This Is Why Record Labels Want Your Masters

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  • This Is Why Record Labels Want Your Masters
    Lame. 🤬
    This clip pissed me off.⁣

    I wasn’t pissed at the system.⁣

    I’m not even pissed at the weak ass dude in the video.⁣

    I was pissed at how matter of factly he was speaking.⁣

    Like this shit is normal.⁣

    And ok.⁣

    Marketing someone else’s product and owning it in perpetuity without sharing the wealth with them is not ok.⁣

    Making someone pay for all of the expense to market their product while you collect all of the profits is not ok.⁣

    Keeping people in debt to you for 25 years when you’ve made $100,000,000 from a business venture that cost you $1m is not ok.⁣

    In no other realm of business would this be ok.⁣

    But in the music industry it is.⁣

    Because the music industry is fucked.⁣

    NO MORE.⁣

    No more signing over your masters.⁣

    Your masters generate so much revenue and they finance everything that these labels do.⁣

    Not just for you, but for other artists too.⁣

    Drake’s catalog is literally keeping the lights on a Universal.⁣

    Not just for him,⁣

    Or Cash Money.⁣

    Or Young Money.⁣

    For EVERYONE.⁣

    Drake deserves an equity stake in every artist’s earnings who have used revenue from his catalog to generate more revenue.⁣

    But since this is the music business, that would be preposterous.⁣

    IT’S OUR TIME.⁣

    I’m proving that with “True Support”.⁣

    1,000 Pre-Orders and I’m beating the shit out of signed artists on the charts.⁣

    We don’t need them.⁣

    Stop signing your life away.⁣

    Build your brand.⁣

    Feed your fans.⁣

    What do you think?⁣

    Do we need labels?⁣

    Should we sign over our masters?⁣

    I need real answers. ⁣

    Not no clout chasing bullshit. ⁣

    I wanna know ⁣

    Comment in the comments. ⁣
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  • @kaysha
    @kaysha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +526

    The solution is invest in yourself. Who invests the money owns the master. Be independent.

    • @oddnoir8592
      @oddnoir8592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      One love kaysha 🇨🇻

    • @icemike1
      @icemike1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's not that simple poor people are desperate

    • @lee_drifting
      @lee_drifting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@icemike1 these days, its simple since we have the internet. we have various ways to make money when it comes to art. many ppl out here selling their music digitally, on tapes, and on vinyl on bandcamp

    • @icemike1
      @icemike1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lee_drifting are you

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@icemike1 what's stopping you? let's break it down rn! 🤜

  • @SelfTaughtWeightloss
    @SelfTaughtWeightloss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    This is why the record companies want talent so young. When you're young all you see is the advance money they give you. They don't know that an advance is actually a loan that they have to pay back. It's a deliberate scam.

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    • @electricpurple4112
      @electricpurple4112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly.

    • @karensmith8361
      @karensmith8361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Don't forget to payback with a BIG interest rate 💯

    • @deezzzeverything51
      @deezzzeverything51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow! I never knew that..

    • @kitsunegiblaze8022
      @kitsunegiblaze8022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They sign these dumb ass drugged up kids like Lil Xan. Make em popular. Wait til they die from the drugs THEIR INDUSTRY HANDLERS GIVE EM and then they just cash in on their deaths. Same thing happened to Kurt Cobain. We all know that man could not load no damn shotgun while he was too high to even move outta the damn recliner.

  • @abefinklestein711
    @abefinklestein711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +677

    When Michael Jackson owned half of Sony Records he was grossing 250 million a year just off of that! Plus he had the Beatles & other publishings. No wonder they offed him. 😢😢

    • @dredayb1207
      @dredayb1207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I don't think that figure is rt you heard what dude said a billion not million and you forgot to mention Michael had the Beatles catalog I'm hearing alot of different artists talk these days about their master's my advice is try different approach than Prince and Michael and Kanye please be careful bro if something happens to that brother I think it will be because he is demanding his masters back but hats off to Kanye for setting the example with his own artists

    • @abefinklestein711
      @abefinklestein711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      @@dredayb1207 I meant Michael was making at least 250 million a year off his 50% ownership in sony, that's not counting his own sales and his ownership of the Beatles, James Brown, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett & other catalogues, Michael & Prince did nothing wrong, they were killed for doing " Good Business "

    • @dredayb1207
      @dredayb1207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@abefinklestein711 can't argue with you there🎯🎯🎯

    • @67LOCsiNYC
      @67LOCsiNYC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@abefinklestein711 your comment is spot on and you need way more likes, people are sleep

    • @MrVanderbilt25
      @MrVanderbilt25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      And if I recall correctly, didn’t Michael Jackson give some of that money back to James Brown or one of the other artists you mentioned?

