EURO 2024 | Ranking Netherlands Players!

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  • Football-Oranje's Michael Statham and Abdul Alrifaee go through the current Netherlands squad options to pick out the best players and the positions that still need to be improved. Agree? Disagree? Comment your thoughts below!
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  • @qbania
    @qbania 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Zirkzee looks like the real deal. th-cam.com/video/hEZXA2irFZs/w-d-xo.html Zirkzee, Xavi, Depay, Gakpo, Stengs, Lang, and I guess Weghorst for late game option should be our strike force.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Two games in March to prove himself!

  • @generationxevolution6007
    @generationxevolution6007 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The key areas that needs considerations is RW and RCM.
    -Zirkzee over brobbey. He is a better overall striker. Three strikers shud be Depay, zirkzee, brobbey. Weghorst shud be dropped
    - Matusiwa shud be called for the two friendlys before deciding on de roon and koopmeiners/ veerman/schouten
    - if Danjuma can get his career back on track I think he could be instrumental. Super sub
    - I Danjuma if he can get his career back on track. He shud be in the squad

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Danjuma is one that I forgot to add to this! Good spot! He isn't important enough for his club at the moment but he did have a very promising 6 months once for club and country that made us think he could be an answer in attack!

    • @zmmz3474
      @zmmz3474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Danjuma should be an alternative if he can regain back his form before march@@FootballOranje

    • @zmmz3474
      @zmmz3474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree Zirkzee and matusiwa should be called up

  • @michaelvandertogt1971
    @michaelvandertogt1971 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun vid. Disagree ‘bout few things only.. koopmeiners is playing 10 at Atalanta. Stengs doesnt join the squad if its up to me. Just doesnt have te level.
    Brobbey will be the top striker. Hartman unfortunately is out for the rest of the season so maybe Maatsen will get a call?
    Verbruggen
    Dumfries de vrij v dijk vd ven ake
    Reijnders frenkie
    Xavi Gakpo
    Brobbey

  • @richardbrown-gt3dq
    @richardbrown-gt3dq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So long to wait. At least the Asian and African cup start soon.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...and the rest of the Eredivisie season!

  • @MattijnPlayz
    @MattijnPlayz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My starting XI (at least right now) would be: 3-5-2
    Bijlow
    De Vrij, Van Dijk, Aké
    Dumfries, Schouten, De Jong, Hartman
    Xavi
    Gakpo, Memphis
    With Verbruggen, Flekken, De Ligt, Van de Ven, Blind, Frimpong, Reijnders, Koopmeiners, Wieffer, Veerman, Lang and Brobbey in the squad as alternative options.
    I really want to see Schouten next to Frenkie, but if that turns out to not work that well I believe Reijnders will do a good job there or Wieffer. De Vrij can be subbed by preferably Van de Ven (He has been great thi season) or De Ligt (though season so far with injuries and Kim Min Jae being a beast for Bayern but he is still a very good player). If we were to play with 3 attackers I would play Lang on the left, Memphis through the middle and Gakpo on the right but you can also try Frimpong as a right winger, he already plays in a very attacking role at Leverkusen.
    We will see what Koeman will do in the upcomming friendlies.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for your thoughts! Agree with lots of them. It would be great to see Schouten, and he is a realistic shout next to De Jong if we need someone technical but defensive minded. I still think Reijnders is the number 8 that offers balance to the midfield, but Schouten could be useful towards the end of the tournament if we need someone to sit deep or if Reijnders is injured or out of form.

    • @LUGIGGGGGG
      @LUGIGGGGGG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At end of the season now, would you put Van De Ven in?

    • @MattijnPlayz
      @MattijnPlayz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LUGIGGGGGG Yes over De Vrij

  • @look5000
    @look5000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good video! My only disagreement is I don't think it's necessary to take both Botman and Van de Ven especially with Ake already in the squad. Also I would definitely take either Schouten or Wieffer since I believe they are the only pure defensive midfielders who could play next to De Jong. For example in a 4-3-3 Schouten could anchor the midfield alongside De Jong with Reijnders just ahead.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah really like this suggestion. I have a soft spot for Schouten's style of play, so would quite like him going to the Euros somehow.

