I still believe that WINNER's style is from TAEYANG and iKON's style is from GD, and YG just produced 2 amazing boy group that will SLAY the KPOP world.
+Just Being HONEST And winner treats Taeyang like their Dad and iKon worships GD. I think their stage presence and attitude towards performance is influenced by the advises they got from GD and YB too which they took to heart tbh.Winner is so smooth and sauve af and iKon is like crazy af energy and attitude in your face. And even GDYB have a softer spot for the teams they mentored even though obviously the adore all their juniors.
지디랑 태양이랑 다른 느낌으로 멋있는 것처럼 a랑 b도 다른 느낌ㅋㅋ 와중에 지디는 뱅 리더에 자기가 프로듀싱하던 짬바가 있어서 짚어서 뭘 얘기해줘야 할지 완전 제대로 하는 느낌. 와 근데 심사평에서 꽂힌 부분들 다 지디가 짚어서 고쳐준 동선이고 메이킹이었네. 아이컨택에 준회 시작 파트, 동혁이 누워서 끼부린 부분 뭐 하나 빠질 거 없이 지디 손 거친 부분.. 10년 탑 가수는 이유가 잇구만
yeah like they said i liked that he was like "ah yes this move " and he did it and sweated with them he was cool because he is really a cool guy not because he is the "celebrity "
When BigBang and 2NE1 were sitting together along with YG, it made me think that once upon a time those two groups were like team A and team B. Very nervous and reserved and weren't able to express themselves fully. Now they are sitting like they own the place (good thing). Like they are professionals and it's amazing how much they've grown
joseph vincent but you can't look at it in this perspective, both had different teams so different advices and things to do. For example Tae had to cheer them more for their situation... GD had it easier since team B's confidence, vibe and energy were their strong points
***** the best in which way? lol. Only in skills cuz team B was at least real. Also do you expect them to not point out their faults and let them do wrong? this is wrong, and this is life you gotta learn how to stand up. Sorry if I crush your ilusions but this show was made with the only objective to debut winner as team A and to promote team B. Do you really think they would let team B who wasn't prepared AT ALL to debut back then? Ofc not, only team A was prepared (skills wise). And look at them now, they are supposedly still lacking the 2%
***** I know how the show works and I even participated in the votings. But tell me for real if you really think that team B could have debuted back then... what would they have done with team A? keep some members? keep them all? but for what reason? to debut them after someone younger? well this makes no sense, they'd be too old. And training them would have been a loss of money. This is all business at the end. They couldn't let this happen and even when I voted for them I was hurt cuz I knew what the results surely would be like. But the real reason they do these kind of shows is 1. the competition makes them feel more pressure, so they improve faster 2. to introduce them to the public Btw it seems like you don't know how do all these kind of shows work. They are always kind of rigged. It maybe will surprise you but like this, smtm is too to some extend. And I suppose UR and M&M were too.
I love how PAPA YG pointed out how poor both BIGBANG and 2NE1's practice conditions were. They had to improve by themselves. Respect for those two legendary groups, it's because of them that YG is now such a big agency.
Taeyang is truely a great mentor. He is teaching with his heart. He really felt in love with Team A, treating them like his own children. It's amazingly beatiful to watch.
솔직히 B팀은 진짜 잘한다;; 확실히 어린애들이라 노래할 때나 춤출 때 힘도 있는 것 같고, 정말 아무 생각없이 보게되는 듯. 심사위원들이 B팀은 A팀보다 각자가 안보인다고 했는데, 아무래도 다른 방송을 통해 눈에 익은 얼굴들이 A팀에 많기 때문이기도 한 것 같다. 내가 쇼미더머니에 출현했던 바비랑 비아이를 알고 봐서 그런지 몰라도 바비랑 비아이 그리고 구준회 만큼은 눈에 확실히 들어오는듯.
When Bom said she wants to see more dancing with Team B then TOP suddenly gets up and dance AHHH they are so cute i don,t want to ship them but let's say its a friendly ship HAHAHAHAHA....BTW watching this in 2020 hoping this era in kpop will be back like when idols can interact with each other without getting issues and etc.
After seeing WINNER debut, I finally understand why they've had a hard time during WIN. That's because hip hop isn't really their forte. They're really more suited in doing ballad and emotional songs like empty and color ring. That's their OWN COLOR! But I'm just so happy to find out that these boys are really talented and versatile! WINNER Fighting!
Lyching Ly LOL!!! Didn't you know that MINO ALSO composed it? LOL im laughing at your bias and ignorance. We are fully aware of team A's color since they freaking composed and produced the majority of their album as rookies and were still able to incorporate A WIDDDEEE variety of genres...from reggae to ballad to pop to hiphop they did it all.
xxVIPIKACHUxx i think Lyching Ly just want to point out that B.I. knows Winner's music color..and fyi guys the songs was B.I. gift to Winner…so no issue about it..the song was made exactly for them...
wyen loysa i get that it was a gift but like bi doesnt get the credit for hte song, its not his song it was a group effort so it makes no sense to insult winner when the song was partially written by them too and also...a producer at yg said the song wouldnt have sounded to good if it was done by anyone else but winner so obvious its their color and i just hate when stupid fans are rude about winner just because they like BI or whatever more its rude and mean
when i watched this episode, i realized park bom point out nam taehyun and koo junhoe voice and said they are really good.. i didn't realized it then, but after both team debur, what she said is really true, both voice is really outstanding..