  • @christopherjacobtv8204
    @christopherjacobtv8204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +363

    Masters = generational wealth

    • @angelbennett3891
      @angelbennett3891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Prince eluded to this also...

    • @virgohontas
      @virgohontas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just about to google the answer to masters. Lol Thank you!

    • @gunleejp
      @gunleejp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It depends on if your music get played for generations if your music is just sitting there your masters don’t equate to generational wealth

    • @barkanellichasingdreams4142
      @barkanellichasingdreams4142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hollywood accounting. If the label get all the income and then distribute it to the artist the label cal screw the artist. The artist or band can never screw the label.
      Will it happend?

    • @Speedster189
      @Speedster189 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but in the U.S. after 70 years after the original artists dies it becomes public domain meaning nobody can copyright it anymore

  • @CapitalGainzz
    @CapitalGainzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Michael owned 50% of assets in Sony. Fact check. No wonder he “died”.

    • @shondacheesecake
      @shondacheesecake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yup. And Sony bought it back from MJ's estate. Smh

    • @zebby613
      @zebby613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shondacheesecake Yes they did!!!!

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      When he died his family owns the catalog. The Jackson family are experienced they didnt have to sell back to Sony. I agree the record labels suck but they didnt kill MJ, and killing him doesnt mean they get the catalog back.
      And MJ didnt "own 50% of sony" Sony is a huge multi-national company that makes TVs, electronics of all kinds, and they have stakes in movies, TV shows, entertainment of all kinds. MJ didnt own 50% of shit.

    • @CapitalGainzz
      @CapitalGainzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tubester4567 You sound smart to someone dumb. He owned half of their MUSIC CATALOG. This is documented information that you can simply look up. 😂

    • @zebby613
      @zebby613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tubester4567 I agree MJ didn't own %50 of Sony...however he owned a lot of artist material which put him as a high player in the industry. There is a mystery in his death and the estate owning thereafter. His case is no different than Prince. As soon as he died Warner Bros had access to what was not accessible before AND right Prince had a meeting with Warner Bros two days prior. So one can see how people come up with such ideas as the industry is killing these powerful artist...I'll even add that George Michaels only surviving sister died on the same exact as he did years later " supposedly" being his estate holder after his death. All three of these men challenged the majors in some form or fashion and died unexpectedly. Afterward each death something was gained by their demise.

  • @jayg5650
    @jayg5650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    When he pulled the Miles record out...not gonna lie...hurt my heart.

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    • @putinwork3498
      @putinwork3498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😢❤❤

    • @LBright4444
      @LBright4444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah. My heart broke in that moment. I was hurt. Its like a rape of some kind. Go get yours independent artists!!!!!!!

    • @TheWillog
      @TheWillog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cory Butdette miles ? is that you ?

    • @lolap3667
      @lolap3667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too

  • @danjenkins2064
    @danjenkins2064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    This dude is really going to flip out if he ever figures out how the Federal Reserve works.

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    • @robinbaby1971
      @robinbaby1971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂😂

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @redsoxfan all 3 together bad combo

    • @Trill4life777
      @Trill4life777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right lol

    • @DephreeDog
      @DephreeDog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL! I can’t wait to see that one!

  • @chibanyc25
    @chibanyc25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    This is why someone called these people bloodsuckers and why others don't mind stealing downloads.

    • @thealchemist5761
      @thealchemist5761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At this point I wouldn't feel guilty about stealing anything, they don't.

    • @projectmanagement2356
      @projectmanagement2356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They can 🚬 some 🐓

    • @stickyfox
      @stickyfox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Musicians only make 10-15% of record sale profit, and that's *after* the distribution costs are taken out. They abuse artists and encourage people like James Hetfield to make asses of themselves fighting to defend the 80-90% of revenue the label takes.
      Fifty years ago, before a musician could buy a whole studio at Guitar Center for $2000, and release a single in seconds on YT or SoundCloud, there might have been an argument that labels contribute something of value. But now they're just a bunch of... well you called it!

  • @truthteller2839
    @truthteller2839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    This Is Why Record Labels Want Your Masters. Money, money, money. And that's the reason why those demons killed Prince, And Michael Jackson.

