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- In 1054, tensions between the east and west exploded, resulting in the great schism of 1054. In this video, we dive in to explain the reasons for this schism, and the historical context!
Please enjoy this complete documentary, explaining the Great Schism of 1054, when the East and West Divided!
i’m an atheist and i love how informative and non-biased your videos seem, keep up the good work!!
Hey thanks Sara! Really appreciate it
The non-biased ones are usually the most one sided or swayed side. Use people like this to do your own thinking for sure but like he even noted in the video he is from the west and has a bias.
Keep listening Sara 🙏
@@justonetime112usually the ones who listen and research the most, become atheists.
@@1d2y Yes & the most one sided or swayed side are usually the most non-biased… Is it Opposite Day where you live? Lol.
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Thank you for this video. This is the best video explanation of the Great Schism I have yet seen.
Unbiased and really informative. Loved the work involved in making the video🤩👏🏻
Thank-you for your support Asmi! I'm glad you appreciate the incredible history of christianity
Very good video, bring up somethings not mentioned even in a university class, like the renegade egos involved, keep up the vids! We need more religous history videos!
Thankyou Markus! I totally agree that we need more high quality and unbiased videos of religious history!
Great video! Roman Catholic here!
I live in England currently but my family originated in Russia, so we follow Russian Orthodox. I see Orthodox as being the one true Christian religion that follows original scriptures. Today we see western Christian religions turning its back on the laws of God and following human made laws which is taking Christianity down an immoral pathway. However, the great Schism did not end in 1054 as the Catholic church also divided into many other sub-sects bringing any reunification much harder. At end of day though it is up to each individusal to choose to follow one religion or no religion and we should respect people's choices.
En Latinoamerica sigue siendo católica pero hay un aumentos de protestantes de corte pentecostal y una minoría sin religión. Saludos y Dios los bendiga desde México.
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you say that as if the orthodox church isn't in a similar situation? you guys had an ENTIRE NEW schism literally in 2018. Before reunification can even be an idea, BOTH churches need to get their shit together, and the Russian Orthodox Church needs to stop being schismatic.
@@arturmonteiro8541It's not dogmatic. It's based on jurisdiction. I think it's just the Patriarchs and hierarchs don't commemorate each other or have intercommunion. It doesn't mean the laity are schismatics. Bartholomew is overstepping his boundaries and wants to be Pope of Orthodoxy. He's a political pawn controlled by the CIA wants union with Rome. This is nothing new within Orthodoxy. There have been political intrigues going back to the days of the Apostles.
@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy I agree, in fact, the actions I've seen the ecumenical patriarch (not just this one, but some going back into history) seem to overstep "first among equals." For example, Orthodox say no bishop, even a Patriarch, has jurisdiction outside of their diocese, but how the hell does the ecumenical patriarch then go and give the Ukrainian Church autocephaly, when that is outside of his diocese, it doesnt make sense to me
Just feel good listening about historical events like this
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im a methodist but it’s because i’m only 17 and i just go with my parents but i’ll either convert to greek orthodox or roman catholic when im older just gotta work out the differences and see what i believe in
Look into the Orthodox Survival Course by Fr. Seraphim Rose. It's a crash course study on Western history, culture, religion, philosophy, science and the Orthodox view of it.
Just become agnostic. I don’t know is the only honest answer
That was fascinating... thank you so much.
@Kas In USA I really appreciate your comment, thank-you for your support!
I am the member of Holy roman catholic Church from North East India Mizoram
Pride is the original sin. We see that again and again in history. God have mercy on us!
Looking back, you are absolutely right Nora! I do not know how that slipped by me! I have to remake this video anyways because of a few errors regarding the Hutterites. I will right this wrong, I promise!!
Proud Papists that want to promote the heretical Filioque and exalt their Pope above Christ. Now they give blessings to Skittles and claim an Amazonian fertility goddess is the same thing as the Virgin Mary. They need to come home to Orthodoxy.
I found this video very informative Thanks a lot I should share this with my history class and subscribe on your channel also :)
@Prof. Bjorn Manalo I am humbled by your comment, thank-you so much brother! I am glad you are teaching your students about the incredible history of Christianity!
Hi, I am Ethiopian Orthodox 🇪🇹 and I love being Orthodox! I always say this, Orthodox kept the original Bible while Catholics and Protestants made changes in the Gospel! Example is “The Trinity proceeds from the Father and the Son” while Orthodox believes “Both the Son and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father” NOT the other way around!
No, you didnt. ALL ethipoian claims like that, go against history. Your only proof is ethiopian myths. You wont be able to show me any evidence, other than from something some ethiopian said. Again, history proves all your assertions wrong. ALL of them
Here we go again
Quite to the contrary.
