This is not a low point. This is the moment when you have a crystal clear plan, for how to move forward, knowing you will be happy with the result. Major progress. Thumbs Up!
I agree. They should not consider this a low point. The final hull will be stronger because it has extra oak in it. And an inflexible plan could be a disaster later if pine planks split too easily.
The Smoke problem on the "shipmate stove" is because of a cold plug in the chimney. A crumpled up sheet of newspaper lit directly under the chimney pipe will push the cold plug out, eliminating the smoke problem at light up.
this needs more upvotes. the first thing you have to do autumn to spring in my family's log cabin. pop a couple of pages form a newspaper and light it up. especially during winter when the cold air pushes down in the chimney and pushes the smoke into the cabin.
Ok, Dumb Aussie here so I was thinking that the cold plug was an actual physical object. Correct me if I'm wrong but what you are talking about is cold air within the chimney and it being heavier than the initial little puff of warm air from the fire. Thus the newspaper lit gives a nice big "wad" of light warn/hot air that is enough to lift the cold air in the chimney and thus get the draw working. Is this basically what you are saying?
My Dad always did this when building a fire in the fireplace "to start the draft working." Later, I envisioned it as creating some inertia up the chimney. With that background, I REALLY like your explanation!! Thanks for awakening a fond memory.
As a former owner of a few cedar boats I can say that they ride great in the water but do not hold up well to a lot of bumps and bruises. Cracked a few planks on simple docking mishaps so the fact you are going with oak is awesome.
I love the split screen: Explanation on the left, actually carrying it out in the right. Makes it much easier to actually understand the explanation. As always, I also love how you explain yourself and lay out a plan, Stephen.
Ya know... You guys have had some tough times lately. The Cedar Dreams tuned into nightmares - and the Global Plague struck us all. But seeing you think, adjust, plan, and "retool" has been a real inspiration - for me, and everyone following the odyssey of Arabella. Watching you guys is a high-point in my week. Keep up the Spirit and Good work.
I have deep respect for you guys in choosing to delete the cedar planks and write off all of that effort to do an optimum job with the oak. I think that you are already master boat builders and I look forward to seeing the end product. Cheers
Ironic that you and Leo both had to back-track at the same time due to wood issues - your cedar below the water line and Leo discovering oak deck beams that appeared to be red oak rather than white oak. Both good to find now rather than at sea. This is called learning. All the best going forward.
The grain in that live oak is absolutely gorgeous! That just might be the most beautiful individual piece in the boat so far. Great that the reverse progress is past you and you have forward momentum again. Keep up the great work guys. You will get there.
You hit a low point but rebounded nicely. So much eye candy in this segment; that beautiful planner in action, that awesome stove and the gorgeous oak grain in that sampson post. You know, there are many woodworkers who pay good money for quarter sawn white oak. What looks like scrap to you looks like a beautiful picture frame to someone else.
The true measure of competence is when things go wrong. This shipbuilding effort has almost every kind of problem that is possibole and Steves ability to improvise and make GOOD important decisions on the fly shows that he has become a master shipwrite as to hi9s mindset and ability to mkake the best of every good and bad thing that happens. When things go right, it is possible to just "connect the dots", but when you have to improvise, that is the test for what you really know about the project. Congratulations!
Don't feel bad about removing the cedar planks. If you really want to explore out out of the way places, the oak planks below the water line will give you peace of mind. Great videos. I like your new go pro clamp, very functional for a boat builder.
Had one of those shipmates. Delightful memories, and I still have the beachcomber eye for little firewoods. An hour with a gunny sack always gave enough for a couple rainy days. Good times.
I think what this teaches all of us is that creating something worthwhile takes a whole lot of blood, sweat and tears 😭. The cost is significant but the rewards are enormous.
I know how frustrating it is to make hard won progress, then find out it wasn't progress, but guys, I can't begin to tell you how absolutely thrilled I am that went back to oak below the waterline. Honestly, I'd love to see you go oak all the way to sheer line. Granted, below w.l. is most important, and you have a limited supply of oak. For my vote, for what it doesn't mean to you the builders, stronger is better always.
Dear lonely acorn and acorns guest. 👍👌👏 Simply fantastic again and as always. Very well done, Sirs, Congrats! It was definitely the right decision to use stabil oak for all planking (although it hurt a bit to take off the cedar planks). A very similar wood problem decision thing happened to great Leo with Tally Ho project. Like you he decided that to be on the safe side is worth the additional effort. Now I will watch the canoeing. Thanks a lot for making teaching recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and health to all of you.