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    • @stephencook7337
      @stephencook7337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Prince didn’t pay his taxes lol

    • @Wizardjunior77
      @Wizardjunior77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ding ding ✊🏾respect

    • @Btvstudio
      @Btvstudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When you die, those rights transfer to your children or estate. So they weren't killed by people who wanted master rights SMH. Don't believe everything you read online.

    • @SHINE33777
      @SHINE33777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The soul is creative, and expansive.. "Universal" 😳 They're harvesting. They've been in the GARDEN.

  • @luissam1547
    @luissam1547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    And probably use that same bread to fund their Epstien trips also.

  • @mikhelBrown
    @mikhelBrown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    A Billion?! Damn! That's why they were all over Michael Jackson. #RIP

    • @royrose1472
      @royrose1472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You see now

    • @deefunkstrong7818
      @deefunkstrong7818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Indeed!!!!! Mike was even getting PlayStation money 💰

    • @raheemhamilton8624
      @raheemhamilton8624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Michael gave little Richard back his masters no charge at all.

    • @JustMe-ws2pe
      @JustMe-ws2pe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@raheemhamilton8624 facts

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  • @emmanuelsebua1445
    @emmanuelsebua1445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Artists pay for studio-time, publishing, printing, promotion, sound engineer, photographer, music video ect. At the end, they don't own what they wrote and made.

  • @TheLegendKc
    @TheLegendKc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Thas some real talk. I have been #indie for the longest. Ive had a few labels try and holla. As soon as they talked about keeping my masters, the convo was over.

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nothing more to discuss.

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    • @jonathanevelyn1063
      @jonathanevelyn1063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ppl still want to sign with these vulture labels smh

    • @deniawiseone95
      @deniawiseone95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @chivo_gaming
    @chivo_gaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I had a deal with Universal back in the day...but turned it down cuz they wanted to own my masters "indefinitely"....i was like🤔🤔🤔...this ain't gonna work...so I became a waiter...life's good....😊

    • @aherf2923
      @aherf2923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      if they got your masters back in the day you probably still would’ve became a waiter

    • @chivo_gaming
      @chivo_gaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@aherf2923 lol...facts...

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    • @yvescharles3193
      @yvescharles3193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @done1852
      @done1852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Drop your music on streams now you will be pleasantly surprised

  • @th3rd3arplan3tradio
    @th3rd3arplan3tradio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Remember what Q-Tip said... "Record company people are shady."

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  • @davidcoleman9317
    @davidcoleman9317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Prince was trying to teach a lot of people this same thing. I'm glad some people paid attention in class.

  • @phillipwalker4237
    @phillipwalker4237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Michael Jackson became "WACKO JACKO" when he acquired the ATV Music Publishing Catalog. Lastly, let's be honest, these record labels did not put a gun to many of these black artist heads for their masters recordings. They willingly gave it to them. Many of these black artists doesn't look at dealing with these record labels as a business. Making sure that they can at least be able to reacquire their Masters and Publishing. A great example of this would be rapper Sir Mix A Lot and his biggest record Baby Got Back. Since he got back his masters and Publishing, he "EASILY" made over $200 million dollars off of Baby Got Back alone. Remember rapper Nicky Minaj remade Sir Mix A Lot's record named Anaconda

    • @kristafurdixon8121
      @kristafurdixon8121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      You think they don't trick them into using a label funded lawyer to look over contracts? You think those lawyers gonna look out for the artist or the label that's paying them? Most of them are scammed while thinking there being smart.. these labels had decades to perfect there deception!

    • @phillipwalker4237
      @phillipwalker4237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kristafurdixon8121 : Many of these artists were lazy and shortsighted. They didn't ensure that these record labels weren't lying to them or try to slip clauses in the contract that overwhelmingly favors the record label. They didn't have lawyers and accountants of their own to watch over their affairs. Many artists gave away big records because they either wanted an upfront large payout or even they didn't think the record wouldn't do anything. A good example would be rapper Warren G. He's still trying to get the masters to his greatest record Regulate. Regulate is one of Rap Musics greatest song ever made. Def Jam EASILY made over $100 million dollars off the song. Their parent company Universal Records made far more. Don't let start with Rappers Delight by the Sugar Hill Gang. You want a great example of intellectual negligence and shortsightedness look no further.

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    • @richardsalmon2134
      @richardsalmon2134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nicki didn't remake shit. She USED A SAMPLE from his song to make hers but the difference is his song was a hit while she tried to take samples from others hit records to try and score one for herself and yet she's still trying with nothing. She should've tried to be herself......

