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- Journalist and Salon.com founder David Talbot interviewed by Readara.com on his book The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government (published by Harper Perennial)
Allen Welch Dulles, the distinguished Wall Street lawyer and son of a prominent family, rose to the helm of the Central Intelligence Agency at a very young age.
With the help of John Foster Dulles, Secretary of State and Allen Dulles’ brother, the longest-serving chief of the CIA molded the secretive organization in a way that often led to secret wars, overthrowing of foreign governments and occasional spying on its own people, all with the support of the U.S. Congress and mostly behind the backs of three presidents.
David Talbot, nonfiction book author and founder of the San Francisco-based web magazine Salon, combs through various government archives and draws from numerous first-hand interviews and sources to build a vivid portrayal of Dulles and the CIA under his leadership.
AUTHOR BIOGRAPHY: David Talbot is the author of the New York Times bestseller Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years and the acclaimed national bestseller Season of the Witch: Enchantment, Terror, and Deliverance in the City of Love. He is the founder and former editor in chief of Salon, and was a senior editor at Mother Jones and the features editor at the San Francisco Examiner. He has written for The New Yorker, Rolling Stone, Time, The Guardian, and other major publications. Talbot lives in San Francisco, California.
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Never announce you are going to destroy evil. Just set about doing it
That kind of makes sense. But, then, you're talking about clandestine vigilanteism, perhaps. If we're talking about evil institutions, however. Then, vigilanteism doesn't make so much sense. In terms of transforming institutions, we're talking about also transforming a corporate culture or an institutional culture or a government culture.
For example, if the head of the CIA is replaced, or a more recent example, if the head of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), Anthony Fauci, is removed from power, the culture, which elevated him will simply elevate a replacement into that position of power. And evil covert actions, like coups d’état or gain of function bioweapons research will continue.
It seems what has to happen is collective struggle has to speak out and expose corruption and persuade a growing number of people about the evils being committed as well as the need for transformative change. (cf. speaking out to break the trance or hypnosis of mass formation, The Psychology of Totalitarianism by Prof. Mattias Desmet)
Then, perhaps, there might be a sea change. And, then, removing villains from positions of power will be effective because, if there has been a cultural shift, then the political changes can be lasting and sustained.
But that would require speaking out openly and publicly to help break people out of the grips of fear-based decision-making, to help people break out of mass formation hypnosis or denial.
Does that make sense? What do you think of this perspective?
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JFK proved the fallacy of not doing that.
Kennedy was in way over his head, and it cost him his life.
Trumps mistake as well.
@@thetruthchannel349 Trump does say a lot about the corrupted swamp but that is what his supporters want to hear. I wish he would tone it down a bit. He knows how utterly corrupt the politicians are in DC. He has known how they operate for years because he has dealt with them. He knows how they think how they operate and that is what scares them. They will not stop going after him because they know they will lose their power. I am afraid they may try to assacinate him if they see he will get re-elected. Look how the FBI treated him. They tried very hard to destroy the men. I want to see those s o b’s arrested put in prison.
Allen Dulles' legacy continues today. Too bad JFK didn't tear the CIA into a thousand pieces as he desired, but was whacked before he could complete the task.
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Thats WHY he was Murdered.
JFK made the mistake of NOT striking first; he should have had Dulles and LeMay taken out.
Murder incorporated - got away with JFK so continue with same approach to this day. MLK, Bobby, Malcolm, all the way to 911 and sabotage of the Nordstrom gas pipelines.
@@robertdore9592 jfk never think about dulles would have the balls to touch a usa sitting president.
Both Dulles brothers were Freemasons and if you don't think that really matters, your kidding yourselves.
i know it does,
Daley Plaza is a Masonic Memorial
youre wasting your time with the freemason stuff, it's not anything and never has been, ever. It's just a club. Why are obvious facts so easy to dismiss while wild unproven theories arent?
I know and I butt heads with my dad (former 32nd degree mason). He thinks masons are Christians.😔😔 he also stands with nazi Ukraine.😖😒
Their are many presidents and other prominent government officials too!
Taking the Dulles Brothers on without moving quicker cost both JFK & Robert their lives. The fact that JFK publicly announced to end the CIA alone triggered both assassinations.
Dulles brothers were wicked individuals. Legal international murders. Yes, and throw daddy Bush in the mix too. Reality is many leaders are sociopaths. If they desire higher office; they should be required to pass a psychological test and made public.
I am an MK ultra victim I can tell you who killed Kennedy and how and why I know interested
Tell us about your Qanon theory while you're at it.
JFK hung himself. He was having extramarital affairs and J Edgar Hoover had the goods on him. Lyndon Johnson got wind of it and blackmailed Kennedy into making Johnson his running mate. That was his first mistake. Not going along with the bay of pigs fiasco was his second. His third and last big mistake was saying publicly that he intended to break the CIA into a thousand pieces. Somewhere in there is his refusal to go into south east Asia which had the military industrial complex in a tizzy... The question is therefore not who wanted Kennedy dead, but who didn't want Kennedy dead?
@@barrybarnes96At the right time 😊
The Devil's Chessboard is a phenomenal book that opened my eyes to the true recent history of the United States. I was appalled and saddened at the same time. No longer am I that innocent citizen accepting U.S. history at face value. I mourn for my father and uncles, all veterans of WWII. I mourn for the veterans of the Viet Nam Conflict. I mourn for the veterans of the Korean Conflict, the veterans of Desert Storm and The Gulf War. I mourn for the lost of the United States of America that our Founding Fathers envisioned and sacrificed so much so that the U.S. remained independent of foreign powers. When shown a copy of the Warren Commission, a gentleman who was a foreign head of state scroll down to the list of members of the Warren Commission> When he saw Allen Dulles' name, the gentleman pushed back the copy of the report and stated that the report is a "white wash." Allen Dulles was a very evil man. But there were others as well.