Stephen you are an eternal optimist, I abhor re-doing work! And at 35 you are a hell of a man keep moving ahead on so you can enjoy the sailing adventure.
Franken-Clamp. Not the clamp you wanted, but it IS the clamp you needed!! I love what you have done to the stove. It looks gorgeous! Your choice to abandon the Cedar planks sounds like it was a good one. Nothing would be worse than knocking a hole in that lovely ship at some remote anchorage in the middle of nowhere. The Oak planking will put up with more abuse than you are likely to be willing to throw at her and that is what you want. You want to be the one tossing in the towel before your ship does!
This will just be one of your better stories to tell when you are off on your adventures. Fixing a mistake is the sign of a true craftsman. You are building a better boat than you were a couple of weeks ago -- be proud of that 😊
It's hard to stop and backtrack when you've already put in so much work. But it's far worse to keep moving forward with what you know is a weaker plan. You made the right call. And while it may hurt for a minute, you'll be glad you made the change when you did after it's finished.
Feel sorry that you have to take off the Cedar planks and lose any progress you made but looks like the right decision and we all have learning curves in many projects over the years, I am really old and I still have them so don't be discouraged, I know you would have a a lot more help if not for Covid19, that Erin is a awsum help and encouragement, give him my compliments
Two for the price of one vids today, great. There is nothing wrong with changing the plan, and you have only lost 3 planks; which is nothing in the great big scheme of things. Love the stove. Keep well.
A great learning experience. At least now you can build a "rivot repair tool box" to keep on the boat, and not have to scrounge for the right tools when that time comes.
Great video guys. That Sampson post looks like a piece of furniture. Beautiful grain and color. Nice restoration on the little shipmate stove. Will you be using coal or wood when cruising? With all of the oak drop off you should have fuel for about two years if you can find a way to carry it (lol). Maybe a small fuel dinghy to tow along. Take care, stay well and have a good week.
A my ranch we heat with wood stoves all winter (Snow). And wood is the only fuel that heats you twice...first when you split it then second when you burn it. But for keeping a cast iron stove looking good nothing beats Stove Polish (Amazon $8.50). I've restored a couple of cast iron stoves with a 4" wire wheel and a lot of stove polish. Thank you for sharing your journey with us. Friday morning is now the highlight of my week.
I just had to pause at 5:37 to send off a donation to help you (a little) to get over this hump. I am in awe of how you (all) keep going. I hope to witness Arabella's launch. Maybe in person if I can be as spry as your Grandpa.
a souvenir / fund raising opportunity - cedar planks - showing rivet holes or not - as cooking planks, or scented moth repellent? Maybe brand your logo on each? Sell them like the rivets.
gm Steve, the stove looks great. it will be nice on chilly raw days. Try making a cover that encloses all the rings. when the stove starts to draw, it should suck air and smoke trapped back thru the stove and out. all looks good and great weather for Memorial day weekend. Have fun
A somewhat ironic silver lining: Imagine how many planks you'd be removing if the planking party had happened as planned! You are on the road to long term success. I hope the satisfaction of 'doing it right' was enough sugar to help the bitter pill of reconstruction less painful to swallow.
Hi, was watching Engels coach shop 's last upload about 10 do' s or don't about steaming wood. Surprise, surprise... #1 Always use deciduous trees. Coniferous is a no-no. Hope this helps. Love your series! Been watching since beginning.
Happy Birthday to you, from Northern Germany- Congratulations for the right decisions. Just doing some beautiful work is very important. Nice restored oven and live Oak post. Can't wait till canoeing here...
Amazing progress Steven , even with the weather and the crappy cedar. You must be so happy to be back working with the oak. The live oak does look a lot nicer than white oak or even red oak. Have a great weekend
Stay optimistic, your project is wonderful and despite setbacks, it gives lots of us so much pleasure to watch!! (Ironically, Leo and the Tally Ho crew hit a setback recently too with porous Oak!)
For sealing up the rings lookup up - Black Stove Fire Rope. This might do the trick for you, used a lot on Ranges and stoves, especially on the doors to seal them up.