    • @phillipwalker4237
      @phillipwalker4237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@richardsalmon2134 : Interesting, I heard snippets of the record. I thought Nicki Minaj remade Baby Got Back like Britney Spears remade Bobby Brown's My Prerogative. Trash😫!! Thanks!!!🤔🤔🤔👍👍👍👍😁😁

  • @victoriusalexander5884
    @victoriusalexander5884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You are teaching Brother-Man humanity how to creatively be wise at making, securing & perpetuating profit making music records, by reserving the right to own one's own Master recordings!

  • @drich8807
    @drich8807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If you're in the music industry, you need to listen to this!! Great video D!!

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  • @bounceenergydrink
    @bounceenergydrink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Sony was founded in 1946, that is 74 years ago, the number one money revenue source is games { Playstation } then music. Sony is a publicly-traded company that is worth 80 Billion dollars, there is no one person that has a controlling interest. If a global conglomerate agrees to sign you, again they are { investing } in your career. If they advance you xxxxx, and spent xxxxx to blow you up, the masters to that recording belongs to them unless in your contract it states that you have the rights to buy back that master recording in xxxx amount of years, or xxxx amount of dollars. In the streets, if the plug fronts you the work, do you own that work, do you own the cars, the jewelry, the homes, not until that plug is paid back, in fact, he will own that revenue stream until you find another plug. There are not too many multi-platinum recording artists that are known worldwide without the financing and huge promotion of a major label, they are the plug. Can you make millions without them { yes } but are you more concerned with being a star, or a working artist. This is the problem and the difference. Take an artist like Tech-9, been grinding independently for years, has a decent net-worth about 15 Million. He's good, he's not concerned with the glamour, the major publicity, the label rented mansions and Lamborghinis, are you ready to grind 24 hours-7 days a week to try to make it?. So to sum it up what is the value of your {ip }it is only worth what $$$$ it brings back to you and to your investors. The majors are an { F } machine, an assembly line, a bank, they invest, throw it against the wall, if it sticks, they put more $$$$ behind it, if not it has no value, they lost money for their shareholders.I've worked for many years for both, Majors & independent, majors suck, I'm an independent guy, but I respect the major's muscle and long-established roads they have created for independents to do their thing. So, make music, create your lane, make a living off of what you do, but understand, you don't wake up and say I'm going to slay the dragon, that creates the food from which I eat, without them, there is no Spotify, there is no, live nation, there are no concert venues to play live events, etc. Billion-dollar companies create billion-dollar opportunities, and the crumbs that fall off of those tables help you build your empire, it helps you fuel your other business interests, ask { Kanye, Jay-Z, Puffy, Dr.Dre } you don't have to join them, but you should understand how the games were created, being played, and will continue to grow, or die and re-invent it's-self as we currently know it.

    • @DJFRANKNICE34
      @DJFRANKNICE34 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Word!! I AGREE!!!

    • @sonsoffunk4437
      @sonsoffunk4437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FACTS ×1000 U SIR HAVE COMPLETELY BROKE IT DOWN *** SALUTE

    • @TheNumbasign2
      @TheNumbasign2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said

    • @Mandology575
      @Mandology575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bounceenergydrink Scooter Braun is that you?

    • @davidleonard1903
      @davidleonard1903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Such a terrible analogy to equate it to the streets AT ALL!!!!!
      A plug in the street fronting you work, is nothing CLOSE to a label owning your masters.
      Imagine after your business is done with your plug and yall sever ties.......you either go find a different plug OR you stacked and saved enough to start your own operation.....but you STILL have to pay your ORIGINAL plug xxxx dollars for every bag you sell for the rest of your life- even tho yall aint in bed together anymore. He gets to eat off you PERPETUALLY, even after youve made him his money back 10x over.....is that fair?!?!?
      A label may put 3 million in to your first project- for an advance, budget, distribution, marketing, promotion, touring, etc......you drop an album and it goes platinum....youve already at least DOUBLED the money they put up for you in the first place. You get a couple of points and they keep majority of the revenue, residuals, royalties, etc. EVEN AFTER YOUR CONTRACT IS DONE, they still get to eat off of YOUR art for the rest of their lives.
      And dont let it be a 360 deal because then, youre REALLY fucked

  • @LynnMacdonaldah
    @LynnMacdonaldah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I like the straight talking on this . I am not an artist but if I was i would always go independent

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      @beast4-prowomenbeauty-hete112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro... you forget they got connect with other business men who use your music for commercial use

