The Darkest Wrestling Lost Media [Vol. 1]
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Lost media is a topic that has always been of great interest to me. Pieces of media, that have been lost to time, going unarchived. From lost SpongeBob episodes, to strange or obscure commercials to video games that were pulled from shelves. But in the world of lost media, exists pieces of media that were lost for a reason… they were lost on purpose. Today we’re going to be discussing a few of those cases that exist in the world of wrestling. Wrestling footage, matches, and moments that were erased all for varying reasons…and all for good reason.
Video title: The Darkest Wrestling Lost Media [Vol. 1]
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Benoit originally being on the cover for SVR2008 makes complete sense. On the weekend the murder-suicide happened, he was supposed to win the ECW Championship from CM Punk and become the face of that brand. If you remember SVR had Lashley on the cover represented ECW.
It would also track with Cena and Undertaker, as they were either champions or challenging for their respective brands main titles at the time.
@@freakfoxvevo7915that was his point, buddy.
@@freakfoxvevo7915yeah thats the point, he was put there because the tragedy where Benoit was supposed to represent ECW in the cover
damn bruh thxs for this comment i rlly didn’t know benoit was the original cover artist but the murder suicid made me sad until i found out what he did
I think what makes the Misawa story that much more tragic is when you hear that when he heard Misawa died, Toshiaki Kawada, his greatest rival throughout his career retired immediately.
Obviously thats tragic on the real level, like he retired because someone who was probably his friend backstage died, but even on a Kayfabe level, you imagine a heel character like Kawada getting the news that his greatest rival has died in the ring, the only man who could ever give him real fight was gone, and he retires immediately, because he knows theres no one else who can challenge him.
It's like that episode of Batman where The Joker hears that Batman might be dead, and he goes to commit a robbery, and when Batman never shows up, he puts everything back and says without Batman, it just isn't fun anymore.
I remember Jim Cornette saying back in the early 80’s, the NWA would re-record over previous episodes on tapes to save money. And after WCW acquired NWA he was leaving the Greensboro office one evening and found a garbage can full of old tapes on his way home. It’s sad how much we probably lost.
That is a shame, imagine all the great matchups and segments from the early 80s NWA that are now lost to time.
Yeah I've heard many instances of tapes being recorded over to save some money back in the territory days especially
@@johnselwitz5362I believe Cornette took the tapes... He does have a wrestling tape library that is up there with WWE's...
@@ezstreete You have no idea how much I’d love to take a tour of Cornette’s house just to see his tape library and all the cool wrestling memorabilia he’s collected throughout the decades.
Considering NWA TV was always made on a budget, I'm not surprised. It was common practice in TV up to the early 80s. It's shocking how many lost episodes there are even of pretty iconic TV shows. Even Dr. Who has a ton of lost episodes. Granted I'd much rather watch old NWA than Dr. Who, but that was a big budget production from one of the biggest broadcasters in the world at that time.
Misawa was that rare type of dude that would do magazine interviews gushing about nerdy shit like Pokemon and Fire Emblem games, and then hit the ring and be an absolute badass. Whenever you see some boomer claim that video games made modern wrestlers soft just ask them how they feel about Misawa and watch them shut the fuck up with the quickness. RIP to the legend, there will never be another Misawa.
I was at All Star Extravaganza III right after he died and some of his students put on a legendary match that night. They gave him a ten-bell salute before the event.
A lovely thing to know is that Asuka follows the same path!
Lol, they are soft for other reasons. They constantly cry and bitch, call everything "stiff" and act like, well like what they are: Whiny millennial and Gen Z losers. If they had to take a worked chop from Misawa they'd be in the hospital for a month probably.
I was there at Glory by Honor when he was there, and seeing him in person, he just had this aura about him, it's impossible to describe.
I've met a lot of pretty famous wrestlers before (at least 2 I can think of off the top of my head later become world champions in WWE) and have never been star struck, but with Misawa it was just different. Even outside of the ring, he just carried himself like a real champion, and it just felt like he could crush you with a thought.
Exceptions don’t change the rule.