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Oh the people in history that helped ruin a situation that wasn't as dire as some demogogs wanted us to believe.
A good next book would be Georgetown Professor and Bill Clinton’s mentor Carrol Quigleys infamous “Tragedy and Hope” and “The Anglo American establishment” both books are essentially about how a secret society formed by Cecil Rhodes is who created the round table groups that control modern society especially geopolitics like the Royal Institute for international affairs and the Council on Forged Relations in the US that are the actual drivers of international policy, and the most famous quote would be from tragedy and hope where he talks about the Round Table group being the real drivers of “the conspiracy to subvert the American way of life” and he laughs that people think it’s a commie plot from Moscow and says they’ll never figure it out because it’s the wealthiest monopoly capitalist from the west that actually funded the communists in the first place
Check out well known: A People's History of the United State; Howard Zinn ( progressive history professor) Phenomenal book
Good for you, Maryann ! The destruction being waged against America is operated by the most highly sophisticated infiltrators that use our liberty to destroy us. Dulles was a wall street banker/lawyer. He orchestrated the importation of NAZIS that actually led to Kennedy's death and Vietnam War. Seems most Americans are content to be voyeurs as long as their personal life isn't affected. What's worse is being scoffed at by idiots that know nothing but act as if they know everything. I applaud your efforts to be awake and alert.
Those Dulles brothers were two treacherous individuals caused a lot of suffering of many citizens of the world.
which continues to this day.
@@jennifs6868 And it operates with a policy of nothing-off-the-table, regime change, assassinations, torture, violent coups, proxy wars, sabotage...
Those are my cousins
@@bellafontejohnson-bm8ep Well, they suck.
@@amoore1505 And they’re roasting in the deepest part of Hell.
In my humble opinion Alan Dulles was one of the most evil men ever on the planet
Exactly and he would have his fingers removed and put no 2 graffiti grafite to help him feemovlof montok tick an old grand dad's day neer
Donald Rumsfeld is on that list, too.
Victoria Nuland, too.
He eats Skippy pea butter
@@aliciaczechowski3281 I heard his nickname was Ronald dumb dumb drums fell
We have been a CIA run war based economy since November 23,1963.
I believe the "powers that be" realized that after WWI, war is profitable. The CIA took that realization to the next level.
LBJ thought he would be a greater president than FDR. Lucky he made it through the first term.
It started way before that. As soon as WW2 ended it began and the first physical manifestation was the overthrow of Iran's DEMOCRATICALLY elected head. The coup by CIA . All for resources and power.
It’s been going on before that date, they just expanded operations!
Yep, 100% accurate comment. CIAmerica since 1963, I post it everywhere I can!
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
- Benjamin Disraeli
Very 😐
If anyone should know that it's Disraeli !
Straight from hell's kitchen.They rule this world, for now...
But 99% of the people of the west havent even heard of him rofl.
Most people believe things get worse over time in every single country (aside from internet speeds) because those in charge are stupid. This is a logical fallacy. If people running things really were stupid, they would occasionally make mistakes that are beneficial to the country. This one way flow of traffic, that I'm gonna bluntly measure by how happy people are, is in free fall. So either this is some coincidence, or the entire world is centrally managed, which includes the THEATRES of war with those SOLD TO DIE.
Agree this is a significant book that was a milestone in waking up honest thinkers about what is really going on. It should appeal to conservatives as well as traditional liberals.
Thank you. Hopefully it will appeal to both types of readers.
It seems here in 2023 that instead of bringing conservatives back from this ideology that the liberals have undertaken the same behavior. The Democrats today are the NeoCons.
You mix this with DaVinci code assasins creed John wick and batman and you get star trek; morals and dogma by another name
Doing enochs book of the fallen and transforming into robots.
End times, the nations are in turmoil, soon a loaf of bread will cost a days wares (read Revelation 6)! JESUS CHRIST is coming soon for the rapture of HIS true church - all born again Christians. Please accept JESUS as your Lord and Savior while you can!!! Listen to Dr. Ron Rhodes on end times chronology.
PS: please don't become a follower of the coming Antichrist who will create order out of chaos - for a while...
The fact remains Betty that sheeple will only believe what they've been conditioned or rather "programmed" to believe by the talking ahitheads on their tell lie visions which is why it was so difficult for many of us to WAKE up to begin with.
Of one isn't objective enough to call BS when they see it, they certainly won't be objective enough to at least spend the time it sometimes takes to reform their opinions.
In most cases, one need not look far to see that almost everything we think we know about almost everything we know is a lie created by very evil elite whale manure who have mo desires whatsoever but to see the rest of us go to zero BP ASAP.
The CONTROL ALTER DELETE VAQUEX by the guy who named Microsoft after his penis is one that's done a fine job reducing the population.
To think...if Broom Rider Clinton had somehow managed to get her hooves in the Big chair of the oral office, we'd all be dead, slaves or learning Chinese at a college level if we choose to keep breathing.
They will not Wake up until its too late which is fast approaching. Though many of us refuse to be enslaved, learn Chinese or be abused in any way, shape or form, but words to the wise, IF you elect to fight back and defend, please save at least one bullet, IN YOUR POCKET, for yourself.
