An Octave Exercise - Jeffrey Biegel
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The prolific concert artist and sought-after teacher Jeffrey Biegel demonstrates the octave exercises devised by his former Juilliard teacher, the late Adele Marcus.
Carrying on the legacy of Marcus’s teacher, the luminary 20th-century pianist Josef Lhévinne, Biegel tailors the exercises to his own technique and shows you how to do the same. Do the exercises work? Take a look at Biegel’s scintillating octaves and see for yourself.
1:44 Wrist exercise
4:15 Shape of the hand
5:58 Add-on technique
7:43 Posture
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Jeffery was born to play octaves.He gave me an effortless accompaniment in the two piano form of Samuel Barber's Piano Concerto 20 years ago in Southhampton, L.I. New York.
You played the Barber concerto incredibly! It was an honor to be your "orchestra"! The great challenge was learning the orchestra part as a piano reduction. Great learning experience for me. Hope you are well, my friend!
Jeff is not only a great musician, he is a wonderful human being.
Believe me, this video just so magical, just follow what he does, your octave getting much better suddenly! Really thanks to Mr biegel!
Wow I am blown backwards from the kindness and openness of this nice musician! I want to practice more now ❤
Thanks so much being researching on staccato octaves...this is the best and most clear advice ive found.
Magnificent tutelage here ! Wow!!! Just the little bit he said about Adele Marcus and the rounding circular octaves in EM section of Chopin Polonaise (formed an image in my body-mind ) already I can do that repeating passage ! Wow . Teaching is everything but it is also words , experience , mind -image , relaxation , open hand . This did more for me than entire books read alone . Westwood's book on mastering Chopin etudes working with torso , breathing ,arm as extension of entire body and reinforcement also miracles of explanation and tutoring . Now to liszt Hungarian No.9 . Argerich's Funerailles and elsewhere seems she was born knowing this it seems !
The best tips for octaves I have ever heard! I am so thankful for you.
Thank you very much for the advice, have spent 5 minutes practicing the wrist movements and it’s already made a big difference x
One of the most useful video ever.
Great suggestions and video. Thank you!
That’s a great exercise . Thanks for sharing ♥️🙏👍
This is so enlightening. Thanks
Thanks, Jeff! i’ve been wondering how to make octaves easier. This seems to be the key!
Awesome!!! Thanks!!!
Thank you Sir🙌🏼🙌🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
A superb lesson. Thank you ))). I will follow. I am working on the fast octaves in Schubert's Erlkönig rendered for solo piano by Liszt. I do not know if I will ever achieve the necessary speed and relaxness and stamina, but without exercising, it will never be. It blows me away when watching Yuya Wang playing it.
So very helpful, and clearly communicated. Thanks for posting!
3 4 5 on the sharp top note! Yes! Thanks
I’m a drummer and this is very much like the modeler technique.. Thos is brilliant
Excellent
I admired how you played the endless left hand octaves pattern without getting tired on Keith Emerson's Piano Concerto . Thank you for the valuable information, I'll try it on the Chopin Revolutionary etude op 10 no 12. Hi from Veronica
Great!
You go gurl yass
Nice!
This is abolut phantastic.
Great advice
No entiendo él idioma pero la música es el idioma universal que agilidad
Could anyone explain why 3rd 4 th and 5th finger together on one key while playing black note octaves?
small hand people looking at this -_-
I can't take him seriously after watching him play PDQ Bach concerto 🤣
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"everybody has a hand and everybody has a wrist."
Was I the only one to check if I had the video playing at 2x speed when he started playing octaves?
I think U could hurt your wrists using this method.
Hmm not sure there is really something helpful here. From what he played in this video, he can do octaves as fast as any other pro pianist, so nothing exceptional which would require any secrets. For example I would listen to Pogorelich if he was to reveal how he practiced his octaves from Schumann's toccata, as he plays them twice faster than any other.
Then the advice to work them using short rendering in the piece, that's opposite to what Neuhaus wrote in his "Art of playing the piano". He said to never practice your technique on pieces, by little chunks, special rythmes or anything like that because then you will never be able to play them musically again. So basically you have to invent your exercises for every new piece you start.
The technique %100 pro cent wrong, this technique ended to have “Carpool tunnel Syndrome”. I don’t recommend to any one to use this technique. I studied the piano in three county with well none professors.
I totally agree with you. What is you solution or suggestion to practice octaves safely?
KlangFirmament Before I tell you how any one to practice the octave that not injured him, her self, I have to explain the most important technique from four countries that all around the world using one them. Russia, French, Italy and Germany. Each of these country using different technique for octave, unfortunately each one them has good and week part. But since I studied with five professor from all four country plus my country, after 52 years of study and teaching in three country, I have my own unick technique.
First. If you dive your hand in four parts, from finger tips to wrist joine, from wrist joined to elbow and from elbow to shoulder, you have four different part that you can use for dynamique, rotation, movement. If you put the pressure from finger you can play pianissimo, if your pressure comes from wirst, you can play piano, and mezzo piano, if your pressure comes from elbow, you can play mezzo forte and finally if the pressure comes from the shoulder the sound is forte and fortissimo. With this simple technique you can easily make beautiful crescendo and decrescendo.
Octave and tremolo, never play octave using you wrist by the time you moving your wrist you will get corpul tonel problem, use for arm from elbow with the curved finger and first and fifth finger on one line. You stretch your hand to the piano than bring up your hand make a circle like a tier when the curved finger come on the piano keys you will touch piano, it might your hand get tired but after one or two days will goes a way. Practice with metronome 60 one note also practice one hand. Please remember don't practice two hands until you can practice Metronome around 90 one beat.
Good luck.
You obviously don’t understand what he’s teaching. The Llevhinnes were experts at technique and produced a great number of famous pianists. That motion does not create carpal tunnel. He’s demonstrating the wrist snap to exaggerate the movement. He doesn’t mean for the student to do that motion every time they play an octave. When he demonstrates very fast octaves the movement is minimized to a vibration. If a student gets carpal tunnel from that it’s because their hands are weak and they play with a lot of tension. FYI Horowitz could have never played his spectacularly rapid fire octaves without wrist motion. 😬
Do you have any idea who you’re criticizing?!!! Jeffrey Biegel has more piano technique in every facet than all of your “well-known professors” put together. He can sight-read perfectly and in tempo practically any piece of music put in front of him-no matter the complexity, and he has never had any playing-related physical injuries or conditions in his life. While every pianist must make technique an individualized study based upon their own physical attributes, there is certainly nobody better qualified to teach piano technique than Jeffrey Biegel.
@@lyrianmusic couldn’t have said it better myself!