Great assessment. Christian TH-cam much like many communities is a wide spectrum. I’ve been fortunate to be in a great church with a pastor that’s engaged. In the last year We’ve made conscious effort to make “net positive” content. Avoiding dunking on celebrities or celebrity pastors.
Ya, it can be tough to keep a balance. Everyone is doing a good job but it would be good for the next generation of Christian influencers to hear us give some advice on how to manage it.
When the focus of what Christians do is hunting out heresy we are wrong. Most of these you tubers do not focus on teaching and preaching the gospel in my experience . The danger is that many of these people do not check themselves even if our motives are right we can still be very wrong. I have watched people who are very popular and have a large following like Voddie Bochum John McArthur if you question their doctrine people come after you it’s the same with the prosperity preachers. The majority of us who follow these people don’t seem able to rightly divide the word of truth, one of the things I have issue with is when Christians constantly are calling each other out. What is our Christian witness, we forget the unsaved see us. I watched a channel that said “like and subscribe so we can have more followers than Kenneth Copeland”.
Yes! Paul called out names but it was written to the individuals he was writing too. Not the church as a whole. In this case it was Timothy. In acts 20 Paul mentions wolves that would not spare the flock but he called for the elders. Not the whole church. If we take our time when we study verses where someone was being rebuked or names were being called, we will see leaders holding other leaders accountable that they were in covenant with (right hand of fellowship). What social media has created is some unruliness that’s out of order and possibly even going as far as plucking up the good pastors with the bad ones. Even when Paul called out Peter it was to his face in front of the whole church right after they were given the right hand of fellowship. But again, it was a leader (apostle) to another leader (apostle) and it was within the church. Not a public square. We use Ephesians 5 as an expose scripture as well. But again we’re talking local autonomy. When Pricilla and Aquila addressed Apollos. They did NOT rebuke him publicly although he spoke publicly. The scripture says they pulled him to the side. Why? Because they did not know him. Marking those who cause division is not necessarily calling someone out publicly. But more on the lines of taking note and heed to someone and saying to others “lookout for him/her” and name doesn’t always have to be called unless they persist in causing the division. This is what happened when Paul finally addresses Peter. But notice he did not rebuke him initially in Jerusalem but rather Antioch where issue began. Another good example is Paul writing to the Church of Rome (16:17) as well as warning Timothy about Alexander and the harm he had caused. He’s warning to Timothy take note of Alexander in a letter not a public display. “Pastors who sin rebuke before all so the rest may fear” was an instruction to a leader. Timothy being delegated apostolic authority as a leader was given the charge to rebuke not everyone else. A good example is Paul to Peter’s face within the fellowship of Antioch. It was in house not out house “Open rebuke is better than secret love” is more in reference of making an issue known to that person. Not a public expedition. What the internet has created is a lack of discretion that many of us have been guilty of partaking in. So I understand where you’re coming from. Being a former follower of Ex-ministries I’ve studied these passages thoroughly and came to the conclusion that “Houston we have a problem.” On top of that, I’ve been working in management for 23 years now and know first how this thing works. And I didn’t even mention jurisdiction. But anyway, I hope this helps. Blessings..
@@LeveledHeadGamer exactly…this is a mess lol. Mistaking and misspeaking on scripture but then criticizing someone else’s critic…🤦🏾♂️. Fam this ain’t it
@didactic02 We should at least acknowledge them owning it (in the 1st comment posted). I follow a great deal of Christian YT and THAT is LARGELY missing within this particular community...🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@kingdomauxSOOOO LATE to this video, but I follow a great deal of Christian YT and GREATLY respect the taking of accountability for the mistake. I can tell you, as you may already know, THAT is LARGELY missing within this particular community...🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I think one of the biggest issues with what you mentioned in terms of people not attending church physically, is that a lot of people lately turn to Christ alone in their home without a local community and in their zeal, start a TH-cam or TikTok or someone thing that does end up blowing up and they aren’t as foundational as someone who does have community and accountability. It’s that lack of preparation that creates the compromise to remain or grow in popularity
I have recently been put on the Christian TH-cam channels - I've become a member on Ruslan's Patreon - I watch Nick Jones and also Truth IS and you guys here at Trackstarz and I attend church regularly - hoping to find a good time to be incorporated into a small group with the church I've been going to. If there is one key thing I've learned through watching the podcasts or the videos - it is that, there is so much going on in this world that is happening that has pulled me away from my relationship with God. There is so much work on the enemy's end and divisiveness and messaging and symbolism out there that I am only learning now how someone who wants to do right and be hot for God can also be swayed. The videos have helped me be more aware of the content I consume - especially the secular content - the messages the lyrics the movie plots -- the shows -- ALL OF IT. If anything, the videos have helped me pursue God more and want to be set apart from the things of this world. I always enjoy listening to your podcast - your takes and POVS - the insight is enriching!
That is awesome! That is why we all do it. Giving some wisdom to fellow believers while also speaking to those that are on the fence and starting to realize that God is calling them to more. Thanks for checking us out.
Scripture instructs us to identify and mark false teachers with the motivation to warn those who are vulnerable and might become victims as Jude does and instruct them to test the spirit as the Apostle John does and to remain aware of them as the Apostle Paul does. When the motivation is care for the well-being of God's people, more importantly according to the will of God, which is made known by the Spirit of God and the Word of God. This goes to your point that all of us need to be connected to a local church and as I always say, "Everybody needs a pastor, one who is a disciple of the Son of God, filled with the Spirit of God, and steeped in the Word of God."
The problem with Christian TH-cam is its thinly veiled preoccupation with worldliness and finding a middle ground between the church and the world, when the way calls us to be seperate and holy. With all the Christian's in the TH-cam space, the world doesn't seem any safer, and even worse, it doesn't seem any more informed on how to live a life pleasing to God. It seems more confused, with many forever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth.
