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+TheManaSource Love them! And especially the price integration to get a better understanding of the value of unknown (at least for me) cards. Keep up the good work, wish you the best!
+TheManaSource very nice deck i was wondering could you make a tech deck for commander i want to see a mil dimir color deck and keep up the awesome videos ^^
Dope video, love it. I especially appreciated the short "how to play/primer" segment towards the end. So many deck videos just cover the cards in the deck but never really explain how they interact or what plays you should make in what order. Would love to see that part expanded in future videos if you feel it's warranted. Thanks for continuing to make such great content on such a consistent basis!
+gmw827 yes, how dare they try to make some money from the thing they work at for a living. How dare they get a sponsorship to help support themselves. I guess a better option is the boys work for free making videos so internet trolls don't have idiotic things to say about them.
dullest penguin dude i already said "oh, i dont have a problem with him being endorsed by tcg, or "selling out" or whatever you want to call it. i think tcgplayer is a great business, and i think the mana source is a great youtube channel" and if you read the comments before commenting, you would know that. i also said, and i quote " just starting to wonder if they give him a quota for how many times he has to say "tcgplayer" in the videos. Its rather weird to hear him change his content into a commercial." try reading the full conversation next time you have an interjection.
Love deck techs. The inclusion of TCG prices is also helpful. Viable Budget Modern is great, gives me ideas for cards to trade for and slowly build a deck that wont rotate any time soon.
I love seeing budget homebrew decks. I run a mardu colored midrange deck in modern it makes me happy that we don't always have to see one thousand dollar decks
Can confirm. Built the deck after seeing this video. Played it against my friends' modern decks last night. I went 2-1 against Naya Burn, 2-1 against mill, and 3-0 against Eldrazi. I can't wait to try it against other decks. Thanks!
i just realized that this deck is really similar to my first magic deck ever i built for innistrad standard ... revenge of the hunted won me sooo many games :D great video wedge ... keep up the great work :)
I have this deck, it's really good fun and as Wedge says can surprise people at FNM :) I run 1 x Surrak, the Hunt Caller main, 5 hasty power turn 4 can surprise people and sometimes close out a game. I'd also recommend some amount of Dismember; sometimes you just need removal and sadly its about as reliable as this deck can have. having 4 tapped lands seems a bit slow as well, this deck really doesn't want to have a turn behind on mana. Good fun INEXPENSIVE deck overall though! Great vid as always TMS, keep it up :)
Ran a variant of this last Friday, and went 4-0. I don't currently run as many creatures, but I may throw my Thrun into the main deck and snag a few more Scoozes. I also run mutagenic in my build, which usually acts as a 2 life counterspell. Love the deck!
+kyle mitchell I'd mess around with it. Unlike most company decks you're mostly hitting 1 or 2 drops rather than 3 drops, so it's not the best company deck, but that card will get value in a deck like this regardless.
+kyle mitchell I always preferred Nykthos + Lead The Stampede. Potential 5 cards for 3 mana (always hits at least 2 unless you have really bad luck), so its good hand replenishment, and Nykthos makes all the creatures you hit easy to cast in multiples.
So Modern is Finally coming to my local games store thanks to so many requests we've been hounding the owner with, and I'm going to get to use this deck in a real tournament. I'm very excited
One card I like for mono green stompy stuff is elvish piper. Especially if you're playing stuff that costs more than about 5 or 6 to play. Another couple creatures I like are hangarback walker and it that betrays. Hangarback walker can get bigger just by tapping it. Granted you will have to wait to attack with it by doing so but it works. It that betrays just slowly takes over your opponents board and has a huge body. If you can get it on the field for a single green then why not? It's cmc is 12. It doesn't help with devotion but I didn't see any devotion reliant cards except number of forests. Maybe a couple ramp pieces early game would be nice too just to help get your stuff out a turn early potentially. Especially the good stuff. Why not put a 3 drop on the table on turn 2? It just helps out the aggro that the deck has.
