I had to drive a '76 International years ago with that two speed rear. Looks like exactly the same system. I never did figure the thing out. It scared me half to death. I finally told my boss I couldn't drive it. I drove the camper after that, and he drove the horse van. Skyler, I hope you see that there is not much more loving that a man can do for his son (or a woman for her daughter for that matter) than to teach him what he knows and make him skilled in it. Skyler did good. Most young men his age couldn't drive a VW with a clutch anymore. A stick shift is the best theft deterrent around these days. The fact that he can drive a stick with a two speed rear that is that big and heavy is a credit to him and to you. The engine never lugged and never over-revved, he never popped the clutch, he was always in control. Good job, young man. Those old wing windows are great for keeping the heat down, but they are noisy. There is nothing sexier in any car or truck than a pink slip. There is no amount of speed, power, fancy paint or trim that beats the freedom of paid for. You probably couldn't do the work you are doing if you had the pressure of making a truck payment.
I had never driven an automatic till I came to the USA, back in Germany I only had stick shift, but I think you are right, that's a very good theft deterrent.
Yes ma’am, I tend to agree on all counts! And thank you for sharing your memories with me. Skylar may never use any of this particular training, but I’m glad he knows how at least. Thank you for such kind words and also taking time to always watch and comment on our videos. I surely appreciate it. A lot! Thank you! Take care my friend and do come again, anytime!
@@zachodommulelogging Lot of folks might have figured you would never use that particular skill either. That truck is probably as old as you are. But there you are, using it.
Thanks for bringing back memories of the correct procedure, I haven't driven a split in forty years, when the law passed you needed an air break licence to drive these trucks I just refused to play along and stopped driving them, very interesting and informative thank you for sharing.
Yessir you’re most welcome! I remember back when you didn’t even need a CDL at all to drive a truck. Those folks got grandfathered in. Lot of my uncles did. Thx for sharing with me my friend! And thanks for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again! Please.
In my state (IL) you don’t need a CDL to drive one of these as long as you aren’t operating for a commercial purpose. You can slap “expanded antique” plates on one and drive legally for personal use for something like $60 a year. Most farmers have these registered with “farm” plates that are even cheaper because they’re generally only used seasonally. For those with “farm” plates you can drive one with a farm CDL that is far less restrictive than a normal class A. For most commercial purposes these trucks fall into the class C license class for commercial use.
I’m a little behind in the videos but caching up this weekend. Working in my wood shop and watching your videos just makes the weekend complete. Thank you to you Zach and also to Skyler!
Awesome buddy! I’m glad to hear it. And I’m glad you enjoy it! Thank you so much for taking time to watch our videos and also comment. Take care my friend and come again!
What engines did those Fords have? I just picked up a 62 F700 grain truck and it has the 302 Lincoln V8. Body is mint, but brakes are done and engine needs love. I have a 366 tall deck I might try to fit in there if it will slide in.
It's been a long time since I drove a truck with a two speed rear end but it is like riding a mule if you can get on it you will remember that it beats walking even if it is a little rough 😔 God Bless Y'all and I love to see someone that teaches the young how to drive the older trucks my step daughter was able to drive a Three stick in my old mack like it was natural to her then she went to college and she works in a high rise building doing something that I would not do but if she has to she's able to drive a log truck. God Bless Y'all and keep it up and you are a natural tech
Yessir for sure and thx for sharing your memories with me also. I’m sure my boy will never use the skill in his life but I’m glad he knows how to anyway. It’ll make good conversation one day anyway. Maybe! Thank you for the kind words and taking time to watch my friend! Take care and do come again, please
You know that you are doing a good job when you're boy can get the logs to the mill and you can stay with them mules and get the log out to the landing I log my land and saw them up on my homemade band mill just for my self I do sale a few boards but not much and I have a old mule but she's not one to pull much her mother was a quarter horse that was a great roping and cutting horse that was one of the best I have ever owned and my mule is better than her mother when it comes to working cows she is one of them that you just point her on the one that you need to cut out and give her her head and hang on cause she can move more than ether me or the 🐄 but have a great day and keep it real and make it worthwhile for you and yours
@@geneporter4849awesome my friend! Yeah, those quarter type mules are tough and fast! They can be cold shouldered tho when it comes to pulling. Been my experience anyway. Thank you for the kind words my friend! Means a lot to me. Take care
@@DaveBurchamhaha, yessir. One of the first semi’s I drove was an old Mack with a 6 plus 4 two stick. Took a little doings. Never drove a triplex tho. Bet that would be fun lol.
Hiii Thank you for sharing and taking the time. I personally never knew a truck ran like that. Very informative and fun watching you both roll on. I really like the way you explain so well, thank you for always taking the time. In a world that’s moving so fast it’s nice to just slow it down just a bit. I think it’s a great thing👍🏼 God Bless you all, please stay safe🙏🙏Really enjoying your channel
Thank you ma’am! I am so glad you enjoyed the channel… And yes, a slower pace is best sometimes. There is a time to get after it, and there is a time to slow down. I think most people move too fast too often. It is good to hear from you! Thank you for taking the time to watch comment as always. It means a lot. Take care and do come again anytime!
I drove an old chicken litter spreader truck like that when i was Skylar's age but never learned the 2 speed rear end pattern. The old guy was in too big a hurry and told me just ignore the red button and go through the gears normal. It's always been a mystery to me. 50 years later you solved that mystery and made me want a 427 Chevy at the same time. Thank you
Skylar is learning so many life skills from you at a young age. He sure isn't afraid to work. Logging and implement store. Not many young men want to work like that anymore. God bless
Thank you sir, and yessir I’ve saw that myself. I tend to forget how blessed I am with him sometimes. He’s happy doing about whatever. He loves to work! Anyway, thank you for the kind words my friend. And thx for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Hey Brother Enjoy your channel, have a GMC grain hauler the chassis is set up very similar to yours but with a 366, back in the day I used to move a lot of equipment with tag a long trailers and little dumps in the hills you used all the gears it was nice to be able to split them , your video brought back some fond memories, God Bless
That’s great! Thank you!! I’m glad you enjoyed the video and brought back some memories..thanks for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please.