Benoit's outline of the flying headbutt was used for the high flyer logo in 08 which is weird.
Damn
I believe that THQ didn’t even bother removing it since the logo could have represented any high-flyer.
Bless you for being so trusting as to think wrestling fans wouldn't lie for no reason.
Shit!!!smoke still present after that fire comment!!!💯🤣🤣🤣
I still have the Smackdown vs Raw 2006 video game with Chris Benoit in the roster
Seems dumb to throw wrestling fans under the bus call them all liars. There are liars and not liars in every facet of life
@@mikehunyady9076 Good thing I didn't say "all" wrestling fans then.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That “be cool about fire safety” caught me off guard mainly cause I used to watch that video so many times as a kid
So do you be cool?
I cannot think about that sentence or the commercial without Rich Evans showing up in my head now 😂
Red Letter Media ftw 👍
Paul Heyman Said it himself and others did too. He purposely erased the tape because he knew he was getting sued for the fire incident. That's not the only time he has done this.
I was at the ECW fire show. After the lights came back on, everyone was still trying to figure out what was going on. Tommy Dreamer was hanging from the balcony at the top of the arena in a crucified position completely bloodied. It was insane and a night I will never forget.
As far as Benoit being in SvR ‘08, there is some credence to him being planned for the game but dummied out. If he was going to be on the cover, that’d be a weird forethought by THQ/Yuke’s. Cena, Lashley, and Undertaker were their respective brand’s heavyweight champions after Mania 23 in 2007, and Benoit wasn’t scheduled to win the title until June at Vengeance. Given that most of the games operate with a WrestleMania cut-off date for content (particularly pre-DLC era games), it’d be odd for WWE to tip off the publisher two months ahead of a title swap so that the package was up to date, especially considering none of the 3 who were on it were holding their respective titles by release day.
Maybe the reason why svr2008 career mode sucked so much was because he played a big role in the mode so they had to quickly rework it after what happened which is why so many cutscenes were repeated not trying to spread rumors but if there is a prototype out there maybe there is an entire unfinished career mode to.
“You’re playing as a murderer…a real life murderer…how many times can you say that?”
*opens Madden 2000
*plays as Carolina Panthers
*runs opening kickoff back as Rae Carruth
Also Ray Lewis
@@xantastic6301double the murderers, double the cringe…
sadly, the 2010-2012 Patriots teams had three players who murdered or killed people 😢
@@bostonrailfan2427 wow 😬
@@xantastic6301 Aaron Hernandez, the wannabe thug. Dante Stalworth, the drunken driver. and recently Sergio Brown, the mother killer.
The Gamesmaster magazine for May 2007 has SvsR 2008 on the cover also as their first feature of the game, maybe the Info about Benoit is in that one. Also the dates hardly match with these old future magazines as sometimes it can be a month either way from release from the one put on the cover.
If they recalled that magazine, there is still a chance some rare copies of the original print are out there. I think it is kind of strange that benoit wasn't mentioned at all in the article if that version of the article was printed before the murder suicide as he was a main even level star and would likely have played a big role in the game with or without being on the cover.
I can't believe you mentioned the case of goalkeeper Bruno, one of the most famous and brutal murder cases in my country, Brazil, and there is a great history of brutal murders here
I think with the smackdown vs raw 08 Benoit thing can most likely be chalked up to them lying, or if it did happen the game they played was actually svr07 not 08. The likelihood of that demo not showing up is highly improbable by this point
I was thinking that too. Like how tf hasn't the demo popped up yet
@@juelgrace If it does really exist it will be found, look at what happened these last few years with old wwe game builds and demos. We either need to be patient or get confirmation it doesn't exist.
I am sucker for lost media... thank you this was awesome :3
Me too
Youre welcome
Same I love both lost media and wrestling
Shazam with Sinbad is the only lost media Im interested in lol
I'm so happy seeing wrestling in general trying to be more safe. I hate to see wrestlers i love get injured or worse. I want to see them forever not just a few decades
Benoit's moves are STILL used in the games to this day.