Really like the deck tech =) I have a deck very similar to this, though i am a bit more on the devotion theme for a full playset of Aspect of Hydra. I run Elvish Mystic over the Dryad Militant, Predator Ooze instead of Leatherback's, 3 Nykthos and to refill the hand 3 copies of Warrior's Lesson. "Top" of the curve woul be 3 Mistcutter Hydra and 2 Khalni Hydra. That build allows Avatar to get really big and it can pump out the Khalni Hydra super fast!
Make sure to sideboard against Affinity. Creeping Corrosion and Manglehorn. Also dismember is a great include in the main deck. This deck is actually very competitive.
I was playing Stompy at my LGS a while before the ban. The deck is actually really good considering the cost. I would definitely recommend it for anyone who wants a super-budget modern deck that can actually win a good percentage of the time. I wouldn't take it to a GP, but for weekly tournaments it's a pretty good choice.
A great card in this deck is Surrak, the Hunt Caller ( usually a 2 of in my experience).It can help in some game steals where the already pressured opponent suddenly can't deal with a 5/4 hasted and angry SUrrak
What about wilt-leaf liege as budget replacement for the decks top end? It has 3 devotion to green and buffs up your other green creatures. Also fights against discard, if Lilliana is still a thing.
Aspect should always be a 4 of. He says 3 in the vid, but I think Revenge should just be the 4th Aspect. The non-creature spells should be: 4 Rancor 4 Aspect of Hydra 4 Vines of Vastwood
This green deck looks sweet. I'm trying to build a modern deck and I'm thinking about a jund soulflayer deck and would like to see your take on the deck.
What about witchstalker instead of kolonian tusker? dodges bolt and path, grows avatar of resolute, grows as they dismember your other creatures and has the same devotion and only 1,50 each
how about caustic caterpillar as artifact/enchantment hate from sb. Helps with not watering down your deck during board because it can beat in for one until you pop it.
how often is scavenging ooze better than kalonian tusker? What about the lower toughness of an untriggered avatar of the resolute vs say, also kalonian tusker?
I feel the need to mention that my local game store had a box of Zendikar commons and uncommons, and I got a playset of Vines of Vastwood at 60¢ (15¢ apiece).
I have the red black eldrazi pingers deck and really liked it. Could you do a budget upgrade with oath cards? Thanks for all the great videos you've been making.
Not bad, I'd also suggest adding a red splash for Ghor-Clan Rampager as a sweet ramp/trample enabler that dodges a lot of counterspells. But I guess that might be screwing with the budget part so, you know .D
so, I've been kicking around a scarecrow tribal deck, based around Reaper King. I don't suppose you guys could try a take on the idea? you have to run a lot of tutor effects to be sure of getting either it or something that can tutor for it in the opening hand, but repeating vindicates are fun.
Howl of the Night Pack might also be a good option. It's a 7 drop, Sure, put a 2/2 Token for EACH of your Forests is amazing. I once managed to get 14 tokens in a mono green mana ramp deck when it was in Standard.
I think Tangle Golem would be a good budget replacement for Leatherback Baloth, while you can't cast him turn 3 you can cast him for 3 on turn 4, 2 on turn 5 and so on and he is a 5/4 instead of 4/5. Then since you wouldn't be running devotion i would replace Aspect of Hydra with Primal Bellow, which also gives you a good reason to only run basic forest lands (both Golem & Bellow).
I've done a variant of this for my local group, and it's even modern legal. In my case I also ran Boggart Ram Gang and Garruk Wildspeaker instead of Thrun and Dungrove, and Avatar didn't exist at the time. Dungrove seems better for a more midrange strat. Good old fashioned Troll Ascetic might be a good option as well, and now with Collected Company, there is some definite potential here. I can see the use of Oran Riefs and Treetops, but they seem far too slow for a balls-out deck like this. Lots of ways a deck like this can go, and some anti-sweeper cards in the side would be very useful IMHO. Great option for budget, but obviously in this Eldrazi dominant meta if it has any chance to win it has to be blindingly fast or have a means of grossly overpowering or resisting threats.