@@trackstarz I believe it's time for God's people to be God's people and his alone; he's a jealous God. The fact that there are "Christian influencers" means that there are people who were called out of the world that still choose to model their lives and platforms after it. We're supposed to be in the world to plant and water for the harvest, but not of it, lest we defile ourselves with the pleasures thereof. Yet, these influencers spend much of their time discussing the same topics that pop culture channels talk about. Covering those topics from a "Christian perspective" is just another way of entertaining godlessness, witchcraft, debauchery and mammon. Why is it that our people (Christians) want to engage so much with the culture of this world instead of rejecting it completely? That's what holiness is, being separate unto God, and his standard is holiness. There's no middle ground. Many of these influencers have led God's people astray by shepherding them into the world and calling it middle ground. The way to the kingdom is a narrow one, and the road traveled by the so-called influencer is broad. It's sad. Thanks for responding.
Allen Parr has some videos related to this subject. I think his views are solid on most things and he's the only content creator that I've watched that is pretty open about the temptations specifically related to Christian TH-cam.
I’m usually impressed with your content, but it was especially cool hearing you all speak on a topic you seem to have another level of experience in. Thanks again…
Thank you all for this convo! I myself am a creative artist and a preacher (ordained minister) and aside from being a performer and producer, I’ve been wanting to do the Christian TH-cam thing as well but not the format of being an “exposer” or “Christian news blogger” but preaching and teaching and sharing revelation, in practical and creative ways. Although I am a controversial type of person, I’ve felt for a while that the whole “exposing channel”thing is played out.
Great show and a needed discussion for sure! Some channels you mentioned are sarcastic in their delivery. More like you're dumb, I'm smart and you should know A B and C.This is very dangerous. You see the pride building up. We have to stay prayerful for all the christian influencers as we do for our pastors and church leaders. Why? They have a platform and baby believers and nonbelievers are watching. Key takeaways from this episode is heart posture and being led by the Holy Spirit. Pray for discernment too.
It comes down to if you are punching down or not. I once was obsessed with christian youtube and trying to learn the Christian lifestyle. Then it just got too dogmatic. I'm still christian but i got turned off with how nuanced people in nuanced situations were being attack from a morality standpoint. What i appreciate about this channel is that yall arent afraid to examine yourselves publicly. Working out your own salvation with fear and trembling. It shows humility and that yall really tryna please God at the end of the day. I have grace if yall in particular go hard b/c i know yall are really tryna learn from the errors of others and not publicly chastise them knowing they cant defend themselves.
Ruslan built his channel off of calling out Steven Furtick. And Furtick wasn't even doing anything wrong, he just had thousands of haters. I can build a channel right now off of Mike Todd hate, and Chad Veech hate, etc. That is an easy way to get views, and hook people in. I think there is a place for shining a light on error, or trying to instruct the body of Christ in what is right. But it has to come from a pure place, with love! Also it needs to come with accountability. Some people just want to get rich, and some people are Pharisees with a bunch of issues, and wounds they haven't dealt with.
I some time tune-in into Smart Christian (who now is thinking about actually becoming an out right preacher) and Nick Jones and I've asked both since they seem to bash all ministries that I know of and I know plenty, who do they support and suggest... I'M STILL WAITING FOR A RESPONSE!!! 🤦🏾♀️
I’m not entirely sure that looking at an unsaved person and critiquing what they’re doing is not all that effective, I think, focusing on righteousness and teaching righteousness, and pointing people to Christ is the best answer.
This is good things to think about even for Future Christian TH-camrs who may make it big on the platform. Making our message from Christ less about Self-Righteousness and more about The Righteous One
Some of these Christian TH-camrs only focus on criticizing others. I find it very concerning that in a time when there is a push for the world to go cashless and enforce digital Ids, i am only hearing about he said and she said. There is no balance.
Some people go to church and still don’t get opportunities to get help from groups of people. It’s like no real concern at times. You can maybe go for prayer but, there seems to be a lot of disconnect throughout my experience.
I had to unsub from Whatddoyoumeme because he felt like the equivalent of a Christian DramaTube channel rather than being about addressing the culture from a Christian perspective.
Brothers first, your guest doesnt read the Bible, he consufes Jezabel, Acab, and John the Baptiist. Second, Brother Corey from Smart Christians always reads the Bible. Ruslan and THE BEAT by Allen Parr are doing a good job. Follow their sample and open the Bible too, you give opinions, we want The Word not shallow words.
Thank you for doing this. I can't stomach the Christian TH-camrs critics culture. It giving Christianity a bad rep. I'm not for it at all. I don't find any proper biblical foundation to it. Our Lord said they will know us by our love. Nothing loving with the calling out one another. Please don't stop there @trackstarz I believe you can bring a change.
yes. the word says God will judge the world. however we are to put out the evil person from among us. meaning wolves in thechurch. that is why my channel is focused on critiquing the issues and false teachers WITHIN the church. i don't do too much of judging the world which most christian youtube channels do. because that it is not our job to judge them. the church is in enough mess on its own
@@christianforrealjudge righteously 🤦🏽♀️. In Ephesians we are called to expose wolves. We as Christians have to stop ignoring this. However, when all they do is “expose” and call it a ministry….beg to differ.
It isn't a problem at all. Are we called to run at them with pointing fingers, screaming, and yelling that they are damned? No, not in the least. Are we to expose their destructive teachings to those that would hear with proof in the word that opposes what they claim? Yes. We are not to participate in their desteuctive teachings but absolutely we are to call them out when seen. But it should never be our mission or joy to do so. When we come across those that teach wrongly, we reprove with kindness and openness, using the word and not opinion. Ephesians 5:11-13 as just one example. And do not participate in the unfruitful works of darkness, but rsther even expose them, for the things being done in secret is shameful even to speak of, but all things becoming exposed by theblight become visible. And how many times did paul in his letters call out false teaching of those who missed the mark or had twisted scripture? Did he not sleak to an entire church and tell them he was surprised how quickly they turned away from the true gospel? Do not pay heed to those like these people who only seek to argue in endless controversy on teachings they are unaware of. Resd the word in full and dont follow the allures of mans interpretation of the word. It interprets itself. Grace be with you all.
What is the heart, spirit, intentions behind the critique? Man judges on the outward appearance. God judges on the heart. Are you critiquing to ‘grow’ yourself or your platform? That’s a key question to ask.