Peessowt Betty!
Glad to meet you
David Talbot is a great author. If you wanna know more about Allen Dulles, Constitutional Law Attorney Daniel Sheehan is well versed on Dulles. Talbot's main focus on the Dulles brothers is from the beginning of CI, during the Eisenhower Administration, those two go way back.
With that said, it leaves me a tad puzzled that more folks here in the states don't know what Allen was involved in. Going all the way back to 1919, Allen Dulles played a large part in the drafting the Treaty of Versailles, he was very instrumental in setting up the reparation payments of over 130 Billion Gold Marks which Germany agreed to pay to all the businesses that were damaged, ruined or put out of business as a result of WW1.
Allen Dulles was also the one that okayed Adolf Hitler to become the Chancellor of Germany in the 1930's.
Thanks for sharing this!
Sheehan start of the new paradigm institute and Romero Institute correct? I understand the big, big picture!
GREAT POST---I had DULLES killed by Ninja(great Uncle from Burma)This for him threatening me three times and then proceeding to trying to do it.
When they found out WHO I was it was 7/6/66 then 7/6/67 the 7/6/68 at Ft KNOX---They sure do love that date 7/6(for it is the Complete signing of Declaration)
and DULLES exploded the plane that Joseph Kennedy was IN---KNEW if he was successful AMERICA would be HIS because of old Man Joseph and His Power.
4 COUP's my dear people that DULLES was in Charge of.
Joseph Jr.(an easy kill-a hidden explosive/by remote??
Poisoning of Joseph Senior(should have been death).
John
Francis
John Jr(I got John Jr Killed just like his dad. FIGHTING against EVIL I have LOST many GOOD MEN and YET NOT ONE AMERICAN KNOWS WHO I AM.
At least 10 attempts on MY LIFE and CHRIST has protected me EVERY TIME.
AGAIN great POST---WE are the STUPID People whom know NOTHING but Perverted SEX-why should we know anything about the TRUTH--WE don;t live for the TRUTH we live to LIE..
I am not ok with Sheehan. I think he has such a religious outlook that it colors his thinking and historical analysis. I don’t trust his ax grinding. But, having that understanding he has been generally on the decent side of history. Allen Dulles on the other hand was evil criminal leader. He was responsible for horrible conspiracy. May he burn in hell.
Every coup etc they do to other countries always ends up making things way worse. We still feel repercussions of things they did years ago.
Yes, all of the corruption, assassinations, civil / regional wars they fomented ... they stared into the abyss and have become indistinguishable from it.
Yes, and We The People are in part responsible for allowing it to continue. Karma, and we will pay - even now we are in so many ways. Look at the French they say no.
I’m a retired defense engineer I developed weapons and telemetry systems all classified and I can tell ya now being older I can say you are completely correct and every over seas military action in my opinion were all unnecessary and we should mind our own business … but that’s just it they make war business
@@martino8114 war is money. That’s so true. Sad but true.
How do you know it makes it worse?
We can't forget the deep interest the Dulles brothers and their cohorts had in the occult. Very much similar to the interest the German elites had in the occult in the ge1930's and '40's. Former high ranking Gestapo operatives under Operation Paper Clip were brought into the US to help build the Agency.
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USA is pro-communist since the 1930s especially traitor FDR and his administration.
@@readara5107 Is anyone writing about this?
@@readara5107 and that's why I never believed it was impossible for Albert Einstein to bring his wife and son to America .
With how much our government wanted him here I'm sure he could have said " If I can't bring my wife and child to the U.S. , well then , forget it ... I won't move to America without them . "
From what I read, they were unhappy in their marriage, possibly he didn't want her to join him in American, preferred his freedom?
Sociopathic history of the modern USA.
Actually, the entire history of USA (beginning with the holocaust of the Native American Indians.)
They are international.
Since at least 1913.
@@Somee989 Yep, in the denominationally racists books
Or psychopathic?
An excellent interview and spoke truth. The Dulles brothers are two of the most wicked people to walk our earth.
Don't forget Soros
while true, these guys were just pawns really. There are far more powerful people in the shadows pulling their strings. These people all need to be exposed, charged, convicted and executed.
Are they still alive? Thank heavens Sidney Gottlieb, the one who designed MK Ultra, is no longer with us!
@@DrAnnBlakeTracy Dulles are both dead. Yeah Gottlieb passed about 20 years ago. Hope they are all rotting in hell.
Add Cheney & Rumsfeld to that list. Kissinger... Clinton (Hillary)... Scott Gottlieb... Anthony Fauci... Gates... Schwab... geez, there really is no end...
One of the most important books of recent history.
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Not really.
It was the Rand corporation that was the think tank behind the cia.
The cia is basically troopers doing the dirty work for Rand.
@@arryritalinni Did you read this book? If not, you really should. It’s very well done.
The frustrating thing is that there is no way to prosecute these people.
Agreed!
What frustrates me even more, is that God Almighty allows people like this perform their evil, at will, with no earthly repercussion's! In some ways, it shakes my faith...
@@d.vaughn8990You know what God says?, “I can’t believe these people allow these guys to do such evil.”
Who are 'these people'?? The American public? The American public has been kept in the dark, lied to, and coerced!
I am not saying that 'we' bear no responsibility. First and foremost, I place the blame on our elected officials, who are sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States!
In addition, the media is a willing co-conspirator, spewing false information and narrative's, and redirecting our attention elsewhere.
