Let's Compare ( Black Tiger )
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Arcade 0:29
ZX Spectrum 2:57
Amstrad 5:05
Commodore 64 7:04
Atari ST 9:33
Amiga 11:56
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Black Tiger, known in Japan as Black Dragon (Japanese: ブラックドラゴン Hepburn: Burakku Doragon?), is a 1987 platform game released for the arcades by Capcom.
A barbarian hero jumps and fights his way through a variety of colourful, enemy-packed levels in this spiritual successor to the Capcom classic Ghosts 'n Goblins. The sprawling, eight-way scrolling, two-dimensional levels are packed with hidden bonuses to encourage and reward exploration. Most of these bonuses are in the form of 'Zenny coins'; currency that allows the player to buy such items as an upgrade to their weapons and armour, keys for treasure chests, and anti-poisoning potions. Special items that reveal coins, upgraded armour, full vitality, extra lives, extra time, or simply bonus points may be found by attacking certain walls.
The Japanese version has a few changes that makes it more challenging than its American counterpart. Several of the "falling rock" obstacles were added in this version. Additionally, the prices of many of the items are higher. But perhaps the biggest difference is related to fighting the later bosses (the 3 dragons and the dual sword-wielding foes at the end of stages 5 and 7). In the American version, it is possible to duck and avoid taking damage when the bosses touch the player's character as long as one of their projectiles does not hit him. In the Japanese version, the player is not able to do this.
one of my favorite musical scores in video games, Black Tiger!
the arcade version, that is!
It's always amusing how the composers for the c64 rarely if ever stuck to the theme of the source material. Sometimes it was so different that it sounded like it was made for an entirely different game and just slapped on.
The SID sound chip was really inspiring and made a really out of the box generation of musicians
i love this game!!
Same here, I could finish the entire game on a single life. And this on Black Dragon, the Japanese version after the café owner had the dip switches set to hard because I was taking away his business :) Still enjoying playing this on MAME but I need arcade joysticks! (Rygar was my other fave)
I didn't know this game was on the Capcom Classics Collection II. Doesn't look to be that spectacular so maybe that's why I never noticed it. It's hard to believe that you can still lose a fight with your guy having such mad skills to be able to throw almost 10 knives and whip a gigantic morning star all at the same time. Only with Capcom is this possible.
I didn't even know the ZX had a version!
Spectrum basically had a version of anything back then...
Aw bles the Spectrum. It really didn't have the power for this type of port but that didn't stop them.
I'm really surprised this was not converted to any consoles.
I had completely forgotten about this game. Also had no idea it had been ported to any system. Thanks for the "heads up" by making this vid. Definitely a cool game and the Atari ST and Amiga ports are amazing. I'm shocked the Speccy was able to do one for a game like this at all.
Will be putting a copy of this on a floppy and giving it a spin on my ST today.
A Mega Drive port would have been awesome in the "SEGA reprogrammed games" serie!
I finished this game with 1CC... in 1990, then I was ten years old, many folks in my block used to finish this game, because we memorized all the levels (secrets lives and traps) People used to watch others playing a lot, so we had to wait a lot, you know turns! now I can't beat it with 1CC 🤣🤣🤣
atari st conversion is really well done.
I love these comparison videos. Thanks for making this!
YW ! I hope you continue to enjoy this channel for years to come.. :) Thank You.
and i loved all the hidden items in the wall... there disappeared in the ports
I like the Original Arcade Version. It's Music sounds like it was made for the Genesis
This a perfect example of the "Home ports must be inferior to the arcade version" rule in action. Even when given hardware that is equal or possibly even superior to what the original machine ran on, companies always make the home port inferior to the arcade machine. Maybe it's not true any more, but it certainly was back in the 80s and even the 90s.
There's no valid reason that the Amiga couldn't have handled an arcade-perfect port.
Would love to see the mega rare NES port.
C64 has the best music for sure
on arcade, my favorite game of all time... shame the ports of the different machines were never on par with the original game.
The C64-version is actually a multi-sid game. It sounds amazing and is just as playable as the arcade.
I do agree though that the Commodore color-palette is a bit to limited to do the Black Dragon justice.
However, it is my favourite version out of the ones I´ve played (Amiga, C64, Arcade)
I guess I´m not in the majority there, but I´m a sucker for SID´s so...
This could've worked well on MD, or even the SMS.