Judgment can be perceived by those in offense or those offended in sin. 2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. Those in bad doctrine will always scream JUDGEMENT if called out. Use those that reprove and correct to balance your video or aporoach. Yet we all are called in the community to follow ministry Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Great Topic 👍🏾
I have been looking so hard to find a church where I am able to fit in it's not really working I was at a church at a Bible study and I told the pastor something in the Bible study that that the holy Spirit told me and I never have a problem saying that the holy Spirit told me it wasn't like some Epiphany that I had on my own and the pastor said holy Spirit condescending like and like I can't believe she's talking about this imaginary person 💞🔥💞
⏰ The difference between a Pharisee and someone with righteous indignation is , one has just an opinion and the other has FRUIT along with their rationalization. Most Christian TH-camrs don’t even have Bible studies, yet along devotional teachings online, YET heavily criticize others. Where’s the fruit?? Also, intent doesn’t mean you’re not wrong. “There’s a way that SEEMETH right, but the end is destruction” -Prov 14
The holy spirit had to show me that a lot of things i would tell others was for me also but i ignorantly thought it was just for others.i had put myself in the position of delivering and not receiving.
The difference is God telling you and you doing it yourself. Being sent not you went. Allow the Lord to led you. Sit down and wait on God to tell you what to do
John’s Baptism for Remission of Sins John’s baptism symbolized a call to repentance for Israel, restoring fellowship with God (Mark 1:4, Luke 3:3). It did not provide eternal salvation but was a public act of repentance, preparing the people for the Messiah’s coming (Luke 1:16-17). In this context, “remission of sins” referred to restoring Israel’s covenant relationship with God. Jesus’ Blood for Remission of Sins Jesus’ statement about His blood (Matthew 26:28) refers to the complete, eternal remission of sins through His sacrifice. His death on the cross paid the penalty for sin and provided eternal salvation for all who believe (Hebrews 9:22). Jesus’ blood brought full forgiveness, restoring a believer’s eternal relationship with God. Key Differences * John’s Baptism: Focused on Israel’s repentance and fellowship restoration, preparing for the kingdom. * Jesus’ Blood: Provided eternal forgiveness, offering salvation through His sacrificial death. Conclusion John’s baptism restored Israel’s fellowship with God, preparing them for the kingdom. Jesus’ blood provided the permanent solution for sin, offering eternal forgiveness and life. Eternal life is received by faith.
I'm finding myself embroiled in your conversations like I'm sitting and I'm having conversations with you this is how you know whether or not you're being controversial like a Pharisee or whether or not you're calling people out in love is if the Holy Spirit tell you to say it the Lord be telling me to say things to some people and somebody else will be doing the same thing and he won't give me no word to say to them what I have found is that the Lord will chastise those he loves some people he already turned them over like have at it it's nothing to say to them so when you saying stuff to people like Jamal Bryant God then turned him over now you just be trying to look for something to say 💞🔥💞 I'll add one more thing the Lord said Jacob I loved Esau I hated if you notice the lord always corrected Jacob he never said nothing to Esau and Esau was off the hook He let Esau get what Esau got like have at it REPOBATE
The Pharisees like you said their intent was wrong but they were scoffers and another thing about them they was legalistic but they weren't following the laws that they was leaning on other people so they weren't living it 💞🔥💞 like that girl just said the Pharisees was not living nothing they was talking about they knew all 613 laws in and out but they were not living it they were walking around like monitoring spirits seeing who they couldn't point out so that they can prove that they knew the letter of the law 💞🔥💞
I think you all have misunderstood the pharisees. Based on scripture they taught man-made rules and regulations. They also sat by while God's temple became a marketplace. They were upset that Jesus helped people understood the Father's true intentions, including being a Father to Gentiles. I believe the "YT" issue from Christians is more complex. Some call out pastors without understanding their general teachings, picking out one issue and labeling false callings. Some are much too soft. Jesus said what needed to be said. He apologized to no one for their feelings in regards to truth. Some just seem to be to committed to the world. They half call out, half protect erroneously quoting a "don't judge" rhetoric. Etc. Etc.
Auslan is excellent as well my spirit is never going to check behind him and Nick they're really good your discernment if you got the holy Spirit and you will let you know
I think people put to much ephesians on Pharises when there was a gang of domination, scribs, zealots, nicolatins, sadduces, essense. We need to educate ourselves as believers if we gonna say we are followers of christ.
I think it is bad for the community. Videos about whether Taylor Swift looks demonic or does Ice Spice look demonic praying. All that stuff is a distraction and adds no value. The more we reduce Christian content to this level that's what people are going to crave. You give children a taste of what you want them to value. And if we keep giving Christians this taste. They won't listen to sermons or read their Bibles they will crave a Clip of Taylor swift manifesting at a concert. It's quite absurd honestly.
why Are Christian TH-camrs monetizing they’re videos, are you in it for the money or furthering the gospel? Shai Linne said it best using Jesus as a lottery ticket.
I think the answer is practical. It cost money to run a channel and since they are not supported by a local church and are putting hours into developing these videos, you need to make money to continue to support what you do. And to address Shai Linne, I love his music, he has a patreon so I believe he was talking about the prosperity gospel and people using ministry as a retirement fund.
@JaiClaire880 if you go to GOCC, they don't monetize & have fewer followers than Ruslan & Lucre, so I disagree that if their community andchurch don't support they shouldn't be a member of that organization
Ex christian here, i think this was a pretty good video. Unfortunately, it seems like the ability to check yourself doesn't seem to be a common thing for the christian TH-cam scene. A big part might be because they need that content so they can sacrifice some values in exchange for better engagement.