    • @beast4-prowomenbeauty-hete112
      @beast4-prowomenbeauty-hete112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro be careful... you giving out too much game

    • @chuckkiephan6880
      @chuckkiephan6880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about the many people that made the IPHONE, do they get a percentage? Apple keeps all the stuff

    • @Noodles1771
      @Noodles1771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As much as I like the anger I always doubt it leads to actual questions about capitalism (hopefully I'm wrong). You can tell people to be independent all you want - the system will remain unchanged, your possible (and unlikely) success will be no threat to it. Listen to some Chomsky friend: th-cam.com/video/KoNOQ7LMR8c/w-d-xo.html

  • @williamhudson2815
    @williamhudson2815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Record labels are the devil's advocate.

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    • @char.ger-3321
      @char.ger-3321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If im correct, before Satan got sent to hell he used to be in charge of the choir in Heaven. So yeah he would prob have more influence in those areas.

  • @kareemsupremet.v.5189
    @kareemsupremet.v.5189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Rule #1
    Since Blacks are amazingly talented, and music is the second largest export out of the U.S. Make sure you hold all their masters for at least 32 years.
    Rule #2
    first learn rule #1

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    • @BMUSIK101
      @BMUSIK101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Explain how do you gain ownership?

    • @kareemsupremet.v.5189
      @kareemsupremet.v.5189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BMUSIK101 stay independent

    • @kareemsupremet.v.5189
      @kareemsupremet.v.5189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@t.y.s.t.v that shit is 🔥

    • @mako7697
      @mako7697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every race has talent in it

  • @charlesriggins8988
    @charlesriggins8988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The white man been take from Us as long as I been Alive. Am 50 years old and I must say that ALL Black Should be watching This Brotha Platform. Keep the content coming

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    • @ShotsMerkzAll
      @ShotsMerkzAll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is not about black or white. They don’t care about your colour. Do you think Jay Z or any black executive will give you a fair deal? Look at how amigos are being fucked over... This is a greed issue, lack of business sense, not white vs black or vice versa

    • @rtothe7068
      @rtothe7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It goes back further than that. All you have to do is watch a couple of episodes of Unsung to see that they’ve ALWAYS exploited black talent. And not just in music. Too bad we’re not the ones getting rich off of our natural abilities.

    • @prezakid9
      @prezakid9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You Bro, White man is taking from the white man as well, as we speak, ya dig!

    • @prezakid9
      @prezakid9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kuro Zee truth is the truth. Sorry if your offended, wasn’t my intention. Here let me put it to you more gently. My point was regardless of color or gender, record labels don’t discriminate when taking advantage of artists.

  • @CeDubble
    @CeDubble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’ve always said that master recordings are really generational wealth

  • @TheLivingTempest
    @TheLivingTempest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Your music is yours alone. Become your own company and label. Period.

    • @swiatlowiekuiste
      @swiatlowiekuiste 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But you dont have the resources for worldwide promotion, so youll never be a star

    • @abffyf3r
      @abffyf3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swiatlowiekuiste I be wanting them to explain this part so bad

    • @abffyf3r
      @abffyf3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@swiatlowiekuiste how can I make an living let alone be a star without the label power behind me pushing me now what I will say is that after the deal is up giving that you signed a minor deal you can than use that to start a independent career but with nothing its next to impossible

    • @swiatlowiekuiste
      @swiatlowiekuiste 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@abffyf3r To build your career you need those advances from labels. How else you could focus on creating music and your artistic persona? It's bullshit that you could do all by yourself

    • @abffyf3r
      @abffyf3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@swiatlowiekuiste unless you just that damn lucky and even still you need a distribution deal

  • @bsquare5665
    @bsquare5665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You speaking facts bro I plan on grinding independent even tho it’s considered more ground work but the reward is great once see the outcome

  • @rdegraciamusic
    @rdegraciamusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks God I was extremely ignored when I was active in the music business in my country. Now I don´t get a lot of money but everything I make is mine...

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  • @zenbyo
    @zenbyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not even a music creator but i stumbled on one your vids and these different takes on how the industry works is so interesting. Salute.

  • @NBlack-zh4hx
    @NBlack-zh4hx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That's why they killed Sam Cooke! He was about to start a music publishing company for brown people in the 60's. 🤨

  • @aboveorbit
    @aboveorbit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could see my label and Dorian partnering together. His rants give me chills. That’s the law of attraction working. Thank you God. And thank you Dorian for being a vessel my brother!