We all have free will and judgment comes at the end of our lives. These evil people have a special place in hell I am sure.
Military tribunals. That's the only way to fix this
Reading thru most of these comments I notice not one mention of James Douglas's work on this exact same theme, "JFK and the Unspeakable." Published in 2008, it tells the same story from a slightly different angle than Talbot's, but establishes beyond dispute that Dulles and a small team of CIA operatives orchestrated the whole assassination, with Oswald as carefully managed scapegoat, who did play a minor role but was almost entirely in the dark about the hit itself. Douglas and Talbot have the goods on the most evil bunch who've ever existed, the CIA, as well as co-conspirator Hoover at FBI. Of course, none of these bastards will ever be held accountable. Totalitarian USA marches on, wrecking the world for Wall St. and global capitalism!
Thanks for your recommendation.
They are in the hands of the Living God....the Father of orphans and the husband of widows. If nothing else the reputations of these public servants is shredded.
We look forward to you explaining how the people framing "scapegoat" Oswald knew:
- he would show up unexpectedly at the Paine house Nov. 21 otherwise they can't pretend he smuggled the rifle
- nobody would ever find any bullets or fragments that don't match to his rifle
- he would immediately flee the plaza
- he had a gun in Oak Cliff and would obtain it
- an imposter who looks so much like him he's guaranteed to fool the nearly dozen witnesses who ID Oswald needs to be hanging around 10th and Patton
- Officer Tippit won't simply outdraw and capture his attacker
- Oswald will agree to help frame himself by trying to shoot a second cop and fighting like a maniac
- Oswald will lie to police and refuse to cooperate
- Oswald, addressing the entire world on live TV, will not make the slightest attempt to blurt out anything about any conspiracy and will instead just shrug a hollow, rambling reply that all but dodges the question when asked, "Did you shoot the President?"
- they can safely count on scores of witnesses, ballistics experts, police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, doctors, photographers, x-ray technicians, Oswald family members, journalists, whole commissions, etc., to obey illegal orders to commit crimes and make themselves all eternally loyal accessories to murder and treason...
@@aaronz7056 I believe there is a video of Oswald telling reporters that he was a patsy !
@@bold58 And if you watch that whole clip he only says he is a patsy in relation to being hassled by cops for having lived in Russia, not because he's saying some coup is setting him up as the assassin of the President. You know what there also is? Video of Oswald being asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?" In response, does Oswald:
- recoil in bug-eyed shock? No.
- exclaim an appalled, "What are you, nuts? Of course not!" No.
- beg protection for his family from this sinister gang of villains framing him? No.
- make the slightest attempt to blurt out anything about any conspiracy? No.
- scarcely bat an eye, and just shrug a hollow, rambling reply, followed by a complaint the cop he was caught red-handed trying to murder had the nerve to hit him? Yes.
Other videos that exist include an interview with the President of the Dallas Bar Association himself who had just interviewed Oswald, who turned down offers of help from him, and with Oswald's brother Robert, who affirms he acted so smug and so placid when he visited him in jail he even convinced him he was guilty.
My Father was Navy Intel he went into the OSS was stationed in china in 1943 secretly. Then went into the newly formed CIA He eventually left and went into private practice. The stories he told were mind blowing and the things he showed me.
Thank you for sharing this!
So you also should write a book! To improve we must know more alike this stuff!
@@robertsattler8201 people need to come out about what's really happening
Be careful what you do. Big brother is watching
Look up "OSS Herbert Marcuse" ! 👀
I loved the Kennedy's and felt very happy about this book being written. I'm afraid for RFK Jr., because he is thinking of running for president in 2024. If he does , we will need to unite in prayer for him. He's got that pure idealism that both his father and uncle had. Unfortunately, this will put him in serious danger. Boy, what a corrupt country we live in.... I just ordered the book- thanks Mr Talbot for writing it.
Thanks for posting! We appreciate your interest in the book.
He is running
Yup- he’s already taking on one of the big 3 dark forces: Big Pharma.
The high and mighty left wing media will pester him worse than they do President Trump!! I wish that type of out of control media could be stopped, and them do the job theyre supposed to do.! Also, don't think his voice can hold out. But I wish him all the luck in the world, and may God protect him and his family !
I'm a republican by I liked the Kennedys. I'm not sure about the present Kennedys.
The US is a Constitutional Republic. We really need to stop referring to it/us as a Democracy. I understand the general reference, but there is a very important difference between a Democracy and our Constitutional Republic.
Great interview. Thank you for sharing it.
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A democratic republic embedded in a constitutional framework. Go to civics class. You’re quibbling with word definitions does not illuminate differences. The United States in every legal aspect IS A DEMOCRACY! Liberty and justice and voting for every citizen. THAT’s a democracy. Unless of course the ultra right wing republicans institute another coup attempt like Jan. 6 and we lose our democracy with an authoritarian like Trump and we become some kind of fascist dictatorship!! That what you want??!!
we are not a republic voting doesn’t matter we are ruled by a criminal oligarchy that doesn’t care about this country or us as they pick apart what is left of the country for greed and power
And to the Republic for which it stands. One Nation under God.
We are a Republic not democracy .we have a constitution constitutional rights.
Interesting how and why Dulles was a member of the Warren Commission!
And Gerald Ford... Who replaced Nixon as President 🤔
@@eternity8811 not a close comparison- Ford was a low level tool.
Almost every interview you see Dulles in, when asked about Kennedy, he seems to always fidgeting with something.
