You know FSD is improving when we've gone from running stop signs, driving in bus lanes and hard braking for no reason, to now only critiquing the safety judgements of the FSD "driver".
It is still running a stop sign, breaking for no reason, trying to hit curbs, and more up here in WA. If anything, v12 has been regression, aside from the steering being smoother. But I’m glad it’s improving in CA at least.
Getting these frequent updates is nice, but be aware, that we will most likely be around version 16-18 by the time it will reach a fully releasable 1.0 level commercial product. So we wil still need 12.3.7, 12.3.8, 12.3.9, then 12.4, 12.4.2, 12.4.3 ... then 12.5, 12.5.2, 12.5.3 ... then 12.6 all the way to version 13, THEN we will need 13.1.2, 13.1.3. ...then 13.2, 13.2.2, 13.2.3 .......... all the way to version 14, THEN alll the waaay to version 15, THEN all the waaaay to version 16. We will then be in 2026-2028, and it will clear up a little bit more if we still need version 17 and version 18 before the commercial release of a 1.0 software. They could start a robotaxi service next year in some towns with a hundred cars per town like Cruise or Waymo BUT OF COURSE that could only work with teleoperation, so when the cars need intervention every 10-20-30 minutes, then sy would teleoperate it. So this won't move the needle. What we need is a software that is ready and has level 5 capability. An average human experiences a fatal chrash per 100 million miles, an accident every 500 thousand miles. Tesla will need to show that they are at least 2 times better than humans, and to do that with 99% confidence level, you just have to multiply those numbers with 10. So they have to reach a level, where there's no intervention in 5 million miles (you can't request intervention in a level 5 car!), AND there's no fatal crash in a BILLION miles. They have to improve the software at the very least a HUNDRED THOUSAND times, BUT if you calculate the 5 million miles with an average speed of 40 miles/ hour, then from another point of view they should get to a level, where there is no intervention required for 125000 hours of driving. Nowadays they are at 5-30 minutes between interventions. If you use the generous 30 minute, then still they would need a 250.000 times improvement. So they still have an ENORMOUS CHALLENGE TO SOLVE! The news from China and Europe is fine, but that's just the first step in those locations. The final commercial 1.0 product is still 2-7 years away. Of course there's absolutely no assurance, that they will get there EVER. It may very well be the case, that they need to dream up and implement some kind of cognitive modell that sits above this version of the software that just learns from videos. Nobody knows. They will need an ungodly amount of luck (and data and compute etc.).
@@mrthegrievous How do you know all of this? It sounds like you either have inside info from the Tesla FSD team or you are just guessing. There isn't enough history to predict how many SW rolls there will be or how fast they will come. The changes from V11 to the latest V12 are way faster than I expected.
@@catbert7I rented a Model Y last weekend to try it out in NC south of Raleigh. It was both impressive and terrifying. It did some things well and was a far cry from human like in other regards. But, it shows promise.
I did a test drive of a standard Model S today and it had fsd 12.3.4. I was so impressed with how good it actually drives. You really do have to feel it while you are in the drivers seat. Im 18 and I was driving with my dad and he didn't even know I turned it on until I told him. Also the 0-60 in 3.1 seconds of the standard model s felt actually insane, I cant imagine the plaid.
@@charlesw1973 Well ofc. I have my license and I was paying attention with fsd just as much as without fsd. But I see your point, people shouldn't rely on it yet, but one day sure.
I used to be a Tesla disbeliever. This video in addition to 10s of other recent videos I've watched convinced me Tesla might be ahead of the game more than many realize. I had the opportunity to try Mercedes Drive Pilot this weekend and I had to disengage so much. The restrictions for where L3 will actually work was a joke. Basically just say it barely works anywhere.
It’s they not might be ahead of the game. They are. Waaaaaay ahead. I got my 2024 Model 3 last Tuesday and have been using FSD all day everyday. It’s absolutely amazing. Not without some oddities, but those are rare. It does a fantastic job 99% of the time. The 1% has been easy to adjust and really tough for a human.
Mercedes “L3” Autopilot is nothing but a marketing hoax to trick people who don’t read the fine print. It’s a worse product than Tesla’s Autopilot, just with more restrictions on where and when it can be used, so that they could get the regulators to approve it as L3.
Last Thursday i was in my model X using 12.3.5 and was able to experience the car recognize a pedestrian hand signal to go ahead, and watch the car act accordingly. It was pretty cool.!