    • @zmmz3474
      @zmmz3474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would prefer Matusiwa ahead of Schouten and Wieffer@@FootballOranje

  • @rayansalmon1775
    @rayansalmon1775 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My European team

  • @zachmouw9314
    @zachmouw9314 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Malen is awful. Inconsistent and predictable.
    Zirkzee is closer to the starting 11 than to being dropped in my opinion.
    Interesting to see how much people seem to value Dumfries. He is very good at making big moments happen with his work rate and intelligence. But his touch is bad and slow and he can be pressed to great effect. I would honestly prefer Frimpong to start or, better yet, go back to 4 at the back with Dumfries at fullback and Frimpong as the wide midfielder in front of him. Having 2 players on the wing especially with that much speed will keep opponents honest. Why do you think the 2010 team didn’t get pressed to death every game with that back line? Robben and Kuyt worked hard to get in behind and make teams think twice about being over aggressive.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting comments...Zirkzee will need to prove himself in March. As for Dumfries, he offers a lot in the final third and he is a hard worker for sure. His best position is the right-wing back role.

  • @pus1546
    @pus1546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Weghorst must in starting XI if you want to win, not Xavi Simons 🤦🏻🤦🏻

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you are in a minority if you want Weghorst in the XI! He was important when there were injuries, but he can't be relied upon to win a Euros.

  • @Jacknicknila
    @Jacknicknila 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not easy with many injuries and questions.
    If all is well and normal.
    23 guys are:
    Verbruggen
    Bijlow
    Flekken
    Dumfries
    Frimpong
    De Vrij
    De Ligt
    Virgil
    Ake
    Van de Ven
    J. Timber
    Hartman
    Frenkie
    Reijnders
    Veerman
    Gravenberch.
    Koopmeiners
    Simons
    Wieffer
    Gakpo
    Memphis
    Brobbey
    Lang
    In the mix
    Bergwijn
    Malen
    Zirkzee
    J Timber
    Q Timber
    Schouten
    Koeman will pick shite Weghorst
    Blind
    Maybe De Roon

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha yeah Koeman will have some predictable choices! Gravenberch is a surprise from yours. We all know he has the potential but can he do enough to make it this June...

  • @daveandreo7324
    @daveandreo7324 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would respectfully disagree with the idea of Brobbey being ahead of Zirkzee. To be honest, Zirkzee is evolving to be one of our best strikers so far for this generation.
    His adaptability with the Italian competition which is renown for their sturdy defending system and seemingly displaying an outstanding performance against it makes him deserve to be included in the upcoming summer tournament.
    He's now one of the key players for Bologna that brings them in the top tier of the Serie A. I think that should be an evidence for his deservedness. Overlooking a pivotal figure like him wouldn't be a wise option

    • @qbania
      @qbania 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree just based off of what I"m seeing in highlights, he looks like a pure finisher, Brobbey doesn't... YET

  • @aidanteeter8995
    @aidanteeter8995 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel like if we’re going to play a 5-3-2 system and want to have Xavi in the starting 11 he has to play behind the 2 strikers in midfield. He plays behind strikers in his club and look how he excels. With 2 proper strikers in front of him this can allow him to pick passes and be lethal going forward. What do you guys think?

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a great suggestion! So who would you have as the two strikers? Memphis and Brobbey? Does it matter if the two are strong or quick?

    • @aidanteeter8995
      @aidanteeter8995 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FootballOranjeI think Brobbey 100% as of now he obviously needs to keep up with his current form and Memphis if fit (that’s a big ask lol) if not gakpo instead. This can work really well but you would really have to use frimpong and push him down that right side. Let me know what do you think maybe try this in march? not much time to try new things tho.

    • @qbania
      @qbania 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think Xavi has had what 9-10 games for Oranje? and I'm not overly impressed. I think he's on the team, but he's not a Key 11 for me.... YET

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@qbania I think that can all change in March and at the Euros. He has so much ability. You know it'll only take one goal to set him going in Oranje

  • @melheno
    @melheno 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let's be honest. Malen has talent but is Lazy, his workrate is Low. Malen needs a fitness coach, sometimes he gains like 8kg becomes useless and then drops the weight and starts scoring. Noa Lang started season great, but got injured we could not see him play for Oranje or PSV for months, lets hope he comes back strong. Depay's fitness is another issue, can he come back and start playing 90 minutes or we could see him again injured before the tournament. De Roon, Blind: too old too slow. De Roon plays CB in Atalanta this season. We have 40 better CBs than De Roon.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair comments. Fitness of Depay and Lang definitely concerning. I didn't know that Lang is still expected to be out after Christmas?

