Apparently @MindUnveiled made a response video to this. Lot of their supporters in my comments saying I “got cooked”. I’ll be live reacting to his video on Twitch on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday of next week. 6pm-9pm EST. If you’re one of his, you’re welcome to join. I’ll happily take your questions. Oh, and tell him to come on the live show. We’d love to discuss live, and since y’all seem to think I have him pegged wrong and that I’m too arrogant to recognize my own flaws, I don’t see how it could go badly for him. He’s right, isn’t he?
It's amazing you got 90k views with this lol Imagine if someone who wasn't short and ugly just read Wikipedia like this they would probably have 200k by now!
@@nly4607 it’s very telling that all of Mind Unveiled’s supporters are either saying I’m ugly, fat, or Jewish, but none have presented a single counter argument to any point made in this video.
@@danhorne76 nope, they discussed the Russian suppression of the Muslim Tartar ethnic group, which still exists to this day both in and outside of Russia. This is super simple, easy stuff to find.
Regardless of what one believes, I found this video to be rather interesting and helpful. To the issue of "hidden" or "untrue" history, I believe there is a degree of that going on. After all, history is written by the victors with the victors' mindset and goals in mind. But, overall, history, as it is taught in the US is pretty straightforward. PS: You channeled my history teacher when you described the Holy Roman Empire.
My high school history teacher was so passionate about history, and I watched him die inside pretty much every day because he had to teach to a standardized test. Which was essentially just remembering names and dates. I always felt really bad for him. He would get so excited when he'd find an excuse to actually talk about history.
@lowwastehighmelanin I'm not sure what he does now. He may be retired. I had his class in 2017, and he had already been teaching quite a while. I hope he has joy in what he does now, whether he's retired or not. Edit: also, his name was Mr. Ferguson. We called him Fergie Fresh. He was a cool guy.
Tartaria is Phoenicia, which fell at the time of Christ. Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes). In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance. The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam. Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism. It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world. In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra. El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia. It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus. The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Alter of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu. The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Resurrection was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The King is Dead, long live the King.) Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea. The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC. _Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the dragon, Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19. The name "Pharoah" means "Great House" or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic. "As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila. The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on. Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island. The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Ur Shalom, City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years. Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar" When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze. Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
When people say that we aren't capable of building things like the Romans, I'm pretty sure they're talking about the fact that when we build things out of concrete, they have serious erosion damage after only a few decades. Yet things like the Colosseum and Pantheon have stood for 2000 years. We only found out fairly recently how Roman concrete has the ability to 'fix' itself, its got big chunks of lime in it that react with water to fill in any holes.
@@TheUglyBiker42069 In addition, Roman concrete is extremely unsuitable to use in conjunction with rebar in modern reinforced concrete. The common claim that Roman concrete is stronger than modern concrete is technically true, but that's without the rebar. With rebar, Roman concrete preforms far worse, and you can't build large (and I mean skyscraper large) constructions with it, despite its longevity.
I think John Dee taking out the entire Spanish Armada with an obsidian mirror taken from the Aztecs is a strong indication that if you didn’t have a court magician you didn’t deserve to be a kingdom in the first place.
@@fredjohnson9833 He didn't actually do that, specifically. It was something the peasants came to believe and used as an example of his witchcraft to justify destroying his house and research. He did help plan the naval strategy that resulted in the British victory and sea domination that followed, he also had a bunch of new world curios that included an obsidian mirror. The uneducated masses around him conflated the two due to timing of him collecting the mirror and the victory over the Spanish some weeks later. It was basically believed that nothing could defeat the Spanish Armada at the time, so supernatural intervention was blamed instead of the British ambushing the Armada piecemeal before it could gather up and attack as a group. It was a long chain of the entire British Fleet versus one to five Spanish Armada ships over and over until there weren't any Armada ships left to sink. To keep Spain from regrouping, none of these victories were announced until they were all destroyed, making it seem like they won with a fleet less than a tenth the size. Ergo, the wizard must have did it. I don't know why the mirror was involved in the story, there's no real explanation except that he got it shortly before the announcement. In fact, I think it was probably retrieved from one of the Spanish ships as loot because where else would he have gotten an Aztec artifact from at the time? Edit: It was from a book about Robert Dudley and his affair, it was just a footnote about how John Dee was ousted from his residence and forced to flee to the palace 'at the time'. It even notes in the book that while it's the reason the peasants rose up, it's also nonsense as he wasn't even there while the naval war was ongoing. I can't remember the name, it was something like Elizabeth and Leichester?
@@Trivial_Whim Dee was a fascinating man; as was Kelly (his scryer/assistant); Robert Fludd, Roger Bacon... All the alchemists and occultists and magicians of the past, particularly the Medieval to Enlightenment eras really were fascinating people. They did a lot of incredible things, even according to what most regard as legitimate history. Still, many of their feats were apocryphal at best. I believe this particular story ultimately stems from the ancient legend of Archimedes defending Syracuse by using mirror-polished shields to set fire to the Roman fleet.