The difference is when you comparing the scribes and the Pharisees they did not have the holy Spirit that's why there was against Jesus but people who are walking with Jesus the disciples they had discernment of the holy Spirit and corrected and rebuked for good reason of the spirit by the spirit
@@cephas5053 IMO, he knows the bible but doesn’t seem to have a relationship and when a person may move in error he goes straight into they are false and thats it! But what about some of the things he doesn’t believe in thats in the bible…
It isn't a problem at all. Are we called to run at them with pointing fingers, screaming, and yelling that they are damned? No, not in the least. Are we to expose their desteuctive teachings to those that would hear with proof in the word that opposes what they claim? Yes. We are not to participate in their destructive teachings, but absolutely we are to call them out when seen. But it should never be our mission or joy to do so. When we come across those that teach wrongly, we reprove with kindness and openness, using the word and not opinion. Ephesians 5:11-13 as just one example. And do not participate in the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even expose them, for the things being done in secret is shameful even to speak of, but all things becoming exposed by the light become visible. And how many times did paul in his letters call out false teaching of those who missed the mark or had twisted scripture? Did he not sleak to an entire church and tell them he was surprised how quickly they turned away from the true gospel? Do not pay heed to those like these people who only seek to argue in endless controversy on teachings they are unaware of. Resd the word in full and dont follow the allures of mans interpretation of the word. It interprets itself. Are we not called to warn a divisive person once then a 2nd time then if they continue to have nothing more to do with them? How then in the same way, is trying to shine light on false teaching any different? We are not to seek or persue argument but showing that what some say to go starkly against the word is not that Grace be with you all.
But outside of that if God don't tell them to pray for them or stop praying for the so-called Christian that's out there doing wrong I feel like we're called to pray for our brothers and sisters if they truly are to repent and turn and that God will deal with them because they're leading other people as straight when they're walking in the darkness and they supposed to be the light John the Baptist got on that that husband and wife thing when may I was sleeping with his brother his wife and expose it openly and loudly yes that is how we do it today and it's more of it today cuz it's more people who have been taking captive by entertainment and it's become mainstream to do what you want to get what you want selfishness is running rampant in this world and if you ain't following Jesus that's what you got going on in your life Christian or no Christian
But when you are trying to lead people back to Christ that should always be the goal. Because we want people to be raptured and not left behind. God knows our motives. The Holy Spirit should be our guide in everything 🙏🏾
Turning at church into a club partying in the church like it's a club please this shouldn't even be a question with you fellas that's what all the clubs out there for that's what you want to do do it out there don't be doing it in the church worship and honor and glory to God on the altar in the house of the Lord not get your freak on
When unsound, unbiblical doctrine is being taught then it should be called out. Many in the church don’t or won’t correct anything. Then people outside the church and Christ will talk about the hypocrisy they see. I really don’t believe you see no problem with the foolishness that is shown in the many videos these Christian TH-camrs have shown.
Alright so the fact that he thought it was John the Baptist who dealt with jezebel and not JEHU who called her out (not Elijah) …he ran and hid Btw that “NEW SHALOM” by #LECRAE still hits hard to this day man
Rely with something YOU HAVE WITNESSED Pastor Gino do that goes against the Holy Scriptures. Please don’t reply with him being “judgmental” because Jesus Christ said to TEACH ALL OF IT. He never said to NOT HURT US SINNERS FEELING. Matter fact He said to hurt our feelings. Gino is a GOD SENT PREACHER NOT A MOTIVATED PROSPERITY SPOKESPERSON.
The Pharisees needed to look at themselves about helping others they were calling out some of the right stuff but they the part where there were lacking they weren't helping the world either they wasn't doing nothing directly wrong but there was people in need and did they help them they was calling out sinners well centers are sinners sinners do with sinners do Christians supposed to do with Christians do live holy Christian and call out the centers to repent but we have so called Christian centers who need to repent call it out but if you're one of those the Bible tells you take the log out of your own eye before you try to take the spec out of the other that's where the Pharisees was wrong like y'all said they didn't fix what was wrong with them and get right with God in their area because their situation they look as big as those out there to them they may not have been committing adultery but they probably wouldn't pay any ties or maybe how they act and interacted with the public they walk by people in need like a lot of us Christians do today I run into quite a few of them they say that Christians they they never try to witness to nobody or lead anybody to the Lord they also don't feed the homeless individuals not just as a whole we need to have that attitude they don't pray with anybody on the street that's in trouble none of that many Christians in Jesus said in some or some of you so where we need to repent even if we ain't got it together then we go out and do the work of the Lord do the work of an evangelist the Bible says and those scribes and Pharisees and the Old testament are in the New testament they weren't doing that because Jesus was coming to straighten that out he wasn't there he was the example and they never seen one like this before so he was really coming to correct a lot of the scribes of the Pharisees the religious like the Bible says having a form of God in this but denying the power thereof it's a lot of that going on in the church on both ends holier than thou ones and just straight out rebellion in their sin in the world
Nick Jones is definitely authentic he is truly sincere and wanting to reach people to repent of their sins Christians are non-christians he loved the Lord and really want to see people not go to hell I know that's true by the contents that he shares
Great assessment. Christian TH-cam much like many communities is a wide spectrum. I’ve been fortunate to be in a great church with a pastor that’s engaged.
In the last year We’ve made conscious effort to make “net positive” content. Avoiding dunking on celebrities or celebrity pastors.
Ya, it can be tough to keep a balance. Everyone is doing a good job but it would be good for the next generation of Christian influencers to hear us give some advice on how to manage it.
love your videos man
Y’all both should delete your channels
@@Ephesians-yn8ux Is that in the flesh or spirit?
@@Ephesians-yn8ux🤔
When the focus of what Christians do is hunting out heresy we are wrong. Most of these you tubers do not focus on teaching and preaching the gospel in my experience . The danger is that many of these people do not check themselves even if our motives are right we can still be very wrong. I have watched people who are very popular and have a large following like Voddie Bochum John McArthur if you question their doctrine people come after you it’s the same with the prosperity preachers. The majority of us who follow these people don’t seem able to rightly divide the word of truth, one of the things I have issue with is when Christians constantly are calling each other out. What is our Christian witness, we forget the unsaved see us. I watched a channel that said “like and subscribe so we can have more followers than Kenneth Copeland”.
Why is it wrong to call out heresy for what it is??
Idk why people want to be so overly passive about wrong doctrine.