They're locked on disc and can't be accessed without a cheat device. The only move of Benoit that's still in the game is his Triple German Suplexes and that's because MVP adopted them and THQ didn't bother changing anything on his character's moveset.
Both Benoit and Misawa's passing hit me hard when it happened. Benoit was my favorite wrestler of all at the time then, and I had the chance to meet him on one rare occasion the then WWF came to my country. It was the best day of my life until he did what he did.
I was also a huge fan of NOAH, mostly of the hard hitting championship main events from when they worked for AJPW. I remember coming back from work and seeing the news of what had happened, and spend the rest of the day glued to the computer waiting for updates on the situation. After he died, it was just hard for me to watch his classic matches with all the head drop spots.
Taskmaster Kevin Sullivan got his revenge
Taz vs Tajiri in ECW where Taz used a barbwire assisted Tazmission…I saw pictures in a magazine and it looked brutal ..always wanted to see that match
It’s on TH-cam and the network.
@@Storeid not from what I can see … it ended with a barbwire assisted Tazmission and Tajiri was all bloody at the end ..gotta link by any chance
I have some wrestling tapes that were taped off of PPV and I am sure they have tons of extra stuff on them(as probably many other people do as well)
I would like to get in touch with someone locally or WWE themselves to preserve the footage on DVD and or digital
as of now I can think of some interesting ones I have
Wrestlemania 20-Theres some footage at the end of Brock VS Goldberg; Austin calls for a beer to be thrown to him but he misses and it nals him right in the face, but he doesnt react and he just catches the next one.
Armageddon 2003-After Batistas match, Flair and his backstage segment is longer where Flair almost trips.
No Way Out 2004-Extended backstage segment with Kurt and Cena
None of that is Special or Unique. Are you Maybe A Newer Fan of Pro Wrestling? Everything you Mentioned is Well known and Has been Seen By Everyone...
it is unique, a lot of stuff on wwe network is edited compared to stuff on tapes@@user-mn5du9te4j
What's gold is having tapes of anything WWE didn't make but then bought later
100% of the time WWE will same-itize it for your displeasure, lol. Watching old ECW stuff on network was just 😭
Love your videos!
Happy Halloween to you
Cool video as always Tom 💯
Love the info and video, please make more
That Game Masters pun was hilarious in such a dark video. I remember were I was at when the news broke about Chris. Wouldn't have never thought how dark it would get as time progress.
The taskmaster killed Kris Ben Wa
Man that ps2 intro brings out endorphines.
Can't really count the Benoit one, but thank you for going to the lengths to research it!
Awesome i love hearing about lost media 💯
Loved this video please make more like this
There is absolutely zero reason to think that magazine was published the day after Benoit did what he did.
His passing date is June 24th 2007 and a magazine dated June 2007 would have been printed and on the shelves way before then. Seriously back then magazines were dated a month or 2 earlier than the cover date.
I actually worked for a company that handled magazines and comics. It would've been early 2000s when I was there but when I was doing that gig a June cover date for example would've been the last month it would've been available. As in by the end of the month we would've pulled anything still on the rack displaying the same month.
It wouldn’t surprise me wrestling fans created conspiracies, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all either if Vince McMahon had the reach at that point to get it not only recalled,but have the company searching eBay and such for all the trader’s keeping it circulating amongst themselves.
Bro that benoit magazine part of the video was crazy, left my dinner and was watching on the edge of my sit. Great video
I can't believe you actually spent the money for the magazine lol if someone said it on an old forum, they're lying 100% of the time
This footage not from WWE SvR2008, this is WWE Day of Reckoning 2 from GameCube, 2005 release and yes, in that wierd game you can kill non wrestlers backstage )))
When the PlayStation sound came I muted my phone just in case the red screen came 😅
The Benoit part wasn't even lost media. He wasn't in the game
I’m not 100% certain but I think that news clip at the start of the Benoit clip might have shown Pac-Man jones. He was a former titans player and even wrestled a bit in tna. If it was him it’s kinda a wild coincidence he’d be the one football player shown in a wrestling video. But the titans aren’t talked that much in major media and I was only 6 at the time of the Benoit stuff so I’d have no clue what other titans the media would talk about outside of Tennessee around that time.