Would ad the devoition lands from thereos and cream of the crop. garruk caller of beast can refil your hand and nylea god of the hunt or primeval bounty is pure fun. one worldspine wurm played from garruk is fun as well when you pull it of. the cards cost about 5 $ each, cream of the crop is only about 2 $ and amazing value if not removed instantly by your opponent.
If your meta is removal heavy, I suggest Primal below over Aspect of Hydra. Also, it's a wonder that the basic giant growth isn't mentioned and neither is groundbreaker. Lastly as a surprise card I use one Uktabi Drake then pump it with everything I have.
TheMCGamer2012 Oh, that may be interesting. Primal Rage, I think I'll try it to see how it works over rancor. The deck over all seems to be more midrange. With the dork bird and all the 3+ cmc spells. My question is, does vengevine's reccursion work a lot in this deck? Seems harder to pull off here.
Primal Rage may be swapped-out in the future. Some other considerations that didn't make the deck are mostly to keep it budget. (Like Horizon Canopy). Also, Mimic Vat is new addition, and needs more testing. To answer your question, you really only pull up Vengevine if you are trying to- so it does not really happen unless you plan for it. Really though, he and Strangleroot are the only non-echo creatures that are kept alive for more than a turn that I don't mind swinging. Your main approach with Vengevine is: I will play him with his boost from the Forcemage, and I likely have a way to give him trample, but I do not care if he dies in combat because if I *need* him back I can plan for it.
TheMCGamer2012 Thanks for the info, so here's some in return. If you're doing some Stompy Brews like me. I suggest not placing Horizon Canopy in the deck list if you're using any of the variants with Dungrove Elder and Treetop Village in the brew. The lifeloss is normally ok if you have scavenging ooze but I've lost a number of games from pinging myself for two with two Canopies in play. The mana source you sac for the draw will also make you thirst for mana, making it hard to activate Treetop Village. As for Dungrove Elder, he isn't a scary 2/2 for 3 mana. Especially when he can't grow when you happen to have 1 forest 2 canopies and 2 treetops. -_-
I am thinking about adding Dungrove actually, but he doesn't quite synergize with Forcemage well without haste. Same thing with Predator Ooze. Treetop is good, but a bit slow considering it's more midrange like you said. I really wanna get a land I can tap on the drop like a Forest. Thank you for the advice, and feel free to playtest/use the deck if you'd like! :)
What about Khalni Hydra and Primalcrux? They are a little bit out of the budget cards, but they would be a 4-drop 8/8 trample and a 6-drop 20/20... So they worth it, or am I wrong?
I have a question that I hope someone can lend an answer to. As I've only been playing mtg for about 6 months and am still getting the swings of things. That said my question is, HOW does one go about "Evolving" their deck to a better one without changing it completely?? For example, this deck! Love this deck! Is it a good "Move" (so-to-speak) to say, replace the Leatherback's with a set of Pimeval Titans? Or does it not really work that way because the rest of the deck has "lower" mana cost? I guess, how do you know what you should do in comparison to what you can do or what would make sense?? Wedge if you could lend an opinion. I mean the cards $8 a piece so I'd have to assume it can't just be as easy as "This is a budget deck" so that one play set we won't add because you may have to spend a little money on one set of cards. Then again, I could be wrong... Thanks
Some decks can be evolved and others can not. Stompy has a clear upper limit, you do not want Pimeval Titans in this. Thrun, Dungrove Elder, Scavenging Ooze are already the more expensive options. With other decks there is more room, replacing Duress with Thoughtseize for example.
Would you ever consider running Vigor, even in the sideboard? I understand the 6 CMC is off putting but it has helped me best Zoo and Burn decks in the late game. I tend to use it in a kitschy Elf variant against my friend's Landfall Beast deck.