Seeing this ep makes me sooo proud of iKON. What they have gone through to debut was sooo tough and heart breaking. Though they did not took the title winner, i believe they are really cut out to be an ICON "iKON" :)
I've been sitting here for roughly 15 minutes staring at my screen like yooo something is not right here.....it took me 15 minutes to realize I didn't turn the subs on FML
I was just telling my husband it reminds me of the sorority days. We had a brother fraternity and the friendship we had truly felt like having siblings that got along. It was also us only and no one else could really penetrate the circle.
all of them I don't really know because he just said "I sometimes drink beer with WINNER friends and I've been doing that since a year ago (2013). when I drink with them, I tell them that I want to be their fans and their partner".
When Top. Mentioned they are looking for a group that will be with them - feels so sad cause half of them are Gone. Watching this again cause I miss the old YG Fam. Sigh. I hope YG Can get back up again just like what they did before back in the early 2000s when they were bankcrupt.
okay so here's what i think. months have passed, WINNER finally debuted and team b which is iKON right now is going to debut by early next year. i've always liked team a. i never really paid any attention to team b. i fell in love with winner right from the start they debuted. i didnt think that they were lacking anything because imo they showed their true colors to the fans and came up with songs that can move people. afterwards i watched mix & match before watching WIN and i realized that team b are the full package. personally winner and ikon are two COMPLETELY different groups and should not be compared with each other. as for dancing skills, clearly ikon wins and for vocal skills, goes to winner. i still dont get why people still argue about how winner didnt deserve to win and that ikon shouldve debuted instead. i've grown to like both distinctly talented groups. and i dont get the huge fuss about who is more talented than who. BOTH are. its just that BOTH groups just have different styles.
I get you... Although I am Team B biased (I knew them as iKON and came to see this afterwards), I am happy that Team A won cause it ended the best way possible: Both teams debuted and I am so happy for them. I am not really a WINNER fan, but I do empathize with them... It have been hard for them... And so for iKON too... I just want to cheer for them both!!! By the way, what´s WINNER fandom name?
After watching this, I want Seungri, 2ne1, BI and all who left to became YG family again together with BP, Ikon and winner. Please bring back the YGfam. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭😭😭
I agree with what GD said to Minho at the end and this is the reason why Team B are able to be more relaxed in a way. It's not because they're young and all that bullshit, it's simply because B.I has great leadership qualities. He knows at times when he needs to push the others to do better, because he knows they can do it. He has trust in not just his own abilities on what would work best but also in everyone else being able to pull it off. People use to call him harsh during MIx n Match phase and a bully but they're so wrong. He steps up to the game, end of story and this is why I believe he's one of the best leaders in kpop
In MINO's defense, he was just new to YG and trained the shortest with them. Team A was created rashly then they decided to put mino as leader because of whatv reason when he really isn't leader material. Even Zico was surprised that he was the leader haha and gave all the tips he could to help mino. All his music life is based on hiphop too which is not Team A color. I do admire BI leader skills, producing skills, and personality that sometimes I imagine what if he is in Team A, that's why I was also sad when he left. I was rooting for BIxMINO collab :(
Rewatching this now. I didn't know Minho is the leader of Winner. For some reason when I look at Winner (the debuted one) Seung yoon give me the leader vibe.
지금 활동하는 위너만 보고 얘네는 첨부터 엄청 잘했고 막연히 WIN에서도 B팀보다 잘했을 줄 알았는데 이렇게 맨날 지기만 했을 줄이야.. 근데 그래서 지금까지 스스로도 이해가 안됐던, 내가 왜 정말 진짜 취향에 전혀 안맞는 YG의 소속가수를 좋아하게 됐는지 알 것 같다.. 그냥 위너는 YG의 전통적인 스타일이 안맞는 애들이다.. 그걸 억지로 시켜놓고 원래 그 스타일이 잘맞는 아이콘이랑 붙여놓으니깐 당연히 다 지지. 지금처럼 위너가 하고 싶고 잘하는 걸 하니깐 자연스럽기만 하고 세련됐고 얼마나 잘하냐.. 양현석씨 말대로 A팀이 절대로 못하는 게 아니다. 근데 그 이유가 B팀이 두려워서가 아니라 자기들한테 안맞는 걸 하고 있어서 상대적으로 못해보이는 거다..
Started watching WIN because of iKon but I find myself rooting for Team A in this series. Suddenly felt like crying watching Team A's performance because of how much they have SERIOUSLY improved since the beginning especially Jinwoo! They seemed more relaxed than before. Like, you can feel their stage presence more. Loved Team B's performance too omg Bobby reminded me how he became my bias in iKon again hahaha that rap though. Bt gotta agree with TOP, there's too much going on for their dance so I dont know where to look.
Sera C, we're the same... I started watching WIN because of Climax,but when I watched the whole episode,I started to love winner... even I repeat to watch it again.. I just feel the same... team A performs have a big influence for me...
Why do people say Winner shines in ballads?? They suit a wide variety of genres so it's kind of frustrating to see people try to put them in this small box... I mean listen to 2014 S/S each song is a different color but they all suit Winner
+Jas A That's because they do not know anything about Winner nor care to give them a shot. It is their prejudices that prevents them from opening their heart to a group like Winner. So typecasting them as ballad is an excuse for them to not look any further. We Winner fans know they are not ballad and they can do it all. If anything they have so much more potential than even Ikon, who even YG says is strictly hip hop.
+Jas A bcoz their title track is kinda slow and chill.. you know a lot of ignorant people always generalized slow tempo = ballad= boring. it's annoying
Is no one gonna talk about how caring TOP is? Like its so sweet to see him try to make things less awkward for WINNER and prevent them from getting too badly hurt 😭
Here (23:24 - 23:47) I've been always searching some GD's or YB's raw reaction to some Idol's because it's rare... but who know's that there's a person who can Wowed Taeyang and put a cracked of smile on the lips of the King GD 👑 because of amusement... It's such a big compliment for Bobby.. but overall both teams are amazing 😱..