@@janetphillips2875 Like I've seen Bill Gates rocking back and forth in 3 or 4 separate interviews.
Not only on the commission, he was the Chairman.
This is one of the most important books I have ever read. It is highly annotated & documented.
I read this book and was fascinated by all I learned, including Dulles' post WWII protection of GESTAPO commandant in Italy, Karl Wolff. I was disappointed the author did not deal with GHW Bush's possible assassination involvement. Bush appears to have contacted an FBI agent on assassination day, and gave a red herring lead, which is documented in a memo. J Edgar Hoover appears to have mentioned a CIA "George Bush" also in a memo. Both memos are dated 22 Nov 1963.
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George H.B. Bush, Colby, Ferrara (sp?) and two others formed the "Gang of Five" who developed America's drug problem: they set up financng the CIA thorugh the illicit drug infltration of America: they were all proomised the position of CIA Director in turn (Ferrara dropped out when he found out that Coly was selling drugs to the U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.
Bush asked them if he could bring an 'administative' person to work on this, which he was given permission. Colby was, or developed, into a psychopath: he thought everyone was either stealing money or drsgs off of him, and he killed THOUSANDS of those working on this funding program (pilos, distributors, venfors, drug and money mules, et al). From what I understand, he was 'talked to by the others constantly to keep him from killing more people.
The CIA then paid academia, lke Timothy Leary, to PROMOTE drug experimentation amongst college-aged kids who became America's future middle class.
Fun Fact: Barack Obama is 8th cousins to Dick Cheney and 11th cousins to GW Bush. Tell me the lottery odds a random white chick from Oklahoma and some random black dude from Kenya having a kid and that kid becomes the first black president of the U.S. and he is that closely related to the white guys who ran the country right before him.
SS general
@@wolfgangdevries127 You are right. Thanks for the correction.
Didn’t Churchill refer to these two as “dull, duller, Dulles?”
If not, he SHOULD have.
Yes, Winston Churchill also described him as “A bull who carried his own china shop around with him.” LOL!
Dull and Duller....sounds like a movie🤔🤣
@janetphillips2875 so you're saying there is a chance...😅
Dulles, Johnson, Hoover. The evil triumvirate.
Yes, many do not understand that the FBI head was in on it as well!
I remember those times and events that opened my eyes at such a young age of 11years old that great good was and will be always on the threshold of being snuffed out at any cost.
My heart is still wounded.
That was what it was meant to do. It was a demoralizing psyop as well as meant to stop JFK.
Fight anyway. Don’t let them succeed.
Peace be with you, Denise. My heart will always be wounded too. There are many of us who will never forget and always love truth and freedom.
Don't dismiss the similarities between then and now. Might be different in many ways but far too similar in others. They took out two Kennedys, one former running president doesn't seem to be safe.
I was 8 and the President was my hero. When I saw one man trying to do good stopped in his tracks like that it made me realize just how easily evil could be powerful in this world. Then to watch the continuous orchestrated devolution of America from then to this day...
Perhaps the greatest Dulles mission was the pathway and assurance of a Permanente war economy. That's a pretty broad brush. As President Eisenhower described.
Interesting thought, thanks!
Dear God learn to spell
Eisenhower was in on it. War mongering pos! He murdered general Patton.
McCarthy should have been president instead.
Kaiser Permanente also. Brodish Dulles mission. Just like Eisenhower subscribed. Thank you, Mr Pax.
I believe this book by Talbot not only unmasks the “who, and more importantly, why JFK was killed, still reverberates through this world to this day. Dulles was the driver behind NATO for example.
The channel "America's untold stories" really goes in depth surrounding the whole JFK murder. They easily name the CIA assassin who also ran out of the school book depository a well known assassin'. Latino! He was described as a black man or afro Cuban.
Just watched Operation Gladio; set up, in part by Bedell Smith & our 'mucker' Al. Ably assisted by Frank Wisner & the usual suspects. I mean they were as bad as the nazis & communists.
14:20 jfk admitted to French ambassador that he was not in control of his own cia
Very interesting conversation. I read Mighty Justice the autobiography of Dovey Johnson and in chapter 11 she discusses representing a young man accused of killing a socialite who happened to have been Kennedy’s mistress. And her ex husband was part of CIA . Ben Bradlee had been her brother in law and knew of a secret diary detailing this. He didn’t think to share this evidence with her and she only learned of it years later. This goes beyond Republican and Democrat labels. That he ends with a seemingly optimistic view of a Hilary presidency demonstrates he is myopic in views.
"Republican and Democrat labels" are nothing but labels. C. Wright Mills' The Power Elite (1953) describes the post-WWII inception of the MIC and the rise of a military/corporate/intelligence elite that took control of government in order to extend their own power and financial interests, using party affiliation, whatever it may be, to manipulate popular thinking.
@@aliciaczechowski3281 LMFAO 😂😂💀 they censored your comment. If you have top comments on instead of newest, your comment doesn't show.
Socialite: Mary Pinchot Meyers..? Cord Meyer's wife.
Murdered while taking a walk along the river in DC.
Meyer?
@@janetphillips2875 - Yes, Mary Pinchot Meyer. She was married to Cord Meyer (CIA). I believe they divorced in the late 50's. Mary Meyer was very close friend with CIA James Angleton's wife, Cicely Harriet d'Autremont. Mary and Cicely were friends from their days attending Vassar. James Angleton had wiretaps place on Mary Meyer's phone. Mary's sister Toni was married to Ben Bradlee, the Executive Editor of The Washington Post.