I love this game! It one of those games where I could play for 20 minutes on just one quarter. Good Stuff. Too bad the NES port was cancelled and no other console ports exist. :(
exist a unrelease nes version, but is a mistery this game, only exist a screen very blurry
ps: is a great game in arcade
I remember seeing it in a Sears Catalog back in the day.
I prefer the Atari ST version. Sounds crispier to me.
Amongst the home ports, the C64 version is the most smooth and playable.
Amiga and ST are graphically impressive (the palette choice is even better than the arcade), but the very low frame-rate ruins the gameplay.
That's true, it's the only version that have a decent framerate and good playability. But their graphics was underated for this machine. It's more capable than that, between all this bad ports of the game, it's the less bad.
they released an arcade perfect version on a playstation 2 compilation. even playstation 1 or sega saturn i think (it was called capcom generations i believe)
No, black tiger was on no capcom generations, neither on PSX nor Saturn.
tatsujincorp then capcom classics arcade collection. i have a video of it running on a PSP on my channel. the same version was available for sale on ps2
that's about right :)
concur 2 times. mine was a fish and chip shop tho
agreed 100% !
muy buen video
+Jordi Gallego Gracias !
amstrad looks like a console version of a gameboy
Wonder why they went for those huge graphics on the Speccy? C64 all the way for this.
Sadly the amiga version wasn't optimized at all for this platform, they just made a fast port from the atari st! It's a shame.
But they were happy enough with the result... But if they really used amiga blitter etc.. blacktiger animation should have been smooth but they were lazy or they hadn't enough time left by the publisher ?????
no NES port? looks like they missed the boat on this 1
Music by TAMAYO KAWAMOTO!
The C=64 port seems the best.
Thanks for another great compare video!
Not that I particularly like the C64 version but it was certainly made worse by sticking in some c64 sounding music. The Arcade soundtrack needed to have been ported as it's bloody brilliant
Spectrum is OK but cpc is a spectrum port..
Atari and Amiga sucks balls, damn you USGold.
C64 is the best I think.
Amstrad deserved a lot better, Amiga too...
The amiga version is the ST version with I/O changed (display routine, joystick control, etc). Uncomprehensible that the coder used the arcade level data, and locked the game as 16 colors on amiga with NO custom chip use at all ! Everything is done in software (how retarded !), that's the main reason about the slugginess. there are amiga games using more sprite frames and more colors than on this game. Totally shameless, and the worst is that the coder was certainly not a crap programmer, far from that. He just took the ST way, which was as wrong as possible for coin-op conversions.
He should had also changed one thing on the computer port : instead of having the whole level in RAM, which means that you lose colors in number in order to support all parts, he should have put in RAM only the part where the player was actually in, with multiloading. Oh well, it's too late now.
maybe not if someone crazy enough want to rewrite it, for the glory at this point but better than nothing
Yeah, it's a case of shitty port atari->amiga (and the atari verson isn't a blockbuster, the atari can do it better). In fact seems as the amiga version is a very little slower than the Atari one (that isn't fast). No OCS at all, nothing of using the blitter, nothing of using the special sound capabities of AMIGA.
That's amusing that someone was paided for making this port.
Basically, the Amiga is running the ST code with no enhancements at all. I did a code compare, it's 85% the same as the ST code. So yep, the Amiga is not used at all, the colors are just awfull (those arcade games can't be made in 16 colors and be ok). You need at least 32 if not 64 colors to make the game look ok (the original use 256 colors !)
The spetrum was decent for its lilations but the Amstread version looks CRAPPY for a better system. Decent music on the C-64 but the tiny graphics dont work well. The Amiga looks Boss as always but wheres the music?? NO the PS2 version was the best.as it was a faithful port.
rank:
1° Arcade
2° Amiga (a little less slow than atari)
3° Atari ST (too slow)
4° Commodore 64 (too tiny objects and bad graphics)
5° Amstrad CPC (same as the spectrum but this at least have music)
6° Zx Spectrum (very awful)
amiga version 10 fps.
clay pots = most powerfull enemy in the game
C64 wins due to the sweet SID tunes.
Poor conversion all round. The Amiga version is just a straight ST port which insults the hardware, the Amstrad and Spectrum versions don't look at all playable, and the C64 version is visually dull with a very short looping tune. Very lazy, rushed ports.
Amiga version, god awful Atari St port. The Amiga had hardware scrolling for christs sake! At least th C64 version was smooth!
The Amiga port sucks. No music, plus it's slow and choppy. The Amiga could have done so much better.
zx spectrum awful version