My wife is full blooded Tartar. When this misguided conspiracy came out, I had fun telling proponents of it this fact. Of course few of them even knew of the actual ethnic group in Russia, so they assumed I was married to an Atlantian-type woman lol.
@@wlodek8757 yeah the president of the tartars met with Russia in 2017 and Putin Gave him a map made by William Bleu, a renowned dutch cartographer did he not?
This vid is a wonderful example of, when in our "gullible people believe the weirdest things" world, those who know nothing about stuff are easily refuted by those who actually know a whole lot about stuff. Well done Aiden! I knew nothing about this but as usual, you've taught me about the subject in a way that's super interesting and informative.
@@bentheten874 Actually you have a really good point; it is always good to do your own research. However, their point was he explains the details really well and in depth to make it consumable and takes 10+ hours of reading into 1-2 hour videos, but to add more points to Lore Lodge's credit he brings up actual known sources when applicable, when he doesn't what he says can be fact checked easily with more then 2 minutes of searching and those sources can be fact checked by checking where the info comes from or he states it is his opinion based on the known facts, when he has got something wrong in the past he has admitted it which is more then I can say for any conspiracy theorists I've met(which is is way more then I'd like), and he discredits the sources used to "prove" what he is explaining the reality behind instead of just telling them to believe his point, so even if they don't agree with his point they understand that the other belief is still wrong because the basis of their idea just doesn't work. So overall if you're going to blindly follow what someone online tells you and it's between one trying to get you to believe everything historians have found to be as accurate as they can get for this moment in time is just wrong and they are all idiots despite actually studying it and doing the research or the man who never goes out of his way to make crazy claims, explains all of his points clearly without accidentally discrediting other things he's said before hand, admits when he's wrong, tells people when he is unqualified for talking on the next subject due to being further out from his general knowledge, he also tells people when what he is saying is unproven and just his conclusion with the proven evidence he has found, and to top it all off he is just overall really consistent with what he's saying. I'd take my chances with the latter. Now I personally do neither, I just find these types of videos very interesting and enjoy his content because he goes in depth and when it does catch my interest I do more research myself which he makes easier with sources related to specifically what he's talking about and only using easily checked facts. See I base my reality off of what I can visually know, because obviously, or what I have gone out of my way to understand, the idea behind it, where it comes from and any opposing ideas then follow what I feel is correct with the most evidence and general believability. I'm a heavily distrustful person and my sisters manipulated multiple people when I was a kid so I'm good at spotting the signs of untrustworthy information or just people.
Dude saying someone else is wrong doesn't make you right. His whole argument is just personal conjecture and without obsessively "disproving" other people has no actual argument or proof even and everything he says is a guess or probability he concludes. He Goes "this guy thinks this but he's wrong because of x, and this other guy thinks a different thing but he's wrong because of y, then he cherry picks things that closely resemble one another and makes personal anecdotes and opinions about them by changing them to construct his narrative and saying everyone is wrong and what I have decided is truth. He extrapolates his reasons from Any and every source imaginable throughout history and uses Google to support his ideas when in reality the people from the area he is discussing would all have different and varying truths and recollections and histories...he hasn't shown any proof for anything. He just shows someone else's opinion with some pictures someone else drew or painted and goes , this is common sense and obviously this happened because it's possible and no one else can be right because of something someone else says..without the use of someone else's opinion to disprove another person's opinion, he literally has no proof and simply says obviously "this didn't happen, but sometimes it does, and even those so and so has a real good point that actually supports itself with modern notions and understandings of evil people and events and groups that have every reason to lie and had the power to rewrite history, simply saying the persons ideas while shaking your head left and right and squinting your eyes is enough proof to dismiss them completely and use whatever theory he found most plausible based off his Google searches
I told my sister you did a video on the tartaria “theory” and she having never heard of it said “is that where we get the name of tartar sauce?” And I laughed so hard I almost choked on a soda.
@@janemiettinen5176 That's actually a legit argument for Tartaria. Some day, after the next reset, someone will be eating Yorkshire pudding, and the lightbulb will light up over his head. Everyone else will call him crazy to suggest that an island nation could have been at one time the global super power that claimed that the sun never set on their flag.
I absolutely love the Tartaria myth because it really puts on display how far some people will carry their desire to have a hidden, secret truth, no matter how ridiculous their idea becomes.
And it's funny because when there are actual important things that are being suppressed or kept hidden and even when there's evidence you're still called a schizo.
My brother seems to think this is real, but got very angry when I pointed out that if you are going to erase history and change things, how do you miss everything but maps? Maps would be the first thing you would change or get rid of.