I read the book a few years ago. Very well researched and presented. I always recommend others to read both the books on the Dulles brothers.
I read it awhile ago. Very informative book.
Oswald was FBI and reported directly to Hoover who was necessarily spying on the CIA. The CIA then pinned it on Hoover's boy as a FU.
I commented something similar to what you said, and the one of the lone nutter club members ridiculed me big time. He was a real jerk. That little club is a jerk to everyone who thinks other than they.
Oswald visited the USSR and was a communist.
You are one of the few to recognize Oswalld's postion...he was trained to speak Russain shortly after learning a previous language in teh miilitary shorlty before, then was 'discharged under a questionable reason, lived quite well passing out Communist pamphlets, went to Russia for 2.5 years, married the daughter of a KGB offficial, then came home (all without a job)!
Many people do not recognize that his 'Uncle (by the name of Sam) who as supportig him!
Oswald went to New Orleans and met the FBI Director there (in his combined private investigator office with his love-in secretary): a couple of weeks after meeting the secretary, she told her boss/lover one morning that she was "converned about that Oswald guy because I saw him passing out Communist pamphlets on teh street this morning: her boss.turned to her and said, "Don't worry about Oswald: he is one of us."
Rubbish.
Said that they were assassinated. Sad general Patton was as well
I have read that too.
They killed Patton and gave the the gullible American public a fake war hero like Eisenhower as a replacement 😢😂.
Any analysis of the 'secret govt' needs to go back (at least) to the early 1900's to the political manipulations that created the FBI, and to the rise of J Edgar Hoover, and to his self-described 'seat of government'. Focusing on the Dulles Bro's misses half the story, as it could be argued that Hoover was a much more significant player with greater influence and power.
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exactly. There's a lot more to the story than just the dullard boys.
I've wondered if the "filibusters" of the nineteenth century, groups of Americans who would arm here then go take over another country, were sponsored by and worked for the forefathers of those who founded the Federal Reserve Banks, the CIA, etc.
@@driatrogenesis Secrets of the Federal Reserve is disturbingly eye-opening.
no he wasn't. Hoover was under the thumb of the mafia (which he said "didn't exist") due to his cross-dressing activities.
Hoover had power of course he kept 'files' on everybody but once the Dulles brothers came into their political 'destinies' they far surpassed anything Hoover had.
I love the way Churchill described Allen Dulles: dull, duller & Dulles.
Very interesting & well researched & in tune with the patterns & tactics of the dark reallity & its players behind the facade
Thank God the arms of The Lord are not short. Only fools think otherwise. A better Indept understanding would be Anthony Sutton's books / videos on The Order of Skull and Bones. Fools guided by Evil think they can control The World. Satan's carefully laid traps will give them anguish beyond measure.
Mr Talbot, have you heard anything about the theory that Reagan's CIA Director, William Casey, was responsible for the Chernobyl meltdown, which happened the same day as the Democrat House of Representatives was to hold hearings on why Reagan, against the advice of rocket scientists, of ordered the launch in cold weather which resulted in the Challanger catastrophe? He would be using the Chernobyl 'accident' to take the spotlight off of Reagan's disregard for the lives of the astronauts for the PR event of his speaking to them in his SOTU that evening.
Casey himself was diagnosed with a brain tumor by a CIA physician after Chernobyl, and had brain surgery 3 days later, by CIA surgeonswhich resulted in him not being able to speak; a lobotomy. He was dead from pnumonia a year after the melt down in May 1987.
Every step of CIA activities and assertions planned, calculated, carried out in cut throat and cutting ways!
Thank you for sharing this. I was only in K-2 when that happened. So many events occur in a small period of time.
Maybe the chemical spill is revenge for what happened in Chernobyl. That shit even more deadly then radiation. Hmm I'm more convinced neither are addicents but corruption made both easier to happen
Casey was murdered. He didn't die of pneumonia.
@@brianjacob8728 Are you suggesting that the CIA is incapable of murdering an already hospitalized victim/target with an infection of pneumonia to hide their involvement?
Dulles Airport MUST be Renamed!
I have family that lives in Virginia and DC. I will NEVER fly into Dulles Airport! I agree, that airport needs to be renamed!!!
@@maryanng6841Trump Airport
There should be zero tax dollars used to build memorials to any politician on either side.
Why do that and forget the history! People need to know, who was Dulles? What did he do? Educate people to this chapter in USA cIA history!
That would help to ignore and keep people in the dark!
This is the book you really don't want to read. It lays out the Military Industrial Complex and how they work. Kennedy didn't have a. chance.
JFK was correct and the CIA didn't waste time in eliminating the threat to their existence. We the people have been observing for over half a century. The surviver of this war must grind the loser into dust. Live free or Die 🇺🇸.
I can't imagine that after listening this fascinating and ultimately horrifying story, anybody withe sound mind and morale can ever trust to anything government is saying and doing. This is irreparably damaged society wit no hope for future except perpetual wars, killings and assassinations untill is got destroyed by itself. How tragicall path this Country chooses to follow!?!?!? It's very painful and endlessly disturbing.
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Fantastic Book! Read this years ago and it was extremely helpful for someone trying to figure out how this world really works.
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Never announce what you are about to do .. forewarned is forearmed .. and these people are ruthless 😮
Unfortunatelly this satanic Dulles character spawned monsters as we see ourselves now in 2023 , Evil unlimitted
'We The People, ought to ABOLISH OUR Government,According to the Preamble of The U.S Constitution of The "United States of America!" "Power To WE THE PEOPLE?"🙏❤️🙏💜🙀😁
Totally agree. We've let them become too weaponized. They'd not take kindly to citizens trying to overcome.
