ITS NOT ALWAYS JEALOUSY ITS THE SLAVE OWNER WHEN U AND UR FRIENDS START SOMETHING TOGETHER AND WHEN U MAKE IT AND PEOPLE WANT U TO GO SOLO THAT COMES BETWEEN FRIENDS..,.SEE ITS EASY TO CONTROL 1 MIND BUT NOT SEVERAL THEY WANT TO MINIMIZE THE THE THOUGHT PROCESS BECAUSE EVERY GROUP HAS 1 MEMBER THATS SMARTER AND MORE BUSINESS MINDED AND THATS THE FIRST 1 THEY WANT ELIMINATED AND IT HAPPENS IN EVERY GROUP....AND SOMETIMES ITS THE MANAGER THAT STARTED WITH THEM....
Bruh really just said "I am David Ruffin and these are the Temptations" Murphy lee feeling like Nelly told em' "ain't nobody coming to see you OTIS" lmao
I would never say no shhh like that....about my friends.... And even if we werent friends....Im not that fkn get-toe to get on the radio and say that ...... Theres a professional way to say that. Ngs kill me liking ppl with these personalities and what they accept..
@@DaytimeNightmare nigga did you know that his so called friends said shit to him first. ALI went to an interview complaining and tryna put nelly on blast. He tried ignoring it and not say anything but it became too much. I don’t defend bullies. I do believe in telling your side of the story. And that’s all is nelly doing is telling his side. I hate it when people speak on things but don’t have any clue what they talking about.
@@DaytimeNightmare It's his fault that it slipped out like that because he's been holding it in. He should have expressed this before it turned bitter. But it's not a lie so...
I've been in the business and there's more business to this, than just this statement. I don't know his knowledge base back then. But he didn't usher in his crew the right way from a marketing standpoint.
Let’s be real…. The other members WEREN’T GOOD RAPPERS . You can’t expect Nelly to make all y’all rich just cuz we’re friends. He made them famous….. and they earned alot of FREE MONEY behind NELLY name .. they weren’t stars
Nah the whole thing was a vibe! How does Nelly not realize that. Having the whole team on stage reppin in the early videos, Cmon Country Grammar, E.I.!… the fun features… that era in the early 2000’s was so solid and fun man
Fr, I was a youngster at 8 listening to this album and couldn’t wait to grind on sone BBW’s to music like this, now all we have is Lil baby and Dababy’s garbage 🗑 ish
From the business perspective that seems logical but for Nelly to call his friends liabilities when they helped groom his career was the ultimate betrayal.
I'm from the Lou and I also agree with you bruh the industry picked him up and didn't want the the whole team but if everyone look at Mruff he was the youngest and Nelly could have takehim underneath his wings and at least try to guide him instead of leaving him out to dry. Js
Murphy Lee was the swaggiest out of ALL of them. He singlehandedly changed fashion in hip hop at that time. I hope no one follows his lead on those two hats,though.
If you were there back then you know they were ALL an act. You rarely even saw Nelly without them. Two diff names, yeah, but we know the Lunatics were straight up instrumental in Nelly’s success. They all started off together. They were in Nelly’s videos and performances since the beginning.
Exactly what I said he could’ve from the beginning said it’s Nelly &Tics negotiated pricing for them to get paid outside of his money or he could’ve took lil but off his added it to venue price to give them lil more period
Yeah and nelly made sure they all got deals after the deal they had before they were just going to take him out of because he kept telling them something wasnt right with it and wanted to have a lawer look at the same deal that they all got screwed and couldnt claim the publishing on country grammar then when the album was about to come out they all told the label they were going to take their verses off if they didnt get paid now when all their deals relied on nelly selling atleast 250000 albums so nelly had to beg the label to pay them and take it out of his money. Then he took them on tour for 15 years. Sounds to me like he did plenty for the same people who were so quick to tell him they were gonna throw him off the deal with d2 if he didnt sign the shit contract where d2 now owned 100% of their publishing
What the hook gone b........Murphy lee....should have...did u is own thing.....but I truly don't believe ....that no one in Missouri wants a lunatic show...I been a st lunatics fan.............fuck nelly....I was yelling st lunatics since a kid
I agree with that. Most artist call themselves men but don't act like it. That could have been a man to man convo face to face or either by phone because when you start airing stuff out to the media than can twist that stuff up and make things even worst. #GoodDay
@@toreytownsend4705I truly believe once things start getting aired out to the media the friendship and brotherhood been withered away a long time ago and the love is no longer present. I don't care what kind of problems friends may have once outside entities are involved especially in this situation the friendship is a wrap
They literally helped him write his most popular lyrics tho??? That sounds like he trying to label them as a liability when they were crucial in the success..which would make them an opposite of a liability they were actually an asset...
Even if he felt that way, He never should have never aired this out. I'm sure Em.can say the same about D12. But he has never thrown them under the bus.
Bro if N*z is eating off me for two maybeee 3years and they don't bring in any money for "Their Talent". I'ma take my talented ass down the road solo. Bro almost two decades!! Naw
@@miyagifatghost2684 Right, he carried his crew for a decade. Maybe his delivery was harsh but it's true. He gave his crew access and was paying. They should have created some connections so they can get on. That was not Nellys responsibility....now the St Lunatics did have some hits and deserve a cut...