Yessir you’re welcome and I’m glad you enjoyed it. Yessir, thx TH-cam thought so too my friend. Thank you so much for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
I worked for this big farm when I turned 16, (1969) I had just gotten my license but always drove, but not a car or truck on the road, just short trips, we were hulling hay from about 10 miles from the farm, so we had all the wagons & trucks loaded and one of them looked around and was wondering who was going to take a truck like yours, and they decided I was going to take it, so a quick lesson, and I'm in, well they told me to back up because they were going to hook a wagon on behind, they said you'll be ok, just cross all the way over to the other side of the road when you make the sharp left hand turn at the end of the bridge, see you later!🤣! did make it ok, could hardly see out the windshield, or reach the peddles, as i was only 5' 3 and 90 lbs! don't forget to double clutch!
🤣🤣🤣 that’s awesome! Sounds like some of my raising. Pa always just thought we could do whatever he could lol. He sent us “on our way” several times lol. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment as always! Take care my friend and do come again, please
Hello Zach You guys look great out there Thank you for this driving lesson It was highly useful Ill be saying a prayer for all of you there Take care my friend
Thank you so much my friend! And thank you for taking time to watch and comment. I surely appreciate it and the prayers also!! Thank you. Take care and do come again, anytime!
That was a very interesting video as usual and very entertaining as well! I like that Chevy truck! You take good care of it too! Have a blessed day today and God bless you and your family always!
Thank you sir! I surely appreciate it. I do try to take care of it. After all, it’s the only means I have of getting my logs to the mill. Right now anyway. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment as always! I appreciate you my friend. Take care and do come again, please
Yes ma’am, you’re right. And thank you kindly. Thank you also for taking time to watch and comment. I really appreciate it. Take care and do come again, please!
This was informative, I never knew how a two speed rear-end worked. I had heard of them, but never tried driving one. When I learned to drive semi, my first trainer made you double clutch. My second trainer said when I got in his truck; "You use the clutch to stop, start and back up." I don't even remember how to double clutch anymore. With my ten speed, I started in second if I was fairly heavy, third if I was empty or not very heavy. That was most of my loads.
Yessir. When I took my CDL test, I had to double clutch then. I haven’t much at all since then. Every now and then I’ll double clutch if I am loaded heavy and starting out going up a steep grade from a dead stop just to keep from missing a gear. But yes, on non-synchronized transmissions trucks..I float gears. Now on Red here, we have to clutch it. My fav all time transmission was in a freight liner FLD. It had a 60 series Detroit with a 13 speed road ranger. I really like that truck a lot. Anyway, thank you for sharing your memories with me. And thank you for taking time to watch and comment. I surely appreciate it. Take care and do come again, please!
Thank you kindly! And yessir those square type front ends is sorta eye pleasing to me too. It’s been a good ole truck to me. Thanks again, for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Thank you again for another great video. I always look forward to your videos. Great positive content that I learn from. Thank you for shining your light for our Lord. May God continue to Bless your family.
That’s about the truth my friend! They do work good. They’re noisy tho…lol. Thanks for the kind words and for taking time to watch and comment. I surely appreciate it. Take care and do come again, please
Great video! Well done and you explained everything in basic easy to understand terminology. I tried driving a flatbed truck we had at a metal company. It was a 20 foot bed with one of them IVECO brand cab on it. Flat-faced truck 😅 I guess they were a division of General Motors because the keys 🔑 had GM on them. Anyway this was in the mid 80's and the boss asked me to take it down to the commercial fueling station and fill it up with diesel. I remember I could upshift the rear-end while it was in gear. Like 1-L and 1-H but when I would go to the next gear I think I was pushing the button down when I was in neutral then I would put it in 2-L. However, it made some terrible grinding noises in the rear axel. I didn't do it again and drove the truck like a standard transmission. It was empty. I thought I was going to rip the axel out when it was grinding. I had mechanical knowledge and driven plenty of stick shift pick-up trucks. My thought when switching the rear-end gear was to unload the power on the assembly by putting it in neutral to take the pressure off the gears so they can mesh together. When you let off the gas that takes the pressure off the gears and allows it to slide into the other gear. I definitely learned something from you! 👍 That's great that you teach your son to drive at a young age. My dad would let me drive his old 71 Datsun pickup. 4-speed manual. When we would go motorcycle riding out in the backcountry. I think I was 12. Skylar drives good ! 👍 😅 😂 Thanks again for the great video 👍
These old two speeds can be temperamental until you learn them. Then they’re plum easy. And very versatile in the way you can shift them and use the gears to your advantage. You mentioned the shift boxes on the rear end. Most GM trucks were either vacuum shift in the older c60’s and 70’s. But the better ones were electric shift like mine. They would shift smoother and also more dependable. I’m not familiar with the air shift. And this axle is an Eaton 2 speed which was probably the most prominent axle to go in these medium duty trucks of that era. Lot of international trucks used the exact same one too. Anyway, good to talk to you and thanks again for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Awesome! That is great to hear… Congratulations on the Colts… Thank you for the kind words and also for taking time to watch and comment. Take care, my friend, and do come again!
The breed is called HAFLINGER,( no 'l' before the f) named after a village in South Tyrol, formerly Austria, now Italy. They are great horses, had a few myself.