In the Quran God speaks of 2 kinds of Christian those who Break the law like 2 men can marry and get a marriage certificate and the Orthodox Christian who keeps God's laws in order and they worship God not Jesus as God. America will be destroyed by Putin. God bless the people who up keeps the laws of God!! May Allah bless the Orthodox Christians ❤
Here goes the indoctrinated one
w; wonderful video and I totally agree that we the church need to start showing love. great job. please research a little more about what the west actually did to the east good job keep it up ... love brother
Hey, thanks for your support brother! I will certainly do some research into what you mentioned. Could you share some articles or points that you think I should check out? This would help narrow my research
Love ur very educational videos and how non biased they are I am a Mennonite
Great work! The church is Orthodox ☦️🙏 God bless
I am Romanian Christian Ortodox
I am currently non denominational but have a Greek Orthodox spiritual Father who is helping me with discipleship and conversion to Orthodox Christianity
Quaker here, hello friends, thank you for an informative video.
Hello friend! Glad you enjoyed the video.
I found this video unbiased and very correct in its historical discussion of the great schism. Or as I like to say "The food fight of two petulant church leaders." It is also a good example of Jesus' teachings that "the letter of the law kills the spirit of the law." As followers of the Universal Christ Spirit -- God's unremitting selfless and caring Love made manifest into the universe -- we are to concentrate on what we hold in common , and now get hung up on trivialities of different beliefs and traditions.
Thank you for your research. I'm in the process of writing a book called Rightly Dividing, that is documenting the death of evangelicalism in the United States but explaining the roots of denominational division similarly to what you're working at.
Do you ever document your source material? I've been reading a lot on the early church fathers and I'm up to about the 6th century. Your video production is much more refined than mine, but feel free to reach out if you ever need any source material. I've read nearly everything in the first and second century and am regularly digging into everything in the third through 6th centuries at present. Currently I'm writing on the period between Augustine and the Great schism.
😂😂😂 this research is highschool level and not even acurate
Arianism was already addressed in the Nicene creed by saying "light of light, true God of true God," and "Of one essence with the father," both of those in reference to the son. This was a major point of the first ecumenical council. The statement of the Holy spirit proceeding from the father comes from the gospel of John 15:26, "But when the Counselor has come, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father." So I think for Orthodox Christians the addition of "and the son," seems like an an argument against holy scripture itself and adds nothing to an argument against Arianism that wasn't already addressed in the creed.
Its not contrary to what Jesus said because there is no suggestion that the Spirit doesn't proceed from the Son or that he is separate from the Son. Jesus said that everything that belongs to the Father is his and that he does whatever the Father does, and he breathed the Spirit upon the apostles, and St. Paul said the Spirit is of the Father and the Son. The original Nicene creed didn't say that the Spirit proceeded from the Son the council of Constantinople added that. The Arians in Spain suggested that the Spirit existed eternally apart from the Son. The doctrine that the Son is consubstantial with the Father doesn't make it clear that the Spirit is united from eternity to the Son.
What most don't know is that shortly after the Nicene Creed in 325, the people who signed it were exiled on charge of polytheism and Modalism, and Arianism was considered orthodox for a number of years in following councils, which lasted in a back and forth debate for 60 years until the Arianist Roman Emperor lost a terrible war against Rome's enemies, which caused people to become supersitious and believe Arianism cursed Rome (which was propagated by the Trinity supporters), which aided in the Trinitarian's position to get it canonised. The following Roman Emperor (who was Trinitarian) after roughly 381 outlawed Arianism due to his personal stance, making it punishable by death, but before then the church councils were quite split on it. Only by persecutional force did the Trinity come into offical canon of the church, and the previous Arian creed councils (which were considered canon at the time) were revoked, restablishing Nicene's Creed (but with alterations in an attempt to "fix" the accusation of Modalism), that's why the Nicene creed had to be declared twice.
How about Arianism was already dealt with in the Bible. Why do we need some man made council to tell us something that the word of God is very clear about?
@@stevenl1706 Arianism predated the canon of NT being canonized by the Church, so there was was no such thing as the New Testament, only the Old Testament at the time. The books and letters of the NT of course had been written, but with no NT it wasn’t, “just dealt with in the Bible.” Besides; the model for the Church was set by the Apostles in Acts 15. The authority of the Church was not then, nor after that for random individuals to interpret scripture on their own. Just as in Acts 15, they called a council, namely of those who were of Apostolic Bishoprics, and were lead of the Holy Spirit. That’s how we have the doctrines of the Trinity, the two natures of Christ, the scripture (first introduced at the council of Hippo, then accepted by the Church a few years later at Carthage). So ironically it was one of those “man made councils,” that determined the books of the New Testament.