May I please recommend Ian Smith Boats channel which deserves a much wider audience. An experienced boat builder in Sydney, Australia, he is building a 24 foot wooden sailing boat as his retirement project. Episode 8, Carvel Planking is particularly relevant and his presentation style is informative and concise. He follows your preferred method of planking progressively from keel to sheer and scarf jointing of the planks although he does these on the boat.
Something to bear in mind if/when making changes to designs - sometimes assemblies were deliberately desgined not to be as strong as they could be, so in a failure event (especially a cascading failure) something relatively minor would fail, rather than something really major. I leaned this a while back (at the pub, of course) talking to a guy who was building WWI aircraft from plans. The story goes they made a bunch of changes making things 'stronger' and in turn snapped an interplane strut (Important!) rather than a shackle mount (less important) on a test flight. Love your work, love your videos, keep up the good work.
That is a famous story amongst aerospace engineers - the flight corps wanted to make the wings stronger, but they changed the natural frequencies of the wing and caused it "flutter" and snap at the root. Same principal as what destroyed the Tacoma Narrows bridge :)
Crossed my mind that thicknessing the oak 10%-15% thinner is going to save you substantial weight, be easier to handle, bend etc. , and still be stronger than the cedar . Could transition through one board to keep faired lines...... just a thought.
I was going to ask the same question. They already mentioned that the oak above the water line was going to add 700 pounds, in the grand scheme of a boat with that design and hull shape an additional 700 pounds is nothing (but I'm no Naval Architect). How much thinner can the topsides planks be? I'm with you, at least -15% but maybe even -25%.
@@ralphgesler5110 I saw the video, how do you think I'd know about the extra calculated 700 lbs? I also know, being in the industry, that most impact damage is above the waterline, so I think the cedar is still a bad idea anywhere in the planking after the sledge hammer impact tests. The Western Red Cedar that I'm more familiar with, and even Yellow Cedar, seems like a better choice but I've never whacked it with a sledge hammer to know for sure.
Had a similar reply last time. The iak has twice the strength and twice the crush resistance as cedar. They could theoretically gradually move to a thickness about 1/2 the cedar and plank to the shear with oak without a significant increase in weight above the water line. It would slightly change the shape but unnoticeably. If you don't want the inferior materials below the water line, I don't think you'll want them above the water line. Not all cedar was created equal.
How would thinning the planks affect the the plank-to-plank butt joints of this carvel planked boat? It would reduce the amount of surface area in contact at each butt joint. I would want to know how that might affect the ultimate "caulk-ability" and general water tightness of the seal. This isn't only a question of wood swelling as it hydrates, although thinner planks would dry out faster and planks near the water line would tend to do more wet-dry-wet cycling, which couldn't be good for the caulking. It is also a question of the accuracy and smoothness with which they cut the edge bevels. Does more surface area at the butt joint provide extra margin for sealing, or actually impede sealing?
Thanks for the video Arabella looking good. Glad you are making her all Oak planking. Could you use the Cedar for the inside? Maybe sell your Wood Chips as HORSE Bedding! Thanks take Care
I have absolutely loved watching these guys build this boat. There was just something about them touching and trying to read each piece of wood and the processes that almost made Arabella seem invulnerable. I know nothing about the characteristics of wood. Much less the characteristics necessary for a sailing vessel. I’m 72 years old and in an early time of my life I cut and hand split oak and other woods for a stove to heat my home. Besides red oak and white oak I cut and split maple, gum, (not for long! ) and other local hardwoods.also cut down a fair number of pines. Also had an occasion to cut down two North Carolina red cedars in the front yard of my river house and give the stumps to a friend to carve. So when they started talking about switching to cedar and especially when I saw the first plank it immediately just seemed real wrong to me??Again I’m just a local yokel who cut his own firewood. That’s the depth and breath of my experiences. But it did not feel right. Sure am glad they’ve switched back to oak or something other than cedar.. It had to be a tough decision. Bravo!
If I may, Cast iron is best treated with cooking oil, peanut or sunflower. It smells better and will give a nice coating. And once it's in the boat, wiping it down with cooking is safer as well.
I know it might seem depressing, but ultimately what you said in the last video is what's right, and that is, at night on the boat, you'll sleep like a baby (boat rocking not accounted for). I think it's the right call, among the species' own standards, those pieces you have are behaving odly. Both in the snapping and hammering (tho i knew the test as a press break test). Keep on going, you're on the right path.