He had to come with the group first which helped his image as far as a team but when the money come …. Smh 🤦♂️ I did this I did that they want me not y’all coon shìt
Exactly. He tried to bring them up for a long time. We all saw it. He kept them dudes around when he didn't have to. Especially boy with the mask. He did nothing. Their freaky Zeeky
@Cal Sums I agree he is a lackluster rapper. And I don't know what their business really is. I'm just saying, you can't carry everybody forever if they are nor adding to the plate
@@expertcritic9547he said when he took them to his show, he made less money because he paid them out of that money. If he did the show by himself, he would have gotten ALL the money 💰
Can tell people in the comments are dumb as usual. Internet has done that. Nelly wasn't lying, I've never heard anyone say I wanna pay tickets to go see St. Lunatics ever in my life but I bet you they said I want a Nelly show. Out of all them Nelly was the star, yeah Murphy had a run for about 5mins and one of his biggest song got Nelly on it. Fxck is we talking about. Name me top 5 Murphy Lee or any of the St. Lunatics members without Google 🤔. People (mainly black people) always expect free shxt or hand out when someone has done well for themselves. Work harder than he did maybe you can get there if not don't try paint someone for wrong doing when it's your own doing. If they wre big why are they still not touring like Nelly is?
WRONG. Could be equity (e.g. common stock). Treat them as investments and could get dividends in return...financially speaking. Assets = Liabilities + Equity.
@@stockstock6805 There's not a balance sheet in America that will have a line item reading "albatross" or "dead weight". And if there was, that still doesn't speak to what I said. Try again.
....he literally just said for 15 plus years he made sure his niggas were good. How long are you supposed to carry grown men...? He didn't fall off he switched up and been getting a bigger bag with the country music. Y'all simple minded like a mf. He is legit diversifying his portfolio/catalog meaning when he goes to sell it he will get BIG 💰.
@@suntaylor5721 got you so money is more important understand dats why friendships are naw called sacrifices with people in the world like y'all in the world I guess the simple minded people don't matter cause u know it all's have everything under control 🫵😑 u sure tought me something 👍
@@bruceq7370 Ali started talking crap on him he just responded to what was said . Why do people get to control the narrative. They spoke he answered . See people try and play victim to it’s time for all of us to talk publicly.
I can’t say I recalled Lunatics having a following like that. Murphy Lee had a little buzz with “what the hook gon be” track but all through high school we were hitting FYE and Best Buy to get nelly drops. Nellyville was my shiiit back then.
@George Gil Honestly, I don't remember the album like that except summer in the city song. I was working at best buy at the time I didn't see a lot of people buying st.lunatics like that. I'm not saying they wasn't enjoyed by some but nelly was "it" artist.
That's hard to believ....was I the only fan of the system lunatics in the whole america......if that is true fuck yal...I don't care ..I rock the with lunatics......St lunatics for life...I even fuks with the guy that wears the.mask....yall remember the foo that he just wears the.mask...he don't rap
Damn Nelly, you didn't have to shit on them like that. My son cost me money, I will never refer to him as a liability. The love for him won't allow me!
Your obligated to take care your child tho lol Nelly ain’t obligated to take care them grown as men 😂😂😂😂 they are liabilities because say they do some shit because they grown ass men making they own decisions while on tour with Nelly, he gone take heat for whatever it is they doing without his permission 😂
@@TH-lt6yj Honestly they had no lane. Nelly got out on by the machine....they never asked for them dudes in the first place even though they started as a group.... Nelly and artist like Ja Rule have no underground following to keep them relevant ... Just a gimmick artist
Nelly talking dollars and cents. But the st lunatics brought some value…Nelly just didn’t want to see the real value they fund bring. Bc everybody is worth something in the circle.
Watch the entire interview. They made moves to get deals without Nelly. Nelly didn't sign off on his deal without trying to help the crew. They were making diss records about him in his studio...how Nelly supposed to feel. None of them denied what Nelly said.
All FACTS I watch the full interview and understand all of what he was talking about. Like he said how you all didn't get paid and city spud did and he was locked up. They just want free money.
Now if that's true, they ain't shit. But Nelly could b making it up to look good, on record. Nelly wasn't raw. Never cared for him TBH. He did nothing for hip hop💯
No they didn't. And if you personally knew them, you wouldn't be expecting them to. Not saying you are at all. However, for me when I do anything for anyone from my heart, Idc what!! Im never going to hurl it out my mouth, NO MATTER WHAT 💯 HERE IN THE STL KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WHAT'S FOR EACH OF THEM IS FOR THEM. ALLL OF THESE BRUTHRS ARE DOING JUST FINE. 💯💯❤️
@@jamelrodriguez1615 lol this puppet as shit you know this man gone lie to make hisself standout…point being he ended up where they at he just got into marketing to save his hide…talk indifferent but with the same fate maybe karma idk
This is the downside of wanting to help your friends. Sometimes you have to be realistic and understand they just don’t have what it takes. They should be able to keep it moving alone shortly after you give them opportunity, not you having to take care of them forever.
Absolutely not but anybody and everybody that had a part in the show or videos gets paid from his company.That like me going to my shift at work he hospital and the owners come in and tell us the employees we are liabilities. If it’s his company they are his employees because I’m not just going to pay them for 15 years just to do it
it sounds like the saint lunatics needed their own management teams to make Nellie's statements false or void. if your management is not negotiating on your behalf to get you paid then you got the wrong management
That’s the difference between people like Nelly and the Master P’s or 50’s of the world. P and 50 did everything they could to promote they boys. Did shows wit em. Hopped on they shit. All I’m they videos and all that. U think Lloyd Banks or Sylkk the Shocker was legit bringing in money? Or u think if 50 and P did they own shows, they woulda been able to pocket all the money instead of show love. Every other month Nelly do some ish I just can’t get wit
True facts! Everybody that starts with you is not meant to finish with you! Sometimes you have to shed a few pounds in order to live a healthier life style!