I made myself a list of this deck 8D (updated for Kaladesh,kinda.) //Lands 14 Forest 2 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood //Spells 3 Aspect of Hydra 3 Beast Within 3 Blossoming Defense 3 Rancor //Creatures 4 Avatar of the Resolute 4 Dryad Militant 4 Experiment One 4 Garruk's Companion 4 Leatherback Baloth 4 Scavenging Ooze 4 Strangleroot Geist 4 Young Wolf That's like...50 bucks,using TCG lowest. And it's surprisingly powerfull. It won't win you a GP or a Protour, butit WILL hold itself against tier 1 decks on your FNM. Have fun :3
Thanks for the tech Wedge! I was planning on building this before to get into Modern, I love green. What are your thoughts (or others thoughts) on using less spells in the deck?
+gibbage1 Surrak, the hunt caller is better because most coco decks hit like knight of the reliquary plus loxodon smiter, we hit at best realistically strangle root geist plus dryad militant. Still okay though.
These deck techs with TCGplayer price integration will be done twice a month. Wondering what you think of them?
Hope you're all having a great day. Thanks for watching as always
it's great :3
You should do eternal command
+TheManaSource Love them! And especially the price integration to get a better understanding of the value of unknown (at least for me) cards.
Keep up the good work, wish you the best!
+TheManaSource very nice deck i was wondering could you make a tech deck for commander i want to see a mil dimir color deck and keep up the awesome videos ^^
+BTIsaac It says in the video
Dope video, love it. I especially appreciated the short "how to play/primer" segment towards the end. So many deck videos just cover the cards in the deck but never really explain how they interact or what plays you should make in what order. Would love to see that part expanded in future videos if you feel it's warranted. Thanks for continuing to make such great content on such a consistent basis!
Ah, my first and pet favourite Modern deck. I've been suggesting this as a budget option for ages, so it's nice to see it get some love. Thanks Wedge!
new drinking game, take a drink every time wedge says "tcgplayer". you're welcome.
+gmw827 brb ded
+gmw827 yes, how dare they try to make some money from the thing they work at for a living. How dare they get a sponsorship to help support themselves. I guess a better option is the boys work for free making videos so internet trolls don't have idiotic things to say about them.
+Blakklistedd Not ded, Enabled delve.
dullest penguin dude i already said "oh, i dont have a problem with him being endorsed by tcg, or "selling out" or whatever you want to call it. i think tcgplayer is a great business, and i think the mana source is a great youtube channel" and if you read the comments before commenting, you would know that. i also said, and i quote " just starting to wonder if they give him a quota for how many times he has to say "tcgplayer" in the videos. Its rather weird to hear him change his content into a commercial." try reading the full conversation next time you have an interjection.
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I actually love the TCGPlayer endorsement. And the deck techs!
This has been my favorite Modern deck for the longest time. Thank you for teching this!
when I first got into modern, this is the first deck I built, tons of fun to play, I loved it!
I really like how gave an more budget version, thank you so much!
Love deck techs. The inclusion of TCG prices is also helpful. Viable Budget Modern is great, gives me ideas for cards to trade for and slowly build a deck that wont rotate any time soon.
I love seeing budget homebrew decks. I run a mardu colored midrange deck in modern it makes me happy that we don't always have to see one thousand dollar decks
Can confirm. Built the deck after seeing this video. Played it against my friends' modern decks last night. I went 2-1 against Naya Burn, 2-1 against mill, and 3-0 against Eldrazi. I can't wait to try it against other decks.
Thanks!
i just realized that this deck is really similar to my first magic deck ever i built for innistrad standard ... revenge of the hunted won me sooo many games :D great video wedge ... keep up the great work :)
I don't always top deck, but when I do......