Stove really shows the amount of time and working knowledge of what it takes to make a beautiful patina. Your cost was minimal, now it is a priceless piece of work that will last for years to come. Well done. So any updates from Alix? Oh and Stephen, you are doing a great job putting the videos together. Cheers mate!
That's a lovely burner, will make things really cosy. Been around wood burners all my life and never heard of putting kerosene on them. I've always used stove blacking, will give paraffin ( English equivalent of kerosene) a try. Gotta be better than blacking which is well messy. BTW, if you reduce the stove pipe size I would have thought the stove would smoke more - more back pressure. I'd recommend getting to know your burner first before fitting a smaller pipe, burners are affected by wind, nearby objects etc, etc.; every one has it's own idiosyncrasies and personality. Apologies if you know all this. Lastly, although taking off the Cedar must have been a bummer, it's best to sort things your not happy with, it'd have just bugged you else. Thanks for another grand video.....DA.
Yes you figured out the proper way to remove rivets. Center punch center of rivet head then drill off the head ONLY. then use punch to drive out shank. oh and I fell in love with you SHIPMATE STOVE
I had that exact model stove onboard my 40 ft sailboat . Used for two Winters and found that the dry heat kept the boat and stuff nice , but it was very dirty with Ash and easily could smoke you out . Also had to remove the outside chimney everytime I went sailing . Mine ended up a conversation piece and storage , but on the east coast you will need heat to live aboard and you won't always be cruising in warm places . A cool thing to do is to convert it to a drip dresel heater , wouldn't be that hard to do 👍
A stove like that will be nice but a gas stove on a gimbal may be an inevitability when it comes to sailing round the world. Enjoy cooking on that while crossing the Atlantic! Samson post looks beautiful!
Great to hear you learned about how to remove/replace the copper rivet(s) to change out a plank. Would suck to be the guy on the outside with the crowbar at sea or on the reef. ;-) Also the Acorn/Oak vs Cedar to Arabella makes a synchronicity, no?
The C clamp GoPro mount fix was brilliant!
This is not a low point. This is the moment when you have a crystal clear plan, for how to move forward, knowing you will be happy with the result. Major progress. Thumbs Up!
I'm actually much more hopeful for their success now, than when we were seeing them struggle with the Cedar
I agree. They should not consider this a low point. The final hull will be stronger because it has extra oak in it. And an inflexible plan could be a disaster later if pine planks split too easily.
Just keep in mind, "Nothing built too strong ever broke", according to Tom Lipton.
What a wonderful, positive thing to say.. I couldn't agree more...
Yes!!!
The Smoke problem on the "shipmate stove" is because of a cold plug in the chimney.
A crumpled up sheet of newspaper lit directly under the chimney pipe will push the cold plug out, eliminating the smoke problem at light up.
Yes - and take a 2 ft of the chimney - Problem solved
this needs more upvotes. the first thing you have to do autumn to spring in my family's log cabin. pop a couple of pages form a newspaper and light it up. especially during winter when the cold air pushes down in the chimney and pushes the smoke into the cabin.
Ok, Dumb Aussie here so I was thinking that the cold plug was an actual physical object.
Correct me if I'm wrong but what you are talking about is cold air within the chimney and it being heavier than the initial little puff of warm air from the fire.
Thus the newspaper lit gives a nice big "wad" of light warn/hot air that is enough to lift the cold air in the chimney and thus get the draw working.
Is this basically what you are saying?
@@petert3355 Yes
My Dad always did this when building a fire in the fireplace "to start the draft working." Later, I envisioned it as creating some inertia up the chimney.
With that background, I REALLY like your explanation!! Thanks for awakening a fond memory.
As a former owner of a few cedar boats I can say that they ride great in the water but do not hold up well to a lot of bumps and bruises. Cracked a few planks on simple docking mishaps so the fact you are going with oak is awesome.
I love the split screen: Explanation on the left, actually carrying it out in the right. Makes it much easier to actually understand the explanation. As always, I also love how you explain yourself and lay out a plan, Stephen.
Live oak is gorgeous. That post is great. Best anchor and mooring foundation ever.
Ya know... You guys have had some tough times lately. The Cedar Dreams tuned into nightmares - and the Global Plague struck us all. But seeing you think, adjust, plan, and "retool" has been a real inspiration - for me, and everyone following the odyssey of Arabella. Watching you guys is a high-point in my week. Keep up the Spirit and Good work.
I hope you know how much we respect you and admire your work.