Zach great video buddy I'm really glad you did not get a video on your truck cuz I have the truck driver myself and I really did enjoy the way you explained it to him you tell that young man he drove that truck like a champ well I ain't going to keep you you know I'll be getting a hold of you just want to say I enjoyed the video be safe out there in woods and take care and God bless you friend I'm always thinking about you brother and your friend Billy
Thank you, Mr. Dale! Thank you for taking time to watch and comment as always. I appreciate your dedication to my channel. Take care my friend and do come again, please
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I learned from my uncle how to drive a 2speed. He used a 2 speed pulling his dozer’s around. My sister n law wanted to learn to drive a standard, I was not sure my ole truck would survive the experience. lol
Haha, that’s funny. I’ve been there before 🤣. Thank you for the kind words my friend and thanks for taking time to watch and comment. Take care my friend and do come again, please!
I once had a 1980 Ford L800 tandem 429 gas with a Spicer 5 spd main and 4 spd auxiliary. It was similar theory except two sticks to think about. There was 20 forward gears to use, but 4 of them were overlaps, first gear in the aux was the same as 4the in the next lower gear, so I never used 1st in the aux unless I was pulling out of a field or some odd situation or climbing a sharp grade loaded. It didn't quite have the berries to allow driving empty like a regular 5 spd pickup, but you could just use 3rd and 4th in the aux and skip 2, or use 2nd and 3rd and skip 4th. It had a governor, so the rpms were not unlimited, you couldn't really rev high to make a big shift jump. Bit of an art to hauling a big load in hill country with 2 sticks. 4 gear was the workhorse gear on the road and shift up or down with the aux, a long easy downgrade shift to 5th main and let it drift along and save gas then level out or slight upgrade and right back into 4th main 4th aux throttle on. I don't really miss it. Kids today will never know...
Yessir that’s the way…I drove an old tandem C60 with the same transmission for a little bit. Shifted exactly the same as you said. There is a trick to getting it right for sure. I am glad to have driven those old trucks. It makes driving the newer trucks a breeze. Especially with all the horsepower and Jake brakes of today. It makes hauling big loads easy. Those old trucks were pretty simple tho and that’s worth something. Anyway, thx for taking time to watch and comment. I appreciate it. Take care and do come again, please
I’m so glad you enjoyed it! That makes it worth doing. Thank you for the kind words, and also for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again.
TH-cam is pretty cool isn’t it? I guess a fella could learn about anything he wanted too. I know I’ve learned a lot from others on TH-cam. Thank you sir for the kind words and also for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Yessir exactly! I think hardest part is keeping it in your head of “where you are” and “where your headed next” with the gear shifter lol. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment my friend! Take care and do come again, please!
I agree with the man’s comment the best theft deterrent is a stick shift kids today look at you like you’ve got three eyes when you ask them if they can drive a stick
😅😂😅 Three eyes! Yep! A while back I saw a short clip video someone posted. It was a camera view from someone's porch camera looking out into the street. It shows a guy stopping at the stop sign and this thug kid goes up the driver's door with a gun pointing at the driver. He's demanding the driver to get out of the car. The driver gets out, the thug gets in and you see the car roll forward a few feet. After about a minute, you see the thug get out running 🏃♂️ down the street. He didn't know how to drive a stick shift! 😂 👍
Most of those 5x2 trucks had short 4th or soft 4th transmissions, either Clark or Eaton transmissions. You always shifted from 4L to 5L back to 4H and then 5H. I remember gas trucks with 6.50/8.87 rear end ratios and the diesel versions were 4.43/5.37 or so. That’s because the gas V8s redlined at 3,600 rpm while the diesels like the Cat 3208, IH DT466, Drtroit 8.2L and the Detroit 6v53 redlined at 2,600 rpm.
Yessir you’re right. Thanks for contributing and sharing information. I appreciate it! Thx for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Thank you sir! Been doing it most of my life. It just takes a little practice. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment!! Take care and do come again, please
That 427 engine is considered an industrial engine and they are built tough, and as you mentioned it's a low-rpm, high-torque engine. They use them in heavy-duty tow trucks and dump trucks, maybe some school buses. Ford had a 461 industrial engine back in the era of your Chevy. For the people who opted for a gas engine instead of going diesel. I was surprised that your rear-end axle uses the electric motor setup. Usually when a truck has air available which yours does for the brakes, they use an air actuator cylinder like a small hydraulic ram, but powered by air to shift the gears in the rear-end axle. As far as those engines go, and comparing them to the regular truck big block design, the industrial engine is a whole different animal. Just like the diesel engines available for Chevy pick-up trucks are the Duramax diesels. The real diesels that are a division of GM are the Detroit Diesels also their industrial engine. When you look at a Detroit Diesel you see a big hunk of iron. Like they should be made. The Duramax is a lighter-weight engine for a lighter truck. I have a 496 Chevy Silverado 3500 8.1L dually and it's a factory production engine that is a 454 with a longer stroke. They only put these engines in trucks and suburbans, motorhome chassis and they have marine versions of the 496. They never offered them in the muscle car options because the engine weighs 761 lbs with its iron block and cylinder heads. The sad thing is, the GM 496 big block was the last of the big block engines to be produced. I think 2011. Everything will be electric as soon as they work out the battery problems. I guess. I have an older school bus 1997 it has a Detroit Diesel with an Allison 5 speed but I think it is considered a 4 speed because 1st gear is granny low. Usually take off in 2nd gear. It doesn't have a two-speed rear-end. I know when you take off using 1st gear you're shifting into 2nd before getting across an intersection! LOL 😅 The diesel engine is a low-speed diesel. The tachometer goes to 3500 RPM. On the engine valve cover it says max rpm 3250. It😢 makes its power at low rpm also.
Yes, you’re a 100% right on the differences in the engines. It’s comparable to say like a regular 5.9 Cummins vs a L10 Cummins. There’s a regular pickup engine and then there’s the industrial version. The 366 and 427 tall deck is that example exactly. It’s been a good ole truck, but I’m honestly ready for a nice tandem axle with diesel. So I can haul two bunks of cut up logs. Get 1.5-2 times more wood on the same mileage with more power and comfort trucking. Time is valuable in my operation, so it’s getting more and more important to cut time where I can. Anyway, thank you for taking time to watch and comment. I surely appreciate it. Take care my friend and do come again, please
Admire the mule logging. Considering an old 1986 GMC 7000, in the case it has engine troubles I have an International school bus with a 466 in it and the auto trans, wondering how the 2 speed rear would function with the automatic if I was to do a conversion? He did a nice job driving.