The Dulle brothers were both clinical psychopath. Psychopaths should have a picture of both in books
I didn’t hear anything I disagreed with, sounds like a guy switched on, and well researched.👍😉
He is! Thanks
This is a limited hangout, the auther is very much part of the deep state apparatus, nonetheless there are some jems to be mined.
There are more powerful families and institutions behind the JFK hit. This didn't begin and end with the Dullards, which is what is implied here. No mention of the Bushes, Rockefellers and the rest of the robber baron families.
Similar to Whitney Webb
Maybe this was a 2-fer. Maybe Oswald knew something from his intelligence days (if true) that Dulles couldn't allow to be revealed. He got rid of two enemies in one operation. ? Food for thought.
Mahumba (sp?) was to spite and make Kennedy afraid ( that's just my opinion)
Watch the documentary, "From JFK to 9/11; Everything's a Rich Man's Trick." You will drawn your own conclusions.
@@maryanng6841 That documentary is communist propaganda.
The Kennedys were also going to increase the taxes on Big Oil in America; one author said that was WHY he was shot n Dallas, TX...it wasn't just ONE gourp of people who wanted the Kennedys gone!
Lamar Waldron wrote a few books on the Kennedy assassination, RFK, and MLK.
Churchill quote:
Dull, duller, Dulles.
Thanks for your comment! It's true that Churchill referred to John Foster Dulles, but it's safe to say he most definitely said things about the brother discussed here, too. After all, Churchill knew the world of secret operations inside out.
@@readara5107 I great many secrets died with Churchill - the man was a scumbag.
@@readara5107 He also was envious of their power; Britania no longer ruled. They had to remind Churchill on this score from time to time. Eden certainly got taken to the woodshed over Suez.
Agree, and Winston had some good lines in his day, but he had his own skeletons. He should have never been prime minister, drunkard that he was.
American Exception by Aaron Goode is another must-read.
Sometimes we confuse fallen angels with men.
Im an Aussie and i think this is very relevant to understanding the world we live in today.
I bought this book and others like it. Makes you want to slit your throat out of despair at man’s greed and evil. How I spent my Mother’s Day afternoon…
The book reveals the true history of our nation ,! Thank you, Allen Dulles
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You are thankful for dulles as he was trying to start nuclear ww3 and giving the whole world decades of nuclear winters and billions of deaths? Disgusting!
@@mr.gadfly6249 Unless the commentary is from a Nazi.
@@mousiebrown1747 Well, Allen Welsh Dulles was against the Nazis (without rejecting their methods though)
We've been made into sheeple for too long. Never knew this history.
Concentrate on your local municipalities.
The areas in which we live impact us the most. Expose corruption at every level.
Thank you ! Very interesting story about a true story that should not be forgotten , about how the Dulles Brothers were truly and forever be remembered as evil piece of S_ _ T , hope they burn in the deepest pit that is Hell for eternity .God bless.
Amen
Imagine a world where JFK didn't get taken out , where would we be now ??
I feel a much better world 🌍 than we have now for Dam sure.☮️🙏🏻
Sad reality we fell into instead. Where do we go from here?
please remember the kennedys were a crime family. don’t deify people you will only be dupped or disappointed
@@JohnDoe-ef3wo It tells you in the bible where we go from here.
THE NAZIS & CIA DID IT - with the help of the MAFIA FREE COUNTRY? BS!!!!!!!!!
Most rational explanation to date of this ongoing history.
its funny to think that both Allen Dulles and J Edgar Hoover were in power at the same time. Talk about a monsters ball I wonder what their relationship was like?
I don’t think there was a particularly congenial relationship but it would make an interesting book.
Allen loved women...j.edgar loved to wear wimmens panties...theres always compromise...
Talbot's articulation of the many details is first-rate. At the end, he mentions the cultural upheavals in '60s San Francisco - ironically, yet one more place where CIA involvement has been implicated.
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Laurel canyon also. Weird scenes inside the canyon by Dave McGowan is a great read!
Has Talbot made the connection including how the press covered the "counter culture" night after night even though it should have been completely unimportant?
@@kalburgy2114 However. evidence shows
that gov manipulated counterculture +
then--- new drugs to.subvert it,& student
movement, peace movement, minority
movements, womens movement,
minority movements, gay + lesbian
movements.
I would imagine that Congress would exclude the 'Director of the C.I.A from charing the JFK investigatory commission, therefore strategy required Dulles to publicly stand down. Without a conflict of interest to hinder his appointment, ex-director Dulles is of course selected to head the Warren Commission. His secretly (yet openly) continuing to direct CIA operations from his home hopefully proves that the whole affair was carefully choreographed and known to an exclusive few, including the President.
Incluing LBJ!
Outstanding interview of an esteemed author. Thank you. ❤️
Well if there’s any consolation it’s that Dulles is receiving his Just Reward even now as we speak. Praise God.
Complete GRATITUDE for the INFORMATION share.... 🙏🏽
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Very informative conversation
“And there’s not a damn thing you’re gonna do about it.” - Billy Jack. 1971
Impressive interviewing from underwater.
The only safe way to discuss Deep State subject matter. 🙂
Finger prints on the empty spent shells from the Carcano rifle, was Oswald prints on them? The "Pristeen Bullet" found on the Presidents gurney at Parkland Hospital, who placed it there? What happened to Harvy the CIA Agent?