Paul did say call out false teachers who are teaching doctrine contrary to what he gave to the body of Christ
Try reading Timothy again. It may help
Yes! Paul called out names but it was written to the individuals he was writing too. Not the church as a whole. In this case it was Timothy.
In acts 20 Paul mentions wolves that would not spare the flock but he called for the elders. Not the whole church.
If we take our time when we study verses where someone was being rebuked or names were being called, we will see leaders holding other leaders accountable that they were in covenant with (right hand of fellowship).
What social media has created is some unruliness that’s out of order and possibly even going as far as plucking up the good pastors with the bad ones.
Even when Paul called out Peter it was to his face in front of the whole church right after they were given the right hand of fellowship.
But again, it was a leader (apostle) to another leader (apostle) and it was within the church. Not a public square.
We use Ephesians 5 as an expose scripture as well. But again we’re talking local autonomy.
When Pricilla and Aquila addressed Apollos. They did NOT rebuke him publicly although he spoke publicly.
The scripture says they pulled him to the side. Why? Because they did not know him.
Marking those who cause division is not necessarily calling someone out publicly. But more on the lines of taking note and heed to someone and saying to others “lookout for him/her” and name doesn’t always have to be called unless they persist in causing the division.
This is what happened when Paul finally addresses Peter. But notice he did not rebuke him initially in Jerusalem but rather Antioch where issue began.
Another good example is Paul writing to the Church of Rome (16:17) as well as warning Timothy about Alexander and the harm he had caused. He’s warning to Timothy take note of Alexander in a letter not a public display.
“Pastors who sin rebuke before all so the rest may fear” was an instruction to a leader.
Timothy being delegated apostolic authority as a leader was given the charge to rebuke not everyone else.
A good example is Paul to Peter’s face within the fellowship of Antioch. It was in house not out house
“Open rebuke is better than secret love” is more in reference of making an issue known to that person. Not a public expedition.
What the internet has created is a lack of discretion that many of us have been guilty of partaking in.
So I understand where you’re coming from. Being a former follower of Ex-ministries I’ve studied these passages thoroughly and came to the conclusion that “Houston we have a problem.”
On top of that, I’ve been working in management for 23 years now and know first how this thing works. And I didn’t even mention jurisdiction. But anyway, I hope this helps. Blessings..
@@Jquarles1973 “Not the church as a whole”? Paul scorched the whole Galatian church for starting out with Christ and turning onto legalisms.
@@ebenoit72 My point exactly. He was a leader. Leaders hold leaders accountable.
The Pharisees didn't practice what they preached. They had no integrity, and Jesus Christ had the most excoriating judgment for them!
Ummm, John, the Baptist, didn't deal with Jezebel and Ahab.. that was Elijah. John dealt with King Herod
Sorry about that.
@@LeveledHeadGamer exactly…this is a mess lol. Mistaking and misspeaking on scripture but then criticizing someone else’s critic…🤦🏾♂️. Fam this ain’t it
@didactic02 We should at least acknowledge them owning it (in the 1st comment posted). I follow a great deal of Christian YT and THAT is LARGELY missing within this particular community...🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@kingdomauxSOOOO LATE to this video, but I follow a great deal of Christian YT and GREATLY respect the taking of accountability for the mistake. I can tell you, as you may already know, THAT is LARGELY missing within this particular community...🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I said the same thing 😂
As Christians, we should want conviction so that we can learn and grow.
I agree having a church and a group of brothers and sisters that can pour into your life is essential.
I think one of the biggest issues with what you mentioned in terms of people not attending church physically, is that a lot of people lately turn to Christ alone in their home without a local community and in their zeal, start a TH-cam or TikTok or someone thing that does end up blowing up and they aren’t as foundational as someone who does have community and accountability. It’s that lack of preparation that creates the compromise to remain or grow in popularity
I'm glad to hear you guys speak on this topic as it was on my mind as well! Great episode
I have recently been put on the Christian TH-cam channels - I've become a member on Ruslan's Patreon - I watch Nick Jones and also Truth IS and you guys here at Trackstarz and I attend church regularly - hoping to find a good time to be incorporated into a small group with the church I've been going to. If there is one key thing I've learned through watching the podcasts or the videos - it is that, there is so much going on in this world that is happening that has pulled me away from my relationship with God. There is so much work on the enemy's end and divisiveness and messaging and symbolism out there that I am only learning now how someone who wants to do right and be hot for God can also be swayed. The videos have helped me be more aware of the content I consume - especially the secular content - the messages the lyrics the movie plots -- the shows -- ALL OF IT. If anything, the videos have helped me pursue God more and want to be set apart from the things of this world. I always enjoy listening to your podcast - your takes and POVS - the insight is enriching!
That is awesome! That is why we all do it. Giving some wisdom to fellow believers while also speaking to those that are on the fence and starting to realize that God is calling them to more. Thanks for checking us out.
Hey great conversation gentlemen well needed in the space. I appreciate the humble attitudes thank you for this
Thanks Matt!
Stick with the Bible not your opinion and make sure you are qualified to teach people
Amen.
Scripture instructs us to identify and mark false teachers with the motivation to warn those who are vulnerable and might become victims as Jude does and instruct them to test the spirit as the Apostle John does and to remain aware of them as the Apostle Paul does. When the motivation is care for the well-being of God's people, more importantly according to the will of God, which is made known by the Spirit of God and the Word of God. This goes to your point that all of us need to be connected to a local church and as I always say, "Everybody needs a pastor, one who is a disciple of the Son of God, filled with the Spirit of God, and steeped in the Word of God."
The problem with Christian TH-cam is its thinly veiled preoccupation with worldliness and finding a middle ground between the church and the world, when the way calls us to be seperate and holy. With all the Christian's in the TH-cam space, the world doesn't seem any safer, and even worse, it doesn't seem any more informed on how to live a life pleasing to God. It seems more confused, with many forever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth.
How do you imagine it at its best?