It's sad to see things end up like this because they started off as a team Nelly just admitted that money was really the reason why he cut them loose...DAM Nelly carmely
Caller: hello, I want to book St. Lunatics for a concert in the UK... SAID NO CALLER EVER! Now I got to take you and your girlfriends, pay for the flight, your meals, city tours, your outfits etc. Whether you like it or not, you were just a help. Nobody paid 200 pounds to come watch you. It's not about feelings, it business. You don't deserve as much as you think you do. Black people can never understand the money side of business. If the money is not coming in you cannot pay staffs, travel, buy instruments, pay artists etc...and they are not marketable on their own. Business does not work like that.
@@jamesgish9202 He got all them niggas deals, after that is on them to get their solo careers hot. Nelly can’t be responsible for what grown niggas do or don’t do.
@James Gish Putting your people on and taking care of ungrateful people that diss you and talk shit about you behind your back are two different things. Sorry, but I disagree.
I appreciate the analogy but most bills are needed liabilities: that mofo needs energy, heat, water, insurance and maintenance. I like to think of them as asset's executive assistants, if you will lol
@@jamaalhorton2343 Your home falls in the asset category even if you have not paid it entirely off. The value assigned to your home can be the amount you paid to purchase it, the taxable value or the current market value based on how other houses are selling in your neighborhood.
Okayyyyy but you can't get rid of that painful liability. It comes with the pkg. Uncle Sam is a liability. I have a good job, but Uncle Sam wants to jock my pimp juice🥴
Nelly has a point, except for Murph, Murph was the only one who went to work on his solo album, and was suppose to drop another solo back to back but Ali put his kinfolk collab album with BIg Gip. Nelly's first solo sold gold which made it possible for all tics to have solo options with Universal. Murph took advantage of the opportunity that Nelly set up for everybody.
Honestly Murphy could’ve been bigger than Nelly. And I fucks with Nelly but from a rapping/lyrical standpoint Murthy’s verses stood out just the same as Nellys if we being real.
@@thegreatone6272 I don't think so, murph was more lyrical but lyrical rappers songs dont preform the best and don't come across as catch enough. Loyld Banks was the most lyrical out of G-unit but his songs didn't come across the best from an entertainment perspective like 50 cents and Bucks! Murph's sophomore album could of went platinum again, if Ali wasn't in his feelings about his solo debute flop and then try to recover with Goodie Mob's Big Gip!
You can’t feed 5 grown men and their families forever. When you are young you don’t understand that perspective. They are grown men they know Nelly is right 🤣
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Nelly was cold for that but Murphy Lee wearing a hat on a hat epitomizes the situation. The St. Lunatics were a hat on a hat. 😂
Underrated 🔥
That was a bar
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is actually genius lol
🎯
This nigga really woke up and put two hats on 😩🤦🏽♂️
I think he forgot, someone said his rear view mirror was broken in his car
😂😂😂 ole clown azz nigga.
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
first thing that popped in my mind, a few seconds before that I said im going to stop being so judgmental.
Money has destroyed so many friendships. Jealousy has destroyed even more.
No lies told in this statement.
When he went SOLO…. I hated that..ish he put out 🤦🏾♂️
They mad asf they ain't the top man
@@carltonmenzies7558 that's why he fell off too , Nelly got big headed
ITS NOT ALWAYS JEALOUSY ITS THE SLAVE OWNER WHEN U AND UR FRIENDS START SOMETHING TOGETHER AND WHEN U MAKE IT AND PEOPLE WANT U TO GO SOLO THAT COMES BETWEEN FRIENDS..,.SEE ITS EASY TO CONTROL 1 MIND BUT NOT SEVERAL THEY WANT TO MINIMIZE THE THE THOUGHT PROCESS BECAUSE EVERY GROUP HAS 1 MEMBER THATS SMARTER AND MORE BUSINESS MINDED AND THATS THE FIRST 1 THEY WANT ELIMINATED AND IT HAPPENS IN EVERY GROUP....AND SOMETIMES ITS THE MANAGER THAT STARTED WITH THEM....
Nelly said "a dime!!!".... Like a pastor 🤣
Lmfao 😂
😂😂😂
“a DIME-Uhh!” 😂
😂😂😂💯💯
🤣 sound like Kirk franklin
Bruh really just said "I am David Ruffin and these are the Temptations" Murphy lee feeling like Nelly told em' "ain't nobody coming to see you OTIS" lmao
stfu 😂😂😂😂😂😀💯 Im hipp 🤣
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Hilarious!! Facts!!😂😂😂
See how money devide . When my dude ride I don't care what it cost, he riding !
😂😂😂😂
Everybody call up Nellys office and ask for a St Lunatics show 😂😂
not a dolla would be given cause everybody callin prolly broke
@@christurner8668 let’s not be negative and pocket watch now. You don’t know who’s on the other side of that line cmon na
😂😂😂😂
“ ain’t nobody calling for you, Otis”! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I know that joke was already done but it’s still funny as hell!!!
Man f#%k all them 😂😂😂😂
If my boy wore a fitted with a skully on top he’s definitely a liability 😂😂
That's his style tho. Creativity don't exist anymore.