I’ve had the same experience, in a construction area a worker waved me to go to the other lane and the car on full self driving did! Also, last night as I was driving on a curvy road, FSD slowed down for rabbits crossing the road… AMAZING!
@@Austin_H7 theres definitely clips that its been trained on where humans do that, but theres so few it really never recognize any. Probably only does it like 2% of the time
It is a pleasure to watch the movements of the steering wheel. Very very smooth, as if guided by the hand of a professional chauffeur. It inspires a lot of confidence.
New Tesla owner here. 2024 Model 3. It’s such an amazing car. Been using FSD since Tuesday. It’s what this video is a more. It’s absolutely amazing how good it is. The decision making is jaw dropping in 99% of weird events. It’s not PERFECT, but it’s damn close.
Thank you so much for the real-time drive with commentary. The real-time makes it feel like we’re riding in the car, and your commentary helps us understand all the implications of what the car is doing.
It’s much worse in many other places but nice to see it is at our near Robo-ready in some cities. I hope it can start getting there in other parts of the country. Progress here has been non-existent for years…
Great video tutorial as usual while I’m in the queue for this FSD update. Your videos have made me and my wife confident enough to drive the 4000 miles round-trip to the eclipse in Texas. Thanks.
The boy called wolf many times. So often that people stopped paying attention. Then one day the wolf DID appear. But instead of devouring the unaware, the wolf saved 10s of thousands of lives per year in the village. THE END (of the beginning)
Just my view, it would be nice to switch the map and fsd display, watching a car follow GPS isn’t as impressive as being able to see what FSD sees. We can’t see the display above the steering wheel that well.. great video
Your videos are so good it is hard to over praise them - what a service they are to Tesla. Your commentary is always insightful, calm and critical where there is room for improvement... but I have to say that v12.x.x is super impressive and I agree with others here who are saying the public and Wall street needs to see your videos and open their eyes to how good DSD 12 is. Keep up the amazing work 👍
Please keep these videos coming. I know it's a lot of work, but it really is showing the raw reality of the incremental improvement of Tesla software and your objective opinion and first hand footage are far superior evidence to that of the mainstream media. You're doing great things here.
That was pretty smooth. Fantastic progress! Loved how it caught the U-turn guy I had a thought when you said about speeding up to catch that green and people would get a bit annoyed that their ride is taking a a bit longer. I don't think they'd notice in a fully Autonomous Cyber Cab. There'd be no steering wheel/pedals most likely the seats would be facing "in" so you'd be chatting to each other. If you were alone you'd likely be on your phone or tablet, especially if there's free wi-fi in the vehicle. Then that thought led onto another, would you even need windows in a Cyber Cab? Hopefully we'll have FSD in the UK by the time I'm ready for a Model 3!
The line is now starting to blur between FSD and a person driving. Just a few more iterations and it’ll start to surpass us at an accelerated rate. Very impressive indeed👍
I certainly feel more confident with my FSD than a new passenger who’s never experienced it. FSD has come a very long way since my first Tesla ordered in 2012. Looking forward to get an update from my 12.3.4.
Stopping at the yellow light at 9:22 ,,I would likely have done the same since the light was yellow 2.5 sec .This is better than as you point out slamming on the brakes at any yellow light like the older FSD versions
Very interesting. Your X is a vision only model X (Hw4)? I'm in Fremont and tenpted to test it out (during the free trial period everyone just got), but the streets on this side of the bay are not marked as well as in the city.
Don't know about everyone else but I appreciate your commentary so much. Excellent job. I'm almost brokenhearted when you post the videos with just a music track and your explanation of what you are seeing with the car's behavior is missing!
The FSD v.12.3.6 drive quality looks superb. But there were no real limits tests here that demonstrated some phenomenal improvement or positive new behavior. Out here in the rural wilds of northern New England, I'm seeing FSD make remarkable improvements. At the same time, on a 500 mile rt to central Maine this weekend FSD (12.3.4) required two critical interventions: one of which for a one-lane road construction scenario that it handled well in the past; the second for bad parking lot exit planning, then an attempted U-turn in a 4 lane intersection but not planning the turn radius well enough, set to impact sidewalks and light pole. Neither took place at high speed, reasonably clear anticipation of the FSD intervention about to become necessary.