@@trackstarz I believe it's time for God's people to be God's people and his alone; he's a jealous God. The fact that there are "Christian influencers" means that there are people who were called out of the world that still choose to model their lives and platforms after it. We're supposed to be in the world to plant and water for the harvest, but not of it, lest we defile ourselves with the pleasures thereof. Yet, these influencers spend much of their time discussing the same topics that pop culture channels talk about. Covering those topics from a "Christian perspective" is just another way of entertaining godlessness, witchcraft, debauchery and mammon. Why is it that our people (Christians) want to engage so much with the culture of this world instead of rejecting it completely? That's what holiness is, being separate unto God, and his standard is holiness. There's no middle ground. Many of these influencers have led God's people astray by shepherding them into the world and calling it middle ground. The way to the kingdom is a narrow one, and the road traveled by the so-called influencer is broad. It's sad. Thanks for responding.
The reference to the plank is to not judge hypocritically.
Yeah the motivation and we have to be careful it’s not gossip and judgment.
Allen Parr has some videos related to this subject. I think his views are solid on most things and he's the only content creator that I've watched that is pretty open about the temptations specifically related to Christian TH-cam.
I’m usually impressed with your content, but it was especially cool hearing you all speak on a topic you seem to have another level of experience in. Thanks again…
Thank you all for this convo! I myself am a creative artist and a preacher (ordained minister) and aside from being a performer and producer, I’ve been wanting to do the Christian TH-cam thing as well but not the format of being an “exposer” or “Christian news blogger” but preaching and teaching and sharing revelation, in practical and creative ways. Although I am a controversial type of person, I’ve felt for a while that the whole “exposing channel”thing is played out.
Great show and a needed discussion for sure! Some channels you mentioned are sarcastic in their delivery. More like you're dumb, I'm smart and you should know A B and C.This is very dangerous. You see the pride building up. We have to stay prayerful for all the christian influencers as we do for our pastors and church leaders. Why? They have a platform and baby believers and nonbelievers are watching. Key takeaways from this episode is heart posture and being led by the Holy Spirit. Pray for discernment too.
It comes down to if you are punching down or not. I once was obsessed with christian youtube and trying to learn the Christian lifestyle. Then it just got too dogmatic. I'm still christian but i got turned off with how nuanced people in nuanced situations were being attack from a morality standpoint. What i appreciate about this channel is that yall arent afraid to examine yourselves publicly. Working out your own salvation with fear and trembling. It shows humility and that yall really tryna please God at the end of the day. I have grace if yall in particular go hard b/c i know yall are really tryna learn from the errors of others and not publicly chastise them knowing they cant defend themselves.
Ruslan built his channel off of calling out Steven Furtick. And Furtick wasn't even doing anything wrong, he just had thousands of haters. I can build a channel right now off of Mike Todd hate, and Chad Veech hate, etc. That is an easy way to get views, and hook people in. I think there is a place for shining a light on error, or trying to instruct the body of Christ in what is right. But it has to come from a pure place, with love! Also it needs to come with accountability. Some people just want to get rich, and some people are Pharisees with a bunch of issues, and wounds they haven't dealt with.
Good conversation
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This is what happens when the Bible is not read and understood by NOBODY. A lot of talking heads. This is getting worse not better.
I some time tune-in into Smart Christian (who now is thinking about actually becoming an out right preacher) and Nick Jones and I've asked both since they seem to bash all ministries that I know of and I know plenty, who do they support and suggest... I'M STILL WAITING FOR A RESPONSE!!! 🤦🏾♀️
I’m not entirely sure that looking at an unsaved person and critiquing what they’re doing is not all that effective, I think, focusing on righteousness and teaching righteousness, and pointing people to Christ is the best answer.
This is good things to think about even for Future Christian TH-camrs who may make it big on the platform.
Making our message from Christ less about Self-Righteousness and more about The Righteous One
Some of these Christian TH-camrs only focus on criticizing others. I find it very concerning that in a time when there is a push for the world to go cashless and enforce digital Ids, i am only hearing about he said and she said. There is no balance.
Some people go to church and still don’t get opportunities to get help from groups of people. It’s like no real concern at times. You can maybe go for prayer but, there seems to be a lot of disconnect throughout my experience.
Idk I think Ruslan and Whaddoyou meme are far from being pharisetical. They are helping Christian’s look at culture in a new light.
Absolutely, they are doing a great job
I had to unsub from Whatddoyoumeme because he felt like the equivalent of a Christian DramaTube channel rather than being about addressing the culture from a Christian perspective.
@@guardiansoulblade2673that’s what he’s doing though lol
Brothers first, your guest doesnt read the Bible, he consufes Jezabel, Acab, and John the Baptiist. Second, Brother Corey from Smart Christians always reads the Bible. Ruslan and THE BEAT by Allen Parr are doing a good job. Follow their sample and open the Bible too, you give opinions, we want The Word not shallow words.
What I say to them is that they need to be focusing more on things of the Kingdom than things of the world.
My issue with the TH-cam channel that calls pastor out is that they call out with out really gives us where the pastor was wrong.
Thank you for doing this. I can't stomach the Christian TH-camrs critics culture. It giving Christianity a bad rep. I'm not for it at all. I don't find any proper biblical foundation to it. Our Lord said they will know us by our love. Nothing loving with the calling out one another. Please don't stop there @trackstarz I believe you can bring a change.
They will know us by our fruit.❤
yes. the word says God will judge the world. however we are to put out the evil person from among us. meaning wolves in thechurch. that is why my channel is focused on critiquing the issues and false teachers WITHIN the church. i don't do too much of judging the world which most christian youtube channels do. because that it is not our job to judge them. the church is in enough mess on its own
@@christianforrealjudge righteously 🤦🏽♀️. In Ephesians we are called to expose wolves. We as Christians have to stop ignoring this.
However, when all they do is “expose” and call it a ministry….beg to differ.
It isn't a problem at all. Are we called to run at them with pointing fingers, screaming, and yelling that they are damned? No, not in the least. Are we to expose their destructive teachings to those that would hear with proof in the word that opposes what they claim? Yes.
We are not to participate in their desteuctive teachings but absolutely we are to call them out when seen.
But it should never be our mission or joy to do so.