Saint lunatic
So if he wore the hat on top the skully would that have been better 😂
🤣🤣
@@hoopty. I guess they can't read. St L.U.N.A.T.I.C
Do people even know what a lunatic is? 😂😂😂😂
A person that wears a hat on top of a hat😂😂😂😂
Nelly has that 50cent philosophy meaning every body has to step up
Nah Fif at least made sure Banks and Yayo got a bag no matter what
Facts
@@charlescurry2568 😊 Banks and Yayo never said 50 was a theif either...
Fif more like “I got you”
Nelly more like “capitalize it”
@@brandoni241buck did lol
Yo he got a Scully on a fitted lmao ain’t nobody gonna talk about that elephant In the room 😂😂😂😂😂
AYE 😆 🤣 😂
Murph doin wayyy to much😫
Im cry😂😂
That's St.Louis shit right there..
Nigga I ain’t even see that to I seen this 2 hats on one head is crazy yo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Ain’t nobody comin to see you Otis!!” Vibes
🤣🤣🤣
☠️
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😢 Nelly is on that David Ruffin type of shit😢
I'm weakkkk 😅 😅😅😅😅
What Nelly is saying is true, it probably hurts but it’s a harsh reality
Facts
I would never say no shhh like that....about my friends.... And even if we werent friends....Im not that fkn get-toe to get on the radio and say that ...... Theres a professional way to say that. Ngs kill me liking ppl with these personalities and what they accept..
@@DaytimeNightmare nigga did you know that his so called friends said shit to him first. ALI went to an interview complaining and tryna put nelly on blast. He tried ignoring it and not say anything but it became too much. I don’t defend bullies. I do believe in telling your side of the story. And that’s all is nelly doing is telling his side. I hate it when people speak on things but don’t have any clue what they talking about.
@@DaytimeNightmare It's his fault that it slipped out like that because he's been holding it in. He should have expressed this before it turned bitter. But it's not a lie so...
@@DaytimeNightmare They been slick talking Nelly for years that's why he did that interview.
Nelly was telling the TRUTH….. people that aren’t in business dont understand that
I think he has enough money he's supposed to put his ppl on.
I've been in the business and there's more business to this, than just this statement. I don't know his knowledge base back then. But he didn't usher in his crew the right way from a marketing standpoint.
@@jamesgish9202 he did put them on. It isn’t his job to keep them on. They gotta step up and put in the grind.
Let’s be real…. The other members WEREN’T GOOD RAPPERS . You can’t expect Nelly to make all y’all rich just cuz we’re friends. He made them famous….. and they earned alot of FREE MONEY behind NELLY name .. they weren’t stars
Straight up
A fitted cap w/ a skully is WILD AF 😂
🤣😂🤣
@@Pinky_nugga 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Pinky_nugga 😂😂 he seen it on a crackhead and was like that shit FYE! 😂
😀😃😄😁😆
@@poloredfrmnap4069 😭😭🤣💀
take notes if u trying to make it in this music business it's always friends at the beginning but when the smoke clears money changes everything
Except for the l.o.x
Church!!!!!!
Nah the whole thing was a vibe! How does Nelly not realize that. Having the whole team on stage reppin in the early videos, Cmon Country Grammar, E.I.!… the fun features… that era in the early 2000’s was so solid and fun man
YOU SMALL BRAIN. HIM BRINGING IN ENTIRE LUNATIC PROBABALH COST HIM 60%-70% OF PROFIT FOR 15 YEARS!!!
Fr, I was a youngster at 8 listening to this album and couldn’t wait to grind on sone BBW’s to music like this, now all we have is Lil baby and Dababy’s garbage 🗑 ish
Sounds like he was being a REAL friend! He chose to bring them and pay them out of his own purse. For 15 years!!!! 😳
Facts
Murph was the best lyricist on that crew.
Most definitely
That album had some classics throughout it
Mann... that guy had ultra bars!
I need two pairs
Lyrically better than Nelly! The hoes blew Nelly lets keep real🤷🏾♂️
Factz!!!
Murphy Lee used to be one of my underrated favorites in the game.
Murphy Lee came out with a solid ass album and then disappeared. I been wondering where tf he been at
@@nates3880 agreed 👍🏾
For like 2 months
And money a m*********** ain't it
Me too!. I just listened to “What the Hook Gone Be” the other day. Still fire 🔥
It’s always been Nelly and the St.Lunatics. I always looked at it as a package deal.
Went straight to the comments to address the beanie on top of a hat😂😂😂
If Nelly felt that way he should have came out by himself.
He Did😌
@@jamesharris2962 NO HE DIDN'T dummy
Agree 💯
100 that was messed up
🤔 so he supposed to keep feeding them ?!?!..... So why are they not bringing in any money 💰 ?
From the business perspective that seems logical but for Nelly to call his friends liabilities when they helped groom his career was the ultimate betrayal.
I'm from the Lou and I also agree with you bruh the industry picked him up and didn't want the the whole team but if everyone look at Mruff he was the youngest and Nelly could have takehim underneath his wings and at least try to guide him instead of leaving him out to dry. Js
Watch the whole interview
Especially when they all wrote country grammar together
Thank you!!! That's the elephant in the dam room!! That dude a industry ho
Nah. This is business. If it was just a homie contract then they should have been cutting grass at his houses making up for the money he spent
Murphy Lee was the swaggiest out of ALL of them. He singlehandedly changed fashion in hip hop at that time. I hope no one follows his lead on those two hats,though.
Changed fashion in hip hop? Says who? How?🤔
@@sashalove83 if you don't know,you weren't around.
Murph went up, can't speak for none of the others tho, but Murph had some good music
What the hat gone be!?🥴,sirsylk
I loved that Ali, and Murphy song.