I may disagree with being impatient when the car is driving on its own. I can understand the frustration when you are fully engaged in supervised mode, but not when it eventually reaches the unsupervised end goal for FSD. I used to travel on business frequently and had to deal with all types of cab and limo drivers (some were so bad that they had no business driving at all). I’m willing to take a few minutes longer by an autonomous car if I can feel comfortable enough to ignore its actions and spend my time working in the back seat and not be concerned about what is going on around the car. Thanks for your great videos!!! 😊😊😊
Thanks for the vid. One question: how are you able to operate FSD without touching the steering wheel? In my car I’m required to apply slight pressure or I’ll be locked out.
In our industry there is a triangle which says Safety, Journey, Speed which also is applicable to FSD, you can’t speed up without reducing journey experience, as well as for Safety you need to be slower which also will may be not the best journey experience, so bottom line it is a balancing act on the above three elements which we should accept as FSD.
Thanks for the post. I'm curious why you never have to touch the steering wheel. We have the latest FSD software, but ours requires you to touch the steering wheel often.
Great video! FSD 12.3.6 looks amazing! This is the first time I've seen your channel, and I just subscribed to your channel and liked this video. One question... FSD stops at least one complete car length before the stopped car in front of it. This is not normal, at least on the East Coast. Please comment on this point. Thank you!
Thanks for the video. I have a question. What if you had 10 Tesla cars with FSD with the same navigation target... Would they all drive in the exact same way or can it "think different" in each car?
I noticed at round the 8:30 mark of the video, the car was driving at 30mph whilst it had just gone past a max speed 25 sign (and had that depicted in the dash, so knew about it). Is that a setting you can make in FSD that allows it to go slightly above the limit and could you therefore not allow the car to do so? What would trigger the car to do so there rather than anywhere else, where it tended to stay under?
Looks great. Do you not have to touch the steering wheel once in a while? I didn't see it bug you to do it. I have problems with school zones, left turns, and construction. Please show us more of the problem areas. School zones with children present is a big problem in my 12.3.4. I hope they fix it. Thanks.
Amazing! Very safe and smooth. I cannot wait for it to be legal in Europe, but at the current prices, I will pass. It is not a private chauffeur or robotaxi that will get you home from a party when you have had one too many. You have to be alert to not get killed. Unless the prices come down, I will spend my money on a top-of-the-line professional camera that I for years have considered too expensive, which is still way cheaper than FSD. Billionaires don’t seem to grasp what ordinary people can afford. At least in the US, the prices have come down, which is a good thing. I look forward to seeing the future here in Europe too (I don't understand why it is illegal as the driver is still the fallback).
For the robotaxi, I wonder if it is able to recognize a low battery and then drive itself to the nearest supercharger while sending a message to the owner. It should have the ability to determine if the battery level is not enough for the next trip, it would drop itself from ride availability. Later, the car would be able to charge itself without having a person to physically plug in the charging handle.
It would be good if you also mention at the beginning of your drive what mode you have selected (incl acceleration and minimal lane changes). This will be helpful for new users watching.Thx!
Do you notice hard braking when the light turns yellow and it's somewhat close to the line? Humans would just continue and even v11 did that but V12 slams on the brakes for me. Sometimes it does coast through but it very quickly taps in the brakes then goes. So I'm curious
14:07 this is the reason why V12 has been declared to be capable of driving in Europe too. Good reflexes and response time by the cpu and gpu are what is needed in Countries like Italy that have narrow streets and very unexpected behaviors from the other drivers. Bravo to the Tesla AI team, hope to see this software running in UE soon, as we heard from the latest news.
Does FSD have a pre-training step where it simply predicts the next video frame? So they could do massive unsupervised training similar to how LLMs so it. Then a post/training alignment step to make it learn the desired driving style?
I have never heard anyone describing how Tesla AI works exactly. I have only seen its “dreams” - in the form of video frames predicting the future. But I recall a Tesla employee describing the goal of user experience in the future. You would suppose to be able to enter some kind of learning mode. Then you drive manually for some time. And AI learns your habits. Then, when FSD is turned on, it will use this data to better match your expectations and your driving style.
Every Tesla has TWO copies of the FSD HARDWARE computer (cpu, memory, double inputs…) It does this for more reliable FSD output. However: Often it will make use of this when the driver is NOT using FSD….. the car will use the SECOND (unused) system in SHADOW mode to make predictive decisions and then COMPARE them to what the HUMAN driver is actually doing…. The car can then upload this data if FSD notices discrepancies, along with compressed video data…. Somehow DOJO uses this to train on.