    • @zmmz3474
      @zmmz3474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lang is very an interesting and explosive player when on form. He should be an alternative

  • @martijn_yt
    @martijn_yt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The depth of the current dutch team is unprecedented. Even the best teams in the past were still dependent on a few stars. This time the group of talents is so deep tbat the absence of players like Frenkie de Jong and Koopmeiners does not cause serious problems. But it also gives us the possibility of changing our strategy or bringing in new players in the last phase of a game without sacraficing any quality :)

  • @qbania
    @qbania 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey guys I just watched this, a few days late. Great video, thanks for sharing. Assuming we play 5-3-2 to start then 4-3-3. Here's my 23.
    1. Bijlow
    2. Verbruggen
    3. #3 Goalie (Who cares who it is, call back Van Der Sar)
    4. Van Dijk
    5. Ake
    6. De Vrij
    7. De Ligt
    8. Hartman
    9. Dumfries
    10. Frimpong
    11. De Jong
    12. Reijnders
    13. Veerman
    14. Simons
    15. Depay
    16. Weghorst
    17. Gakpo
    18. Lang
    19. Stengs
    For next 3 spots pick 3 from this list of 9, likely whomever is on best form, or needed in a backup role.
    Botman, J. Timber, V D Ven, Gravenberch, Koopmeiners, Schouten, Wieffer, Brobbey , Bergwijn
    20.
    21.
    22.
    My choice for #23 is to give the position to the most promising young player to get tournament experience.
    I'm hoping it is Zirkzee, Hato, or Dallinga
    23.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said. Lots of spots already decided, and only a few to go who will go to in-form players.

  • @melheno
    @melheno 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GKs: Verbrugen, Bijlow, Flekken. We do not have outstanding GK but Verbrugen should start in my opinion. Bijlow, sloppy, injury prone and not convincing.
    Deffenders. Hartman, AKe (LB). Dumfries, Frimpong RWB. CBs: Van de Ven / Botman, Virgil, De Vrij / De Ligt,.
    Midfield: Reijnders, De jong, Gravenberg. Koopenmeiners, Veerman.
    Attack. Lang, Gakpo, Simmons, Depay, Brobbey, Weghorst.
    Starting XI. Verbruggen, Ake, Van de ven, Van Dijk, De Ligt, Dumfries, Reijnders, De Jong, Gakpo, Depay, Simmons.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aké at left-wing back is a surprise move. Hopefully Bijlow picks up enough form to convince you -- injuries have held him back, otherwise I think he's a very strong keeper.

    • @melheno
      @melheno 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FootballOranje We have RWB who constantly goes forward, Ake is not gonna play wing back but LB because Dumfries mostly playing forward. We have good LWs but no Right wing so we can play a little asymmetric. From left side LW will attack, from right side RWB will attack. In addition we need our best XI to play and I consider Ake, Van de Ven or Botman more proven more deserving than Hartman. Hartman will switch ake to LCB which he can play but he is undersized at that position and will leave our 2nd best CB defender Van de Ven out of the squad.
      CB s I chose tall and physical so that we are dangerous during our corners and safe during opposition corners.

  • @zerorappp146
    @zerorappp146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zirkze Out ? What a joke...He is the most wanted and prolific star in Serie A... one of the best leagues in Europe. Brobbey only plays in Eredivise a much easy tournament, and dont have the talent of Zirkze. Finaly we have a good striker for the oranje.... and you put him out.... ?

  • @cheungkelvin6918
    @cheungkelvin6918 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With Van de Beek finally finding his way out, I hope he will regain his top form and be part of the midfield consortium. He was intelligent and timed his runs into the box so well.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree. Let's hope he refinds his form. Perhaps this tournament is too soon for him, like J Timber and Malacia, and maybe in the next cycle he will be relevant again.

  • @HamsaT12
    @HamsaT12 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We have to be realistic about Blind. He is going to the euros. The guy is a key player for a Girona side that is challenging for the league. I think Koeman mentioned that once in his press conference. He deserves it imo!
    Also Malen should've been picked over Brobbey. He is more versatile and gives our attack something different compared to Brobbey.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes we shouldn't ignore Blind's form for his club! He is going to the Euros, and it'll probably be instead of one of the centre back options that we named.
      As for Malen, I disagree at the moment. Has he done enough to go ahead of one of the other pacey attacking options?