Murph is still being sampled to this day
Kijaun and Murphy lee had that boughetto
@@earldouglas4645 all I need is a track in the background my headphones loud keep the blunt going round and imma rip
“For 15 years you not bringing in a dyyyhhhhhiiiiiiimmmmmmmaah” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
So GAY
This brought back a hilarious memory🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
Sounding like a reverend 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂💯
The way he said dyyyymahhhhh had me chokin on my food😂😂😂😂
If you were there back then you know they were ALL an act. You rarely even saw Nelly without them. Two diff names, yeah, but we know the Lunatics were straight up instrumental in Nelly’s success. They all started off together. They were in Nelly’s videos and performances since the beginning.
A king without a court and a army is useless.
Exactly what I said he could’ve from the beginning said it’s Nelly &Tics negotiated pricing for them to get paid outside of his money or he could’ve took lil but off his added it to venue price to give them lil more period
Yeah and nelly made sure they all got deals after the deal they had before they were just going to take him out of because he kept telling them something wasnt right with it and wanted to have a lawer look at the same deal that they all got screwed and couldnt claim the publishing on country grammar then when the album was about to come out they all told the label they were going to take their verses off if they didnt get paid now when all their deals relied on nelly selling atleast 250000 albums so nelly had to beg the label to pay them and take it out of his money. Then he took them on tour for 15 years. Sounds to me like he did plenty for the same people who were so quick to tell him they were gonna throw him off the deal with d2 if he didnt sign the shit contract where d2 now owned 100% of their publishing
So Murphy Lee legit looked in the mirror and said “I need a hat for this hat”
Bruh LMAOO 😂😂
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😂😂😂😂
That’s his style.. can’t knock a brother for doing something different.
😂😂😂😂
Money don't change you. It makes you more of what you are
Yep, just like alcohol does...
Yup
Thatpart. He needed them until he felt confident.
Yeah pretty much 🥴🍺🍺🍺🍺
Yea i think Nelly was bogus for this one
“Ain’t nobody coming to see you Otis!” 😂😂😂
Murph had the best verses. And that st lunatic album was hard.
Murphy Lee ALWAYS had his OWN STYLE!!! BIG UPS TO HIM
What the hook gone b........Murphy lee....should have...did u is own thing.....but I truly don't believe ....that no one in Missouri wants a lunatic show...I been a st lunatics fan.............fuck nelly....I was yelling st lunatics since a kid
And I'm all the way in seattle
That clown style is definitely it🤣🤣🤣
Nobody wanna see Murphy Lee lol😂
Cut that out Murphy is the truth....
He was “CAPPIN” and ain’t even know it !! 😂😂😂
How he said dime . “ a DYIIII…MUH “ 🤣🤣
Bro couldn’t decide if it was cold or hot with that hat combo
Business is Business but you should never forget about "lil bruh and nem"!
Nelly cared nothing about how they felt until his money started drying up as well
You got it backwards; he cared for them until he started losing money.
Same thing with g unit people wanted 50 but he pushed his people
Nelly finally wised up🙄😄
How long he supposed to let them eat off his name??
You clearly didn't watch the actual interview...they screwed over Nelly and he still fed them.
These are things that they should discuss amongst each other as two grown ass men not on air podcast.
I agree with that. Most artist call themselves men but don't act like it. That could have been a man to man convo face to face or either by phone because when you start airing stuff out to the media than can twist that stuff up and make things even worst. #GoodDay
@@toreytownsend4705I truly believe once things start getting aired out to the media the friendship and brotherhood been withered away a long time ago and the love is no longer present. I don't care what kind of problems friends may have once outside entities are involved especially in this situation the friendship is a wrap
Whether they come along or NOT!!! 🤣🤣🤣
David Ruffin Jr😂
This is the verbal low blow from the "big homie"
Murphy Lee was an beast
*A beast. Only use An before a word that starts with a vowel or has a vowel sound.
So we gone ignore the Beenie on top of a fitted 🤣🤣 I understand fashion and style but damn 💀💀💀
Business is Business. Facts on what a liability is per business definition. 💯
That's still messed up tho
They literally helped him write his most popular lyrics tho??? That sounds like he trying to label them as a liability when they were crucial in the success..which would make them an opposite of a liability they were actually an asset...
Even if he felt that way, He never should have never aired this out. I'm sure Em.can say the same about D12. But he has never thrown them under the bus.
They started running their mouth first from I saw
He was quiet for a long time. They earned that shit
But...if they dogging you and not appreciating "the sacrifice", what do you do? Can't be a fool ALL YOUR LIFE.
WHAT???: PLEASE SAY IT A LIL LOUDER 😂😂😂😂🤣.. NOT A GOOD LOOK AT ALL.
But they disrespected Nelly
Stay humble, don’t forget where you came from, and don’t forget about the people that helped you get to the position you are in now
You got to watch the whole interview
Define help in this context
Nelly talk just like my aunty when she be making points! Every syllable will be heard! Then that look he made at the end 💀💀
thats black americans period. my moms and aunts do it too-lol
Like a Baptist preacher for real lol I can’t 😂
So Nelly forgot where he came from and now he calls his pioneer homies liabilities? Wow! He ain’t shit for that one.
Yeah that was foul but it may have been true!
Nelly tweeted out his little pecker by mistake... that's why he's like that... small man issues
Bro if N*z is eating off me for two maybeee 3years and they don't bring in any money for "Their Talent". I'ma take my talented ass down the road solo. Bro almost two decades!! Naw
No Doubt. Lost much respect. Pretty much ALL.