Well, these old gas trucks were really low geared so they could pull a load. Like really low! Most of your diesels are gonna turn at a slower working RPM than the said gas truck will. So I think your biggest problem isn’t gonna be the actual two speed, but more of a highway speed dilemma. The diesel isn’t gonna turn up fast enough to get you a descent highway speed with the gas truck type rear end ratios. Now, I know several older international dump trucks that had two speed rears with diesel engines. So, the two speed will work with it. Biggest thing, is just gonna be getting the gearing right. Like my truck, it’s a 6:50 gear on the high side and 7:17 gear on the low. You’re splitting every gear in the transmission basically. The engine and transmission doesn’t know that’s what happening. So, yeah it would work. I just don’t think the diesel would get you highway speeds with that same rear end. You would need a little higher geared rearend..something like a 4:40 or 5:50 rear end ratio. Does that make sense? Otherwise bolting it in shouldn’t be to awful hard. Doing some fab work. Probably have to custom make a drive shaft to work. But anyway, thank you for the kind words and also taking time to watch and comment. I appreciate it. Take care and good luck with your project.
@@zachodommulelogging This truck is intended to be used fully on farm dirt roads, top speeds shouldn't be an issue. Could be a bonus to have it geared down Still thinking about it all. I don't look forward to buying gas for it, albeit a lower price per gallon. Again, thanks for the input. good stuff.
Me and the boss man were the only two on the whole damn crew that had driver's license lol and the only two that could actually drive it because the steering was sloppy and it had a broke power steering pump mount or broke motor mount because when you turned sharp to I believe it was the left it would rev up a high RPM and if you wasn't in a low enough gear or turned into fast you might all over some s***😅
It is not too bad once you understand the principle of it. You just have to keep it in your head of where you are and also where you are wanting to go with the shifter. After that, it is pretty easy. Thank you again for taking time to watch and comment. It really helps our videos a lot.
Thank you sir. No, in a synchronized transmission such as this..double clutching isn’t necessary. On a non-synchronized transmission such as most semi’s and heavy trucks…you double clutch or “float” the gears. Hope this answers your question and thanks for taking time to watch and comment my friend. Take care and do come again!
My father had a few old Internationals with 2 speed rear ends and V8 Gas engines he always reckoned it was better to measure fuel consumption by the gallons used per mile then the usual miles to the gallon. LOL
I've hauled a lot of steel in and out of Tennessee plants and yards Tennessee is very hilly I had a 10.2 tall deck 632 CID with 2 stages of nitrous in a 1982 camaro but it was a track car.
Cool 😎 this old truck has the 427 tall deck truck engine. It’s made for low rpm torque. You won’t get many revs out of it. It basically lugs everywhere it goes lol. It loves gas. But it gets logs to the mill and will get me by until I can do better. One day, I will have a nicer tandem axle diesel truck. I pray anyway…thanks for the question Mr Ray and also taking time to watch and comment. I appreciate it. Take care my friend and do come again, please
Yeah, you can do that on a non-synchronized transmission such as what comes in most larger diesel trucks and semi’s. Most medium duty trucks has synchronized transmissions tho. So floating doesn’t work to well in them. Thanks for the question and also taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
@@6speedguy845that’s right and so does most medium duty trucks. Heavy trucks will have non-syn with a clutch brake. You’ll either double clutch or float
You measure the log on the smallest end, and however big it is diameter wise and how long it is…you can use a chart to figure board footage in a log. I have a scale stick that measures board footage. And I tally it that way. I measure the logs and write the footage on the end I measure. Then you can see about how much you’ve got on the truck. After you’ve done it a while, you can look at a load and make a good guess at how much is on it.
Well, to be honest…they’re really not. You do have to practice a little to be smooth at it. But they’re not all that hard to drive. They’re simple to maintain thank goodness. It’s been a good ole truck to me so far. Anyway, thank you sir for taking time to watch and comment. Take care my friend and do come again when ya can. Thx
On the electrical part on the rear end , if it malfunction what precautions do you take to repair it or check things out , good luck , stay safe , have fun !
@@robertmarino2158well, they usually don’t cause many probs. But when they do, they’re not hard to fix. Usually it’s just a bad switch. And it simply won’t shift from low to high or visa versa. The electric motor shifter was a big upgrade to the old vacuum ones the older trucks. These trucks are pretty simple to maintain. For the most part…
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I had to drive a '76 International years ago with that two speed rear. Looks like exactly the same system. I never did figure the thing out. It scared me half to death. I finally told my boss I couldn't drive it. I drove the camper after that, and he drove the horse van. Skyler, I hope you see that there is not much more loving that a man can do for his son (or a woman for her daughter for that matter) than to teach him what he knows and make him skilled in it. Skyler did good. Most young men his age couldn't drive a VW with a clutch anymore. A stick shift is the best theft deterrent around these days. The fact that he can drive a stick with a two speed rear that is that big and heavy is a credit to him and to you. The engine never lugged and never over-revved, he never popped the clutch, he was always in control. Good job, young man. Those old wing windows are great for keeping the heat down, but they are noisy. There is nothing sexier in any car or truck than a pink slip. There is no amount of speed, power, fancy paint or trim that beats the freedom of paid for. You probably couldn't do the work you are doing if you had the pressure of making a truck payment.
I had never driven an automatic till I came to the USA, back in Germany I only had stick shift, but I think you are right, that's a very good theft deterrent.
Yes ma’am, I tend to agree on all counts! And thank you for sharing your memories with me. Skylar may never use any of this particular training, but I’m glad he knows how at least. Thank you for such kind words and also taking time to always watch and comment on our videos. I surely appreciate it. A lot! Thank you! Take care my friend and do come again, anytime!