70 and sunny, here in portugal.keep up the good work. BETTER DAYS WILL COME!!!!
I have deep respect for you guys in choosing to delete the cedar planks and write off all of that effort to do an optimum job with the oak. I think that you are already master boat builders and I look forward to seeing the end product. Cheers
Ironic that you and Leo both had to back-track at the same time due to wood issues - your cedar below the water line and Leo discovering oak deck beams that appeared to be red oak rather than white oak. Both good to find now rather than at sea. This is called learning. All the best going forward.
The grain in that live oak is absolutely gorgeous! That just might be the most beautiful individual piece in the boat so far. Great that the reverse progress is past you and you have forward momentum again. Keep up the great work guys. You will get there.
You hit a low point but rebounded nicely. So much eye candy in this segment; that beautiful planner in action, that awesome stove and the gorgeous oak grain in that sampson post. You know, there are many woodworkers who pay good money for quarter sawn white oak. What looks like scrap to you looks like a beautiful picture frame to someone else.
The true measure of competence is when things go wrong. This shipbuilding effort has almost every kind of problem that is possibole and Steves ability to improvise and make GOOD important decisions on the fly shows that he has become a master shipwrite as to hi9s mindset and ability to mkake the best of every good and bad thing that happens. When things go right, it is possible to just "connect the dots", but when you have to improvise, that is the test for what you really know about the project. Congratulations!
Big thanks to Aaron, really grateful for him helping you guys out with the project :)
Don't feel bad about removing the cedar planks. If you really want to explore out out of the way places, the oak planks below the water line will give you peace of mind. Great videos. I like your new go pro clamp, very functional for a boat builder.
I like the new casual style with the update, explain, voice over. A lot of us land locked sailors rooting for ya.
I love how you leave the camera attached to the mount while you work on it. That's awesome.
Hi, you are making the right decision. Better deal with the pain now and sail with confidence later. It would be nice to hear some news from Alix.
Had one of those shipmates. Delightful memories, and I still have the beachcomber eye for little firewoods. An hour with a gunny sack always gave enough for a couple rainy days. Good times.
You guys really roll with the punches! Keep up the good spirits and work!
I think what this teaches all of us is that creating something worthwhile takes a whole lot of blood, sweat and tears 😭. The cost is significant but the rewards are enormous.
I know how frustrating it is to make hard won progress, then find out it wasn't progress, but guys, I can't begin to tell you how absolutely thrilled I am that went back to oak below the waterline. Honestly, I'd love to see you go oak all the way to sheer line. Granted, below w.l. is most important, and you have a limited supply of oak. For my vote, for what it doesn't mean to you the builders, stronger is better always.
"The plank can get wet, that is not a problem." My favorite quote from this episode.
Dear lonely acorn and acorns guest.
👍👌👏 Simply fantastic again and as always. Very well done, Sirs, Congrats!
It was definitely the right decision to use stabil oak for all planking (although it hurt a bit to take off the cedar planks). A very similar wood problem decision thing happened to great Leo with Tally Ho project. Like you he decided that to be on the safe side is worth the additional effort.
Now I will watch the canoeing.
Thanks a lot for making teaching recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health to all of you.
The transformation of a Ship MATE ! What an awesome stove.
I really liked seeing all the little side projects. Nice topical variety.
Ha, ha, when I saw it in a picture on Facebook it looked huge, it this vid it looks like for a doll house
Glad you are changing the planking to oak. Bit of a set back but small step back then forward with a better and more reliable quality. Only way is up!
Stephen you are an eternal optimist, I abhor re-doing work! And at 35 you are a hell of a man keep moving ahead on so you can enjoy the sailing adventure.
Franken-Clamp. Not the clamp you wanted, but it IS the clamp you needed!!
I love what you have done to the stove. It looks gorgeous!
Your choice to abandon the Cedar planks sounds like it was a good one. Nothing would be worse than knocking a hole in that lovely ship at some remote anchorage in the middle of nowhere. The Oak planking will put up with more abuse than you are likely to be willing to throw at her and that is what you want. You want to be the one tossing in the towel before your ship does!
This will just be one of your better stories to tell when you are off on your adventures. Fixing a mistake is the sign of a true craftsman. You are building a better boat than you were a couple of weeks ago -- be proud of that 😊
Oak is mo betta, it kinda sucks that the other wood didn't work out but live and learn. Happy to see your moving forward, cheers
Thank you once again. A pleasurable half hour spent.
