol Again, thanks for this video, it helps a lot.
Thanks for the kind words
Thank you for this!!!! I’m between these (2) choices right now!
Thanks for the detailed video. You nailed it. I have home cinema 2150 with 2500 lumens and have a room with about 10% light during day time and dark at night. I have lite colored walls but iam going to paint them to medium gray. Do u think the 2500 lumens enough with the gray screen or should I consider white? I will need ur help to decide. Thx in advance.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for posting this video! I ordered a white screen, but haven’t opened it and I am thinking of returning it and getting the high contrast screen? This screen is a little bit darker than the gray; do you think that will produce an even more vibrant image with contrast?
It depends. Projector placement will have a lot to do with that, too.
I was about to pull the trigger On a grey screen , but i see they sell a sample kit of all the materials. Just ordered it. That way i can see EXACTLY what im dealing with between grey and darker:)
Thank you! I am building a home theater in a completely light-controlled room. Everyone online says go with the white screen, but when I look at the video comparisons, I always feel like the blacks appear gray. I have a discontinued Epson Home Cinema 3000 and have been considering a gray screen with higher gain since I want to maintain more brights. I literally TH-camd "grey projector screen high gain", and this video popped up. Helped me make a decision after an ungodly amount of deliberation. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing!
Very detailed oriented person you are. Got answers from you my boi! Maybe you’re meant to make videos and help others
I appreciate that!
I can back up everything you've said in my experience. I think there's always a compromise somewhere and at a point it is about taste. I prioritize contrast myself and grey is the way to go. All projectors look great when they are bright, but it's in darkness where the men separate from the boys, as they say. I'm toying with getting a secondary pull down of a high gain screen for 3D viewing. That'd be a new experiment.
Thanks for the comment. I’m testing a high gain screen now. 1.4 white. So far it’s super bright and I have to turn the lamp settings down, it’s a very good looking picture though.
I did the very same thing..I had a Da-Lite pull down 2.4 gain that got damaged when I tried to clean it. Extremely unfortunate, as they don't make this amazing screen anymore. But yes, a pull down high gain screen is a great idea for those time when you need a double gain punch!
Awesome video with really helpful information. Thank you!
Happy to help!
Great review and very well described!
you just helped me make up my mind buying my first screen. I have the epson 5050ub sitting in bod and debating whether to open it or return it and get the LG hu810p .
I am in non-light controlled room , it's dark at night but the ceiling is white and small amount of light from the window, so I think grey is the way to go.
Thanks again!
Awesome! Happy you found the video helpful.
Can I ask why do you want to replace the 5050ub?
I do have ultra short px1 pro by hisense and idk wich better, white or grey silver. What do you think about? Great video by the way. Thank you for sharing.
I think with reasonable light control, most people would like the white screen.
Thanks for the review. Have a silver ticket 2.35:1 screen white matte and its great but was always curious about the Grey. May switch out to Grey just to improve the blacks when light gets reflected back to the screen in bright scenes.
What projector do you use?
Home Theater Hobby the 5040 just came in today. I’ve been using the 4000 for 2 years but am thinking I gotta have those better black levels
You will love the 5040, it’s a great projector!
Did you ever get around to trying out a Grey screen, or are you still working the White Matte?
Very helpful video, thanks!
I have the white Screen 138" Curve Silver ticket and I was looking for the grey one This helped a lot helpful thank you very much I am definitely going to buy it I just need the screen I gotta hold a silver ticket No reply backI think I will have to buy the whole screen on Amazon againI really appreciate it thank you
I just came across your channel and have kid chaos going on around me. I notice your ceiling is very similar to mine, do you have any videos regarding speaker setup?
Not yet, but I do intend to return to posting in the future.
thanks, great video
Thanks for the kind words.
Hi based on my projector BenQ HT-3550 (2000 Lumens) which screen would you choose?..... Projector is about 7 1/2 feet from screen, dark room.
Nice! Just the information I was looking for.
Thanks for the comparison. Some good nuggets in there. I do need to ask how far is your projector mounted from your screen? I ask because I currently have 125 inch screen and an Epson 5020 15 feet away. The picture looks great but of course if you zoom in the saturation in color and detail only get better the smaller the image becomes. I’m considering upgrading to 142 acoustically, transparent silver ticket option. Currently waiting on samples to help further that choice. But wanted to ask how far away your projector is from your screen? Because I have noticed zoom in my lens all the way out accommodate 142 inches but the image to grade a bit. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Thanks for the kind words. A smaller picture w zoom will always look better due to focused light in a small space. You may need to look for a screen with a lower gain.