@@stevenl1706It was a major heresy in those days and it needed to be formally addressed by the entire Orthodox Church to dogmatically confirm what they always believed about the divinity of Christ. It's the same thing that happened when heretical Judaizers were everywhere in the early Church. The Apostles called the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15 to confirm that the Gentiles would become converted to the true God and that circumcision was not needed anymore. They reaffirmed what was always taught.
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It is true that the Orthodox regard that changing the Creed was unlawful, but most of us do not agree that it was merely a matter of legality. Rather, we also think the version of the filioque professed by Catholics (and perhaps Protestants - I don't know what version of the filioque they profess) is heretical. At the Council of Florence Rome dogmatized that the Son is a 'cause' of the Spirit's hypostasis (Person). This is the root issue. In the Greek Tradition, the Father alone is the sole cause and we consider it heresy to say otherwise. We do not believe the Son participates in the cause of the Spirit's hypostasis. Catholics do. Indeed, historically many of our saints have taught that the doctrine of the filioque as it was expressed by Rome via Florence, is heretical. But we've been rejecting this as a heresy as early as the ninth century via St Photios the Great. So it's a both-and for us. We see Rome as sadly having fallen into heresy and into schism.
Lo siento, pero nosotros profesamos que el Espíritu Santo procede también del Hijo y eso ya fue definida en un concilio local en Toledo reino de los visigodos que en ese tiempo era arrianos y los hispanorromanos católicos. Eso de subordinar al Hijo al Padre es criptoarrianismo ya que ambos son de la misma naturaleza auque distintas personas y participa en la procedencia del Espíritu Santo.
Focio fue un burocrata corrupto que lo pusieron el emperador por un reproche de San Ignacio el contantinopolitano al emperador por una relación adulterina con su nuera. Además le tenia odio a la Iglesia occidental.
@@luismanuelpotencianonorato9672The Filioque makes the Holy Spirit a subordinate creature and the Monarchy of the Father into a dyad. It upsets the order and interrelationship of the Trinity. The Son is eternally begotten of the Father. The Father and the Son share all things except causality which belongs to the Father alone. The Filioque makes two gods. The Second Ecumenical Council trumps a local council.
A new good friend in, I dislike dropping names, my small Pittsburgh east Church did her research on the Roman Catholic Church before converting to Eastern Orthodoxy (Greek Orthodox). From a short period of time born-again Christian.
The lead vocalist for the 2000s emo rock · nu metal · Christian rock band Flyleaf, Lacey Sturm. She was this über atheist as a teenager.
_I respect anyone who has two songs listened-to in Spotify .1 billion times.
So she is an Orthodox Christian?
I’m a former Protestant converted to the Holy & Apostolic Catholic Church
Truth more important than false unity
The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father - John 15:26 makes this clear "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, [that is] the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me"
Did you somehow change the title of the video?
This is the second video I made, I change the title slightly around one week ago
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I would like to read the translation of the exact document that the pope’s crowd put on the high altar, and also the responding excommunication from the Greek patriarch. Can you show me how to find those documents
A few Google searches could probably turn it up
I am from Syriac Orthodox Church (Patriarch of Antioch)
That is so interesting, thank-you for sharing that Jacob! How active is your church community?
Our Church is active in Kerala(India), Middle East,Very few European countries,US and countries like Guatemala in Latin America. Our Patriarch is now in Beirut Lebanon after fleeing Damascus due to Civil War.
Personally I'm a non-denominational Restorationist Christian (Subscribing to Arianism and Sola Scriptura as my two major central doctrines). I like history in general, but Christian history is always both fascinating and helpful for me as I always continue to put the pieces together, helping me identify a clear picture of what went wrong in the Congregations and why, so very much appreciated.
A very good book to read on the Arian controversy of this period is "When Jesus became God" by Richard Rubenstein, which is a fascinating read that delves into the details of the debates and politics of Rome and the Western vs Eastern churches not often known by most Christians, so if anyone finds the period interesting as well as the development of the doctrine of the Trinity, highly recomend. :)
God doesn’t have a creator
@@brendan25 Correct.
@@ProselyteofYah Hi, you say you ascribe to Arianism? I'm interested in what you believe? I myself am a non-trinitarian, however, I don't call myself an arian as it comes with a lot of baggage and misunderstandings, and it's difficult to decipher what he really believed as we pretty much only have the testimony of his enemies which is barely reliable.
@@jag6138 Understandable.