    • @malikabuz
      @malikabuz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I agree! He is calling it like it is!! With passion! Gets me riled up and pissed off too! These label suckers got to go! 😤

  • @lastking235
    @lastking235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    People laughed, but Tyler Perry owns his Madea Movie and Music Masters... That's why he's a Billionaire with the biggest studio in the world. Beating 100yr old companies like Universal.
    Masters, Masters, Masters... Ownership, Ownership, Ownership.

  • @Flip384
    @Flip384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Folk be signing these slave contracts, & end up not owning "anything" these labels placate to people who come from dire circumstances, offer them a few dollars, & some notoriety next thing you know the artist have to tour their whole entire lives in order to pay the bills. Ownership is key, now with technology & social media you No longer need a label, you now can promote your art anywhere & it'll reach millions of people within seconds.

  • @robertpalmerjr1967
    @robertpalmerjr1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Real talk young cat.... I've been doing music since the late 80s and through out the 90s and refused to give up my masters then...if we've had the internet then ,it would of been a different case .. I'm not mad at you fam,, you keeps it real.. luv what you young cats are doing,, much respect to you.. continue to teach and wake our people up.....

  • @orlandoturner8687
    @orlandoturner8687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    100% facts that's why they kill some artists off because they try to get what's rightfully their's that's why i respect Nipsey so much he had his masters

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  • @kirkstate
    @kirkstate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I cosign everything you said bro 💯💯ownership over everything

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  • @hersafari
    @hersafari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The devil is a liar. When you sign that contract, you're selling your soul to the devil. You will be bound and a slave forever. That's why they're working their hearts out and getting nothing in return. Guys, just turn your lives to Jesus Christ!!!

  • @ehustleproductions4049
    @ehustleproductions4049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    That was great advice and funny as shit too!! LMAO!!!

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Appreciate you lol. You subscribe

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  • @quintonguidryb1-fba
    @quintonguidryb1-fba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    : May this info be of some worth to future artists.
    [True Story]
    They almost got me back in the 80s.
    I signed a contract (when I didn't know any better) which included granting the label MY publishing for $1.
    That's right, one dollar.
    I had an older uncle look over the contract. His only advice was, "you gotta get your foot in the door somehow".
    I didn't realize he was hating on me bc he was a so-called musician back in his day and didn't get anywhere.
    Well, in the end, I refused to record with them and just waited out my contract (4 years wasted).
    FYI: Always get:
    1) A an entertainment lawyer;
    2) An accountant;
    3) A business manager/agent

  • @ohshititsghost7622
    @ohshititsghost7622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "Acquisition of new talent"
    That line alone made me cringe...

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  • @mohd_allearz8403
    @mohd_allearz8403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jeez your sub count is increasing. Love seeing a brother doing good for other people. This mess needs to be heard

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Post content everyday and people will show up. Glad y’all locking in.

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  • @mostylz4613
    @mostylz4613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad I discovered your platform. I’m an Ohio rap artist and would love to work with you. Keep spreading the knowledge! ✊🏾✌🏾

    • @MoBay876rc
      @MoBay876rc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @blazemike732
    @blazemike732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the channel bro 👌 great content keep it coming! 💯

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  • @ProdbyNeevo
    @ProdbyNeevo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hahaha....great content, information and delivery bro. Much love from KENYA

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I gotta get to the motherland. Follow me on IG @doriangroup82

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  • @DephreeDog
    @DephreeDog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just recently had a label offer me a few grand for 50% of my new album... I said hell na!

  • @Young_Zealous
    @Young_Zealous ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro the passion you had for this made me read the whole description and I never read TH-cam descriptions

  • @smashville7303
    @smashville7303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    just caught wind of the video great content btw, its also sad that the artist gets pennies compared to these major labels

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  • @blackkatt2301
    @blackkatt2301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Notice,the 2008 Sony fire,destroyed all the Masters of old black artist music that's not in play anymore after they have ate off those artist for year's.

  • @timg.3326
    @timg.3326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *The main problem we artist face, is the fact that the major labels have the 'distribution-reach' and access to the promo machine, that we (and the small independents) just don't have. They also have the $$ to inject initially upfront to break the artist into the comme3r4cial mainstream. So without them, it is next to impossible to go it alone, without getting into bed with the devil.*

  • @Prynceyomi
    @Prynceyomi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your stuff man. A fan n supporter for sure from Ghana West Africa

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate you bro. You follow on IG too? @doriangroup82

  • @anythinggoesviral
    @anythinggoesviral 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yup that’s why they killed Michael for his

  • @omarspaulding6858
    @omarspaulding6858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brother you're right on, they are pimping those ignorant artist.