Question; was the grey screen you talked about in the video the regular “Grey Material” or one of the other high contrast screens? Thanks!
It's the regular grey.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Excellent! Thanks again!
My protector is an Aaxa 4K protector, only 1500 lumens. Would you recommend the grey or white in a complete blackout room?
1.4 gain white screen.
Excellent testimonial, cutting through the crap:)
Glad you liked it!
thank you needed this bad
Happy it helps.
Great in depth review. Just picked up a jvc nx5 and I think grey will pair well after your review. ⚡⚡
Awesome! Happy to hear this helps!!
Appreciate your detailed information. Which would you recommend in a completely dark room?
In my opinion, the white screen is going to allow color pop, which is what most people see on their TV’s. Therefore it's probably a better fit, even in a completely dark room.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Thank you kindly!! Thanks again for sharing your video. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much for this video
Do you have any video of how it performs and how much
The silver ticket screen looks wide. Did u get it wide ? Or u just set it up as it was? Im looking to get a 4k projector on my project home theater i think 4meters gives u a 150" thats wer i want to be at for my screen.
The screen is 120.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 is it cinescope? Or just a regular 120 inch screen
Really helpful thanks! \m/.
Wonder if a silver or High Contrast screen would be any better or too dark?
I think it's possible that it would lighten things up. I'm not sure.
great review. what projector were you using? and how far is your projector from your screen? I have the 6040ub and debating between the exact 2 screens materials you are reviewing.
At the time I had the 5040UB, we recently updated to the 6050UB. Thanks for watching and the kind words!
@@hometheaterhobby9450 That makes me feel even better about my projector and screen purchase. My screen will be here Friday.
Good deal! Let me know if I can help with anything, love this hobby.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 I wonder how many people called regarding the "color" of the grey screen because when I was looking at that model, the description actually said to hold a piece of white paper up to it to see the difference...lol
Try the high contrast one they have. It is way better, I've had both.
Why are you currently using?
@@hometheaterhobby9450 I had a Sony native 4k projector with a thin bezel 135” silver ticket, it was great. Moved and just using my OLED right now
@@TJ-po9ol I’m debating this currently, going between the matte grey or HC.
What color walls/ceiling did you have?
I have the Sony 695es. I had a cinegrey 3d screen but saw some hot-spotting along with it being too reflective on very dark scenes. Went with the white silver ticket and while the colors looked great, the contrast was really poor due to my white ceiling.
I just got an ibeam x9000 which is 4000 lumens. I am back and forward between white and silver. I will have it in my game room that has one window that will either have a black out curtain or blinds. not sure which to choose....🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Based on your lumens, go with the white screen.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 thank you!!! I had the silver screen in my cart. I'm new to this whole game. Your video was on point also. Thanks!!!
@@hometheaterhobby9450 would it be a smart idea to add those LEDs light behind it or nah.....
This looks EXACTLY like my HT room. Are you in a Bloomfield "Magnolia II" model home, LOL? Also, thanks for this. Have you tested a silver screen as opposed to the grey? I'm interested in those as well. I have a sample pack on the way from Silver Ticket ...
How about viewing angle on the grey screen?
Great video. Is this the matte grey screen, or the high contrast grey screen? Doing a new theatre build and trying to make sure I select the right one
It looks like it's matte grey, which Silver Ticket describes on their website as being "almost white."
Best rev
what size is that room ? Looking at these silver ticket screens myself.
Thanks man its great review,, you have clearly explained black levels n contrast ratio. But hw abt colors? Did u find any loss in color accuracy compared to white screen, thanks in advance ,, i have epson 4010 in dark room but have ambient light due to cream color walls and white ceiling, based on ur review want to go with grey screen
i think this would not work if u have ambient light as he says in 7:10
That’s correct and my recommendation.
Hi, can I share this video on AVSForum? I want to start a thread about other people's experience going from White to Gray, or Gray to White, and then use your experience/testimony as reference. I'm personally curious about people's input since I'm in the process of updating my Epson 5030UB to a LS12000. I currently have a 126" DIY screen using screen material from Carl's place...