As I say, life sucks then you live some more. Great job. Mistakes or wrong decisions can always be fixed. Love to watch you accomplish so much.
It's hard to stop and backtrack when you've already put in so much work. But it's far worse to keep moving forward with what you know is a weaker plan. You made the right call. And while it may hurt for a minute, you'll be glad you made the change when you did after it's finished.
"I don't think I'm gonna break this clamp" famous last words
Feel sorry that you have to take off the Cedar planks and lose any progress you made but looks like the right decision and we all have learning curves in many projects over the years, I am really old and I still have them so don't be discouraged, I know you would have a a lot more help if not for Covid19, that Erin is a awsum help and encouragement, give him my compliments
Without a doubt you guys made the right decision.
Congratulations guys. It's always important to push through the low points, and like you say, get some tangible "wins".
Two for the price of one vids today, great. There is nothing wrong with changing the plan, and you have only lost 3 planks; which is nothing in the great big scheme of things. Love the stove. Keep well.
Look at her shape @3:39 Your boat is beautiful. We all love what you are doing.
Yay! My Friday nights entertainment her in Australia. Thanks guys!
half day entertainment here in South Africa.
We wait and watch it with Brekky Saturday Morning
A great learning experience. At least now you can build a "rivot repair tool box" to keep on the boat, and not have to scrounge for the right tools when that time comes.
Great video guys. That Sampson post looks like a piece of furniture. Beautiful grain and color. Nice restoration on the little shipmate stove. Will you be using coal or wood when cruising? With all of the oak drop off you should have fuel for about two years if you can find a way to carry it (lol). Maybe a small fuel dinghy to tow along. Take care, stay well and have a good week.
A my ranch we heat with wood stoves all winter (Snow). And wood is the only fuel that heats you twice...first when you split it then second when you burn it. But for keeping a cast iron stove looking good nothing beats Stove Polish (Amazon $8.50). I've restored a couple of cast iron stoves with a 4" wire wheel and a lot of stove polish.
Thank you for sharing your journey with us. Friday morning is now the highlight of my week.
I just had to pause at 5:37 to send off a donation to help you (a little) to get over this hump. I am in awe of how you (all) keep going. I hope to witness Arabella's launch. Maybe in person if I can be as spry as your Grandpa.
a souvenir / fund raising opportunity - cedar planks - showing rivet holes or not - as cooking planks, or scented moth repellent? Maybe brand your logo on each? Sell them like the rivets.
gm Steve, the stove looks great. it will be nice on chilly raw days. Try making a cover that encloses all the rings. when the stove starts to draw, it should suck air and smoke trapped back thru the stove and out. all looks good and great weather for Memorial day weekend. Have fun
I think this is one of the better decisions you guys have made.
A somewhat ironic silver lining: Imagine how many planks you'd be removing if the planking party had happened as planned! You are on the road to long term success. I hope the satisfaction of 'doing it right' was enough sugar to help the bitter pill of reconstruction less painful to swallow.
Another fine episode. And a tip of the hat to editor Ben: The split screens are very effective. 👍
Hi, was watching Engels coach shop 's last upload about 10 do' s or don't about steaming wood. Surprise, surprise... #1 Always use deciduous trees. Coniferous is a no-no. Hope this helps. Love your series! Been watching since beginning.
Happy Birthday to you, from Northern Germany-
Congratulations for the right decisions. Just doing some beautiful work is very important.
Nice restored oven and live Oak post.
Can't wait till canoeing here...
Love the go pro holder fix ☺️
Your 'new' GoPro mount is brilliant - I'm looking forward to seeing what angles you can bring us with it as well!
Thanks for posting and sharing. That stove looks great!
Frankenmount. Wicked good. 🇨🇦
Probably a good idea about the oak planks. You guys take care of yourselves.
It is after all the first time you've built a boat in your front yard! Things have gone pretty well so far!! Good luck with the rest of the build!
Great video.. excellent as far as understanding what your both saying and the process is well explained and easy to follow what your doing.
congratulations ! Arabelia is now your own, Custom creation, carry on lads. 8-)
Keep your heads up boys, it will all be worth it in the end. Keep up the amazing work.
Got my rivets yesterday, thanks for the stickers. I like the "A2A" stamp.