It's a miracle
this list really looks my own homebrew budget vintage stompy list. i like it very much, this might even draw me into modern....oooh what a feeling
AWESOME I love this deck
LOVE STOMPY. Thank you for the deck teck
I have this deck, it's really good fun and as Wedge says can surprise people at FNM :) I run 1 x Surrak, the Hunt Caller main, 5 hasty power turn 4 can surprise people and sometimes close out a game. I'd also recommend some amount of Dismember; sometimes you just need removal and sadly its about as reliable as this deck can have. having 4 tapped lands seems a bit slow as well, this deck really doesn't want to have a turn behind on mana. Good fun INEXPENSIVE deck overall though!
Great vid as always TMS, keep it up :)
Just sold 2 Thruns and an Avatar of Resolute to a guy looking to build this deck on PucaTrade! Thanks for the influence/opportunity!
Ran a variant of this last Friday, and went 4-0. I don't currently run as many creatures, but I may throw my Thrun into the main deck and snag a few more Scoozes. I also run mutagenic in my build, which usually acts as a 2 life counterspell. Love the deck!
would collected company be good in this deck?
it's a great card for the deck
YAAS
+kyle mitchell I'd mess around with it. Unlike most company decks you're mostly hitting 1 or 2 drops rather than 3 drops, so it's not the best company deck, but that card will get value in a deck like this regardless.
+kyle mitchell
I always preferred Nykthos + Lead The Stampede. Potential 5 cards for 3 mana (always hits at least 2 unless you have really bad luck), so its good hand replenishment, and Nykthos makes all the creatures you hit easy to cast in multiples.
+kyle mitchell I tried it, it`s good but not great. But as a one or two of it`s fine, since people won`t be expecting it ^^
I'd be totally fine if TMS became an all-deck tech channel! These are great. :) Oh but also the lore series. Those are good too. :)
now this is a modern deck I can get behind. I gotta get this. and start playing modern. just looking at this deck makes me want to play it.
I really like that you guys are doing more deck techs! They are great!
liked the break down and pro-tips after the deck tech.
So Modern is Finally coming to my local games store thanks to so many requests we've been hounding the owner with, and I'm going to get to use this deck in a real tournament. I'm very excited
I love these videos as a not rich person it helps me get into the modern play you should do more of these
yes I was just thinking about this deck this morning
One card I like for mono green stompy stuff is elvish piper. Especially if you're playing stuff that costs more than about 5 or 6 to play. Another couple creatures I like are hangarback walker and it that betrays. Hangarback walker can get bigger just by tapping it. Granted you will have to wait to attack with it by doing so but it works. It that betrays just slowly takes over your opponents board and has a huge body. If you can get it on the field for a single green then why not? It's cmc is 12. It doesn't help with devotion but I didn't see any devotion reliant cards except number of forests. Maybe a couple ramp pieces early game would be nice too just to help get your stuff out a turn early potentially. Especially the good stuff. Why not put a 3 drop on the table on turn 2? It just helps out the aggro that the deck has.
Really like the deck tech =)
I have a deck very similar to this, though i am a bit more on the devotion theme for a full playset of Aspect of Hydra.
I run Elvish Mystic over the Dryad Militant, Predator Ooze instead of Leatherback's, 3 Nykthos and to refill the hand 3 copies of Warrior's Lesson. "Top" of the curve woul be 3 Mistcutter Hydra and 2 Khalni Hydra. That build allows Avatar to get really big and it can pump out the Khalni Hydra super fast!
I actually watched this on Facebook, but came here to make sure to "like" it. :)
I've been thinking on making this deck. With possibly throwing in the super ramp legendary devotion land from Theros.
Make sure to sideboard against Affinity. Creeping Corrosion and Manglehorn. Also dismember is a great include in the main deck. This deck is actually very competitive.