Sure, happy it's helpful. I'll respond to your question when I get some time.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Howdy again. So, you'd continue to recommend the Grey material Silver Ticket screen for a dedicated home theater? I see other people's biggest impression/benefit seems to come with the increase in contrast where there is ambient light, but I'm looking to increase contrast with my Epson LS12000 in a dedicated (dark!) home theater. Unfortunately it's nearly impossible to A & B these sorts of things when we're talking about ~130" screens!
@@lacrossewacker I just upgraded to an Epson LS11000, so near the ball park you're playing in lol. I went from a white Silver Ticket to the gray one at the same time. The contrast is perceivably better with the gray screen but my god Almighty there are some horizontal "lines" that appear dimmer that are driving me insane. I mean, in still shots you can't even see it but in crazy bright white scenes, and especially during vertical panning, it sticks out like a huge thumb in the middle righthand half of the screen. I don't know if it is a defect or what, but I did find a few other mentions of this phenomenon under all of the Amazon reviews. I just ordered an Elite Screens Cinegray 3D to try out as a replacement at this point which will hopefully be defect-free. Maybe I'm just too picky haha?
What about showing the screen??
I have the LG hu810p laser projector and have tried several projector screen samples. Many of the samples have a slightly eggshell shine to them and it causes light speckle from the laser light source.
What do you recommend?
Something that is true matte or even slightly negative gain without spending a thousand or so?
Thanks in advance for your time and help! 👌👍
Great question, so I’ve read a few things about laser projectors working better with lower gain screens, so you don’t have hot spots. With that being said, I’d think a matte screen with 1.0 gain would work well. But I have no way to test this theory. Give Silver Ticket Screen a call, and they have screen options not listed on their website. You’ll stay in the $500 to $800 price range.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Thank you sir! 👍👌
Hey love the details you spoke about do you happen to know the major difference in Silver Ticket STR-169120-G vs STR-169120-S? I noticed the gain is different but definitely a jump in price. I love your screen because it’s such a light grey so would love some help I have a controlled room so not gonna worry about light issues. Thanks
Hi! I believe it provides a brighter picture, but I don’t have any experience with their silver product.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 if I do have a controlled lighting and paint my room a dark grey should I choose the light grey material or go with white with silver Ticket?
Hey bud do you notice any washed out colors or issues with going with gray for silver ticket I’ll be controlling the light and painting the room dark grey just curious with you mentioning having used a white screen I was curious. Thanks man.
Hey! So there is a little wash out with grey, but it’s not enough for it to matter with Epson projectors. I honestly think most people would go with white because they are used to watching on modern TVs.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 yea my old screen was dark grey and it definitely seemed a bit dim but I’m using a epson 5030ub and I think upgrading to the screen your using would probably make me happy with how much lighter it is lol
Any sparkles due to the material? Also what about off axis viewing?
Also you say it is not as bright? I thought this was a 1.5 gain
This is the grey 1.0 gain screen. No sparkles since this isn’t a silver screen. They also make a High contrast silver that’s 1.5 gain, it’s known to have some sparkles but I haven’t seen one in person.
There is no resolution lost at any angle. Off Axis viewing isn’t a problem, uniformity seems constant regardless of seating position.
LCD projecter 8000 lumens what is the best material for this type of lumens
That’s super bright, if truly 8000 lumens. I’d consider a .7 gain screen.
What is more brightness, the white or grey? thank you.
The white. The grey one is not as bright but has better contrast.
Thank you for review..
I have epson 3200 4K projector which color material you would recommend ? I’m trying to get silver ticket product but I don’t no which color I should go with ..!
Hi, and thanks for the comments! First, I'd consider contacting ST as they can send you samples to test with your projector. In my opinion, based on that projector, I'd consider their High Contrast Silver. It will give you some of the benefits of the grey material while stepping up your brightness. With that being said, I would call them, they are very responsive. Based on my conversation with them via email, they said most people go with their matte white screens.
Just picked up the Epson 4010. Do you think I should go with the white or the gray screen. I'm going to be in a dark room with no light.
I’d go with the white screen since you will be in a light-controlled environment with the Epson 4010.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 I thought you said in your video even in a dark room the grey screen is better with the Epson.
Yes, but, I don't think the model projector you asked about is from their UB line or have the higher lumen rating, so a white screen should allow you to have a much brighter image which most consumers prefer.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 well I went with the gray and I'm second-guessing myself because the picture seems a little washed out to me. Don't see much difference then when I was projecting on my white wall. Maybe I just got to tweak the settings.