Amazing progress Steven , even with the weather and the crappy cedar. You must be so happy to be back working with the oak. The live oak does look a lot nicer than white oak or even red oak. Have a great weekend
I'm really impressed with the quality of filming even with Alix gone. Seems like you're really getting the hang of it
Not sure I agree. It's good enough in my view, but not as good as it was.
Better to drop back and regroup at the right time than to keep pushing down the wrong path. Looking good!
Stay optimistic, your project is wonderful and despite setbacks, it gives lots of us so much pleasure to watch!!
(Ironically, Leo and the Tally Ho crew hit a setback recently too with porous Oak!)
Loving that low-tech, over-engineered GoPro clamp! Excellent work! :-)
That cedar plank that snapped was a direct message from “someone” watching over you, saving you from future heartbreak. Great move going back to oak.
Thanks for sharing. Love your stove, it reminds me of my grand mothers kitchen stove when I was very young.
Ah, Lads, I'm gutted for you, but this is the right thing and you are making good choices. Stay strong!
That was a great watch. Well done for having the grit and determination to work through the issues. That Samson post looks amazing!
For sealing up the rings lookup up - Black Stove Fire Rope. This might do the trick for you, used a lot on Ranges and stoves, especially on the doors to seal them up.
May I please recommend Ian Smith Boats channel which deserves a much wider audience. An experienced boat builder in Sydney, Australia, he is building a 24 foot wooden sailing boat as his retirement project. Episode 8, Carvel Planking is particularly relevant and his presentation style is informative and concise. He follows your preferred method of planking progressively from keel to sheer and scarf jointing of the planks although he does these on the boat.
Something to bear in mind if/when making changes to designs - sometimes assemblies were deliberately desgined not to be as strong as they could be, so in a failure event (especially a cascading failure) something relatively minor would fail, rather than something really major. I leaned this a while back (at the pub, of course) talking to a guy who was building WWI aircraft from plans. The story goes they made a bunch of changes making things 'stronger' and in turn snapped an interplane strut (Important!) rather than a shackle mount (less important) on a test flight.
Love your work, love your videos, keep up the good work.
That is a famous story amongst aerospace engineers - the flight corps wanted to make the wings stronger, but they changed the natural frequencies of the wing and caused it "flutter" and snap at the root. Same principal as what destroyed the Tacoma Narrows bridge :)
Ha! Cool, I love the Frankenmount for the gopro!
Congrats, Stephen. You just invented a device that every film-maker in the world is going to want, now. C-clamp magic arm!
Crossed my mind that thicknessing the oak 10%-15% thinner is going to save you substantial weight, be easier to handle, bend etc. , and still be stronger than the cedar . Could transition through one board to keep faired lines...... just a thought.
I was going to ask the same question. They already mentioned that the oak above the water line was going to add 700 pounds, in the grand scheme of a boat with that design and hull shape an additional 700 pounds is nothing (but I'm no Naval Architect). How much thinner can the topsides planks be? I'm with you, at least -15% but maybe even -25%.
@@ralphgesler5110 I saw the video, how do you think I'd know about the extra calculated 700 lbs? I also know, being in the industry, that most impact damage is above the waterline, so I think the cedar is still a bad idea anywhere in the planking after the sledge hammer impact tests. The Western Red Cedar that I'm more familiar with, and even Yellow Cedar, seems like a better choice but I've never whacked it with a sledge hammer to know for sure.
Had a similar reply last time. The iak has twice the strength and twice the crush resistance as cedar. They could theoretically gradually move to a thickness about 1/2 the cedar and plank to the shear with oak without a significant increase in weight above the water line. It would slightly change the shape but unnoticeably. If you don't want the inferior materials below the water line, I don't think you'll want them above the water line. Not all cedar was created equal.
How would thinning the planks affect the the plank-to-plank butt joints of this carvel planked boat? It would reduce the amount of surface area in contact at each butt joint. I would want to know how that might affect the ultimate "caulk-ability" and general water tightness of the seal. This isn't only a question of wood swelling as it hydrates, although thinner planks would dry out faster and planks near the water line would tend to do more wet-dry-wet cycling, which couldn't be good for the caulking. It is also a question of the accuracy and smoothness with which they cut the edge bevels. Does more surface area at the butt joint provide extra margin for sealing, or actually impede sealing?
Ceder is useless for anything , trust me
If this is the extent of your backwards progress you are in great shape.