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  • @harlembrown8987
    @harlembrown8987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yo...this is 100!! No 360 record deals. These people r demonic!!

  • @broluxgigantos89
    @broluxgigantos89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't get it.
    No one makes you sign contracts. No one tells you to take the advance, buy jewelry, houses, cars...etc.

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  • @burnastelo1429
    @burnastelo1429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "that should be your grand daughter" bruh that caught me so off gaurd holy shit that was funny

    • @CEEBrown
      @CEEBrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That whole bit had my stomach hurting from laughing. 😂 The slides to go with it did not help! 😂😂😂

  • @newsoundsharmon7085
    @newsoundsharmon7085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You right. That's ashame.😢 Ppl. Have to be smarter in life. Be lifted 🙏

  • @nofrenno8780
    @nofrenno8780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Forgot about the money they put into real estate to be written off of tax ..but u got good content broskii

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  • @frankestrada4963
    @frankestrada4963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To make matters worse, many of those record labels are irresponsible with the handling and safekeeping of the master tapes. Anyone recall that massive fire at Universal’s backlot back in ‘08? Thousands of masters perished.

  • @DippedInInk
    @DippedInInk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pure facts. U just gave ppl FREE GAME.

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate that. And folks still complain smh. did you subscribe?

  • @internationalhiphopscreenw7866
    @internationalhiphopscreenw7866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Word. A change is necessary

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  • @TheRealestIdealist
    @TheRealestIdealist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

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  • @SammysmSoulGlow
    @SammysmSoulGlow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When I see videos on this subject, I think of late great Sam Cooke.

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why is that?

    • @SammysmSoulGlow
      @SammysmSoulGlow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sam Cooke was one of the greatest soul singers ever who was murdered under very mysterious circumstances back in 1964. He owned his own masters which at that time was unheard of for a black artist. When he found our his manager illegally stole his rights he threatened to sue. A couple of days later he ended up dead in a cheap motel

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  • @josephmcdonald9933
    @josephmcdonald9933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My man you took the words right.out of my mouth. I sub off of that alone

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  • @lilmel9514
    @lilmel9514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dope video bro, Can you make a video about artist and publishing

  • @davidfontdevilarobles1505
    @davidfontdevilarobles1505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What would u say if u invested in apple when they where working in the garage, and now they be like "u aint in the building helping us out with no technology or anything, so all the shares u bought back then, that are making u money now... yeah those we taking it back"???

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  • @ZA_LovesHouseMusic86
    @ZA_LovesHouseMusic86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm gonna play my part out here in South Afrika !!!! thank you my brother for the enlightenment

  • @sanzrich9887
    @sanzrich9887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video, bro. Great..great content. I'm glad I waited to pursue a record deal now after watching this video. Word. Respect

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s our time to do it all of ourselves

  • @rayandreapittman7251
    @rayandreapittman7251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video bro. I learned alot. Miles Davis record got me tight too!

  • @songwriterconcepts
    @songwriterconcepts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    lmao 😂 bruh keep it RAW 💪🏾❤️❤️❤️

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everyday lol

    • @charlesjohnson3367
      @charlesjohnson3367 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @moseswilliams4891
    @moseswilliams4891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blessings bro!!!

  • @patrickmuhammad8799
    @patrickmuhammad8799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you family.

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  • @khufu23_
    @khufu23_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My guy you droppin knowledge fr this just made me wanna go harder for this independent shit we need to take our power back as the artist 💯

  • @tevinjohns5965
    @tevinjohns5965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is how everything works. Industry exploits your skills, give you the most work and the least compensation.

  • @lastsinner4606
    @lastsinner4606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy is dropping 💎's! Pay attention to people with knowledge! Love the channel

  • @MegaKingTom
    @MegaKingTom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Didn’t the king of pop owned a lot of sonys masters?

    • @lykedady72
      @lykedady72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yep and they had something to do with his death. Shortly after MJ's death Sony reacquired the publishing MJ owed. They paid 750 million for it but MJ most likely would have never sold if he never died. They were responsible for the repeated child molestation charges as well.

    • @ryansaunders65
      @ryansaunders65 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You only become crazy and convicted in the court of media when you try to get or control your own chit... See Ye... MJ... Prince...

    • @lykedady72
      @lykedady72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lee Lee And you know even less.