I think FSD waiting for the guy who wasn't on his bike is a weird one. The guy could have walked the bike so in an extreme case, FSD was right to wait.
I wonder if it learned something from that car making a u-turn, so it will detect and react sooner. It's crazy how it not only sees everyone, but also predicts their behavior.
I don’t agree with the commentator stating it needs to take better action at speed and not pause for surroundings. That’s the point of FSD. Take the human emotion out of it. Nice work Tesla!
Hi love your videos ❤. Could you have FSD visualization on the large screen rather than the map navigation, watching FSD visuals would be more interesting on the larger screen. Regards Tony
Nope, nothing on the visualisation about the parked van. What looks to have happened was it didn't want to enter the intersection if it couldn't clear it. It held back because the car in front braked in the intersection and then once the lead car continued it had enough confidence it wouldn't be blocking the intersection. The gap created from that delay was then just a nice coincidence to let the car on the right in.
Why is it that you don’t ever have to touch the steering wheel to show you are still paying attention? Do you have a different setting or something for that?
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You know FSD is improving when we've gone from running stop signs, driving in bus lanes and hard braking for no reason, to now only critiquing the safety judgements of the FSD "driver".
It is still running a stop sign, breaking for no reason, trying to hit curbs, and more up here in WA. If anything, v12 has been regression, aside from the steering being smoother. But I’m glad it’s improving in CA at least.
12.3.6 still flubs leaving the parking lot and roundabouts here in Dallas TX.
Getting these frequent updates is nice, but be aware, that we will most likely be around version 16-18 by the time it will reach a fully releasable 1.0 level commercial product.
So we wil still need 12.3.7, 12.3.8, 12.3.9, then 12.4, 12.4.2, 12.4.3 ... then 12.5, 12.5.2, 12.5.3 ... then 12.6 all the way to version 13, THEN we will need 13.1.2, 13.1.3. ...then 13.2, 13.2.2, 13.2.3 .......... all the way to version 14, THEN alll the waaay to version 15, THEN all the waaaay to version 16.
We will then be in 2026-2028, and it will clear up a little bit more if we still need version 17 and version 18 before the commercial release of a 1.0 software.
They could start a robotaxi service next year in some towns with a hundred cars per town like Cruise or Waymo BUT OF COURSE that could only work with teleoperation, so when the cars need intervention every 10-20-30 minutes, then sy would teleoperate it. So this won't move the needle.
What we need is a software that is ready and has level 5 capability.
An average human experiences a fatal chrash per 100 million miles, an accident every 500 thousand miles. Tesla will need to show that they are at least 2 times better than humans, and to do that with 99% confidence level, you just have to multiply those numbers with 10.
So they have to reach a level, where there's no intervention in 5 million miles (you can't request intervention in a level 5 car!), AND there's no fatal crash in a BILLION miles.
They have to improve the software at the very least a HUNDRED THOUSAND times, BUT if you calculate the 5 million miles with an average speed of 40 miles/ hour, then from another point of view they should get to a level, where there is no intervention required for 125000 hours of driving. Nowadays they are at 5-30 minutes between interventions. If you use the generous 30 minute, then still they would need a 250.000 times improvement.
So they still have an ENORMOUS CHALLENGE TO SOLVE!
The news from China and Europe is fine, but that's just the first step in those locations.
The final commercial 1.0 product is still 2-7 years away.
Of course there's absolutely no assurance, that they will get there EVER.
It may very well be the case, that they need to dream up and implement some kind of cognitive modell that sits above this version of the software that just learns from videos.
Nobody knows.
They will need an ungodly amount of luck (and data and compute etc.).
@@mrthegrievous How do you know all of this? It sounds like you either have inside info from the Tesla FSD team or you are just guessing. There isn't enough history to predict how many SW rolls there will be or how fast they will come. The changes from V11 to the latest V12 are way faster than I expected.
@@catbert7I rented a Model Y last weekend to try it out in NC south of Raleigh. It was both impressive and terrifying. It did some things well and was a far cry from human like in other regards. But, it shows promise.
Finally more and more vids with commentary!!! Keep them coming!
Agree, I can't watch those with just music over them. No where near the same quality
I did a test drive of a standard Model S today and it had fsd 12.3.4. I was so impressed with how good it actually drives. You really do have to feel it while you are in the drivers seat. Im 18 and I was driving with my dad and he didn't even know I turned it on until I told him. Also the 0-60 in 3.1 seconds of the standard model s felt actually insane, I cant imagine the plaid.