Why di i not find this video, BEFORE the 200 others!! this confirm everything i was thinking but could not confirm.
what gain did you go for?
It’s 1.0 I believe.
He is handsome for sure
thank you..but my concern is it does not resist ambient light :( which is in my house ... i see u have controlled light env.
That’s a valid concern.
I'm not sure I understand. Are you sure they didn't just send a white screen by mistake? Is it definitely one of thier grey models?
It’s their grey screen. In comparison with the white screen vs. grey one, I tried to make the point about how similar the screens are, and it took something like printer paper being placed close to each to see the difference.
Hi i have a gt1080e on a white pvc 120 inch screen but I am sitting 2
5 metres away. It quite hurts my eyes and I am not always impressed with the picture would it be better to go for a grey screen? Also my ceiling is white and room is light so i notice when the projector is on the whole room is lit up.
I think painting the walls and ceiling a dark flat color would make all the difference.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 unfortunately I am renting so I dont have that opportunity. Unless I repaint the flat when I leave.
which projector are you using?
At the time the 4050UB, Iv recently updated to the 6050UB and will be making some new videos in the future.
I'm wondering which screen to choose, I have a dark room, lights are fully controlled and I have epson 6050UB, I'm looking to have 113.5"/115" diagonal at 2:35:1 aspect ratio, I don't know what gain I should go with 2,500 lumens, which one of these is suitable
1. STR - 235115 SILVER 1.4 GAIN.
2. STR - 235115 1.1 GAIN
3. STR - 235115 GREY 1.0 GAIN
4. STR - 235115 HIGH CONTRAST 0.95
That's a good question, and I think 4 would be a great choice.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 thanks, in your case you are having the grey 1.0 gain paired with 6050UB right, have you adjusted the brightness & contrast level or the screen is a good match?
Their website shows multiple options. As an earlier post asked. "What specifically is your screen? Matte grey or high contrast grey or silver?" I think you're saying matte grey? Thx for the review. Plz confirm and thanks ahead
This one is Matte Grey.
I am about to go from 16:9 high contrast 104" to a 2.35:1 128" screen. I was thinking of the white screen since I can control the light in my room. I am still not sure if I can go white or with a ALR screen since I get a lot of reflections from the screen.
If you already see a lot of reflections; I’d try a ALR.
I have lg hu80ka and my room is completely dark and my ceiling is white and my walls are orange so which screen should I get ? Please help.... and yes great video bro keep it going ❤️
Take a look at the high contrast silver, but note most projectors are factory calibrated for white screens, so you’d want make sure the gain is not going to cause any issues. Silver ticket has patches of their screen material they will send you. I am not as familiar with LG.
Home Theater Hobby I’m confused I ordered elite screen cinegrey and picture is showing really dim
I haven’t tested elite screens products, it’s possible the gain on your screen is different than Silver Ticket screens. Also, you should recalibrate your projector when you install a new screen. Are your settings the same? What’s the Elite Screens gain?
Home Theater Hobby sir gain is 1.0 and I tried so many picture settings but the picture looks really dull and when I tried on my white ceiling it was very clear I’m confused now and can u check the projector lg hu80ka
@@noumanjamshaidali4078 I took a look at your projector model in hopes of helping you. Before we get into that, I'd like to point out that you are using a screen I've never seen in person; not the one I recommended. Since screen manufacturers' technology varies, you should consider those variables when reading the next few comments. The LG HU80KA has the following ANSI Lumens ratings: Vivid 865 max; Standard 851 max; Cinema 515 max; Sports 864 maz; Game 839 max; and TechExpert 510 max. This means your projector brightness is lower than competitors' projectors, say, 1200 lumens like other brands. I'm not sure if that's because it's a laser projector or not. I don't know much about those models. The next thing coming to mind is the brightness output can be reduced by 04% with your projector. The cause is the mirror light; however, it's specs show a brightness uniformity at 87%, which is good. Lastly, any grey screen can reduce brightness because it's not pushing light back toward the viewer as a white matte screen does. Based on what you are saying, the low lumens might be your concern. Not knowing your projector's internal settings, I don't know what manual adjustment may be needed. You might need a manual adjustment outside a mode change like vivid, standard, or other. I haven't looked at any Elite Screen reviews on youtube, so I don't know what adjustments others have made in your situation. I hope this helps.