@@miyagifatghost2684 Right, he carried his crew for a decade. Maybe his delivery was harsh but it's true. He gave his crew access and was paying. They should have created some connections so they can get on. That was not Nellys responsibility....now the St Lunatics did have some hits and deserve a cut...
Nelly is the true definition of your friends ain't your friends
Cap. He was a user.
@@Bart-lp9vb You don’t know what you’re talking about. 🤦🏾♂️
He had to come with the group first which helped his image as far as a team but when the money come …. Smh 🤦♂️ I did this I did that they want me not y’all coon shìt
Nobody wanted a St lunatic show. Ever. What so they can perform air force ones?
he telling the truth
NELLY SAYING : NOBODY COMING TO SEE YOU MURPHY LEE 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lies
Right can't make jo money if no one wants to see or hear ya music
😂😂😂😂
No one COMING TO SEE YOU OTIS!!!!°
😂😂
"You are a liability".....he said that with his CHEST
You don't tell.your.friends that they are liabilities....you negotiate the contract to cover your friends...pride comes before the fall
Nelly told the label he wasn't doing nothing without the lunatics that's how he got the lunatics deal they tried to sign just Nelly but he wouldn't go
Tf
Numerically Speaking, Nelly is Right. He is under no obligation to carry everybody like Mc Hammer did to his own detriment 🤷🏾
Exactly. He tried to bring them up for a long time. We all saw it. He kept them dudes around when he didn't have to. Especially boy with the mask. He did nothing. Their freaky Zeeky
But the team helped with those albums Nelly can't rap
Lol really
@Cal Sums I agree he is a lackluster rapper. And I don't know what their business really is. I'm just saying, you can't carry everybody forever if they are nor adding to the plate
@@divinedelaware7541 It was the Lunatics with the grind also. It not like he met them after he got on.
Nelly them dudes helped you though. take care of your guys.
He did, for 15years… pay attention
@@I-Said-It-Already how?
@@expertcritic9547he said when he took them to his show, he made less money because he paid them out of that money. If he did the show by himself, he would have gotten ALL the money 💰
@@shorondafifer8964 Nelly didn't become Nelly by himself. He needed them on his team from day one.
@@expertcritic9547but he was the star power
They help him lyrically tho
They were making money because of Nelly. Nelly was the brand.
didn't they tho .sm😔fh. Nelly straight bitch made
Sooo..... Who bought tickets to see the Lunatics without Nelly
They wrote most of Nelly's hits
@@chuckyblack3578 No they didnt.If so they would be rich like him.
And just like that, Respect for Nelly just up and left.
Respect has just left the building.🙃🤪😜
Can tell people in the comments are dumb as usual. Internet has done that.
Nelly wasn't lying, I've never heard anyone say I wanna pay tickets to go see St. Lunatics ever in my life but I bet you they said I want a Nelly show. Out of all them Nelly was the star, yeah Murphy had a run for about 5mins and one of his biggest song got Nelly on it. Fxck is we talking about. Name me top 5 Murphy Lee or any of the St. Lunatics members without Google 🤔. People (mainly black people) always expect free shxt or hand out when someone has done well for themselves. Work harder than he did maybe you can get there if not don't try paint someone for wrong doing when it's your own doing. If they wre big why are they still not touring like Nelly is?
Damn.
I feel the same way! Damn Nelly
@@dealz5197 💯, stop counting that man’s pockets and go out and gain a buzz of your own, 50 cent expressed the same thing with G-unit
If you aren't an asset, you're a liability. Flat out
WRONG. Could be equity (e.g. common stock). Treat them as investments and could get dividends in return...financially speaking. Assets = Liabilities + Equity.
They was getting hot tho ,so it don’t make sense
Nailed it 💯 👌
@@gjwilliams4098 Investment that ain't paying off is nothing but an albatross or a dead weight 😏
@@stockstock6805 There's not a balance sheet in America that will have a line item reading "albatross" or "dead weight". And if there was, that still doesn't speak to what I said. Try again.
He doesn't give a damn about nobody but himself 🫵😑👎
That’s why Nelly fell off, now singing country at festivals and twirling little girls hair on stage!! He’s a weirdo now! Karma.
....he literally just said for 15 plus years he made sure his niggas were good. How long are you supposed to carry grown men...? He didn't fall off he switched up and been getting a bigger bag with the country music. Y'all simple minded like a mf. He is legit diversifying his portfolio/catalog meaning when he goes to sell it he will get BIG 💰.
You can definitely tell he’s very selfish y’all was a group they helped build your career lame azz 🥷🏾
@@Bamgonegetit357 so true when they disappeared he started to fade but to leave the people dat had ur back from day one behind is b.s
@@suntaylor5721 got you so money is more important understand dats why friendships are naw called sacrifices with people in the world like y'all in the world I guess the simple minded people don't matter cause u know it all's have everything under control 🫵😑 u sure tought me something 👍
If you had a Saint Lunatic on either one of those album’s then it ain’t just a Nelly show.
Huh
It most certainly is. It's called a feature
He went from tryna put them on to shitting on them.
@@bruceq7370 Ali started talking crap on him he just responded to what was said . Why do people get to control the narrative. They spoke he answered . See people try and play victim to it’s time for all of us to talk publicly.
@@coryespie8075 FACTS
Bro thought he killed the game with the double hat combo 😂😂😂
Stop it 😆😅😂
😂😂😂😂
This man got a hat on top of a hat 😂
😂Omm!!