@@zachodommulelogging Lot of folks might have figured you would never use that particular skill either. That truck is probably as old as you are. But there you are, using it.
@@thirzapeevey2395you’re right!
That’s a beautiful response
Thx for the demo. I love old big gasser trucks
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Thanks for bringing back memories of the correct procedure, I haven't driven a split in forty years, when the law passed you needed an air break licence to drive these trucks I just refused to play along and stopped driving them, very interesting and informative thank you for sharing.
Yessir you’re most welcome! I remember back when you didn’t even need a CDL at all to drive a truck. Those folks got grandfathered in. Lot of my uncles did. Thx for sharing with me my friend! And thanks for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again! Please.
In my state (IL) you don’t need a CDL to drive one of these as long as you aren’t operating for a commercial purpose. You can slap “expanded antique” plates on one and drive legally for personal use for something like $60 a year. Most farmers have these registered with “farm” plates that are even cheaper because they’re generally only used seasonally. For those with “farm” plates you can drive one with a farm CDL that is far less restrictive than a normal class A. For most commercial purposes these trucks fall into the class C license class for commercial use.
Thanks for the video! It's been informative and has given me the confidence to learn .
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I’m a little behind in the videos but caching up this weekend. Working in my wood shop and watching your videos just makes the weekend complete. Thank you to you Zach and also to Skyler!
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I learned more in the first 10 min than kids will learn all summer in drivers' ed.
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I started out with the 1964 and 1965 Ford F -700 and 750’s hauling Asphalt and base rock . Same exact thing You are teaching it the right way.
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What engines did those Fords have? I just picked up a 62 F700 grain truck and it has the 302 Lincoln V8. Body is mint, but brakes are done and engine needs love. I have a 366 tall deck I might try to fit in there if it will slide in.
It's been a long time since I drove a truck with a two speed rear end but it is like riding a mule if you can get on it you will remember that it beats walking even if it is a little rough 😔 God Bless Y'all and I love to see someone that teaches the young how to drive the older trucks my step daughter was able to drive a Three stick in my old mack like it was natural to her then she went to college and she works in a high rise building doing something that I would not do but if she has to she's able to drive a log truck. God Bless Y'all and keep it up and you are a natural tech
Yessir for sure and thx for sharing your memories with me also. I’m sure my boy will never use the skill in his life but I’m glad he knows how to anyway. It’ll make good conversation one day anyway. Maybe! Thank you for the kind words and taking time to watch my friend! Take care and do come again, please
You know that you are doing a good job when you're boy can get the logs to the mill and you can stay with them mules and get the log out to the landing I log my land and saw them up on my homemade band mill just for my self I do sale a few boards but not much and I have a old mule but she's not one to pull much her mother was a quarter horse that was a great roping and cutting horse that was one of the best I have ever owned and my mule is better than her mother when it comes to working cows she is one of them that you just point her on the one that you need to cut out and give her her head and hang on cause she can move more than ether me or the 🐄 but have a great day and keep it real and make it worthwhile for you and yours
@@geneporter4849awesome my friend! Yeah, those quarter type mules are tough and fast! They can be cold shouldered tho when it comes to pulling. Been my experience anyway. Thank you for the kind words my friend! Means a lot to me. Take care
You must talking about a tri plex,
drove one for several years, if you
missed a gear you just as well pull
over and start over. LOL
@@DaveBurchamhaha, yessir. One of the first semi’s I drove was an old Mack with a 6 plus 4 two stick. Took a little doings. Never drove a triplex tho. Bet that would be fun lol.
Hiii
Thank you for sharing and taking the time. I personally never knew a truck ran like that. Very informative and fun watching you both roll on. I really like the way you explain so well, thank you for always taking the time. In a world that’s moving so fast it’s nice to just slow it down just a bit. I think it’s a great thing👍🏼
God Bless you all, please stay safe🙏🙏Really enjoying your channel
Thank you ma’am! I am so glad you enjoyed the channel… And yes, a slower pace is best sometimes. There is a time to get after it, and there is a time to slow down. I think most people move too fast too often. It is good to hear from you! Thank you for taking the time to watch comment as always. It means a lot. Take care and do come again anytime!
I drove an old chicken litter spreader truck like that when i was Skylar's age but never learned the 2 speed rear end pattern. The old guy was in too big a hurry and told me just ignore the red button and go through the gears normal. It's always been a mystery to me. 50 years later you solved that mystery and made me want a 427 Chevy at the same time. Thank you
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Skylar is learning so many life skills from you at a young age. He sure isn't afraid to work. Logging and implement store. Not many young men want to work like that anymore. God bless
Thank you sir, and yessir I’ve saw that myself. I tend to forget how blessed I am with him sometimes. He’s happy doing about whatever. He loves to work! Anyway, thank you for the kind words my friend. And thx for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Hey Brother Enjoy your channel, have a GMC grain hauler the chassis is set up very similar to yours but with a 366, back in the day I used to move a lot of equipment with tag a long trailers and little dumps in the hills you used all the gears it was nice to be able to split them , your video brought back some fond memories, God Bless
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Thanks Zach, no disappointments here. I did not drive mules or trucks but I enjoy your viedeos. I'm glad u-tube finally thought I might like you too.
Yessir you’re welcome and I’m glad you enjoyed it. Yessir, thx TH-cam thought so too my friend. Thank you so much for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Good video Zach, take care, be looking for your next one.
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I worked for this big farm when I turned 16, (1969) I had just gotten my license but always drove, but not a car or truck on the road, just short trips, we were hulling hay from about 10 miles from the farm, so we had all the wagons & trucks loaded and one of them looked around and was wondering who was going to take a truck like yours, and they decided I was going to take it, so a quick lesson, and I'm in, well they told me to back up because they were going to hook a wagon on behind, they said you'll be ok, just cross all the way over to the other side of the road when you make the sharp left hand turn at the end of the bridge, see you later!🤣! did make it ok, could hardly see out the windshield, or reach the peddles, as i was only 5' 3 and 90 lbs! don't forget to double clutch!