I would still suggest learn how to drive if FSD drives better than you you can't really supervise it can you
ok
The Roadster acceleration will make you swallow your dentures. Of course, you will have to wait a long time for that car.
@@charlesw1973 Well ofc. I have my license and I was paying attention with fsd just as much as without fsd. But I see your point, people shouldn't rely on it yet, but one day sure.
@@michaelnurse9089 Plaids doing +150mph in the quarter is pretty impressive, going much quicker will be interesting.
I used to be a Tesla disbeliever. This video in addition to 10s of other recent videos I've watched convinced me Tesla might be ahead of the game more than many realize. I had the opportunity to try Mercedes Drive Pilot this weekend and I had to disengage so much. The restrictions for where L3 will actually work was a joke. Basically just say it barely works anywhere.
It’s they not might be ahead of the game. They are. Waaaaaay ahead. I got my 2024 Model 3 last Tuesday and have been using FSD all day everyday. It’s absolutely amazing. Not without some oddities, but those are rare. It does a fantastic job 99% of the time. The 1% has been easy to adjust and really tough for a human.
Do your research, invest in Tesla!
Mercedes “L3” Autopilot is nothing but a marketing hoax to trick people who don’t read the fine print. It’s a worse product than Tesla’s Autopilot, just with more restrictions on where and when it can be used, so that they could get the regulators to approve it as L3.
I like the part about Drive Pilot working on freeways, but not faster than 40mph!
Last Thursday i was in my model X using 12.3.5 and was able to experience the car recognize a pedestrian hand signal to go ahead, and watch the car act accordingly. It was pretty cool.!
People have said this on previous versions and been debunked. It was likely coincidental timing. But, someday…
I’ve had the same experience, in a construction area a worker waved me to go to the other lane and the car on full self driving did! Also, last night as I was driving on a curvy road, FSD slowed down for rabbits crossing the road… AMAZING!
It does not respond to hand signals.
@@Austin_H7it does in some areas but not in all areas
@@Austin_H7 theres definitely clips that its been trained on where humans do that, but theres so few it really never recognize any. Probably only does it like 2% of the time
It is a pleasure to watch the movements of the steering wheel. Very very smooth, as if guided by the hand of a professional chauffeur. It inspires a lot of confidence.
Think about how many lives this will save. Tens of thousands per year in the USA alone. This is a public health juggernaut.
More people alive to pay taxes for the government lol
@@John_Doe_6932and less jobs for everyone too
Mothers Against Drunk Driving may be a thing of the past.
@@John_Doe_6932So what you’re saying is: in order for the government not to receive as much tax, you’d rather see people dying?
@@heythave and then imagine when you dont even have to pay car insurance, or very minimal :)
New Tesla owner here. 2024 Model 3. It’s such an amazing car. Been using FSD since Tuesday.
It’s what this video is a more. It’s absolutely amazing how good it is. The decision making is jaw dropping in 99% of weird events. It’s not PERFECT, but it’s damn close.
What city are you from if you don t mind? It s for data points :P
@@lucadellasciucca967I‘m from Berlin, Germany:) Hope that helps you
@@lucadellasciucca967 SF Bay Area. Mostly South Bay.
@@lucadellasciucca967 admittedly in a location with lots of driving data.
In 50 years ( or less) it will be illegal for a human to drive a car. Super video!
San Francisco looks great!
How about 5?
Just amazing how much information the car can process at once.
Many minds will be blown the next couple of years! 🤯
Computers are like that. A human can hold about 7 pieces on information mentally at once. An Excel spreadsheet can do 7 billion.
Omar, youre always a calming sensible voice. Thanks. Great video.
Thank you so much for the real-time drive with commentary. The real-time makes it feel like we’re riding in the car, and your commentary helps us understand all the implications of what the car is doing.
I pretty much figured this quality level for FSD was a couple of years away. Frankly, I'm stunned!
The twelve series has changed everything!!!
It’s much worse in many other places but nice to see it is at our near Robo-ready in some cities. I hope it can start getting there in other parts of the country. Progress here has been non-existent for years…
Love the commentary videos 👍
It’s really impressive how much better FSD has become, its really going exponential. So great to see.