Was looking for this comment
St louis thing
His hat wears a hat.......
I was thinking the same shit
I can’t say I recalled Lunatics having a following like that. Murphy Lee had a little buzz with “what the hook gon be” track but all through high school we were hitting FYE and Best Buy to get nelly drops. Nellyville was my shiiit back then.
Country Grammar for me
St lunatics album Midwest swing was the hardest to ever drop.....and elbows with ali........all them same songs on the st lunatics is fire........
@George Gil Honestly, I don't remember the album like that except summer in the city song. I was working at best buy at the time I didn't see a lot of people buying st.lunatics like that. I'm not saying they wasn't enjoyed by some but nelly was "it" artist.
Summer in the city
That's hard to believ....was I the only fan of the system lunatics in the whole america......if that is true fuck yal...I don't care
..I rock the with lunatics......St lunatics for life...I even fuks with the guy that wears the.mask....yall remember the foo that he just wears the.mask...he don't rap
Damn Nelly, you didn't have to shit on them like that. My son cost me money, I will never refer to him as a liability. The love for him won't allow me!
But them grown men not his minor children.
Your son is a fukn liability no matter if you admit it or not😂
He is a got damn liability that’s the reality!
Your obligated to take care your child tho lol Nelly ain’t obligated to take care them grown as men 😂😂😂😂 they are liabilities because say they do some shit because they grown ass men making they own decisions while on tour with Nelly, he gone take heat for whatever it is they doing without his permission 😂
Ain't no friends in business
Murphy Lee & Ali were my favorite ❤
When Nelly say the word ‘Dime ‘ it sounds very unmanly 😂
Very!
Die-muh
Nas he sound like kirk Franklin on that one i thought he was a pastor
"not a dime-mah". Might as well sucked his teeth too. Lol
😂😂😂😂😂
He didn't call his FRIENDS liabilities, he called his BUSINESS PARTNERS liabilities.
Big difference
@@lewisedwards2221 my point exactly.
nelly aint lying about how the shows go if its a nelly shiw and they go he gotta split his chicken wit em
why ppl act like they don't understand that. they did get paid by being there.
Why have them as a crew if you really feel that way about them.....if Nelly could have done it alone why didn't he just do that....
Mofos want you to put them on and continue to feed them instead of learning the game for themselves…..
@@TH-lt6yj Honestly they had no lane. Nelly got out on by the machine....they never asked for them dudes in the first place even though they started as a group....
Nelly and artist like Ja Rule have no underground following to keep them relevant ... Just a gimmick artist
Nelly had the sound the voice I would never know about none of them if Nelly didn't do interviews
So what clown, thats just you.
Bro really got a beanie over his hat 💀💀💀💀💀😂😂😂😂
“This is a business, you ain't too far gone to see that yet.” Purple Rain!
Bro spoke business facts.
Nelly made a very painful point....that's tuff!
Damn, be thankful for true people that care about you and love you for nothing..
🎯🎯right he sound like straight sucka for this. Hollywood ass. Smmfh.
Nelly talking dollars and cents. But the st lunatics brought some value…Nelly just didn’t want to see the real value they fund bring. Bc everybody is worth something in the circle.
That's what happens when you get the "Big Head"..💯👍
Watch the entire interview. They made moves to get deals without Nelly. Nelly didn't sign off on his deal without trying to help the crew. They were making diss records about him in his studio...how Nelly supposed to feel. None of them denied what Nelly said.
All FACTS I watch the full interview and understand all of what he was talking about. Like he said how you all didn't get paid and city spud did and he was locked up. They just want free money.
I'm glad I did... bcuz these snippets don't ever do anyone justice
Now if that's true, they ain't shit. But Nelly could b making it up to look good, on record. Nelly wasn't raw. Never cared for him TBH. He did nothing for hip hop💯
No they didn't. And if you personally knew them, you wouldn't be expecting them to. Not saying you are at all.
However, for me when I do anything for anyone from my heart, Idc what!!
Im never going to hurl it out my mouth, NO MATTER WHAT 💯
HERE IN THE STL KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WHAT'S FOR EACH OF THEM IS FOR THEM. ALLL OF THESE BRUTHRS ARE DOING JUST FINE. 💯💯❤️
@@jamelrodriguez1615 lol this puppet as shit you know this man gone lie to make hisself standout…point being he ended up where they at he just got into marketing to save his hide…talk indifferent but with the same fate maybe karma idk
This is the downside of wanting to help your friends. Sometimes you have to be realistic and understand they just don’t have what it takes. They should be able to keep it moving alone shortly after you give them opportunity, not you having to take care of them forever.
Absolutely not but anybody and everybody that had a part in the show or videos gets paid from his company.That like me going to my shift at work he hospital and the owners come in and tell us the employees we are liabilities. If it’s his company they are his employees because I’m not just going to pay them for 15 years just to do it
He said liability like a white Nelly 😭
Na he said it like the way Tip says expeditiously 🤣
it sounds like the saint lunatics needed their own management teams to make Nellie's statements false or void. if your management is not negotiating on your behalf to get you paid then you got the wrong management
Murphy Lee is a real one 💯
I believe Nelly opened the box of Pandora 😳
He did I kno fasho
Murphy created a whole wave and Nelly did nothing with him
murphy did nothing with himself
@@landjmack2263 stupid if you sign to me I control your career.. so what is Murphy supposed to do
Murphy wasn’t signed to Nelly
He tried - he even put Murphy on that Bad Boys 2 soundtrack. You know damn well Puff only wanted Nelly on that
@@OfficialDemego facts
I understand, people do settle and get content. Nelley just opened his eyes.