I was playing Stompy at my LGS a while before the ban. The deck is actually really good considering the cost. I would definitely recommend it for anyone who wants a super-budget modern deck that can actually win a good percentage of the time. I wouldn't take it to a GP, but for weekly tournaments it's a pretty good choice.
any chance that you could re do this when dominaria drops?
KGBM Art yes please
A great card in this deck is Surrak, the Hunt Caller ( usually a 2 of in my experience).It can help in some game steals where the already pressured opponent suddenly can't deal with a 5/4 hasted and angry SUrrak
what would you replace from this list for surrak? I have a few copies.
What about wilt-leaf liege as budget replacement for the decks top end? It has 3 devotion to green and buffs up your other green creatures. Also fights against discard, if Lilliana is still a thing.
2 of Aspect I assume? I checked, you don't list the count on it in the video when you discuss it.
Aspect should always be a 4 of. He says 3 in the vid, but I think Revenge should just be the 4th Aspect.
The non-creature spells should be:
4 Rancor
4 Aspect of Hydra
4 Vines of Vastwood
I just happen to have most of this with the exception of the Avatars and Thrun. I think I'll toss it together and give it a spin.
Garruk's Companion is also really strong cuz its 2 mana for a 3/2 with trample. Its a great aspect of the hydra target (it's also double green)
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Blood Moon in Mono Green Stompy Sideboard.
Whaddya think.
This green deck looks sweet. I'm trying to build a modern deck and I'm thinking about a jund soulflayer deck and would like to see your take on the deck.
What about witchstalker instead of kolonian tusker? dodges bolt and path, grows avatar of resolute, grows as they dismember your other creatures and has the same devotion and only 1,50 each
wow this deck seems really strong. Nice deck tech
I want this deck. The only things I would think about changing are finding a place for Predator Ooze and maybe Epic Confrontation.
how about caustic caterpillar as artifact/enchantment hate from sb. Helps with not watering down your deck during board because it can beat in for one until you pop it.
how often is scavenging ooze better than kalonian tusker? What about the lower toughness of an untriggered avatar of the resolute vs say, also kalonian tusker?
Are there any other versions of these decks that run hardened scales and or a managorger hydra
I feel the need to mention that my local game store had a box of Zendikar commons and uncommons, and I got a playset of Vines of Vastwood at 60¢ (15¢ apiece).
I have the red black eldrazi pingers deck and really liked it. Could you do a budget upgrade with oath cards? Thanks for all the great videos you've been making.
Not bad, I'd also suggest adding a red splash for Ghor-Clan Rampager as a sweet ramp/trample enabler that dodges a lot of counterspells. But I guess that might be screwing with the budget part so, you know .D
I run 2 hardened scales instead of the aspects. makes giest, avatar and the ooze greater than they already are
I would add some Tajuru preservers to the sideboard for against sacrifice strategies (maybe 2)
I love green. you guys made my day!!!
This gets played a decent amount at my lgs actually. Had to sideboard in Hibernation for it normally. Though I'm running Kiln Fiend Hyper aggro atm
so, I've been kicking around a scarecrow tribal deck, based around Reaper King. I don't suppose you guys could try a take on the idea? you have to run a lot of tutor effects to be sure of getting either it or something that can tutor for it in the opening hand, but repeating vindicates are fun.
Gotcha. Thanks!
Howl of the Night Pack might also be a good option. It's a 7 drop, Sure, put a 2/2 Token for EACH of your Forests is amazing. I once managed to get 14 tokens in a mono green mana ramp deck when it was in Standard.
hmm a one of Wild Defiance seems a good addition lol or multiples target it with a pump another +3/+3 for the turn.
this deck is really fun, also there's a lot if info on this deck and diff. versions if it on mtgsalvation
I think Tangle Golem would be a good budget replacement for Leatherback Baloth, while you can't cast him turn 3 you can cast him for 3 on turn 4, 2 on turn 5 and so on and he is a 5/4 instead of 4/5. Then since you wouldn't be running devotion i would replace Aspect of Hydra with Primal Bellow, which also gives you a good reason to only run basic forest lands (both Golem & Bellow).