:( the whole time I'm watching this im so frustrated because team A is trying to fit an image that's not theirs, they do so well in their post-debut image, the sort of chic/model/visual image works really well for them, it's a cool and chill vibe. The reason team B did so well was because they totally fit the paradigm for the young, fresh, hip hop group that YG would be known for. I'm glad both teams got to debut.
+rubiki an I like TOP judgement since he was unbiased here (not because he chose team A at the end) I just like the way he gave a critique and point out the lack Team B and Team A had
Lmao pity why? They werent going to die. They obviously have empathy and know how to jugde based on the potential not in the flashy dance steps that have nothing to do with singing. Because they are singers... they need to sing not dance soncronized also theyre artists and if any of them are in the artsy side is winner.
Its so weird seeing seughoon here after watching kpop star he's improved so much that it really shocked me, I honestly think he has the most potential from winner from seeing him improve from kpop star till now
When I see this I think Team A struggles were more because they weren't sure what are they're strenghts, while Team B is confident about theirs. You can see how Team A tried so hard to bring something different each time, and sometimes that didn't worked well on their favour because while they were experimenting with styles, Team B already knew what they were all about and focused on that, so they stood out. Tho I'm glad to know that Team A eventually grew to the point were no matter what they try, they'll be good at it. Makes you feel proud when you watch this again haha :')
It's sweet how Seungri always rooted for team A, he always encourages them at the right moment, Seungri must have really known and can relate to them, he's the funniest now but no doubt, struggled the most during the documentary for Big Bang. YGFAM all the way
it's not empathy more people tend to like team A because they're simply unique and different from each other and they have flaws and not too perfect meanwhile for Team B their only problem is being too perfect. They're so well prepared. In the end it doesn't matter anymore the both team debuted :)
@@MrRdlv I know you are winner stan that's why you said that. If you really know ikon you wouldn't said such a thing. They are perfect because they practice hard and you should respect that. Your comment is offensive to sm stans and ikon stans.
@1_ ADELLIA NAURA IZZATI agreed. Team B needed polishing and their vocals weren't up to mark. They were younger and less experienced (though the rap line rocked) They were too dependent on BI and Bobby here. But on Mix and Match they improved so much and each person finally stood out alone themselves. Their vocals were great and they brought out the uniqueness in themselves. And now iKON has one of the best stage presence in 3rd gen! YG artists fighting!!
@@MrRdlv manufactured? No, it's because they have a solid teamwork compared to Team A which is why they seem more perfect. Team B's members are individually very different from each other but had a strong leader who held them together while team A didn't, which was why team A struggled so much in the beginning.
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I still believe that WINNER's style is from TAEYANG and iKON's style is from GD, and YG just produced 2 amazing boy group that will SLAY the KPOP world.
same tbvh
+Just Being HONEST And winner treats Taeyang like their Dad and iKon worships GD. I think their stage presence and attitude towards performance is influenced by the advises they got from GD and YB too which they took to heart tbh.Winner is so smooth and sauve af and iKon is like crazy af energy and attitude in your face.
And even GDYB have a softer spot for the teams they mentored even though obviously the adore all their juniors.
how about Top, my bias? hahaha
It’s 2018 and nobody notice the cute BOMTOP moment??
Anthony Rebenito you predicted right
Okay but hate all you want, we've got to admit Bobby absolutely killed his verses even GD was smiling.
And then after they kicked the suitcase (aka his Holiness GD) he smiled like a kid and I died.
지디랑 태양이랑 다른 느낌으로 멋있는 것처럼 a랑 b도 다른 느낌ㅋㅋ 와중에 지디는 뱅 리더에 자기가 프로듀싱하던 짬바가 있어서 짚어서 뭘 얘기해줘야 할지 완전 제대로 하는 느낌.
와 근데 심사평에서 꽂힌 부분들 다 지디가 짚어서 고쳐준 동선이고 메이킹이었네. 아이컨택에 준회 시작 파트, 동혁이 누워서 끼부린 부분 뭐 하나 빠질 거 없이 지디 손 거친 부분.. 10년 탑 가수는 이유가 잇구만
Daesung: they (ikon) will have a lot of teen fans.
Little did he know that elementary kids are also falling for ikon (love scenario). Haha
Yongbok's Freckles i still laugh over how the kids followed hanbin and jinhwan when they were walking the dogs.
@@lily-jg4ys And the kids who are peeling in the window during iKON TV that they ask bi if he is Kang Daniel 😂😔
and also eldersass 🤣
basically the whole country loved that song haha.
I'm 12 years old lol
I'm not even a YG fan but I gotta say Taeyang is such a great mentor, he's so passionate about what he's doing.. it's just.. wow
yeah like they said i liked that he was like "ah yes this move " and he did it and sweated with them he was cool because he is really a cool guy not because he is the "celebrity "
You JUST BIEBER SABRINADAVISLOVE YOU💗💗
Alex97s i agree👍
yeah he had great words of wisdom as well. it really helped team A mentally
True tho!!!
오랜만에 다시 보니까 9:50 이게 win 프로그램 전체를 관통하는 말 같음. A팀이 이긴 이유이기도 하고. 실력도 중요하지만 결국은 사람의 마음을 끄는 매력이 진짜 중요한거 같음
이게맞는덧같다 ㄹㅇ
진짜 지디는 무대에서 멋짐이나 보는관객을 홀리는방법이나 관객에서 전달하는그런걸 알려쥬고 태양은진짜 춤 노래 실력적으로 알려주는거같다 딱봐도그래..