🤣🤣🤣 that’s awesome! Sounds like some of my raising. Pa always just thought we could do whatever he could lol. He sent us “on our way” several times lol. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment as always! Take care my friend and do come again, please
Hello Zach
You guys look great out there
Thank you for this driving lesson
It was highly useful
Ill be saying a prayer for all of you there
Take care my friend
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That was a very interesting video as usual and very entertaining as well! I like that Chevy truck! You take good care of it too! Have a blessed day today and God bless you and your family always!
Thank you sir! I surely appreciate it. I do try to take care of it. After all, it’s the only means I have of getting my logs to the mill. Right now anyway. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment as always! I appreciate you my friend. Take care and do come again, please
Love your directions and verses you put in when I learned stick I had a person tell me you gotta listen to your engine
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This was informative, I never knew how a two speed rear-end worked. I had heard of them, but never tried driving one. When I learned to drive semi, my first trainer made you double clutch. My second trainer said when I got in his truck; "You use the clutch to stop, start and back up." I don't even remember how to double clutch anymore. With my ten speed, I started in second if I was fairly heavy, third if I was empty or not very heavy. That was most of my loads.
Yessir. When I took my CDL test, I had to double clutch then. I haven’t much at all since then. Every now and then I’ll double clutch if I am loaded heavy and starting out going up a steep grade from a dead stop just to keep from missing a gear. But yes, on non-synchronized transmissions trucks..I float gears. Now on Red here, we have to clutch it. My fav all time transmission was in a freight liner FLD. It had a 60 series Detroit with a 13 speed road ranger. I really like that truck a lot. Anyway, thank you for sharing your memories with me. And thank you for taking time to watch and comment. I surely appreciate it. Take care and do come again, please!
Nice ol truck. Always liked those Chevy front ends.
Thank you kindly! And yessir those square type front ends is sorta eye pleasing to me too. It’s been a good ole truck to me. Thanks again, for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Thank you again for another great video. I always look forward to your videos. Great positive content that I learn from. Thank you for shining your light for our Lord. May God continue to Bless your family.
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Great Video brothers! I learned alot. Definitely want to see driving while loaded. Love the bible verse! God bless!
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AC? It's got wing windows! That's just about as good 😂 looking forward to seeing you on the rural heritage episode 😉
That’s about the truth my friend! They do work good. They’re noisy tho…lol. Thanks for the kind words and for taking time to watch and comment. I surely appreciate it. Take care and do come again, please
Great video! Well done and you explained everything in basic easy to understand terminology. I tried driving a flatbed truck we had at a metal company. It was a 20 foot bed with one of them IVECO brand cab on it. Flat-faced truck 😅 I guess they were a division of General Motors because the keys 🔑 had GM on them. Anyway this was in the mid 80's and the boss asked me to take it down to the commercial fueling station and fill it up with diesel. I remember I could upshift the rear-end while it was in gear. Like 1-L and 1-H but when I would go to the next gear I think I was pushing the button down when I was in neutral then I would put it in 2-L. However, it made some terrible grinding noises in the rear axel. I didn't do it again and drove the truck like a standard transmission. It was empty. I thought I was going to rip the axel out when it was grinding. I had mechanical knowledge and driven plenty of stick shift pick-up trucks. My thought when switching the rear-end gear was to unload the power on the assembly by putting it in neutral to take the pressure off the gears so they can mesh together. When you let off the gas that takes the pressure off the gears and allows it to slide into the other gear. I definitely learned something from you! 👍 That's great that you teach your son to drive at a young age. My dad would let me drive his old 71 Datsun pickup. 4-speed manual. When we would go motorcycle riding out in the backcountry. I think I was 12. Skylar drives good ! 👍 😅 😂 Thanks again for the great video 👍
These old two speeds can be temperamental until you learn them. Then they’re plum easy. And very versatile in the way you can shift them and use the gears to your advantage. You mentioned the shift boxes on the rear end. Most GM trucks were either vacuum shift in the older c60’s and 70’s. But the better ones were electric shift like mine. They would shift smoother and also more dependable. I’m not familiar with the air shift. And this axle is an Eaton 2 speed which was probably the most prominent axle to go in these medium duty trucks of that era. Lot of international trucks used the exact same one too. Anyway, good to talk to you and thanks again for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Good morning! God is great! Have a great and safe week. Had two halfling colt in May. Your brother in Christ Hershel.
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The breed is called HAFLINGER,( no 'l' before the f) named after a village in South Tyrol, formerly Austria, now Italy. They are great horses, had a few myself.
@@klauskarbaumer6302I’ve broke a few of them for folks and thought they were nice little draft horses.
I learned in 1955 when I was 9, in my dad's 49 Chevy 2 ton dumptruck .
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Zach great video buddy I'm really glad you did not get a video on your truck cuz I have the truck driver myself and I really did enjoy the way you explained it to him you tell that young man he drove that truck like a champ well I ain't going to keep you you know I'll be getting a hold of you just want to say I enjoyed the video be safe out there in woods and take care and God bless you friend I'm always thinking about you brother and your friend Billy
Yessir buddy! Glad to do it and thanks for watching and commenting as usual. Thank you and do come again, anytime
God bless you. Please be safe out there logging.
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Good job fellas!
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I love them old Chevy 2 tons.
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Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I learned from my uncle how to drive a 2speed. He used a 2 speed pulling his dozer’s around. My sister n law wanted to learn to drive a standard, I was not sure my ole truck would survive the experience. lol
Haha, that’s funny. I’ve been there before 🤣. Thank you for the kind words my friend and thanks for taking time to watch and comment. Take care my friend and do come again, please!