In short. I'm a non-trinitarian who believes Jesus is God's literal firstborn son (either by creation or creative-begetting), who pre-existed before being on Earth (as opposed to the Unitarian/Socinian view), and that he is submissive to the Father, not co-equal or co-eternal to him.
@@ProselyteofYah Interesting.
I also believe Jesus is God's literal first-born except I don't believe He was created, I believe He was begotten of the Father before all ages. And as Son begotten, not created, He inherited the nature of His Father and therefore is divine by nature as God is literally His Father.
The Latin Church was wrong to make the change without consulting the Greek Church.
No, the church of Rome had authority over the whole Church and was the final judge of doctrinal matters.
@@anthonypuccetti8779 Not at that time.
@@michaelzacharias7176 It did. Church Fathers including Roman pontiffs mention the supreme authority of the Roman church.
@@anthonypuccetti8779 lol read history
@@DCCrisisclips make an argument
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That is interesting, thank-you for your response! Which country are you from?
I'm Roman Catholic but I believe the church has been very very sick since 1045. I propose the last supper table needs to be the ideal we hold up in order to reunite East and West under Christ. The last supper table is where all of the leaders Christ chose were fully united and listening to Jesus. Yes Peter was the observable leader of the group after Christ but he was NOT the king of the group. The group was fully necessary. The 12. The concept of the 12 was so important that when Judas killed himself, the 11 picked Mathias to fill Judas's empty office, and that's in the book of Acts. The last supper table is what Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants can all work for to convert this never ending dividing and weakening of the people trying to follow Jesus Christ and restore what Christ begged the Father for. "That they may be 1..."
-I'm a convert from Atheism.
Some people are in denial. Don't really want to know the Truth.
Agreed.
Take a shot every time he says Bye-zanteen instead of Byzantine and Hair instead of heir. LOL
The Pope really said "a woman cannot be emperor, therefore I shall crown the emperor."
There are some inaccuracies. This is a common misunderstanding from the West. There was no “Byzantine” Emperor that ruled the “Eastern” Empire at that time, there was simply a Roman Empire with the Emperor residing in Constantinople. Although he’s correct on the many religious aspects that led to the Great Schism he did not include another major factor or issue. To the West, Mary had been increasingly elevated to the highest esteem much more than the East was comfortable with. The West was continuously propping her up to a position in the Church in which she would have to be divine herself in order to justify their claims. Also the Pope in the West was not under the “Eastern” Empire and so wanted more autonomy, there simply was only One Empire and as such One Emperor. Furthermore, the Apostle Peter was not, nor is he the head of the church, Jesus Christ is and always will be. I could go on & on but the real reason for the schism was that the Pope, which is Latin for Patriarch thought he alone was supreme authority of the Church and from this the split began and continues to divide the 2 sides. The Bishop of Rome is an equal
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I identify as a Russian Orthodox Christian. . 1054. The Roman church as of now has NO Grace as of now.
I am protestant but definitely not Calvanist or Pentecostal. I find it rather funny that the Orthodox church feels like they are the true church and then the Catholics feel they are the true church. Another thing I find interesting with Catholics and Orthodox is that they both claim authority over the canon of Scripture when the scriptures were God breathed and authored by Holy Spirit and written by people God chose to do the writing so scrioture belongs to God not a certain church or denomination.
Christianity is considered as a major world religion & has several branches: Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Protestantism. Defined this way, Catholicism is one division of Christianity. But true biblical Christianity is not a religion in the sense that one “joins” it by becoming a member of an organization. Jesus simplified what it means to be a Christian when He told Nicodemus that one must be “born again” (John 3:3). That new birth is an individual experience between God and a repentant heart and is not dependent in any way upon a priest’s blessing, baptism, or any other outward action we take. Ephesians 2:8-9 is clear that salvation is by grace through faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ as full payment for our sin. When we enter into that saving relationship with God, we become “new creatures” (2 Corinthians 5:17). Our new nature is not a slave to sin as we once were (John 8:34; Romans 6:16). This new nature produces righteous living, not in order to become saved, but because we have been saved (1 John 3:7-10).
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I'm Christian. Names help denote theological beliefs. But if we identify as a denomination - aka "of the name" other than jesus? What is the spirit of that but division?