생각해보면 양현석이 프로듀싱할 팀을 잘 정해준거같음. 만약 A팀이 지디노래 했으면 안어울렸을거같고, B팀이 태양 노래했으면 그것도 별로였을거같음
T.O.P to Bobby: “your rap is so good, i almost went crazy”
👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
still getting crazy of Bobby's rap
Bobby a few ep before, I want to be like TOP
When BigBang and 2NE1 were sitting together along with YG, it made me think that once upon a time those two groups were like team A and team B. Very nervous and reserved and weren't able to express themselves fully. Now they are sitting like they own the place (good thing). Like they are professionals and it's amazing how much they've grown
it' s like a meeting about their transaction in other mafia group hahaha
10:22 "Big Bang's dancing is so uncoordinated on stage, especially TOP" I died with this comment
+Yeni Isabelle Top and his granpa spirit dance always crack me up
Hahahaha XD
HAHAHA "who cares if they're famous they *suck* "
Jojo Moyes you’re more than SUCK!
@@zorodoriyaki2979 Hey don't stoop in his level.
지드래곤 진짜 말이쁘게 잘하네 사람 기분 좋게 들리는 화법으로 애들 가르쳐 주는 보습 보기 좋네
A팀도 잘하지만 B팀이 무대를 하면서 여유가 보임.. 어린데도 넘 잘해
Fan of GD. But I've gotta admit that I have so much respect for teayang and his showmanship.
***** what can he do when this is the truth though? do you prefer him to lie?
joseph vincent but you can't look at it in this perspective, both had different teams so different advices and things to do. For example Tae had to cheer them more for their situation... GD had it easier since team B's confidence, vibe and energy were their strong points
***** the best in which way? lol. Only in skills cuz team B was at least real.
Also do you expect them to not point out their faults and let them do wrong? this is wrong, and this is life you gotta learn how to stand up.
Sorry if I crush your ilusions but this show was made with the only objective to debut winner as team A and to promote team B. Do you really think they would let team B who wasn't prepared AT ALL to debut back then? Ofc not, only team A was prepared (skills wise). And look at them now, they are supposedly still lacking the 2%
*****
I know how the show works and I even participated in the votings. But tell me for real if you really think that team B could have debuted back then... what would they have done with team A? keep some members? keep them all? but for what reason? to debut them after someone younger? well this makes no sense, they'd be too old. And training them would have been a loss of money. This is all business at the end.
They couldn't let this happen and even when I voted for them I was hurt cuz I knew what the results surely would be like.
But the real reason they do these kind of shows is 1. the competition makes them feel more pressure, so they improve faster 2. to introduce them to the public
Btw it seems like you don't know how do all these kind of shows work. They are always kind of rigged. It maybe will surprise you but like this, smtm is too to some extend. And I suppose UR and M&M were too.
u gays...see what happent right now...😂😂
seeing how proud GD is for team B, he can't stop smiling during team B's performance. How much more today💓
태양 진짜 말투가 정직.. 말투가 진짜 착하다..
I love how PAPA YG pointed out how poor both BIGBANG and 2NE1's practice conditions were. They had to improve by themselves. Respect for those two legendary groups, it's because of them that YG is now such a big agency.
Yes I agree and hope that Yg didn’t disband 2ne1🥺
@@emersynflores7661 2ne1 already disband in 2016 if I'm not mistaken 🤧
@@Zuzu99531 yeah yg was cruel to them
@@ukilabhutia861 it is shareholders' voting decision
Louder!
Taeyang is truely a great mentor. He is teaching with his heart. He really felt in love with Team A, treating them like his own children. It's amazingly beatiful to watch.
+AylinLove92 Yeah, it's like they're his own children... Awww Papa Taeyang
B팀이 ㅈㄴ 잘하긴 하네 랩퍼 2명도 잘하고 구준회 보컬도 미쳤고
Before: I’m here because of Team A and Team B. WinKON heart
Same 😔✊
Me too girl. Life has changed.
개임적 생각이지만 비팀이 계속 이겨오다보니 자신감이 차있는 것도 있는데 추가로 끊임없이 노력하니까 진짜 멋진 무대를 만든 것 같다. 에이팀은 계속해서 늘어가는게 보이고
지디 바쁘고 귀찮을 수도 있는데 저렇게 꼼꼼히 디렉팅해주냐 진짜 너무 괜찮은 사람이다
태양한테 항상 졌으니까 자기가 제자로 둔 애들이라도 태양이 스승인 팀한테서 이기게 하고 싶은 느낌임 지디가 항상 모든 프로그램에서 열심히 하기도 하고ㅇㅇ 그냥 애가 자기 일 사랑하는게 눈에 보여서 좋음
@@alexdj448 지디가 태양한테 항상 졌어요?
@@wherever__0529 애프소드5에 초반 3분쯤부터 보시면 지디가 말하는거 나와요
@@wherever__0529 연습생 시절엔 항상 졌다고 프로그램에서 나왔잖아여........
Daesung's just hungry.
Hahahaha😂
I think so .. 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
솔직히 B팀은 진짜 잘한다;; 확실히 어린애들이라 노래할 때나 춤출 때 힘도 있는 것 같고, 정말 아무 생각없이 보게되는 듯. 심사위원들이 B팀은 A팀보다 각자가 안보인다고 했는데, 아무래도 다른 방송을 통해 눈에 익은 얼굴들이 A팀에 많기 때문이기도 한 것 같다. 내가 쇼미더머니에 출현했던 바비랑 비아이를 알고 봐서 그런지 몰라도 바비랑 비아이 그리고 구준회 만큼은 눈에 확실히 들어오는듯.