“Perfect! I couldn’t have done it better myself” 🤩
Thanks for this superb video. 🙏
Buying a few more shares today on the “dip”. 🤞🏼
Thanks for the video! So lucky you guys have it in states.
Incredible and unbelievable.
Great video tutorial as usual while I’m in the queue for this FSD update. Your videos have made me and my wife confident enough to drive the 4000 miles round-trip to the eclipse in Texas. Thanks.
NNU is 1000x faster than the CPU processing human written code.
We could have a +10% today after Beijing approves FSD/Baidu maps move.
Nothing to see here 🤡
Amazing! Congrats
Thanks Omar. Installing 12.3.6 now on our MY in Toronto. Getting the Vision Park Assist with this. Cool 😎
Great Drive / Show - Thanks
mesmerizing to watch. Real nice!
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This gives me hope of a foreseeable future of autonomy for those of us who do not drive.
The boy called wolf many times. So often that people stopped paying attention. Then one day the wolf DID appear. But instead of devouring the unaware, the wolf saved 10s of thousands of lives per year in the village. THE END (of the beginning)
WOW, that was perfect, without any problems and very smooth.
Wow. I thought we were a long way off from this actually working well. I'm pretty impressed by this video
Wow ! Wow ! Wow. The progress is mind blowing !!!!!!!!!!!!
Just my view, it would be nice to switch the map and fsd display, watching a car follow GPS isn’t as impressive as being able to see what FSD sees. We can’t see the display above the steering wheel that well.. great video
San Francisco looks beautiful!
It really is. Don’t listen to the negativity some post about it.
Just a bunch of buildings and concrete.
I love San Francisco. Going in a week. For a week.
wow, very impressive! Way to go!!
Love the commentary
Very impressive. So happy I will never have to drive in San Fran. I get stressed just watching the video!
Your videos are so good it is hard to over praise them - what a service they are to Tesla. Your commentary is always insightful, calm and critical where there is room for improvement... but I have to say that v12.x.x is super impressive and I agree with others here who are saying the public and Wall street needs to see your videos and open their eyes to how good DSD 12 is. Keep up the amazing work 👍
Wow , Fantastic thanks for an awesome video .
Yeah, its getting really really good
Awesome. Greetings from Germany
Nice work bro 💯
Please keep these videos coming. I know it's a lot of work, but it really is showing the raw reality of the incremental improvement of Tesla software and your objective opinion and first hand footage are far superior evidence to that of the mainstream media. You're doing great things here.
That was pretty smooth. Fantastic progress! Loved how it caught the U-turn guy
I had a thought when you said about speeding up to catch that green and people would get a bit annoyed that their ride is taking a a bit longer. I don't think they'd notice in a fully Autonomous Cyber Cab. There'd be no steering wheel/pedals most likely the seats would be facing "in" so you'd be chatting to each other. If you were alone you'd likely be on your phone or tablet, especially if there's free wi-fi in the vehicle.
Then that thought led onto another, would you even need windows in a Cyber Cab?
Hopefully we'll have FSD in the UK by the time I'm ready for a Model 3!
I cannot wait to get in in the CT. The *ONLY* thing I miss about driving my 3 or Y is the lack of FSD in the truck right now.
For every two updates you get, I get one. I've had 12.3.4 since April 13.
Perfect 👍 drive 🎉
FSD will change my life
The line is now starting to blur between FSD and a person driving. Just a few more iterations and it’ll start to surpass us at an accelerated rate. Very impressive indeed👍
First. I find all of this very interesting. Thanks for constantly uploading!
Almost ready for that cross country summon!
I certainly feel more confident with my FSD than a new passenger who’s never experienced it. FSD has come a very long way since my first Tesla ordered in 2012. Looking forward to get an update from my 12.3.4.
I can’t wait for 12.4 and 12.5.
I love the commentary as well as the videos with House Music in them. I don't like the silent videos at all.
Stopping at the yellow light at 9:22 ,,I would likely have done the same since the light was yellow 2.5 sec .This is better than as you point out slamming on the brakes at any yellow light like the older FSD versions
Thank you.
Big help thanks.....
Very interesting. Your X is a vision only model X (Hw4)? I'm in Fremont and tenpted to test it out (during the free trial period everyone just got), but the streets on this side of the bay are not marked as well as in the city.
14:07 I might not have seen that. FSD is safer than me.