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  • @michaelgray4416
    @michaelgray4416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the attitude. Spot on.

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  • @robfraser33
    @robfraser33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah I want my OWN great grand daughter snorting.... lmao

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  • @yusef9662
    @yusef9662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peace big brother that’s exactly what’s up true and exact, hopefully the artists will listen

  • @ImmortalTrainingOfficial
    @ImmortalTrainingOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “It should be your grand daughter” 😂😂

  • @Joybuzzard
    @Joybuzzard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's worse than they say. The extortion is blatant. They punished bands for going independent. The major labels colluded for years with music media and radio networks so that once a band had been signed by a major label, they can't go back, if they go independent they get buried no matter how big they were at the time.
    In the 1970s, one of the biggest artists was Frank Zappa, he was so popular that the song 'Smoke On The Water' mentions him by name, millions and millions of records sold. But at a certain point he acquired his own masters and went independent, so you never hear his songs on 'classic rock' radio, music publications wouldn't mention his name, if a new artist cited him as an influence or mentioned touring with him they'd edit it out because they wanted to erase his name from the public memory. So we hear 'classic' artists today that didn't sell a tenth of what Zappa did, but barely hear a word about Zappa unless you look for it.
    Then there was Janes Addiction. They were so huge, the first Lolapalooza was literally Jane's Addictions tour, they started it, their songs were everywhere from 1988-1992, they were a huge influence on every 'grunge' band in the 90s, but that influence was erased by music media for years, no airplay, no mention in the many 'best of the 90s' type articles.
    So back then, if you were on a major label and you managed to acquire your masters, they would just bury you, you wouldn't make the same amount of money the label would have because the songs wouldn't get any airplay. No Matter how popular. We live in better times.

  • @mohd_allearz8403
    @mohd_allearz8403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Something most people don't seem to understand

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  • @missblak00
    @missblak00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I felt this in my soul‼️ 💯💯💯

  • @abran-el
    @abran-el 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't support we gotta stop but it's hard the system has to change we making them rich

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  • @Young_Zealous
    @Young_Zealous ปีที่แล้ว

    This should be your top viewed video I really feel like family whenever you said all this. Motivated the hell out of me

  • @fkumean6809
    @fkumean6809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man u the Fuking truth Raw uncensored uncut been waitng on this one Stay real Player and be safe Peace

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  • @bigpluck51
    @bigpluck51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All my life I used to dream of signing with a major label & being happy. Today? FUNK THAT! Prince already showed us the way!
    It's time we all band together & put the big record labels out of business!

  • @PeachtreeFrenchies
    @PeachtreeFrenchies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thing is bra the artist didn't have to sign the contract. Warren G had family members in the industry why would he agree to give them up?

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  • @jerryh6284
    @jerryh6284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said it right brother! That weasel in the beginning, pissed me off!

  • @stevea9963
    @stevea9963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sony has been suspected of killing their artists for their masters.

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  • @jbmjayy
    @jbmjayy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “This video just pissed me off”
    Me: (Subscribed‼️)😂😂🤣

  • @ran2j722
    @ran2j722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They all worried about putting money to their ears instead of having investments someone needs to b the go to guy for knowledge

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  • @ndagger8
    @ndagger8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the intro set-up.
    Then you came in while I was cussing.
    Facts!!!

  • @tarilasofiyea3238
    @tarilasofiyea3238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I just wanted to let anyone who sees this know that a God loves them and that it’s not too late to give their lives to Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior 🙏❤️✝️

  • @ChiefIzzy229
    @ChiefIzzy229 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's crazy how we don't place enough blame on those that sell or give away their masters. It's a cycle that starts with the artists or songwriters. They must understand the process and procedure of this music business & if not, they will get the negative end of the deal just as all other deals. Educate yourself, people & remove your feelings.

  • @michaelmiller3102
    @michaelmiller3102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this channel 👍🏾🇧🇸 🔥 entertaining

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate you bro. You follow on IG too? @doriangroup82

  • @williamhudson2815
    @williamhudson2815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's why prince fought for artistic rights. And wrote slave on his face he was protesting against the record labels

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was ahead of the game.

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  • @symphonybarbers8237
    @symphonybarbers8237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great information for anybody in the music business, always think Big Picture!

    • @DorianGroup82
      @DorianGroup82  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🦆🦆🦆🦆

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  • @ethecreator333
    @ethecreator333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    After the intro when you started swearing I subscribed 😂 these folks mad greedy bro