몇번째 다시봐도 B팀 무대 소름돋네,,,,
I enjoy how Daesung compares YG's trainees to food.
((*is reminded of Family Outing days with Dumb and Dumber XD*))
Hehe I agree, plus, perhaps he was really hungry too lol
I think he got it from YG in Kpop Star
He is always bringing up food analogies on the show
Aslo it could be because he was hungry as well
When Bom said she wants to see more dancing with Team B then TOP suddenly gets up and dance AHHH they are so cute i don,t want to ship them but let's say its a friendly ship HAHAHAHAHA....BTW watching this in 2020 hoping this era in kpop will be back like when idols can interact with each other without getting issues and etc.
You are probably watching this in Quarantine 🤣👍 me too! I love 2ne1 and BB. I wish I could turn back the time 💔😭
only YG yes im waiting this to happen again.
@@neyafe4540 this reminds me of wayV song.. stop rewind turn back time😐
Time stamp pls
@@Samantha-qh8hq 37:36
After seeing WINNER debut, I finally understand why they've had a hard time during WIN. That's because hip hop isn't really their forte. They're really more suited in doing ballad and emotional songs like empty and color ring. That's their OWN COLOR! But I'm just so happy to find out that these boys are really talented and versatile! WINNER Fighting!
***** well, i do agree with you too
And their hit-song was compose by B.I , who knows team A's color :)
Lyching Ly LOL!!! Didn't you know that MINO ALSO composed it? LOL im laughing at your bias and ignorance. We are fully aware of team A's color since they freaking composed and produced the majority of their album as rookies and were still able to incorporate A WIDDDEEE variety of genres...from reggae to ballad to pop to hiphop they did it all.
xxVIPIKACHUxx i think Lyching Ly just want to point out that B.I. knows Winner's music color..and fyi guys the songs was B.I. gift to Winner…so no issue about it..the song was made exactly for them...
wyen loysa i get that it was a gift but like bi doesnt get the credit for hte song, its not his song it was a group effort so it makes no sense to insult winner when the song was partially written by them too and also...a producer at yg said the song wouldnt have sounded to good if it was done by anyone else but winner so obvious its their color and i just hate when stupid fans are rude about winner just because they like BI or whatever more its rude and mean
윈 또 정주행한다 위너버전 나만바라봐 취향저격이야.. 강승윤 음색이랑 너무 찰떡인데 유니 얘기는 아무도안해..
아이콘이 너무 잘한다 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 비아이가 진짜 천재는 천재구나....거기다가 멤버 하나하나 실력이 부족한 멤버가 없음 bb 데뷔는 비록 에이팀이 했지만 두 팀다 실력 마음껏 발휘하고 아이돌 할수 있어서 다행이다
This show WIN and mixmatch proved how important the leader of any group is ... lets cheer for B.I..
✊🏻
Seungri's gaze at Jinwoo is made of pure love lol
FATHER'S LOVE!! ❤️❤️🥺
와 태양이 북돋아 주면 진짜 용기 날거 같아 용기 날수 있게 잘 도와준거같음...
프듀X 보다가 넘어옴... 클라스가
GD IS SO CUTE
I AGREE
He is so cool , swag , cute , handsome at the same time
coming back here in 2021 to cry... B.I made his solo debut :" so proud of him
oohh I cry w you, B.I is doing great tho!
비아이 진짜 고생했다.. 나이도 어린데 리더까지 맡아서 하기 쉽지 않았을텐데 정말 고생 많이했어 김한빈
지디+비아이 프로듀싱이되면 저런 무대가 나오는건가 oneofakind 무대 완성도 너무 높아서 도라버리겟음
둘 다 잘하는거 맞고 여기서는 힙합에 B팀이 더 잘 어울리는 것도 맞는데 A팀이 이기려면 자기들한테 맞는 색으로 편곡을 하고 자기 걸로 만들어야지 YG가 힙합 회사? 라고 자기들한테 안맞는 색으로 편곡을 하니까 계속 졌던 것 같다 ,,
so this is when the GET READY? SHOWTIME started as their team introduction...
their also using the same intro sound for WIN and M&M
G-Dragon really knows how bigbang members think... what a leader! 👑🔥
Ofc 💅❤️
The great and genius one !!!!! couldn't agreed anymoreeee
Who's here in 2021 missing the Old Yg Family
Yo.. even 2024😂
비팀 개오져..... 저런 춤 들어간 노래 나오면 좋겠다 두 팀 다 화이팅 위너 아이콘 꽃길만 걷자 ㅠㅠ
when i watched this episode, i realized park bom point out nam taehyun and koo junhoe voice and said they are really good.. i didn't realized it then, but after both team debur, what she said is really true, both voice is really outstanding..
Ofc she's a main vocal herself 😉 she got ears for that 😉❤️
Seeing this ep makes me sooo proud of iKON. What they have gone through to debut was sooo tough and heart breaking. Though they did not took the title winner, i believe they are really cut out to be an ICON "iKON" :)
So they get their " get ready, show Time " from GD.
Yap
but i heard it was donghyuk idea, but until now i still dont know tho😂
I'm thinking the same
I realized only now😂
Can you give me time stamp? Please
I am a simple person. If Park Bom likes B.I., then I also like B.I.
Dara: *talks about eye contact*
I remember when GD said he likes to do that when performing.
지금 다시 봐도 확실히 B팀이 더 신선하고 세련됨 A팀은 조금 촌스럽달까.. 오히려 A팀은 데뷔하고 훨씬 고급스러운 느낌이 입혀져서 좋아진듯
맞음 데뷔하고나서가 더 좋아진듯 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㄹㅇ 데뷔 컨셉 잡은사람 칭찬해줘야댐 ㅋㅋㅋ 신의한수...