I'm Greek Orthodox. The Orthodox Church is the original christian church, 2000 years old, founded AD 33 by Jesus Christ himself and the Apostles. It is Christ's church. Was known as the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. It was the church, the only church, upto 1054 with the Great Schism, where the west seperated from the east to become Roman Catholic under the Pope, and the original church to be the Eastern Orthodox Church under the Patriach today based in Constantinople, maintaining the original christian doctrine. So in effect, in my opinion, the West deviated from the original church doctrine to form their own style, through disagreement or whatever. Who knows my friends, perhaps Satan behind the scenes was behind the Schism in order to split the church and christianity in antagonism with God. Without sounding melodramatic, I believe Satan fears the Orthodox Eastern Church (original church) but has no fear for the Roman Catholic Church. Orthodox Church: Founder, Jesus Christ. Roman Catholic: Founder, Leo IX
traditional Latin Rite Catholic (mostly traditional Latin mass, though Novus Ordo as well)
I think more publication needs to be done on the connection betwee the anti-iconic Islamic takeover of most of the empire, and the iconoclams of Byzantium.
I am Catholic of the Roman Rite but believe both Orthodox and Catholic present the same One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church.
As a Catholic, I think I speak for all of us when I say that there's nothing we want more than to unify the church once more.
Unity is not the issue, Roman Western Church should reject all the new introduced teaching that is not anymore inline of the Tradition of the Church of Christ, such us, Infallibility of the Pope, Purgatory, Filio Que Clause and also claiming that the Pope is the head of the Church of Christ, plus repentance and return to its Faithfulness to Orthodoxy.
After being Christian for 53 years. I’m so glad to be protestant. While not perfect, it is far from the religious religiousness the Catholics “have to” practice. The thief on the cross next to Jesus and the pope couldn’t be farther from each other in their Christianity. And I hope to be closer to the thief than the pope and grow in honoring Him rather than I.
@@donhuffer5167 >after 53 years of being Christian, I am now Protestant
Sounds about right, since Protestants aren't Christians
@@buurmeisje your post has not a single leg to stand on.
@@donhuffer5167 Whatever makes you feel better pagan, enjoy hell
The title is mistaken. There was no Orthodox Church until after the schism. The eastern churches belonged to the Catholic Church. There is no mention in the writings of the Church Fathers and councils of an Orthodox Church.
Word concept fallacy. It was Catholic as in universal and whole, not Roman Catholic. Rome was only given honor because it was a dual Apostolic seat of Sts. Peter AND Paul and the capitol of the Empire. Take your lips off the Pope's boot.
@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy No, its not a word concept fallacy. The word catholic was used as the name of the Church, not just a concept of it. The Church is a unified body and Catholic is its name, as can be seen from the writings of the Church Fathers (including bishops of Rome) and councils. And the bishops of Rome had jurisdiction over the whole Church ever since Peter was in Rome, so the term Roman Catholic Church was and still is used to mean the whole Church. See the wikipedia page on the term Roman Catholic. The church of Rome was obeyed by all faithful bishops and priests and it was called the see and chair of Peter, not of Peter and Paul. Christ built the whole Church upon Peter and gave him authority over it. God had Peter and Paul go to Rome to build up the church there. Acts of Apostles 23: 11 And the night following the Lord standing by him, said: Be constant; for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem, so must thou bear witness also at Rome.
Wow! Fighting over bread! Humm.
In 620 C.E., the Greek language was made the official language of the Eastern Roman Empire by the Emperor Heraclius
This presentation has the usual western biased approach again. First the head of the orthodox Church was not the emperor in Constantinople. The emperor was in charge of the political power and the Patriarch was in charge of the spiritual power. This is illustrated by the two headed eagle. The West later developed the "two swords doctrine" giving both powers to the Roman Pontiff. But before the schism, before the creation of the Roman Catholic Church and the Pontifical monarchy there was an orthodox Patriarchate on Rome and of the West very similar to the other 4 Patriarchates. The pope was in Ravenna (Rome was in ruins) and was part of the Roman Empire. Constantinople was the capital of the entire Roman empire after Belisarius had reclaimed Rome and Italy, not just the East.
Then things started to change :
756 : Donation of Pepin. In exchange of the destitution of the Frankish king and his own coronation, Pépin le Bref offered the territory of the exarchate (the roman province) of Ravenna to the pope, removing the papacy from the protection of the roman emperor and putting him under his own protection. His successors, the Carolingians will start to pressure the papacy for their own political goals.
800 : Donation of Constantine (Forgery) Pepin's son, Charles is not satisfied with being a king. He asks the pope to crown him Roman Emperor of the West. The legitimate heir being the real Roman emperor in Constantinople a donation letter is forged in which Constantine the Great transfers the title to the pope Sylvester. Charles even takes Constantine's nickname and became Charles the Great, Carlos Magnus in Latin, Charlemagne in old French.
809 : Charlemagne now wants to severe the communion between the Churches of Rome and the orthodox Churches in the East in order to exert total control over it. The instrument of the union is the Nicene Creed. Charlemagne sends a delegation to ask pope Leo III to add the filioque to the Roman Creed. Fortunately Smaragdus, Abbot of St. Michael’s in Lorraine wrote down the exchanges during the conference between and Pope Leo III said about the addition of the filioque to the Creed : "but neither by writing nor by singing may it (the filioque) be unlawfully inserted into that (the Creed), which it is forbidden us to touch."