It wasn't a wrestling video it was the news....if you paid closer attention you would see the word sports on the screen before they show benoit...probably meaning that they were in the sports section of the news
did you ever look and see if it was the actual first edition of the book printed (idk if they even have those or not with magazines) but is there a way to see if it was reprinted due to his death
who'd think that tape couldn't handle fire! lol
There's curtain spots in wrestling that shouldn't be allowed ( Fire is one as well as Tables ). Fire is extremely unpredictable after hearing what happen to Dreamer & Funk I wonder why ECW haven't got fine it ( Big Japan Pro Wrestling did ).
Chris could've killed another person besides Nancy and Daniel. Hardcore Holly was invited by Chris himself to his house. But when Holly didn't appear, he became angry.
And now we know what would've happened had Holly if Chris snapped.
Maybe it wouldn't even have happened if Holly or anyone else was there.
You find out he did what almost every suicidal person wants to do so desperately, and you run with "he would've killed another"???
As tragic as it all is, there is the viewpoint of that Chris’s brain was going on him and maybe he mistook his family as people he didn’t recognise and attacked them and by the time he realised what he had done he couldn’t live with himself
not dark lost wrestling but if anyone knows where to find the full taping of the WWE road to wrestlemania 2006 in wellington New Zealand i would be forever greatful! this is the last wrestling event me and my grandad attend together before his passing. There is bits here and there on youtube which confirms it was filmed by WWE, I have tried to contact them to see if they can possibly upload to the network to no avial. I do know it was on the WWE24/7 at one point when that was a thing.
th-cam.com/video/oGpxI9gIdso/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=NewZealandWrestling
Does this help? I don't normally do this but I can tell it means something to you, so maybe me being in the U.S it's easier for me to find it for ya.. Hope this helps, and if it doesn't I can continue to try and help you find it. Just let me know.
Lol of course Benoit is still in old games. What would you expect?
Benoit also shows up in random wwe encyclopedias from time to time to still for some reason.
That wasn't the point. It was leading to the question about whether or not he was in an early magazine about SvR08, try to keep up.
@@thenightstar8312 nah you're the one who cant keep up
"but it's been sold... Because im the one that bought it" went so hard
No it didn't
I just read that one about Chris not to Long ago I’m really hoping it comes out if he’s still in the game code it probably won’t be that hard to find him
We’d probably need to find a pre-release alpha or beta from early in the development cycle. WWE likely had THQ and Yuke’s dummy out or completely remove anything to do with Benoit as soon as possible after the tragedy.
This is definitely a winning concept.
3:57 wait, if Heyman ordered the lights be turned back on, did he order them to be turned off in the first place?
Based on the graphic, I feel like I have MOST of those from tape trading....
I feel uncomfortable looks nag at Chris Benoit in both in wrestling highlights, and Smackdown Vs Raw 2007. We may respect him as a wrestler, but never as a human being.
The Doctor who cleared Flair to wrestle needs there licence to practice medicine taking from them...
If Ric won't retire from in-ring competition on his own, then Promoters need to step in and not book him to be in the ring...
I could see Flair in a managerial role, as a mentor to a young Wrestler and so on...
At 73 years old, he doesn't need to be in the ring having matches
Are all non televised events technically lost media
I still have a vhs recording of the Benoit tribute show
Is the music from Death Note not copywrite protected?
18:08 that Match is still in youtube
Drying in the wrestling ring WOW that's surely different r.i.p good knowledge didn't know 💩 about that wrestling program or story.👍👀
6:07 that sound brings me back.PS1 was awesome
10:40 had me deaddddd lol
Fly high, Misawa!
You should review All Wheels Wrestling
You can still make caws of benoit all his stuff is thier (movesets, nicknames, gear) idk about the more modern ones
Once Benoit died ECW died with him
The original F around and find out company lol
The ecw match with Tommy happened the year and month of my birth😮
Why was it written as "RAWR" on the game title screen?