I've been sitting here for roughly 15 minutes staring at my screen like yooo something is not right here.....it took me 15 minutes to realize I didn't turn the subs on FML
haghahahahah thats like me HHAAHA XD
Ahahahahaahahahaha omg me too
omg dude i just realized
i just realize after read your comment and it's after i watch 5 episode
i just realized after watching 5 episode. thanks for your comment
who's watching this after everyone debuted ? its my 2nd time watching it !
ME! But it's my first! ^_^
4th i guess... lmao XD
Same
10th i guess, kkk
maleehearts sameeeeeee3 hereeeee .. and everytime watched fall in love again and again. 😂
Team a or Team b? IKon or Winner? Who cares.... In the end we all YG STANS !!
agree with you ^^ yg stanzo 🙆
I'm not a yg stan even but wow I see they're so talented & handsome spesialy Nam Taehyun ❤
+katy m true , but namtae is mine hahahahha just kidding
bobby mine then
+kkaebshit nooooi , he is my fav in ikon TT
The bigbang and 2ne1 friendship is the best. We're lucky 2nd gen kpop fan that we are able to experience this kind of interactions
I was just telling my husband it reminds me of the sorority days. We had a brother fraternity and the friendship we had truly felt like having siblings that got along. It was also us only and no one else could really penetrate the circle.
B팀도 원래잘하긴 하지만 역시 지드래곤의 코칭..👍 다언급됫어 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
나만 바라봐 정말 좋아해서 자주 돌려보는 영상이네요. 1차 투표 B팀 했었는데 제가 이곡 복습하면서 A팀으로 돌아선 거 같네요.. 완전 소중한 곡
근데 진짜 다시봐도 B팀이 잘하기는 오지게 잘했음
지금은 위너가 훨씬 잘함
@@Fuduskxinhuuuㅋㅋ
@@Fuduskxinhuuu뭐래 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 두그룹 모두 실력 늘고 잘하는구먼 날조하자마라 이딴 댓글에 좋아요가 5개나 박혀있노 ㅋㅋ
아이콘은 지금도 잘함
위너가 훨 낫다
Coming back here after Dara's departure from YG. I'll surely miss 2ne1 and Bigbang interactions more than ever!!!! It's very different now.
this makes me miss hanbin and bobby together. their chemistry was like gd and top on stage.
진짜 심사위원 말 공감간다.. 실력은 B인데 정은 A팀한테 감
seungri and t.o.p voted a. i think its sweet.
Yeees, TOP !! 😀😀😀
+Park Soo Yoo and now TOP like to hang out with Winner too
shenas mudjiono Really ? Which member ? :D
all of them I don't really know because he just said "I sometimes drink beer with WINNER friends and I've been doing that since a year ago (2013). when I drink with them, I tell them that I want to be their fans and their partner".
Winner song is out. I'm not OK...
The charisma of TOP is undeniably POWERFUL
and here we have Daesung and his analogies once again
When Top. Mentioned they are looking for a group that will be with them - feels so sad cause half of them are Gone. Watching this again cause I miss the old YG Fam. Sigh. I hope YG Can get back up again just like what they did before back in the early 2000s when they were bankcrupt.
23:24 와 진짜 바비 뭐냐 ,,, 연습생이 였는데 개잘하네
So that's where the "Get Ready, Showtime" came from. Thank you, GD.
B가 월등히 재밌고 진짜 또보고싶게 만드네!!
그리고 일단 B팀 노래가 쩔고 신나고 노래만들어도 쓰러지는데.. 노래부터 먹고들어가니 더 잘하는듯
아ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ이게 뭐라고 팬 눈물나게 하냐ㅋ큐ㅠㅠㅠA팀 쨔응이다 진심ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
긍까요ㅜㅜ 저도 4년전꺼 돌려보는데 대성통곡했어요ㅠㅠ
okay so here's what i think. months have passed, WINNER finally debuted and team b which is iKON right now is going to debut by early next year. i've always liked team a. i never really paid any attention to team b. i fell in love with winner right from the start they debuted. i didnt think that they were lacking anything because imo they showed their true colors to the fans and came up with songs that can move people. afterwards i watched mix & match before watching WIN and i realized that team b are the full package. personally winner and ikon are two COMPLETELY different groups and should not be compared with each other. as for dancing skills, clearly ikon wins and for vocal skills, goes to winner. i still dont get why people still argue about how winner didnt deserve to win and that ikon shouldve debuted instead. i've grown to like both distinctly talented groups. and i dont get the huge fuss about who is more talented than who. BOTH are. its just that BOTH groups just have different styles.
preach.
totally agree only time can tell what music they will bring…and please YG can they just debut IKON…what is the trolls taking them so long...
I get you... Although I am Team B biased (I knew them as iKON and came to see this afterwards), I am happy that Team A won cause it ended the best way possible: Both teams debuted and I am so happy for them. I am not really a WINNER fan, but I do empathize with them... It have been hard for them... And so for iKON too... I just want to cheer for them both!!! By the way, what´s WINNER fandom name?
ChickAnime ICs means inner circle
Totally agree
Even in 2019 team a and team b are still different opposite style. I'm glad they are both different cause I enjoy both teams.
Who here in 2019...
From the fist time I'm fall for hanbin (BI)
I really miss habin bi
I'm here first time in 2020....for B.I (ikon) also bigbang
After watching this, I want Seungri, 2ne1, BI and all who left to became YG family again together with BP, Ikon and winner. Please bring back the YGfam. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭😭😭
fuck seungri
It's Lena stfu
It's Lena F U
@@urlovemyla f u
@@nicolebravo256 y'all can say whatever you want, seungri's place will always be jail.