Pope Leo III made his position public by nailing on the doors of his basilica two silver plates with the text of the Creed, without the filioque, ingarved in Greek and Latin with this sentence :
Haec Leo posui amore et cautela Orthodoxae Fidei.
I, Leo, did this for the sake and love of the orthodox faith.
867 Pope Nichiolas 1 adds unilateraly the filoque to the Roman Creed. The Patriarch of Constantinople Photius calls for a synod and condemns the adition of the filioque in the West and excommunicates Pope Nicolas Ist. Photius also blames his own emperor Basil for several political murders. Basil replaces Photius who is detained in a monastery and puts an end to the schism with Rome.
869 A council is held in Rome condemning and anathematizing Photius for bogus reasons (he's accused to pretend that humans have two souls). The council is continued in Constantinople. Photius is present but refuses to talk and he is detained in another monastery.
877 Photius is reelected Patriarch of Constantinople.
880 : The 8th ecumenical council in Constantinople, under the auspices of saint pope Leo VIII rehabilitates Photius and puts an end to the filioque dispute by forbidding any addition or subtraction to and from the Necene Creed.
882 : The Frankish emperor Charles the fat is not having it. Saint pope Leo VIII is assassinated with a war hammer (the Frankish weapon) and replaced one the same day by Marinus. Marinus immediatly adds the filioque to the Roman Creed, erases the name of John VIII from the list of the popes, pretending he was in fact a woman in drag, lynched by an angry mob after giving birth to a baby during a procession. Which also makes the 8th ecumenical council non ecumenical and therefore the filioque dispute is reopened.
884 to 1050 : Chaos in Rome. Franks, Lombards and Italians fight to control saint Peter's chair. The factions hate each other so much that Pope Stephen VI exhumed the corps of his predecessor pope Formose to retroactively declared his papacy null. Between 872 and 965, two dozen popes were appointed, and between 896 and 904 there was a new pope every year. This period is also known as the Pornocarcy : the rule of the Prostitute (reference to the book of Revelation) when Marozia de Turscullum was the concubine and mother of several popes after the fall of the Carolingian dynasty.
1050 Under Leo IX papacy, Humbert of Moyenmoutier, Frederick of Lorraine (later Pope Stephen IX), and Hugh of Remiremont put an end to the attempts of the Franks and Lombards Emperors and kings to appoint the popes by officially establishing a temporal pontifical state on the territories given by Pepin. The Pope acquires the rank of emperor, the cardinals wear the purple of the roman senate and Humbert himself is appointed first Chancellor of the state.
1054 Humbert first official trip to seek the recognition of the newborn pontifical State by the Roman Emperor in Constantinople. Humber also delivers a letter and and excommunication bull to Patriarch Michel of Constantinople,signed by pope Leo IX who's already dead. Humbert had received the news of the pope's death before arriving to Constantinople but delivered then altogether. Historians have since established that many documents allegedly signed by Leo IX where in fact from Humbert's hand. Leo was hostage of the Normans since June 18, 1053. In the letter Humbert accuses Michel to be... a woman in drag! Charlemagne attempt to create a schism between Rome and the rest of the orthodox Church is completed.
1204 The 4th Crusade sacs Constantinople and the Latins ruin the Roman empire, opening the gates of Europe to the Muslims.
1252 Pope Innocent IV promulgated Ad extirpanda, a papal bull authorizing the use of torture by the Inquisition to obtain confessions from accused heretics. Thomas Aquinus sets the penalty for heresy to life imprisonment and execution for the relapse. No more "bless those who curse you" for the Romans.
1302 Pope Boniface VIII declares, proclaims, defines that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.
1830 Panic mode in the Vatican : Those Greeks escape from the ottoman Rule and come back with their orthodoxy and their deposit of the faith in the saint fathers.
1869 Vatican I. The infallible pope infallibility declares a the he is infallible. Let those Greeks talk. Lalalalala. I don't hear you! I am infallible because I said so. lalalala!
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Phew! very thorough - so many egos and mistakes over history, made by both sides - I pray for resolution and reunification.