Nelly just speaking the facts tho 😆
That’s the difference between people like Nelly and the Master P’s or 50’s of the world. P and 50 did everything they could to promote they boys. Did shows wit em. Hopped on they shit. All I’m they videos and all that. U think Lloyd Banks or Sylkk the Shocker was legit bringing in money? Or u think if 50 and P did they own shows, they woulda been able to pocket all the money instead of show love. Every other month Nelly do some ish I just can’t get wit
@@derrickstone4030 it’s cool
When they do it. It’s a problem when Nelly do it.
True facts! Everybody that starts with you is not meant to finish with you! Sometimes you have to shed a few pounds in order to live a healthier life style!
naw nigga that's bs straight up
Couldn't have been said better, dead weight ain't good for anyone in any place, except at the gym.
It's sad to see things end up like this because they started off as a team Nelly just admitted that money was really the reason why he cut them loose...DAM Nelly carmely
Black folks
Caller: hello, I want to book St. Lunatics for a concert in the UK...
SAID NO CALLER EVER!
Now I got to take you and your girlfriends, pay for the flight, your meals, city tours, your outfits etc. Whether you like it or not, you were just a help. Nobody paid 200 pounds to come watch you. It's not about feelings, it business. You don't deserve as much as you think you do.
Black people can never understand the money side of business. If the money is not coming in you cannot pay staffs, travel, buy instruments, pay artists etc...and they are not marketable on their own. Business does not work like that.
Go watch the dam interview,, smh .. he not saying he didn't take them,, HE SAYING HE DIDN'T HAVE TOO!! .. Point is he payed them to come
15 years is a long time to help out grown man yall tripping
Nelly was actually right, but if Nelly wanted those guys to still have his back, he shouldn’t have said that out loud.
I totally agree. Nelly statement is pure fact, but why disclose this via the internet?
Nelly ain’t lying. He’s speaking facts.
Nigga Murphy Lee had hit songs
Nelly speaking facts
You see how dudes really feel about they friends smh could've just left them back down the way if you felt like that
Nelly was speaking facts on them nigga's 💯 You get tired of carrying all the weight. I believe Nelly.
He's supposed to put his ppl on. I think he has enough money.
@@jamesgish9202 He got all them niggas deals, after that is on them to get their solo careers hot. Nelly can’t be responsible for what grown niggas do or don’t do.
@James Gish Putting your people on and taking care of ungrateful people that diss you and talk shit about you behind your back are two different things. Sorry, but I disagree.
They wrote most of the stuff he was rapping. He was getting paid off what they wrote. He was just selfish.
What is that beanie doing
He a lunatic 🤷🏾🤣🤣
@@ronaldsimmons6574 😂😂😂😂😂
@@ronaldsimmons6574 😂😂
Scully hat on top of baseball cap..country asf...lol
Look like it's just chillin
When you understand assets and liabilities you’ll understand what Nelly’s saying. An house is an asset but the bills are liabilities 🤷🏽♂️
The house is a liability also!
I appreciate the analogy but most bills are needed liabilities: that mofo needs energy, heat, water, insurance and maintenance. I like to think of them as asset's executive assistants, if you will lol
😂😂😂
@@jamaalhorton2343 Your home falls in the asset category even if you have not paid it entirely off. The value assigned to your home can be the amount you paid to purchase it, the taxable value or the current market value based on how other houses are selling in your neighborhood.
Okayyyyy but you can't get rid of that painful liability. It comes with the pkg.
Uncle Sam is a liability. I have a good job, but Uncle Sam wants to jock my pimp juice🥴
The way Nelly say "you are a liability" got me weak asf😂😂😂
Tf Type Of Swagg Is That? Dude Got Two Hats On 💀
Nelly speaks facts. As a man you need to bring value
He wasn’t speaking that then, and they “St lunatics” made him more popular, they were good friends, he let the $$ get to his head.
@@nicholaswilkinson9512 that why people need to rely on themselves and not their friends
Nelly turned into a pastor towards the end of the conversation 🤣
I just spit up my water 😭😂😂
When he said not!!! dime!!! And liability, he put emphasis on it lol😂
Man the lunatics is the main reason I liked Nelly songs
Me too. They were great
The work liability hurt his soul🤣🤣🤣
Nelly has a point, except for Murph, Murph was the only one who went to work on his solo album, and was suppose to drop another solo back to back but Ali put his kinfolk collab album with BIg Gip. Nelly's first solo sold gold which made it possible for all tics to have solo options with Universal. Murph took advantage of the opportunity that Nelly set up for everybody.
Honestly Murphy could’ve been bigger than Nelly. And I fucks with Nelly but from a rapping/lyrical standpoint Murthy’s verses stood out just the same as Nellys if we being real.
@@thegreatone6272 I don't think so, murph was more lyrical but lyrical rappers songs dont preform the best and don't come across as catch enough. Loyld Banks was the most lyrical out of G-unit but his songs didn't come across the best from an entertainment perspective like 50 cents and Bucks! Murph's sophomore album could of went platinum again, if Ali wasn't in his feelings about his solo debute flop and then try to recover with Goodie Mob's Big Gip!
@@thegreatone6272 come on!! You are spot on! Murphy Lee has always been hotter than Nelly in my opinion
Nelly said "LIABILITY" with so much emphasis it made me wanna send him some bread... Damn! 😂
You can’t feed 5 grown men and their families forever. When you are young you don’t understand that perspective. They are grown men they know Nelly is right 🤣