Thanks for the video Arabella looking good. Glad you are making her all Oak planking. Could you use the Cedar for the inside? Maybe sell your Wood Chips as HORSE Bedding! Thanks take Care
Today is a good day, Two vids from Steve thank you, Oh, that oak post is some stunning wood.
I have absolutely loved watching these guys build this boat. There was just something about them touching and trying to read each piece of wood and the processes that almost made Arabella seem invulnerable.
I know nothing about the characteristics of wood. Much less the characteristics necessary for a sailing vessel.
I’m 72 years old and in an early time of my life I cut and hand split oak and other woods for a stove to heat my home. Besides red oak and white oak I cut and split maple, gum, (not for long! ) and other local hardwoods.also cut down a fair number of pines.
Also had an occasion to cut down two North Carolina red cedars in the front yard of my river house and give the stumps to a friend to carve.
So when they started talking about switching to cedar and especially when I saw the first plank it immediately just seemed real wrong to me??Again I’m just a local yokel who cut his own firewood. That’s the depth and breath of my experiences. But it did not feel right.
Sure am glad they’ve switched back to oak or something other than cedar..
It had to be a tough decision. Bravo!
Hey guys, you’re doing well. A small silver lining in the cedar debacle is that my rivet should arrive soon.
If I may, Cast iron is best treated with cooking oil, peanut or sunflower. It smells better and will give a nice coating. And once it's in the boat, wiping it down with cooking is safer as well.
Hahah that mount solution is just epic
Chin up guys, haven't seen you have many issues which is amazing to say you've taken on such big build
You're doing a great job with the videos in Alix's absence!
Good choices made and a clear and safe path forward. Good job! :-)
I know it might seem depressing, but ultimately what you said in the last video is what's right, and that is, at night on the boat, you'll sleep like a baby (boat rocking not accounted for). I think it's the right call, among the species' own standards, those pieces you have are behaving odly. Both in the snapping and hammering (tho i knew the test as a press break test). Keep on going, you're on the right path.
Stove really shows the amount of time and working knowledge of what it takes to make a beautiful patina.
Your cost was minimal, now it is a priceless piece of work that will last for years to come. Well done.
So any updates from Alix?
Oh and Stephen, you are doing a great job putting the videos together.
Cheers mate!
Love your vids. One suggestion I had was to plank a longer section in the middle and have shorter pieces on the end where there is more twist.
That's a lovely burner, will make things really cosy. Been around wood burners all my life and never heard of putting kerosene on them. I've always used stove blacking, will give paraffin ( English equivalent of kerosene) a try. Gotta be better than blacking which is well messy. BTW, if you reduce the stove pipe size I would have thought the stove would smoke more - more back pressure. I'd recommend getting to know your burner first before fitting a smaller pipe, burners are affected by wind, nearby objects etc, etc.; every one has it's own idiosyncrasies and personality. Apologies if you know all this.
Lastly, although taking off the Cedar must have been a bummer, it's best to sort things your not happy with, it'd have just bugged you else. Thanks for another grand video.....DA.
Loving the relaxing lil’ but at the end 💜
Love that Live oak!
Yeah, that's a gorgeous chunk of wood!
Yes you figured out the proper way to remove rivets. Center punch center of rivet head then drill off the head ONLY. then use punch to drive out shank. oh and I fell in love with you SHIPMATE STOVE
Beautiful stove you got there, I like it.
I had that exact model stove onboard my 40 ft sailboat . Used for two Winters and found that the dry heat kept the boat and stuff nice , but it was very dirty with Ash and easily could smoke you out . Also had to remove the outside chimney everytime I went sailing . Mine ended up a conversation piece and storage , but on the east coast you will need heat to live aboard and you won't always be cruising in warm places . A cool thing to do is to convert it to a drip dresel heater , wouldn't be that hard to do 👍
A stove like that will be nice but a gas stove on a gimbal may be an inevitability when it comes to sailing round the world. Enjoy cooking on that while crossing the Atlantic! Samson post looks beautiful!
Great to hear you learned about how to remove/replace the copper rivet(s) to change out a plank. Would suck to be the guy on the outside with the crowbar at sea or on the reef. ;-)
Also the Acorn/Oak vs Cedar to Arabella makes a synchronicity, no?
Centering drill bits are helpful.
Get a nice big salmon and save one of the planks. Cedar plank salmon with steamed vegetables. Riveting!