When we come across those that teach wrongly, we reprove with kindness and openness, using the word and not opinion.
Ephesians 5:11-13 as just one example.
And do not participate in the unfruitful works of darkness, but rsther even expose them, for the things being done in secret is shameful even to speak of, but all things becoming exposed by theblight become visible.
And how many times did paul in his letters call out false teaching of those who missed the mark or had twisted scripture?
Did he not sleak to an entire church and tell them he was surprised how quickly they turned away from the true gospel?
Do not pay heed to those like these people who only seek to argue in endless controversy on teachings they are unaware of.
Resd the word in full and dont follow the allures of mans interpretation of the word. It interprets itself.
Grace be with you all.
@@FollowChristNotMan Paul did call people out by name for your information so it’s not wrong to do that.
What is the heart, spirit, intentions behind the critique? Man judges on the outward appearance. God judges on the heart.
Are you critiquing to ‘grow’ yourself or your platform? That’s a key question to ask.
Judgment can be perceived by those in offense or those offended in sin. 2 Tim 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. Those in bad doctrine will always scream JUDGEMENT if called out. Use those that reprove and correct to balance your video or aporoach. Yet we all are called in the community to follow ministry Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Great Topic 👍🏾
I have been looking so hard to find a church where I am able to fit in it's not really working I was at a church at a Bible study and I told the pastor something in the Bible study that that the holy Spirit told me and I never have a problem saying that the holy Spirit told me it wasn't like some Epiphany that I had on my own and the pastor said holy Spirit condescending like and like I can't believe she's talking about this imaginary person 💞🔥💞
⏰ The difference between a Pharisee and someone with righteous indignation is , one has just an opinion and the other has FRUIT along with their rationalization. Most Christian TH-camrs don’t even have Bible studies, yet along devotional teachings online, YET heavily criticize others. Where’s the fruit?? Also, intent doesn’t mean you’re not wrong. “There’s a way that SEEMETH right, but the end is destruction” -Prov 14
The holy spirit had to show me that a lot of things i would tell others was for me also but i ignorantly thought it was just for others.i had put myself in the position of delivering and not receiving.
This was really good
Corey minors does teach the word. You should take him out the thumbnail. Everyone else i kinda understand
Very good input
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The difference is God telling you and you doing it yourself. Being sent not you went. Allow the Lord to led you. Sit down and wait on God to tell you what to do
That’s right it’s god to have a church that you can attend to be grounded.
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I'm finding myself embroiled in your conversations like I'm sitting and I'm having conversations with you this is how you know whether or not you're being controversial like a Pharisee or whether or not you're calling people out in love is if the Holy Spirit tell you to say it the Lord be telling me to say things to some people and somebody else will be doing the same thing and he won't give me no word to say to them what I have found is that the Lord will chastise those he loves some people he already turned them over like have at it it's nothing to say to them so when you saying stuff to people like Jamal Bryant God then turned him over now you just be trying to look for something to say 💞🔥💞 I'll add one more thing the Lord said Jacob I loved Esau I hated if you notice the lord always corrected Jacob he never said nothing to Esau and Esau was off the hook He let Esau get what Esau got like have at it REPOBATE
Scripture is clear that we are to call out sinful or deceitful teachers
The Pharisees like you said their intent was wrong but they were scoffers and another thing about them they was legalistic but they weren't following the laws that they was leaning on other people so they weren't living it 💞🔥💞 like that girl just said the Pharisees was not living nothing they was talking about they knew all 613 laws in and out but they were not living it they were walking around like monitoring spirits seeing who they couldn't point out so that they can prove that they knew the letter of the law 💞🔥💞
I think you all have misunderstood the pharisees. Based on scripture they taught man-made rules and regulations. They also sat by while God's temple became a marketplace. They were upset that Jesus helped people understood the Father's true intentions, including being a Father to Gentiles.
I believe the "YT" issue from Christians is more complex. Some call out pastors without understanding their general teachings, picking out one issue and labeling false callings. Some are much too soft. Jesus said what needed to be said. He apologized to no one for their feelings in regards to truth. Some just seem to be to committed to the world. They half call out, half protect erroneously quoting a "don't judge" rhetoric. Etc. Etc.
Who is the lady that was on the discussion panel?
I think you have to consider is what I am doing edifying to my subscribers or am I just another gossip channel posing as faith based.
Have the right heart posture and Godly intentions to inform by permission of the Holy Spirit and wise counsel and stay away from people pleasing
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Auslan is excellent as well my spirit is never going to check behind him and Nick they're really good your discernment if you got the holy Spirit and you will let you know
I think people put to much ephesians on Pharises when there was a gang of domination, scribs, zealots, nicolatins, sadduces, essense. We need to educate ourselves as believers if we gonna say we are followers of christ.
Like Corey Minor Smart Christian Channel. He never mentions that he have a Pastor
I think it is bad for the community. Videos about whether Taylor Swift looks demonic or does Ice Spice look demonic praying. All that stuff is a distraction and adds no value. The more we reduce Christian content to this level that's what people are going to crave. You give children a taste of what you want them to value. And if we keep giving Christians this taste. They won't listen to sermons or read their Bibles they will crave a Clip of Taylor swift manifesting at a concert. It's quite absurd honestly.
why Are Christian TH-camrs monetizing they’re videos, are you in it for the money or furthering the gospel? Shai Linne said it best using Jesus as a lottery ticket.
I think the answer is practical. It cost money to run a channel and since they are not supported by a local church and are putting hours into developing these videos, you need to make money to continue to support what you do. And to address Shai Linne, I love his music, he has a patreon so I believe he was talking about the prosperity gospel and people using ministry as a retirement fund.
You can do something for Jesus and still make a living. You have to support your family.
@JaiClaire880 if you go to GOCC, they don't monetize & have fewer followers than Ruslan & Lucre, so I disagree that if their community andchurch don't support they shouldn't be a member of that organization
Imagine saying there's a problem with Christian TH-cam meanwhile you're misquoting the Bible. I think we found the problem
Ex christian here, i think this was a pretty good video. Unfortunately, it seems like the ability to check yourself doesn't seem to be a common thing for the christian TH-cam scene.