Chris Benoit is one of most hated person in wrestling
As he should be. His actions didn't just ruin his own legacy but we can't even say stuff like "Woman in the HOF" without some asshat wanting Benoit in too.
Winner of the 2004 royal rumble mentioned
Google Tom Buchanans article on Owens Death he was the former rigger and almost photographer for a decade. He took pictures in the police department and took the boat hook to Vince and showed him what happen it was a action release cable.
15:02 I thought he had little legs…
It's no different than the murder of Bruiser Brody . Those who could set the story straight aren't talking for fear of their own lives ( tony atlas) just another situation where justice will never be served!!! RIP : BENOIT AND BRUISER BRODY
11:06 😅how much did u pay for this old ass magazine? 😂
What’s your favorite wresting fact that you know about?
Thay John Cena is the best wrestler
:16 you can’t lose something on purpose
I'm confused about the video game at 6:45. I tried to search it and couldn't find anything.
It's not a real game, it's just a facsimile of a Smackdown vs Raw game with Benoit and horror themed wrestlers as the roster (which is why it features AEW talent like Abadon, The Butcher, Julia Hart, and Skye Blue).
thank you for not including the owen hart fall.... that has ben done over and over again
Aka Austin's revenge
@@davec.3129actually, tbh, saddest part of Owen dying is that the guy who did it not only got away with it but was and still is massively rewarded for it and he's such a moron he doesn't even know why what he did was bad. They never bothered telling Kevin Dunn that it's definitely the on the fly change he made to the clip holding Owen based on how it would look on camera that killed him... why bother? Anyone who'd make that switch without, you know, caring at all if it can actually hold any weight...? No reason to bother telling them they'd guessed wrong when they never asked themselves or cared.
Title says [Vol.1], so next time...
4:06 how the fuck did they stay in business
Dumb luck
I don't understand why you would highlight how Chris Benoit is in older games. Obviously he would've been, at the time of Here Comes The Pain or No Mercy N64 (examples) he didn't murder his family. Just a pointless story really.
I don’t think you get the point. It’s the fact that it’s very eerie that there is a very good possibility that in the transition And development time for SmackDown versus raw 2008 that he was implemented in the game because it’s essentially just on the same engine as 2007 but because the game was going to come out late 2007 there is a very good chance that he was playable at some point. Obviously he would be in a game that released in 2006 for SVR 2007. But I’m sure it took a while for WWE to completely get in touch with all of their partners, including THQ to remove him from the product.
Kevin Sullivan did it
@@DukeTheRebelI not only heard he was gonna be playable, but he was also gonna be a mentor to whoever you selected in the games 24/7 mode. It would make sense since a lot of people complained that the mode was inconsistent, he likely had voice lines done in the game and after the tragedy happened anything and everything involving him directly had to be removed.
That wasn't the point. It was leading to the question about whether or not he was in an early magazine about SvR08, try to keep up.
I don't believe Benoit did it
You mean physically?
As in somebody else did it?
That's a new one.
We've all heard the theory that he wasn't aware of what he was doing due to the severe head trauma he sustained over his career.
And yeah, that one has to be atleast partially true considering the results of the medical examination.
But it being a frame job or a crime committed by somebody else is an interesting thought.
the first exw fire spot isn't really "lost". wwe owns the tape. same with most promtions in the wsetern hemisphere. wwe bought up alot promotions' libraries and just sit on the tapes.
Chris Benoit hasn't been scrubbed. Just his name so it doesn't show up in search engines on their media platforms like the Network and their websites. There is a difference even if you can't figure that out.
Didn't he specifically say that his name was scrubbed?
Markula_4040 I thought you dont like sports.. no one does?!?
The real question is was that actually jude law lol
In GM mode in SD vs Raw '07, I built the SmackDown franchise around him prior to him murdering his family. When the news broke not only did I delete the progress, I never played GM mode again.
Let's hope you never take a deep dive into the world of wrestling then. Benoit is just one of many monsters in the business.
Gia girls was tough to watch.
6 minutes devoted to something that wasn't even true...
Great video. The Benoit part was kinda pointless and the transitions were uhhh something but the first and last entry was great.