아 A팀이 위너, B팀이 아이콘이구나..
그냥 yg에서 잘해서 대뷔한줄 알았는데 이런 프로그램이 있었구나 확실히 yg느낌은 아이콘인데 뭔가 위너한테 정이가는게 있는것같다 ㅠㅠㅠ 위너가 못하는게 아니라 yg느낌이랑은 잘 안맞는 새벽같은 느낌이 있다고해야되나..
맞아요.. 위너 뭔가 조금 서정적인 느낌..
근데 생각해보니 위너는 5명으로 시작했는데 4명의 위너는 진짜 신의한수 인거 같아요 트레저가 아쉬운게 멤버가 12명이나 되서 많이 아쉽죠ㅠㅠ
이제 위너는 위너만의 스타일이 딱 구축되서 넘 좋음. 위너팝이 따로 있는것 같은. 4명 위너 강김송이 진짜 너무너무 좋음💙
새벽같은 느낌...진짜 비유 좋아요
지디는 또 혼자 2020이야
이젠 2021ㅎㅎ
2024여기요
Park Bom choosing NamTae and Hanbin.
Fast forward to the future: All of them left.
Missing my old YG family. Missing the good old days.
i liked your comment but actually feel sad to read this, i love all of them esp bommie
huhu
Same, I miss them all so much. None of them are there now except 4 winner because they stayed for their fans
지디는 간지학 교수해도 잘할 듯
2022년에 봐도 2025년에 봐도 2030년 2050년에 봐도 지디는 항상 촌스러움과는 거리가 먼 사람일 듯 사람이 어케 저러냐???
간지학 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ😂
I agree with what GD said to Minho at the end and this is the reason why Team B are able to be more relaxed in a way. It's not because they're young and all that bullshit, it's simply because B.I has great leadership qualities. He knows at times when he needs to push the others to do better, because he knows they can do it. He has trust in not just his own abilities on what would work best but also in everyone else being able to pull it off. People use to call him harsh during MIx n Match phase and a bully but they're so wrong. He steps up to the game, end of story and this is why I believe he's one of the best leaders in kpop
In MINO's defense, he was just new to YG and trained the shortest with them. Team A was created rashly then they decided to put mino as leader because of whatv reason when he really isn't leader material. Even Zico was surprised that he was the leader haha and gave all the tips he could to help mino. All his music life is based on hiphop too which is not Team A color. I do admire BI leader skills, producing skills, and personality that sometimes I imagine what if he is in Team A, that's why I was also sad when he left. I was rooting for BIxMINO collab :(
and i'm watching this again because i miss how b.i leadership . i miss him so much when was on ikon
Rewatching this now. I didn't know Minho is the leader of Winner. For some reason when I look at Winner (the debuted one) Seung yoon give me the leader vibe.
실력 좋지만 안뜬 그룹들이 많은 거 보면 잘 되려면 실력도 실력인데 마음이 끌리는게 좀 큰 거 같다 ㅠㅜ 얼굴도 알려져있으니 대중들 인지도도 높고 ㅇㅇ 저 프로그램 보는 내내 B팀이 잘한다는 걸 알면서도 A팀 응원함 ㄹㅇ
둘다잘했는데 B팀무대를보면 계속 소름돋고 표정이나 리액션이 너무너무좋다💙 위너 아이콘 둘다 짱
지금 활동하는 위너만 보고 얘네는 첨부터 엄청 잘했고 막연히 WIN에서도 B팀보다 잘했을 줄 알았는데 이렇게 맨날 지기만 했을 줄이야.. 근데 그래서 지금까지 스스로도 이해가 안됐던, 내가 왜 정말 진짜 취향에 전혀 안맞는 YG의 소속가수를 좋아하게 됐는지 알 것 같다.. 그냥 위너는 YG의 전통적인 스타일이 안맞는 애들이다.. 그걸 억지로 시켜놓고 원래 그 스타일이 잘맞는 아이콘이랑 붙여놓으니깐 당연히 다 지지. 지금처럼 위너가 하고 싶고 잘하는 걸 하니깐 자연스럽기만 하고 세련됐고 얼마나 잘하냐.. 양현석씨 말대로 A팀이 절대로 못하는 게 아니다. 근데 그 이유가 B팀이 두려워서가 아니라 자기들한테 안맞는 걸 하고 있어서 상대적으로 못해보이는 거다..
이친구 말 잘하노 공감의 따봉 누르고 갑니다~
?????????
ㄹㅇ이다
이거다
인정 위너는 위너만의 색깔이 있는듯 개인적으로 위너 1집이 너무너무 좋았음 위너만의 고급스러움+역시 YG 소리 나오는 랩..
위너는 저때부터 음악이 되게 위너위너 하네ㅎ
The way TOP gave comments as a judge is so amazing.
Started watching WIN because of iKon but I find myself rooting for Team A in this series. Suddenly felt like crying watching Team A's performance because of how much they have SERIOUSLY improved since the beginning especially Jinwoo! They seemed more relaxed than before. Like, you can feel their stage presence more.
Loved Team B's performance too omg Bobby reminded me how he became my bias in iKon again hahaha that rap though. Bt gotta agree with TOP, there's too much going on for their dance so I dont know where to look.
Sera C, we're the same... I started watching WIN because of Climax,but when I watched the whole episode,I started to love winner... even I repeat to watch it again.. I just feel the same... team A performs have a big influence for me...
+Ani Farida and that's make me a truey inner circle :D
2 years late but-
Me too!! I actually watched mix and match first then win. And Idk how i ended up rooting for Team A
I watched becoz of WinKon...and wah....I honestly Genuinly preferred Team A......I LOVE WINNER!!!