A big part might be because they need that content so they can sacrifice some values in exchange for better engagement.
When they start getting paid to do it going downhill after!
The difference is when you comparing the scribes and the Pharisees they did not have the holy Spirit that's why there was against Jesus but people who are walking with Jesus the disciples they had discernment of the holy Spirit and corrected and rebuked for good reason of the spirit by the spirit
Smart Christian TV he is a Pharisee. IMO
Yep
How so?
@@cephas5053 IMO, he knows the bible but doesn’t seem to have a relationship and when a person may move in error he goes straight into they are false and thats it! But what about some of the things he doesn’t believe in thats in the bible…
@@katrinalee-jones7403 can u give some examples of what he doesn't believe in the bible
@@JejejsnDjfjdjwhy? I never said he didn’t believe in the Bible.
10:02 keep it on the whole Bible
Does this young man know his Bible?
It isn't a problem at all. Are we called to run at them with pointing fingers, screaming, and yelling that they are damned? No, not in the least. Are we to expose their desteuctive teachings to those that would hear with proof in the word that opposes what they claim? Yes.
We are not to participate in their destructive teachings, but absolutely we are to call them out when seen.
But it should never be our mission or joy to do so.
When we come across those that teach wrongly, we reprove with kindness and openness, using the word and not opinion.
Ephesians 5:11-13 as just one example.
And do not participate in the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even expose them, for the things being done in secret is shameful even to speak of, but all things becoming exposed by the light become visible.
And how many times did paul in his letters call out false teaching of those who missed the mark or had twisted scripture?
Did he not sleak to an entire church and tell them he was surprised how quickly they turned away from the true gospel?
Do not pay heed to those like these people who only seek to argue in endless controversy on teachings they are unaware of.
Resd the word in full and dont follow the allures of mans interpretation of the word. It interprets itself.
Are we not called to warn a divisive person once then a 2nd time then if they continue to have nothing more to do with them?
How then in the same way, is trying to shine light on false teaching any different? We are not to seek or persue argument but showing that what some say to go starkly against the word is not that
Grace be with you all.
You would feel right
It’s not a then line
The word is the factor
But outside of that if God don't tell them to pray for them or stop praying for the so-called Christian that's out there doing wrong I feel like we're called to pray for our brothers and sisters if they truly are to repent and turn and that God will deal with them because they're leading other people as straight when they're walking in the darkness and they supposed to be the light John the Baptist got on that that husband and wife thing when may I was sleeping with his brother his wife and expose it openly and loudly yes that is how we do it today and it's more of it today cuz it's more people who have been taking captive by entertainment and it's become mainstream to do what you want to get what you want selfishness is running rampant in this world and if you ain't following Jesus that's what you got going on in your life Christian or no Christian
But when you are trying to lead people back to Christ that should always be the goal. Because we want people to be raptured and not left behind. God knows our motives. The Holy Spirit should be our guide in everything 🙏🏾
the Bible app is so free LOL!!! - stay epic Christian TH-camrs and let God be your guide.
@@Listenthenspk boy be quiet
I stopped watching them
Turning at church into a club partying in the church like it's a club please this shouldn't even be a question with you fellas that's what all the clubs out there for that's what you want to do do it out there don't be doing it in the church worship and honor and glory to God on the altar in the house of the Lord not get your freak on
When unsound, unbiblical doctrine is being taught then it should be called out. Many in the church don’t or won’t correct anything. Then people outside the church and Christ will talk about the hypocrisy they see. I really don’t believe you see no problem with the foolishness that is shown in the many videos these Christian TH-camrs have shown.
Exactly
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Alright so the fact that he thought it was John the Baptist who dealt with jezebel and not JEHU who called her out (not Elijah) …he ran and hid
Btw that “NEW SHALOM” by #LECRAE still hits hard to this day man
Rely with something YOU HAVE WITNESSED Pastor Gino do that goes against the Holy Scriptures. Please don’t reply with him being “judgmental” because Jesus Christ said to TEACH ALL OF IT. He never said to NOT HURT US SINNERS FEELING. Matter fact He said to hurt our feelings. Gino is a GOD SENT PREACHER NOT A MOTIVATED PROSPERITY SPOKESPERSON.
It’s funny that this video is doing the exact same thing that they’re critiquing 🤣
The Pharisees needed to look at themselves about helping others they were calling out some of the right stuff but they the part where there were lacking they weren't helping the world either they wasn't doing nothing directly wrong but there was people in need and did they help them they was calling out sinners well centers are sinners sinners do with sinners do Christians supposed to do with Christians do live holy Christian and call out the centers to repent but we have so called Christian centers who need to repent call it out but if you're one of those the Bible tells you take the log out of your own eye before you try to take the spec out of the other that's where the Pharisees was wrong like y'all said they didn't fix what was wrong with them and get right with God in their area because their situation they look as big as those out there to them they may not have been committing adultery but they probably wouldn't pay any ties or maybe how they act and interacted with the public they walk by people in need like a lot of us Christians do today I run into quite a few of them they say that Christians they they never try to witness to nobody or lead anybody to the Lord they also don't feed the homeless individuals not just as a whole we need to have that attitude they don't pray with anybody on the street that's in trouble none of that many Christians in Jesus said in some or some of you so where we need to repent even if we ain't got it together then we go out and do the work of the Lord do the work of an evangelist the Bible says and those scribes and Pharisees and the Old testament are in the New testament they weren't doing that because Jesus was coming to straighten that out he wasn't there he was the example and they never seen one like this before so he was really coming to correct a lot of the scribes of the Pharisees the religious like the Bible says having a form of God in this but denying the power thereof it's a lot of that going on in the church on both ends holier than thou ones and just straight out rebellion in their sin in the world
13:14 or God had rejected 🙅🏾♂️ them!!!
Nick Jones is definitely authentic he is truly sincere and wanting to reach people to repent of their sins Christians are non-christians he loved the Lord and really want to see people not go to hell I know that's true by the contents that he shares
I like that. Find a church home
This channel definitely is on of those people yall talk about