Definitely with the A pillar blocking views in that situation Supervised FSD is ahead
Me too
I start to belive Elon that FSD is already safer than human.
Yeah that was a really good reaction.
Don't know about everyone else but I appreciate your commentary so much. Excellent job. I'm almost brokenhearted when you post the videos with just a music track and your explanation of what you are seeing with the car's behavior is missing!
The FSD v.12.3.6 drive quality looks superb. But there were no real limits tests here that demonstrated some phenomenal improvement or positive new behavior. Out here in the rural wilds of northern New England, I'm seeing FSD make remarkable improvements. At the same time, on a 500 mile rt to central Maine this weekend FSD (12.3.4) required two critical interventions: one of which for a one-lane road construction scenario that it handled well in the past; the second for bad parking lot exit planning, then an attempted U-turn in a 4 lane intersection but not planning the turn radius well enough, set to impact sidewalks and light pole. Neither took place at high speed, reasonably clear anticipation of the FSD intervention about to become necessary.
Thanks for uploading the new version video so quickly.
I may disagree with being impatient when the car is driving on its own. I can understand the frustration when you are fully engaged in supervised mode, but not when it eventually reaches the unsupervised end goal for FSD. I used to travel on business frequently and had to deal with all types of cab and limo drivers (some were so bad that they had no business driving at all). I’m willing to take a few minutes longer by an autonomous car if I can feel comfortable enough to ignore its actions and spend my time working in the back seat and not be concerned about what is going on around the car. Thanks for your great videos!!! 😊😊😊
Dang, the number of 12.3 point update releases are crazy!! Can’t wait to see where we are even in a month or two
Thanks for the vid. One question: how are you able to operate FSD without touching the steering wheel? In my car I’m required to apply slight pressure or I’ll be locked out.
Super Kool ....
_NO INTERVENTION DRIVE_
Feels like we're getting close!
It would be interesting to see the reaction of a qualified driving examiner and get him/her to 'test’ the car
In our industry there is a triangle which says Safety, Journey, Speed which also is applicable to FSD, you can’t speed up without reducing journey experience, as well as for Safety you need to be slower which also will may be not the best journey experience, so bottom line it is a balancing act on the above three elements which we should accept as FSD.
For is old guys this is amazing.
Thanks, Omar! Could you provide some quantifiable rating system to these updates (even if subjective)? Thx again!
Thanks for the post. I'm curious why you never have to touch the steering wheel. We have the latest FSD software, but ours requires you to touch the steering wheel often.
I was wondering the same, but I assume he is touching the steering wheel with his knee.
@@rjdverbeek He has a loop-hole (I believe he has it on 'Elon mode', which doesn't give the nag).
Great video! FSD 12.3.6 looks amazing! This is the first time I've seen your channel, and I just subscribed to your channel and liked this video. One question... FSD stops at least one complete car length before the stopped car in front of it. This is not normal, at least on the East Coast. Please comment on this point. Thank you!
Incredible
Thanks for the video. I have a question. What if you had 10 Tesla cars with FSD with the same navigation target... Would they all drive in the exact same way or can it "think different" in each car?
I noticed at round the 8:30 mark of the video, the car was driving at 30mph whilst it had just gone past a max speed 25 sign (and had that depicted in the dash, so knew about it). Is that a setting you can make in FSD that allows it to go slightly above the limit and could you therefore not allow the car to do so? What would trigger the car to do so there rather than anywhere else, where it tended to stay under?
Amazing!
Awesome !! I think I'll come to America with my Tesla 3 Long Range just to try out the FSD. Unfortunately still blocked in Switzerland 😓😓
Looks great. Do you not have to touch the steering wheel once in a while? I didn't see it bug you to do it. I have problems with school zones, left turns, and construction. Please show us more of the problem areas. School zones with children present is a big problem in my 12.3.4. I hope they fix it. Thanks.
FSD is very polite, letting other cars in.
Amazing! Very safe and smooth. I cannot wait for it to be legal in Europe, but at the current prices, I will pass. It is not a private chauffeur or robotaxi that will get you home from a party when you have had one too many. You have to be alert to not get killed. Unless the prices come down, I will spend my money on a top-of-the-line professional camera that I for years have considered too expensive, which is still way cheaper than FSD. Billionaires don’t seem to grasp what ordinary people can afford. At least in the US, the prices have come down, which is a good thing. I look forward to seeing the future here in Europe too (I don't understand why it is illegal as the driver is still the fallback).