Hi, Is this their ALR screen or just gray?
Just grey
Fantastic video! It’s been so hard to find a proper review to make a firm decision. Your video made my decision to go ST Gray much easier. Before I pull the trigger, I just bought an Epson LS300 UST 3600 lumens in a fully light controlled room. Would you say the gray screen would work with a little light on, being that the UST is very bright? TIA!
Thanks so much. Regarding the lights, keep them off the whole time for the best results. Although we do turn ours down sometimes, the best results are when the lights are off. I hope this helps.
@@bigisland3169 fantastic actually! I’d highly recommend it. However, I had to return the ls300 and get a 5050ub because the throw was off with the ust. Screen size would’ve maxed at 95” and I wanted 120” or more.
@@bigisland3169 that’s awesome. I hear a lot of good things with the vava. Enjoy it! Cheers mate!
How far is your seating distance, eyes to the screen?
I'm about 10 feet back on the first roll.
Ho would this projector screen look with a vava projector?
I’m not sure, and I don’t know the specs. Could you provide some details?
What was the brightness on the epson in terms luminens
It's 2800
Thank you! Does anyone have experience with this screen and an ultra short throw laser? Maybe I can be a guinea pig
That's a great question. I'm not a fan of ultra-short throw projectors. But I'm interested.
I don’t have a screen yet but I do have a Hisense ust and I’ve gotten a few compliments from people saying it looks great and I need to hurry up and get a screen 😅
I have a couple questions for you I really appreciate it if you would think you have a blessed day
Sure, how can I help?
@@hometheaterhobby9450 well I took your advice I took a picture but it's a looks great I had the door open and I have my flash on then I took another one with the flash off it does look great but I got in touch and looked at my receipt Matt White
@@hometheaterhobby9450 I just really don't understand silver ticket that I can get one and it's going to be a lot cheaper to replace the screen itself
anybody know how the grey screen will work with a Anker Cosmos Nebula 4k with 1500 ANSI lumens? I bought the projector when I didn;t know too much about projectors and am now realizing that it isn't the brightest projector. I have nothing to comapare it to though. Most of the time it seems bright enough for me. The only issues are that the blacks always seem washed out and watching any kind of show that takes place in darkness is a struggle.
I bought the capsule at 300 lumens🤣 Really wish I had returned it during the grace period.
My gray screen is more of a gunmetal and I haven't noticed any difference maybe slightly but not much different than the white screen I started with
What brand screen do you use? Any recommendations?
I'm using 120 inch deluxe screens that I bought off of Amazon for 300 and I think it's amazing I don't even use a TV anymore LOL an ambient light hasn't been a huge problem
IRISH Droid I’ll check them out, thanks!
Good view on the Grey screen. I am looking at a Viewsonic X100-4K+ which is an LED based projector due to the throw ratio and my wife seeing the rainbow effect. My concern is the projector only has 2900 lumens (1200 Ansi Lumens). What is your advice? Would a 1.2 Gain grey screen give a brirht enough picture?
If you can control lighting, go with a 1.2 white screen. The majority of viewers will prefer this to a grey screen.
How would this look outside?
At night you’ll be fine... not in daylight though.
Masking + white screen = win. But masking is a lost art. You either DIY or pay out the nose.
Great video man! I am having trouble getting my black levels good. I know I have an old epson 8350 but I don't want to upgrade yet cause I don't have many hours on bulb. So I was thinking of getting a grey screen but I use pull down screen and they don't make a grey pull down screen so I'm pretty much out of luck
Thanks! I’d check their website, I’m not sure but I think Silver Ticket made their grey screen as a pull down at one time. Here’s a link, but it’s sold out. You might give them a call.
www.silverticketproducts.com/products/sie-16992-g?variant=31640102010960
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Thank you!
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@@discostew9220 Yea i follow him. He does some great work with the paints. But I have a manual screen and he said that when you paint a manual screen the the edges curl. If I can stop that from happening I would definitely get the paint. But thanks for looking out man. I really appreciate it.
120inn OLED TRUE BLACK 8K
OMG.....stop talking and just show us the difference !
lol.... No way to show someone the difference without a super high-end camera, so we use words to describe the difference. We are a hobby page, not Youthman or SpareChange....😂🤣😂🤣
What projector are you using with this screen?
Epson 6050UB