Would there be any space for Managorger Hydra?
what if you added a surrak the hunt caller?
could the dungrove elders be replaced with undergrowth champions, for budget reasons?
I've done a variant of this for my local group, and it's even modern legal. In my case I also ran Boggart Ram Gang and Garruk Wildspeaker instead of Thrun and Dungrove, and Avatar didn't exist at the time. Dungrove seems better for a more midrange strat. Good old fashioned Troll Ascetic might be a good option as well, and now with Collected Company, there is some definite potential here. I can see the use of Oran Riefs and Treetops, but they seem far too slow for a balls-out deck like this. Lots of ways a deck like this can go, and some anti-sweeper cards in the side would be very useful IMHO. Great option for budget, but obviously in this Eldrazi dominant meta if it has any chance to win it has to be blindingly fast or have a means of grossly overpowering or resisting threats.
Definitely think Nykthos would be an absolutely amazing way to upgrade to this.
Also note, If you play against Infect you can Vines of the Vastwood their creature to give it hexproof from them.
+TheManaSource can you update the skeleton deck? Since Champion of stray souls came out, the deck can be stronger
i don't plan on getting thrun or the elder. i have the tuskers and i love it. it is such a fun deck to play
What is the sideboard for this deck?????
Would ad the devoition lands from thereos and cream of the crop. garruk caller of beast can refil your hand and nylea god of the hunt or primeval bounty is pure fun. one worldspine wurm played from garruk is fun as well when you pull it of.
the cards cost about 5 $ each, cream of the crop is only about 2 $ and amazing value if not removed instantly by your opponent.
i like this series on your channel
Have any suggestions for upgrading the deck, Wedge?
If your meta is removal heavy, I suggest Primal below over Aspect of Hydra. Also, it's a wonder that the basic giant growth isn't mentioned and neither is groundbreaker. Lastly as a surprise card I use one Uktabi Drake then pump it with everything I have.
TheMCGamer2012 Oh, that may be interesting. Primal Rage, I think I'll try it to see how it works over rancor.
The deck over all seems to be more midrange. With the dork bird and all the 3+ cmc spells.
My question is, does vengevine's reccursion work a lot in this deck? Seems harder to pull off here.
Primal Rage may be swapped-out in the future. Some other considerations that didn't make the deck are mostly to keep it budget. (Like Horizon Canopy). Also, Mimic Vat is new addition, and needs more testing.
To answer your question, you really only pull up Vengevine if you are trying to- so it does not really happen unless you plan for it. Really though, he and Strangleroot are the only non-echo creatures that are kept alive for more than a turn that I don't mind swinging.
Your main approach with Vengevine is: I will play him with his boost from the Forcemage, and I likely have a way to give him trample, but I do not care if he dies in combat because if I *need* him back I can plan for it.
TheMCGamer2012 Thanks for the info, so here's some in return.
If you're doing some Stompy Brews like me. I suggest not placing Horizon Canopy in the deck list if you're using any of the variants with Dungrove Elder and Treetop Village in the brew.
The lifeloss is normally ok if you have scavenging ooze but I've lost a number of games from pinging myself for two with two Canopies in play.
The mana source you sac for the draw will also make you thirst for mana, making it hard to activate Treetop Village. As for Dungrove Elder, he isn't a scary 2/2 for 3 mana. Especially when he can't grow when you happen to have 1 forest 2 canopies and 2 treetops. -_-
I am thinking about adding Dungrove actually, but he doesn't quite synergize with Forcemage well without haste. Same thing with Predator Ooze. Treetop is good, but a bit slow considering it's more midrange like you said. I really wanna get a land I can tap on the drop like a Forest.