For the robotaxi, I wonder if it is able to recognize a low battery and then drive itself to the nearest supercharger while sending a message to the owner. It should have the ability to determine if the battery level is not enough for the next trip, it would drop itself from ride availability. Later, the car would be able to charge itself without having a person to physically plug in the charging handle.
It would be good if you also mention at the beginning of your drive what mode you have selected (incl acceleration and minimal lane changes). This will be helpful for new users watching.Thx!
Do you notice hard braking when the light turns yellow and it's somewhat close to the line? Humans would just continue and even v11 did that but V12 slams on the brakes for me. Sometimes it does coast through but it very quickly taps in the brakes then goes. So I'm curious
14:07 this is the reason why V12 has been declared to be capable of driving in Europe too. Good reflexes and response time by the cpu and gpu are what is needed in Countries like Italy that have narrow streets and very unexpected behaviors from the other drivers. Bravo to the Tesla AI team, hope to see this software running in UE soon, as we heard from the latest news.
Does FSD have a pre-training step where it simply predicts the next video frame? So they could do massive unsupervised training similar to how LLMs so it. Then a post/training alignment step to make it learn the desired driving style?
I have never heard anyone describing how Tesla AI works exactly. I have only seen its “dreams” - in the form of video frames predicting the future. But I recall a Tesla employee describing the goal of user experience in the future. You would suppose to be able to enter some kind of learning mode. Then you drive manually for some time. And AI learns your habits. Then, when FSD is turned on, it will use this data to better match your expectations and your driving style.
Every Tesla has TWO copies of the FSD HARDWARE computer (cpu, memory, double inputs…) It does this for more reliable FSD output. However: Often it will make use of this when the driver is NOT using FSD….. the car will use the SECOND (unused) system in SHADOW mode to make predictive decisions and then COMPARE them to what the HUMAN driver is actually doing…. The car can then upload this data if FSD notices discrepancies, along with compressed video data…. Somehow DOJO uses this to train on.
I think FSD waiting for the guy who wasn't on his bike is a weird one. The guy could have walked the bike so in an extreme case, FSD was right to wait.
Or he could have decided to just walk in front of the car
I wonder if it learned something from that car making a u-turn, so it will detect and react sooner. It's crazy how it not only sees everyone, but also predicts their behavior.
There is no learning at the car level, if that s what you re wondering.
@@lucadellasciucca967actually they are using video training now that will teach the car how to recognize everything
Let's GO !!!
I don’t agree with the commentator stating it needs to take better action at speed and not pause for surroundings. That’s the point of FSD. Take the human emotion out of it. Nice work Tesla!
This was a great video. Thanks. Could you do more routes that include Bus Only lanes?
What mount is that your using? I know there will never be an answer but worth a shot!
Hi love your videos ❤. Could you have FSD visualization on the large screen rather than the map navigation, watching FSD visuals would be more interesting on the larger screen. Regards Tony
You can’t change that on the model s/x. It only displays visualizations on the driver screen
@@ianmilham7397 thanks for clarifying
8:05 did it slow down to let the car on the right have space to get in, seeing there was a van stopped ahead of it down the road?
Nope, nothing on the visualisation about the parked van. What looks to have happened was it didn't want to enter the intersection if it couldn't clear it. It held back because the car in front braked in the intersection and then once the lead car continued it had enough confidence it wouldn't be blocking the intersection. The gap created from that delay was then just a nice coincidence to let the car on the right in.
Yes makes sense
Interesting near the 12:00 mark that it went straight through a couple right turn only lanes. Or did I see/interpret that wrong?
If the development of the FSD goes like this, I can send you shopping soon
Thank you for the video. I wish you a nice day...
I wonder if you're running emulation on HW4. If so it could improve further with native software! I'm very excited to get 3.6
ok, running that yellow light was awesome...i know that the previous version would've stopped.
How do you remove hand-holds on the steering to prevent the nags?
What happens when it’s raining heavily and the auto wipers don’t wipe and clear the camera vision? This happens to me in the UK constantly.
Could you test in construction zones, traffic circles, parking lots and automatic gates? These are the areas that I have had to intervene.
upvoted!!!!!
Thanks for the nicely done video. I would rather see the car path view on the left rather than the turn by turn directions. Thanks.
Why is it that you don’t ever have to touch the steering wheel to show you are still paying attention? Do you have a different setting or something for that?
I love it also.