I don’t see how it was pointless. It still falls under the wrestling lost media. Because there’s a very good chance that at some point, the developers had him playable, rarer builds of games have come out in the past. For other series that have had only rumored Content in them, until they were proven to be real.
That wasn't the point. It was leading to the question about whether or not he was in an early magazine about SvR08, try to keep up.
@thenightstar8312 you've said that to alot of people....maybe...just maybe the point wasn't very clear. Maybe you should keep up bud...
Damn...
I know RIGHT
9:28 I actually live in NJ near Game Crazy and I played that same demo 😳 he was in it
I have the ecw footage where can I submit it
I have to comment. This video is all over the place structurally. Not good.
Funny I have heard of a lot of people being murdered but for 3 people to be murdered and they have the case closed in less than 24 hours is unheard of. In my opinion they were told what to do. If you believe I'm wrong that's on you. But I'm willing to bet you are easily fooled. Believe what you know and question everything you've ever been told. You have been warned
Why do I feel like I remember my time playing svr 2008 it had Benoit on it, don’t know where the disc is tho and that’s annoying as it might be rare
Resling laws midia
Lol he called it tubby
How could you mention lost wrestling media, and not talk about the Owen Hart footage???
Because it's been done to death already along with Droz and D'Lo Brown.
@@sjdrifter72 I gotchya. But it’s still the darkest wrestling lost media in existence! It should atleast get an honorable mention
@@whitemamba24xe98 No it shouldn't have. In fact, it would be great if everyone just never brought it up again.
@@thenightstar8312 same with Chris Benoit but people still do it 😂
Im only 10 seconds in and while I wouldn't consider this DARK lost media, I SWEAR, to this day, especially born and raised in NYC where vince more or less focused wwf, ...but yeah I swear i saw on Saturday morning 10 Am wwf superstars or one of them shows I never missed since I was 6 in 1984 (and subsequently hated Hogan forever because he took the belt from one of my 3 favs, the Iron Sheik, other 2 Snuka and Piper, could imagine my tears during the pipers pit coconut incident... ...but I digress...)
Yes lemme get to it finally before I have to run to the bathroom again cuz I ate-- no no kidding, jk...
I swear I saw Jake the Snake DDT hogan on the snake pit or whatever show, MUCH to the delight of the crowd... I remember cheering and being so happy and satisfied that of course not only he got DDT'd into oblivion but that the crowd loved it too...
They say it's lost, never aired or only aired in very limited homes, but to quote the younger street toughs nowadays, "ill die on that hill," that I saw Jake blast that self centered, conniving, manipulative, overrated, scheming fuck with what was then the actual most devastating move in all of wrestling---- take THAT Simon Miller with your schoolboy roll up! 😂😂
Man I knew I could smell a Simon miller ball hugger half way through your post. 🤮
It's like you copied his annoying personality
What are you are you talking about
Jake has publicly stated many times that his program with Hulk was scrapped as he was getting positive crowd reactions while Hogan was getting booed.
Oj Simpson was found innocent
Yes, because a corrupt judge and a lying high priced attorney got a guilty man let off on a technically. OJ SImpson absolutely did it and anyone who thinks he didn't, is delusional.
and yet that doesn’t mean he didn’t do it
@@bostonrailfan2427not guilty is not guilty in every other situation.
@@DreamstoRealityAutomotiveTV understood, you have zero clue what a textbook case that trial was for how not to run a trial and is cited as letting a clearly guilty person get off thanks to making everyone ignore the evidence in favor of personal attacks
next you’ll call a racist because i actually watched the damn thing and listened to the evidence and ignored Johnny Cochran’s idiotic showboating
@@bostonrailfan2427 you ever stop and wonder? Am I being trolled?
6:49 uh is that julia hart?
Lol ya
Cody Roades and his own stupidity is the most recent fire spot
you missed Aaron Hernandez, Sergio Brown, and Rae Carruth who were all in video games and who infamously murdered people and who were convicted of it!
This is for wrestling specifically
@@smurfitoo1585 watch the joke again, you are either ignorant of the joke’s meaning or dumb…