    • @zmmz3474
      @zmmz3474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blind will definitely be on the plane. He still have something to give plus to the Team esp. the younger ones need a "mentor" that can influence and make others perform better

  • @Jorritwit
    @Jorritwit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like the idea of this video, but I can't see any of the players names.

  • @jondevries9150
    @jondevries9150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zirkzee over Weghorst all day long. I don't get Weghorst at all. So underwhelming.

    • @pus1546
      @pus1546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no way. hater is always blind and stupid

    • @jondevries9150
      @jondevries9150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pus1546 Watch both of them for their clubs and tell me if you feel the same way. We need to start building our future talent... not hang on to washed up players who aren't even in their starting 11 for their clubs. Wout isn't a difference maker. He's often invisible in an orange shirt. Neither of them should start over a fit Memphis or Gakpo... but I'd rather have Zirkzee as an option.

    • @pus1546
      @pus1546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jondevries9150nope, disagree with all what you had say. I prefer experience player and senior player, and Weghorst has proven it that he is very good player

    • @jondevries9150
      @jondevries9150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pus1546 He has? We haven't had a proper striker since VanPersie. He's been one of our only options and average at best. I hope you are right. I really do... but at some point you have to push talent over experience - Otherwise we'd be starting Wijnaldum.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if there is room for both in the squad next to Memphis? Drop Brobbey/Dallinga.

  • @mouseDown83
    @mouseDown83 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good vid!

  • @lloydricky6267
    @lloydricky6267 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zirkzee is the future striker for sure!

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Let's hope he remains on an upward trajectory!

    • @dodivol
      @dodivol 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zirkzee is not an out and out striker he is more in Bergkamp style. I do not understand that NOT ONE SO CALLED PROFESSIONAL COACH has SEEn THIS, HIS A VERY CREATIVE PLAYER AND SHOULD BE PAIRED WITH BROBBEY AS THE BEST STRIKING DUO FOR ORANJE IN THE COMING YEARS.

  • @shahal145
    @shahal145 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bijlow
    Dumfries Van Dijk Van Ake Hartman
    De Jong Tijjani Reijnders
    Xavi Simons
    Frimpong Gakpo
    Memphis/Brobbey

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Frimpong and Dumfries! Adventurous!

  • @DanielSilvaFav
    @DanielSilvaFav 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. I expect more videos like this. I follow your work and I am a fan fanatic for the Dutch team, even being ordinary Brazilian, who never met the Netherlands and not even have Dutch origin.

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the kind words! Let's see what we have in store for the future 🙌

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the kind words! Let's see what we have in store for the future 🙌

  • @canchinflinhero8658
    @canchinflinhero8658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice choices! I think Blind should be selected, not only he's been great for Girona, but also, there isn't another left wingback alternative to Hartman.

    • @zmmz3474
      @zmmz3474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mitchel Bakker can be an option

    • @canchinflinhero8658
      @canchinflinhero8658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zmmz3474 Could be! Haven't really followed him at Atalanta. Not sure if he's playing regularly tho.

    • @qbania
      @qbania 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ake can play LB. But not LWB, but still, I'd rather save the roster spot for MF or up front.

  • @decemberdecember4401
    @decemberdecember4401 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Malen what is he doing in Dortmund?? What he has done in oranje?.. De roon still back up? This is modern day football and era of rodri, kimmich, declan rice, tomas partey, why he is even considered??. Blind is close to become grand pa.. Blind has one of the best brain in football, so do have seadorf, cocu, do we need to call them aa back up??

    • @FootballOranje
      @FootballOranje  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

    • @martijn_yt
      @martijn_yt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marten de Roon is captain of Europa League winner Atalanta, but still has no problem doing all the dirty work no one notices, so the 'star' players can shine.
      Blind is currently the undisputed strategic brain of Girona, which is challenging all the top teams of Spain.
      Why would you not want to have both of them in your team ? ;)

    • @decemberdecember4401
      @decemberdecember4401 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@martijn_yt blind play as left center back, which is stuffed with Ake, virgil and van de ven.. He lacks the pace to be left back, and DM.. Period.. He will be targeted.. Weak point... Girona has not won anything.. Girona is not blind... Girona still a mid table team.. One time wonder... Martin de roon is not press resistant player.. He is a midtable or average club player.. He got in capatiancy with senioirty and age... I doubt with de roon they would beat Leverkusen at final.. Its modern football rodri, camavinga, choumeni, declan rice, they rule the world, not de roon...