The most common mis understanding of most all people that the East is Orthodox while West is Catholic. I would like to correct this way of understanding, before Schism the East and West are Orthodox and they both Catholic. Rome is faithful to the Orthodox Faith for first 1000 years. It is very much emphasize in the Nicene Constantinopolitan Creed the original One without "Filio Que Clause". The Body of Christ Cannot be just Catholic and not Orthodox vis a vis. FYI, St Ignatius Bishop of Antioch is the first one coined the word Catholic, take note, he was in captivity when he coined the word to die as martyr in Rome. He was Bishop of Antioch and not a Roman Bishop and those time Rome if a Pagan nation, Christians are minority. The Catholicity of Modern Rome or Western Church is not the Catholicity mentioned by St Ignatius of Antioch.
One Holy And Celtic church,
Im Jeremy Scott McGuire Church Of Christ your question answered yes im the founder
my church began AD 33
its the first and only church of new testament
“Filioque” destroyed the meaning of Trinity that’s why Orthodox has a problem with it! But at the end we all Christians
Arrianismo.
lol ok heretical monophysite.
I am an Independent Fundamental Baptist
@ken kanoza That is very interesting, thank-you for sharing!
I attend a Baptist if, nondenominational church
What is your justification for using Billy Graham as a symbol for Prots? Graham was a baptist which so far as I know has not connection to the persons who came out of the Papist organization. There is this "Trail of Blood" Christianity which came from the early Church, but was not under the pope. You should have put some Lutheran as a symbolic Prot.
I’m Roman Catholic
eastern orthodox
Humans are so silly in what they decide to believe
I'm a nondenominational Christian
Anabaptists were right. Eastern Greek hold up Constantine as a Saint, Catholic and Protestant Augustine. Neither of these two held Ante Nicean Orthodox Christianity.
We are called to love our enemies, not kill them even if under a seemingly righteous cause.. which isn't as a whole.
Anabaptists are only a few centuries old. They have no claim to being the Apostolic Church. Sts. Constantine the Great and Augustine are both canonized although we don't accept all the teachings of Augustine. Not sure why you wouldn't think the legalization of Christianity would be a good thing. If you want to be ruled by godless men instead of Christians then something is wrong with you.
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Orthodox Apostolic east to 1052=1053 officialy 1054 in fact already 1052-1053one Apostolic and Orthodox Catholic church the true Orthodox Churches (miaphisite and nesthorian)separated in 452,484,553 and finaly 649 officaly in 741 with iconoclasm controversy de facto between 452 to 649 the Orthodox Apotolic church and the Catholic church where both one Chalcedonian church until 1052 or sometimes to 1053
Nestorians and Monophysites believe opposite things, so they can't both be "true" Orthodox.
I am Russian Othodox.
First of all we must go to the Bible for the answers on how to identify God's people: starting with Ex.31:13 we learn that the Sabbath (the 7th day of the week) is the SIGN of God's people because it identifies the Creator who blessed the 7th day after making the heavens and the earth. That is the reason given in Ex.20 for the fourth commandment. Any church that does not keep this SIGN is not God's Church. Early Christians were Jews and Gentiles and they kept the 7th-day sabbath, as Christ did. All God's sabbaths and festivals are listed in Lev.23 and include 7 annual HOLYDAYS, Sabbaths, including the land sabbath of the 7th years: Lev.25, in which the Law is read at the Feast of Tabernacles in the solemn 7th year. In 325AD at the Council of Nicea it was Constantine, who hated the Jews, made a worldwide edict for all Christians to keep SUN-day as the day of worship under penalty of death and to force the Trinity doctrine on Christianity (remember Christ is the Firstborn of many Brethren, so the God Family will ultimately have MANY sons and daughters born into it at the First Resurrection at His Coming, not just Christ, the Firstborn of sons and daughters). In the 2nd century, it was the Bishop of Smyrna, Polycarp (a disciple of the Apostle John), that visited the Bishop of Rome pleading with him not to celebrate the pagan Easter in honor of the resurrection but to keep the Passover as commanded in the Law and kept by the 13 Apostles. Ultimately the Asia Minor churches were disfellowshipped by the Roman church for keeping the Sabbath Days and it has been THAT DIVISION ever since that has divided God's Church from the world's churches of pagan doctrines never taught by Christ. From that point, it is easy to see that ever since satan has had his "church" and God and Christ have had their faithful disciples. Start with the sabbath as the identifying SIGN of God's people throughout the last 2,000 years. Long before the schisms of the Roman and Byzantine divisions (the two legs of the image of Daniel 2 of the Roman system) there was a TRUE division in the days of Polycarp and Polycrates of the Asia Minor Churches of God and the European Churches at Rome headed by European bishops. Apostasy from the Truth of God set in EARLY in the first century even when the Apostle Paul spoke of it in his Epistles. In order to gain converts to the Roman churches of the first century, pagan traditions were adopted into the Roman Church and the Churches of Asia Minor were disfellowshipped from Roman Christianity very early on in the days of the Apostles and their disciples. This is documented in history. It is the place to start to decipher the Truth of the matter. The church of Rome that emerged during the 4th Century was hardly recognizable from the Church that Christ established after His resurrection through His Apostles of the first century. The key to decipher this Truth is the recognition of the Sabbath SIGN, a separate covenant God has with Israel, OT and NT: Ex.31:13 to the end of the chapter. Factually, Acts 8 shows the first "pope" to be not Simon Peter, but Simon Magus, who in that chapter sought to be some great person and already had a following in his magic in those days that the Apostle rebuked sternly. The history of Simon Magus is discussed at length in the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica, that has omitted the story with bibliography in subsequent Editions. It is very much worth the time to study exactly WHO Simon Magus was in those days and the effect he had on the early doctrines of the True Church.