@@anifarida1121 omg sameeeee!
bobby was so cute when he was getting compliments and he kept smiling
Why do people say Winner shines in ballads?? They suit a wide variety of genres so it's kind of frustrating to see people try to put them in this small box... I mean listen to 2014 S/S each song is a different color but they all suit Winner
+Jas A That's because they do not know anything about Winner nor care to give them a shot. It is their prejudices that prevents them from opening their heart to a group like Winner. So typecasting them as ballad is an excuse for them to not look any further. We Winner fans know they are not ballad and they can do it all. If anything they have so much more potential than even Ikon, who even YG says is strictly hip hop.
+Yoonbread I agree with every single word you say.
+Jas A bcoz their title track is kinda slow and chill.. you know a lot of ignorant people always generalized slow tempo = ballad= boring. it's annoying
13:30 .. Seungri and GD .. another precious moment right there !!!
NYONGTORRRY HAHAAHHA
@@lian5377 nyongtory
Team B made my jaw drop with their dance
위너 진짜 많이 늘었다ㅜㅜㅜ너무 좋아ㅜㅜ
Is no one gonna talk about how caring TOP is? Like its so sweet to see him try to make things less awkward for WINNER and prevent them from getting too badly hurt 😭
Here (23:24 - 23:47) I've been always searching some GD's or YB's raw reaction to some Idol's because it's rare... but who know's that there's a person who can Wowed Taeyang and put a cracked of smile on the lips of the King GD 👑 because of amusement... It's such a big compliment for Bobby.. but overall both teams are amazing 😱..
:( the whole time I'm watching this im so frustrated because team A is trying to fit an image that's not theirs, they do so well in their post-debut image, the sort of chic/model/visual image works really well for them, it's a cool and chill vibe. The reason team B did so well was because they totally fit the paradigm for the young, fresh, hip hop group that YG would be known for. I'm glad both teams got to debut.
승훈오빠 진짜..♥♥웃는얼굴볼때마다 심쿵♥승훈오빠 좀만 더 웃어줘요ㅠㅜ
in my soul i feel like seungri & top voted for team a because they really saw the talent we see in them. ill forever be grateful.
+rubiki an I like TOP judgement since he was unbiased here (not because he chose team A at the end) I just like the way he gave a critique and point out the lack Team B and Team A had
because they feel pity for them actually!
Lmao pity why? They werent going to die. They obviously have empathy and know how to jugde based on the potential not in the flashy dance steps that have nothing to do with singing. Because they are singers... they need to sing not dance soncronized also theyre artists and if any of them are in the artsy side is winner.
@@esmatm5111 MYGOODNESS poor h the mentality that you've been carrying all this time 🤧😭😂
비아이 도입부 춤 미쳤네
Its so weird seeing seughoon here after watching kpop star he's improved so much that it really shocked me, I honestly think he has the most potential from winner from seeing him improve from kpop star till now
When I see this I think Team A struggles were more because they weren't sure what are they're strenghts, while Team B is confident about theirs. You can see how Team A tried so hard to bring something different each time, and sometimes that didn't worked well on their favour because while they were experimenting with styles, Team B already knew what they were all about and focused on that, so they stood out. Tho I'm glad to know that Team A eventually grew to the point were no matter what they try, they'll be good at it. Makes you feel proud when you watch this again haha :')
True tho. They we're sti finding their own style and flavour
위너 버전 나만 바라봐. 진짜 취향저격!! 너무 젛아~~~
위너는 이때도 뭔가 위너팝이 있는것같당
It's sweet how Seungri always rooted for team A, he always encourages them at the right moment, Seungri must have really known and can relate to them, he's the funniest now but no doubt, struggled the most during the documentary for Big Bang. YGFAM all the way
it's not empathy more people tend to like team A because they're simply unique and different from each other and they have flaws and not too perfect meanwhile for Team B their only problem is being too perfect. They're so well prepared. In the end it doesn't matter anymore the both team debuted :)
Team b is basically SM idol. Perfect but feels manufactured
@@MrRdlv I know you are winner stan that's why you said that. If you really know ikon you wouldn't said such a thing. They are perfect because they practice hard and you should respect that.
Your comment is offensive to sm stans and ikon stans.
@@MrRdlv what the heck do u mean by manufactured.. They're their own self. Have some respect for both the teams
@1_ ADELLIA NAURA IZZATI agreed. Team B needed polishing and their vocals weren't up to mark. They were younger and less experienced (though the rap line rocked) They were too dependent on BI and Bobby here.
But on Mix and Match they improved so much and each person finally stood out alone themselves. Their vocals were great and they brought out the uniqueness in themselves. And now iKON has one of the best stage presence in 3rd gen!
YG artists fighting!!
@@MrRdlv manufactured? No, it's because they have a solid teamwork compared to Team A which is why they seem more perfect. Team B's members are individually very different from each other but had a strong leader who held them together while team A didn't, which was why team A struggled so much in the beginning.
아이콘 ♥ 진짜 믹스앤매치보면 노래 실력 발음 등 겁나 늠 그리고 여유로워지고 ♥ 위너 ㅠㅜ 둘다 컴백...
확실히 a팀이 감정이입이 된다 정말 맞는 말임
좀 시련과 부족해보이는 모습이 있어야 사랑하게 되는 것 같아
너무 완벽해보이면 사랑까지 못 감
적어도 난 그렇더라고
한국 대중도 대체적으로 그런 성향이 강한 것 같다
a팀이 되어서 다행임 활동 잘하고 있으니 좋다