Thank you for the advice, and feel free to playtest/use the deck if you'd like! :)
What about Khalni Hydra and Primalcrux? They are a little bit out of the budget cards, but they would be a 4-drop 8/8 trample and a 6-drop 20/20... So they worth it, or am I wrong?
ok Wedge, got my brain churning once again gotta do some mods to my mono green trample and I think I could give this deck a run for its budget money
can you do a b/u laboratory mechanic inverter of truth deck tech next?
I'm surprised your not running any hydra's in this. most are on the higher end of the curve but getting one down pretty much seals the game
Love all the dech decks!
I play a similar decklist and really like collected company
I have this deck and love it. What do you think about Reverent Hunter? Such a bomb in this deck
I have a question that I hope someone can lend an answer to. As I've only been playing mtg for about 6 months and am still getting the swings of things. That said my question is, HOW does one go about "Evolving" their deck to a better one without changing it completely?? For example, this deck! Love this deck! Is it a good "Move" (so-to-speak) to say, replace the Leatherback's with a set of Pimeval Titans? Or does it not really work that way because the rest of the deck has "lower" mana cost? I guess, how do you know what you should do in comparison to what you can do or what would make sense?? Wedge if you could lend an opinion. I mean the cards $8 a piece so I'd have to assume it can't just be as easy as "This is a budget deck" so that one play set we won't add because you may have to spend a little money on one set of cards. Then again, I could be wrong... Thanks
Some decks can be evolved and others can not. Stompy has a clear upper limit, you do not want Pimeval Titans in this. Thrun, Dungrove Elder, Scavenging Ooze are already the more expensive options. With other decks there is more room, replacing Duress with Thoughtseize for example.
Gotchya! Thanks
Hey Wedge, do you think you could do a budget deck tech on Waste Not Strom?
Can you tech the new Cheeri0s deck with Monastery Mentor and Myth Realized?
Would you ever consider running Vigor, even in the sideboard? I understand the 6 CMC is off putting but it has helped me best Zoo and Burn decks in the late game. I tend to use it in a kitschy Elf variant against my friend's Landfall Beast deck.
Any thoughts on throwing in 4 collected company?
What do you think of Blossoming Defense in this deck? Maybe over Hunt or over Aspect?
This deck seems perfect for an Overrun type effect.
I made myself a list of this deck 8D (updated for Kaladesh,kinda.)
//Lands
14 Forest
2 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
//Spells
3 Aspect of Hydra
3 Beast Within
3 Blossoming Defense
3 Rancor
//Creatures
4 Avatar of the Resolute
4 Dryad Militant
4 Experiment One
4 Garruk's Companion
4 Leatherback Baloth
4 Scavenging Ooze
4 Strangleroot Geist
4 Young Wolf
That's like...50 bucks,using TCG lowest. And it's surprisingly powerfull. It won't win you a GP or a Protour, butit WILL hold itself against tier 1 decks on your FNM. Have fun :3
Wedge, like the price graphic with the cards, in this deck is there any place for undergrowth champion or thragtusk?
tcgplayer has always been my favorite place to buy cards
I wonder, would Khalni Hydra be any good in this deck?
Would Khalni Hydra be good in a not-as budget version?
Is there a sideboard or did I miss it?
I would love to see a video about RG tron
can you do blue white ally mill for modern
I just found your channel I hope you come back to.making videos
Blanchwood armor? Just wondering ... Seems like the thing to have in mono green...
how do you feel about evolutionary leap I'm the sideboard?
Thanks for the tech Wedge! I was planning on building this before to get into Modern, I love green. What are your thoughts (or others thoughts) on using less spells in the deck?
Would CoCo be a good upgrade in this deck? They are almost all 3 drops or less. It would replace some pump spells though.
What do you mean with coco?
iJimjerk collected company
+gibbage1 Oh ok
+gibbage1 Surrak, the hunt caller is better because most coco decks hit like knight of the reliquary plus loxodon smiter, we hit at best realistically strangle root geist plus dryad militant. Still okay though.
Rogues passage any good?