Readara the sound on you is terrible. But thanks for this important and good interview.
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW AND EXCELLENT BOOK.
Some very well read individuals have commented here it would seem. I would like to see mentioned Whitney Webb's two volume book,
-One Nation Under Blackmail-
Since it casts it's regard back even further. And fasts forwards to the present!
@@driatrogenesis that is very interesting. Why do you think I never heard of Eustace?
This book is simultaneously eye-opening and sickening. RFK Jr is the establishments next target.
I have to wonder if Allan Dulles & my dad developed the torture regimes I survived, given what I have just heard of his character and what I have been used by the USAF & CIA to provide in the way of “psychic intelligence” under a handler’s trauma bonded control? Sadistic doesn’t begin to express what black ops does to a target for control, manipulation for access & exploitation and control of the propaganda around their criminal overlording of a target that the public gets knowledge of.
Shalom. 🕊️MM
My grandfather, William S. Paley, was the director of Psychological Warfare in WW2. That is what is being used on Americans today. Too bad most folks are too doped up and dumbed down to understand. MKULTRA shootings EVERYDAY
@@tomsawyer3324 ? Beat them? They were men raping and torturing a child, and are dead now. No Justice is the point today’s geopolitical Neurolink fascists are making, with target victims chipped in without consent, like me. It’s a SHOW of entitlement & empowerment for the criminals that side with them & through their tech to destroy their victims, Tom! WHO is beating who?
The government has been terrorizing me for years.
Free Assange!!
Great minds
Makes sense to me
What makes no sense is LBJ putting Allen Dulles on the Warren Commission.
@@roberteaston6413 LBJ was in on it.
Actually it made perfect sense to put Alan Dulles on the Warren Commission.
@@dnickaroo3574 For LBJ it made sense. For people wanting to get to the truth it made no sense.
Tremendously impressive book!
Excellent book, interesting in background info for the time .
Great Book, one of my top items
Agreed!💯
A Brother of Allen Dulles was Mayor of Dallas at the time of the JFK Murder. Was that John Foster Dulles or another Brother? Anybody know?
The Mayor of Dallas at the time was Earle Cabell , get this brother of one time deputy director of CIA Charles P Cabell who also was fired by Kennedy , as mayor of Dallas Earle oversaw arrangements for Kennedy’s trip and the planning of the motorcade which went against every protocol of the secret service so there’s definite involvement there as well
@@johnscanlon2598 thank you for that very important part of info.
Remember when you learned about Operation Northwoods in college? Me neither.
The way the late great Bill Hicks described the magic bullet in Dallas is nothin short of genius though!
Oswald was posted in the USSR at one point wasn't he? Also somethin about him being in a photograph that day proving he wasn't anywhere near that window in the book depository.. how did they get away with that!? There was up to 4/5 shots from different angles, then they bump off Oswald, then Robert Kennedy.. not to mention the countless 'fun & games' since then.. if it wasn't all so fuckin tragic it would be funny.. Dr Strangelove indeed!!
Very , very interesting. We will see much more in the future.
Another fantastic book on the CIA is Tim Weiner's "Legacy of Ashes".
Now you know why they call DC the Swamp
Wonderful interview! Thank you!
"I am leaving soon and you'll forgive me if I speak bluntly. The universe grows smaller every day and the threat of aggression by any group anywhere can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all or no one is secure. Now this does not mean giving up any freedom, except the freedom to act irresponsibly." From the opening part of Klaatu's final address to the people of Earth at the end of The Day the Earth Stood Still. First released in 1951 during the Cold War, the movie is just as relevant today.
Yes! I agree Freedom pretty much insinuates responsibility for our planet in everyway resulting in a beautiful free life for all. Why it is so hard to do the RIGHT thing 8 will never understand! Women could run the world, take care of the earth and keep the peace! Yes indeed, with men it is all a power game at all costs. Women really want to fix it and keep the peace. All true.
@@katelist8367 give me a break, you don’t think gals are corrupt! they learn maipulation and lying early and practice it the rest of there lives. gals are also easily manipulated by peer pressure there wouldn’t be a world goverment if they ran the world
I've often wondered if this is the same David Talbot who played bass guitar in the San Francisco, Grateful Dead offshoot band known as The NRPS. He was replaced by Skip Batten of the Bryds.
Guys FOS . This book is just enough to allow you to move past what they really did and what the CIA is really about. Nothing like a little pain to avoid big pain.
Great job , thanks 👍
Several other eye openers...
'The Brothers' by Steven Kinzer
' The Mafia, The CIA & George Bush' by Peter Brewton
The dulles brothers were two of the most notoriously evil men of the 20th century. They helped shape the paridigm which we are still haunted by...
Thank you for sharing your recommendations! You can listen to our interview with Stephen Kinzer here: th-cam.com/video/Aws2VWACytk/w-d-xo.html
Enjoyed this interview
Thank you!
Too much confluence of history for the Kennedy's to have survived. Cuba, The CIA, Cold War, Civil Rights, The Mafia. Too much, too much, too much.
Too true, too true.
He was Prescott's Bush private attorney. On the ground George Bush Sr ( highest ranking CIA , head of covert operations left after JFK fired the top three ) ran the show in Dallas, that's why JFK Jr. named his magazine George. It cost Jr. his life also. Bush Sr also ran the Bay of Pigs.
Excellent interview thank you
Interesting 100% Tom Clancy book cover.
A hat tip, do you think?