Are you a follower of 7th day Adventist by Ellen g white? What church do you go to? Do you even go to church?
Indian Catholic of zero malabar
That is so interesting Sandra! Do you live in a very active christian community?
@@DainetheHistorian Yes.. In India the state Kerala in which I'm residing have a major population of Christians. We have Catholics Orthodox Jacobite... Etc. When it comes to my community it is known as Zero malabar we have plenty of educational institutions hospitals working under Church. Also have cardinal of comclave
Baptist, ,, Rep,,,,,,
United Methodist
It is pronounced "BIZ-ZIN-TEEN", not "BUY-ZUN-TINE".
You need to modify your statement that the Papacy was “under complete control of the Byzantine Emperor”because some Popes resisted this control in doctrinal matters and paid for this independence with their lives.
The emperors were not the head of the Church either. The head of the Church was the Patriarch of Constantinople. The empire hat two heads : one crown for the political power and one crown for the spiritual power. That's why the imperial eagle has two heads, each with one crown and a third one, Jesus' crown above them.
@@srfrg9707Christ is the Head of the Church but I think Constantinople was given an honorary title of first among equals.
I am a member of the only & one Church which has ever existed, the Body of Christ -- not a denomination. You enter this Church by defining Christ correctly & trusting Him as Savior (not Chance-giver). Then by Spirit baptism you are place into the Body of Christ, the Only Church which has ever existed. You may be in some denomination, but the qualifications remain the same. Joining a denomination is irrelevant except to the extent that your denomination may be apostate & deny the gospel.
Are you trying to fly away or do you have to use your hands to describe every single word in the sentence
Well i don’t know the ethnic and cultural heritage of that man, but in Europe and particularly in Italy, it’s a common thing to see people talk with their hands
Arian 🙃
I attend a Beachy Mennonite church
That is so amazing @Romans 10:9! Does your church also go off the name "Beachy Amish Mennonites"?
@@DainetheHistorian They just call themselves Mennonites (more importantly, Christians), but if you get really technical they are Beachy Mennonites. Many of them grew up Amish and have parents who are still Amish and visit. I got to see an Amish funeral. It was all in german. One thing I liked is that they used shovels and actually buried the casket themselves.
The Filioque is heretical
then why did the same saints you venerate affirm it?
Catholic believes “the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son” while Orthodox believes” the Son proceeds from the Father, the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father” as you can see the status of Trinity (1god in 3 persons) is problematic that’s why the Orthodox separated.
Higher Authority iis Orthodox
New ifb
Tnere isn't any Eastern Orthodox Church, as Church is never in the Bible used for any "denomination." There isn't any Methodist Church either nor Roman Catholic Church -- there are denomination using that name, but they are not the Church, the one Body of Christ. You abuse the word Church (ecclesia) using it for denominations. And your 3 group leaves out the Trail of Blood of True Christians who are not papists, not Eastern & not Prots. These are men who trust Christ as Savior but their tradition does not come out of the reformers who left their papal organization
There has never been any schism in the Body of Christ, the ekklesia, as it is a body formed by the Holy Spirit Baptism & is not a human organization.
None
protestant
I'm from Eastern Europe and I also had no idea about what Orthodox Christianity is about. Thankfully, we are not a religious country.
The Bible has no such "holy sees"
protestantism!!
@FireSader Wonderful! Thank-you for your comment :)
Protestantism are heretics and only one sect within protestantism will be saved, the rest preach abominations
@@catholicmartyr1872 which one
There is only one church
Protestant
The Orthodox separate to the Roman Catholic cause they are against the papalcy that the Roman Catholic headed by Pope the apostle of Christ while the Orthodox church had no Pope they headed by the emperor's they had no connection with apostle the Orthodox don't spread Christianity in the East they lost to Islam
Lie
I'm Jewish-Athiest.
Constantine was the 1st problem!