I once had a 1980 Ford L800 tandem 429 gas with a Spicer 5 spd main and 4 spd auxiliary. It was similar theory except two sticks to think about. There was 20 forward gears to use, but 4 of them were overlaps, first gear in the aux was the same as 4the in the next lower gear, so I never used 1st in the aux unless I was pulling out of a field or some odd situation or climbing a sharp grade loaded. It didn't quite have the berries to allow driving empty like a regular 5 spd pickup, but you could just use 3rd and 4th in the aux and skip 2, or use 2nd and 3rd and skip 4th. It had a governor, so the rpms were not unlimited, you couldn't really rev high to make a big shift jump. Bit of an art to hauling a big load in hill country with 2 sticks. 4 gear was the workhorse gear on the road and shift up or down with the aux, a long easy downgrade shift to 5th main and let it drift along and save gas then level out or slight upgrade and right back into 4th main 4th aux throttle on. I don't really miss it. Kids today will never know...
Yessir that’s the way…I drove an old tandem C60 with the same transmission for a little bit. Shifted exactly the same as you said. There is a trick to getting it right for sure. I am glad to have driven those old trucks. It makes driving the newer trucks a breeze. Especially with all the horsepower and Jake brakes of today. It makes hauling big loads easy. Those old trucks were pretty simple tho and that’s worth something. Anyway, thx for taking time to watch and comment. I appreciate it. Take care and do come again, please
I loved this!!! Thank you 🙏
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Been close to 40 years since i sold my 67 chevy C60. Sure wish i had you tube and you to teach me before i sold it.
TH-cam is pretty cool isn’t it? I guess a fella could learn about anything he wanted too. I know I’ve learned a lot from others on TH-cam. Thank you sir for the kind words and also for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Skylar does a great job
Ty ma’am! He’s a good boy..
Drove a truck many times with a 2 speed rear end,
simple once you learn how to use it . 🤗
Yessir exactly! I think hardest part is keeping it in your head of “where you are” and “where your headed next” with the gear shifter lol. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment my friend! Take care and do come again, please!
I agree with the man’s comment the best theft deterrent is a stick shift kids today look at you like you’ve got three eyes when you ask them if they can drive a stick
Haha, yes ma’am! Sadly, I’d say you’re right. Skylar’s little truck is a 5 speed Isuzu. And he loves it.
😅😂😅 Three eyes! Yep! A while back I saw a short clip video someone posted. It was a camera view from someone's porch camera looking out into the street. It shows a guy stopping at the stop sign and this thug kid goes up the driver's door with a gun pointing at the driver. He's demanding the driver to get out of the car. The driver gets out, the thug gets in and you see the car roll forward a few feet. After about a minute, you see the thug get out running 🏃♂️ down the street. He didn't know how to drive a stick shift! 😂 👍
Most of those 5x2 trucks had short 4th or soft 4th transmissions, either Clark or Eaton transmissions. You always shifted from 4L to 5L back to 4H and then 5H. I remember gas trucks with 6.50/8.87 rear end ratios and the diesel versions were 4.43/5.37 or so. That’s because the gas V8s redlined at 3,600 rpm while the diesels like the Cat 3208, IH DT466, Drtroit 8.2L and the Detroit 6v53 redlined at 2,600 rpm.
Yessir you’re right. Thanks for contributing and sharing information. I appreciate it! Thx for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
You make splitting gears look easy
Thank you sir! Been doing it most of my life. It just takes a little practice. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment!! Take care and do come again, please
That 427 engine is considered an industrial engine and they are built tough, and as you mentioned it's a low-rpm, high-torque engine. They use them in heavy-duty tow trucks and dump trucks, maybe some school buses. Ford had a 461 industrial engine back in the era of your Chevy. For the people who opted for a gas engine instead of going diesel. I was surprised that your rear-end axle uses the electric motor setup. Usually when a truck has air available which yours does for the brakes, they use an air actuator cylinder like a small hydraulic ram, but powered by air to shift the gears in the rear-end axle. As far as those engines go, and comparing them to the regular truck big block design, the industrial engine is a whole different animal. Just like the diesel engines available for Chevy pick-up trucks are the Duramax diesels. The real diesels that are a division of GM are the Detroit Diesels also their industrial engine. When you look at a Detroit Diesel you see a big hunk of iron. Like they should be made. The Duramax is a lighter-weight engine for a lighter truck. I have a 496 Chevy Silverado 3500 8.1L dually and it's a factory production engine that is a 454 with a longer stroke. They only put these engines in trucks and suburbans, motorhome chassis and they have marine versions of the 496. They never offered them in the muscle car options because the engine weighs 761 lbs with its iron block and cylinder heads. The sad thing is, the GM 496 big block was the last of the big block engines to be produced. I think 2011. Everything will be electric as soon as they work out the battery problems. I guess. I have an older school bus 1997 it has a Detroit Diesel with an Allison 5 speed but I think it is considered a 4 speed because 1st gear is granny low. Usually take off in 2nd gear. It doesn't have a two-speed rear-end. I know when you take off using 1st gear you're shifting into 2nd before getting across an intersection! LOL 😅 The diesel engine is a low-speed diesel. The tachometer goes to 3500 RPM. On the engine valve cover it says max rpm 3250. It😢 makes its power at low rpm also.
Yes, you’re a 100% right on the differences in the engines. It’s comparable to say like a regular 5.9 Cummins vs a L10 Cummins. There’s a regular pickup engine and then there’s the industrial version. The 366 and 427 tall deck is that example exactly. It’s been a good ole truck, but I’m honestly ready for a nice tandem axle with diesel. So I can haul two bunks of cut up logs. Get 1.5-2 times more wood on the same mileage with more power and comfort trucking. Time is valuable in my operation, so it’s getting more and more important to cut time where I can. Anyway, thank you for taking time to watch and comment. I surely appreciate it. Take care my friend and do come again, please
Admire the mule logging. Considering an old 1986 GMC 7000, in the case it has engine troubles I have an International school bus with a 466 in it and the auto trans, wondering how the 2 speed rear would function with the automatic if I was to do a conversion? He did a nice job driving.
Well, these old gas trucks were really low geared so they could pull a load. Like really low! Most of your diesels are gonna turn at a slower working RPM than the said gas truck will. So I think your biggest problem isn’t gonna be the actual two speed, but more of a highway speed dilemma. The diesel isn’t gonna turn up fast enough to get you a descent highway speed with the gas truck type rear end ratios. Now, I know several older international dump trucks that had two speed rears with diesel engines. So, the two speed will work with it. Biggest thing, is just gonna be getting the gearing right. Like my truck, it’s a 6:50 gear on the high side and 7:17 gear on the low. You’re splitting every gear in the transmission basically. The engine and transmission doesn’t know that’s what happening. So, yeah it would work. I just don’t think the diesel would get you highway speeds with that same rear end. You would need a little higher geared rearend..something like a 4:40 or 5:50 rear end ratio. Does that make sense? Otherwise bolting it in shouldn’t be to awful hard. Doing some fab work. Probably have to custom make a drive shaft to work. But anyway, thank you for the kind words and also taking time to watch and comment. I appreciate it. Take care and good luck with your project.
@@zachodommulelogging Great feed back, I appreciate it. Some stuff to consider.
@@downeastprimitiveskills7688you’re welcome 😊
@@zachodommulelogging This truck is intended to be used fully on farm dirt roads, top speeds shouldn't be an issue. Could be a bonus to have it geared down Still thinking about it all. I don't look forward to buying gas for it, albeit a lower price per gallon. Again, thanks for the input. good stuff.
@@downeastprimitiveskills7688cool 😊yeah that probably be ok. You’re welcome buddy. Take care
I worked with a roofing crew & drove a big Chevy just like that but with a 16 ft dump bed and it was only 4 Speed with high low and a 454
Me and the boss man were the only two on the whole damn crew that had driver's license lol and the only two that could actually drive it because the steering was sloppy and it had a broke power steering pump mount or broke motor mount because when you turned sharp to I believe it was the left it would rev up a high RPM and if you wasn't in a low enough gear or turned into fast you might all over some s***😅
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It must take a good while to learn all those high’s n low’s❤
It is not too bad once you understand the principle of it. You just have to keep it in your head of where you are and also where you are wanting to go with the shifter. After that, it is pretty easy. Thank you again for taking time to watch and comment. It really helps our videos a lot.
Great explanation, do you double or single clutch this truck?
Thank you sir. No, in a synchronized transmission such as this..double clutching isn’t necessary. On a non-synchronized transmission such as most semi’s and heavy trucks…you double clutch or “float” the gears. Hope this answers your question and thanks for taking time to watch and comment my friend. Take care and do come again!
👍good job
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My father had a few old Internationals with 2 speed rear ends and V8 Gas engines he always reckoned it was better to measure fuel consumption by the gallons used per mile then the usual miles to the gallon. LOL
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Work horse chevy letting the RPM build up so it won't be lugging what engine is it 454 a punched out 468 ?
I've hauled a lot of steel in and out of Tennessee plants and yards Tennessee is very hilly I had a 10.2 tall deck 632 CID with 2 stages of nitrous in a 1982 camaro but it was a track car.
Cool 😎 this old truck has the 427 tall deck truck engine. It’s made for low rpm torque. You won’t get many revs out of it. It basically lugs everywhere it goes lol. It loves gas. But it gets logs to the mill and will get me by until I can do better. One day, I will have a nicer tandem axle diesel truck. I pray anyway…thanks for the question Mr Ray and also taking time to watch and comment. I appreciate it. Take care my friend and do come again, please
Me n my brother drove a cow to neighbors bull a few times.
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Have you heard of float shifting a manual transmission?
Yeah, you can do that on a non-synchronized transmission such as what comes in most larger diesel trucks and semi’s. Most medium duty trucks has synchronized transmissions tho. So floating doesn’t work to well in them. Thanks for the question and also taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Manual transmission passenger cars have synchronized transmissions
@@6speedguy845that’s right and so does most medium duty trucks. Heavy trucks will have non-syn with a clutch brake. You’ll either double clutch or float
How do you figure board feet
You measure the log on the smallest end, and however big it is diameter wise and how long it is…you can use a chart to figure board footage in a log. I have a scale stick that measures board footage. And I tally it that way. I measure the logs and write the footage on the end I measure. Then you can see about how much you’ve got on the truck. After you’ve done it a while, you can look at a load and make a good guess at how much is on it.
Thanks for the Bible verse!
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My goodness, I had no idea that these trucks could be so complicated. I bet it takes some practice to drive them
Well, to be honest…they’re really not. You do have to practice a little to be smooth at it. But they’re not all that hard to drive. They’re simple to maintain thank goodness. It’s been a good ole truck to me so far. Anyway, thank you sir for taking time to watch and comment. Take care my friend and do come again when ya can. Thx
On the electrical part on the rear end , if it malfunction what precautions do you take to repair it or check things out , good luck , stay safe , have fun !
@@robertmarino2158well, they usually don’t cause many probs. But when they do, they’re not hard to fix. Usually it’s just a bad switch. And it simply won’t shift from low to high or visa versa. The electric motor shifter was a big upgrade to the old vacuum ones the older trucks. These trucks are pretty simple to maintain. For the most part…
That shift pattern is called a dog leg shift pattern
Ok
I like to have a truck that good
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@@zachodommulelogging don't forget me on them blocks
@@randallcrane2704I won’t my friend. It’ll be towards the end of the week. But I’ll get it for you.
Is Skylar your son
Sky is my stepson. Thanks for the question and thanks for taking time to watch and comment. Take care and do come again, please
Great video love those medium duty trucks.havnt seen mules pull logs in years but lost me with that MAGA hat
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@@zachodommulelogging your welcome 👍🏻. very informative on the shifting of a log truck.