I've always liked this theory in a kind of creepypasta or monument mythos kind of way, it's just really interesting to see how they form connections between things that aren't actually connected and at first glance seems fairly plausible if you just refuse to look into any of it. The worst thing about it is that there is almost no actual information that really explains anything, just a bunch of "if you know you know" and showing random pictures without any context, description or explanation and saying "see, I told you!". They need to work on that
What got me interested in history, was my 8th grade history teacher. We where learning about WWII and everyone walked in to class one day to find that the teacher had turned the class into a mini battlefield. The tables created trenches on both sides of the room and the middle was no man's land. We had to throw paper balls at the opposing side, and anyone that got hit was considered dead and had to go stand in the hall. I pretty sure it was just an excuse to goof off but it made learning about a graphic time in history a little more barrable for a bunch of middle schoolers.
That's the kind of teachers we need now. I had teachers back in the 60's that would do that! I was fortunate to grow up on a peninsula in VA. So got to go on field trips to Yorktown where Cornwallis surrendered to Washington and there's still buildings with cannon balls in the walls and Jamestown and colonial Williamsburg. I highly recommend these places to this day to take kids on vacation. I'm 63 now but when I was young there was still the remains of an Indian village on the banks of the York River which was way cool. Colonial parkway between youktown and wbg. You can still see remnants of original homesites. Pretty awesome
Not only does he turn into a salmon but he is made human again when the daughter or wife of the king EATS his salmon form and becomes pregnant and births him "reborn" but he has all the knowledge of his past "life" and relays the whole thing yo the king. That legend is wild Istg
I think the druid thing comes from how romans did target them, but it was because druids were the history and storykeepers of their tribes essentially, wipe out the history of a tribe makes it a hell of a lot easier to assimilate them into your empire and lessens chance of revolts.
It's more a part of their killing of authority figures in the conquered, as most cultures never separeted religious and political power (faz and ius) at least not fully. So killing isolated priests was easy enough to avoid future rebellions the could theoretically lead.
Fun fact about the Seattle image that he used, all of Seattle used to be one floor below where it currently stands. When Seattle was first built, it was done so by people with no understanding of engineering or city planning, so the city would flood whenever it rained. After the great Seattle fire that burned 33 blocks of the city, they decided to rebuild it properly. So they started literally piling on dirt until the streets were about ten feet higher than before, this gave the city a "waffle iron" appearance, where the streets were considerably higher than the sidewalks. This became a problem because people would fall off the road to their deaths on the sidewalks below. The city officially dubbed these deaths "Involuntary Suicide" This problem was solved by building new sidewalks at street-level, and paving them with glass in some sections so light could still get into the original sidewalks below. While most shops just moved their store-fronts up a floor, some couldn't afford it and stayed below, and soon the underground became a haven for anything "disorderly"
@ 1:19:42 Here in my home of Baltimore, MD. is a little known "Star Fort", known as "Ft. McHenry". Although I'm not sure what year the fort was built.(EDIT: After looking it up it was built in 1798 ) I can say it was already there when a certain man by the name of Francis Scott Key wrote this fairly obscure poem while he was on a British ship just off the coast, while the fort was being attacked. Meanwhile, a certain (quite enormous) US Flag which flew over Ft. McHenry, caught his eye (which incidentally, IS STILL THERE!!!). And Key watched on, as the British Navy bombarded this, STAR FORT...(So heavily though the night. The bombs were even bursting in mid air) This was during the War of 1812. Some keen historians may actually know the poem he wrote that night. It was later put to music, and titled: "The Star Spangled Banner" All jokes aside, growing up within 7 miles of Ft. McHenry (at times even closer, less than one mile away) Anyone in this City (Well, at least some of the residents of Baltimore, I'd be willing to bet a decent percentage... at the very least a couple other people besides just me! The "Groundskeepers anyway definitely know the truth! :P LOL) can tell you "Star Forts" have been around for well over 200 years at the very least. Also, The Civil War, which just to be thorough, kinda sorta started at Ft. Sumpter,.. yet ANOTHER STAR FORT in South Carolina. So how can these so-called star forts, be from the American Civil War, when the war started at an existing "Star Fort"???
I think the idea that the Irish originally came from Atlantis was thought up by Robert E. Howard as part of his Conan stories. And Howard never claimed that any of this was real.
I think it probably wasn’t helped by the fact that we have our own island flood myth of Hy Brasil, these people may have seen it as “proof” because it was so close in old maps to Ireland
Ever heard of Doggerland? I suggest you look it up. You might be surprised. Edit: To clarify, I'm not suggesting an Ireland-Doggerland connection, just that Howard's sunken land in Northern Europe has a basis in fact which influenced myth and legend.
I feel like Tartaria is basically America’s “middle earth” but they were way too lazy to flesh it out into a fun story with characters so it just sort of got pooped out onto the internet.
Perhaps at first glance, if you don't really look into the multitude of different offshoots from this one badly entitled genre. If you find good creators and there are many and go back and watch many of their videos, many things just cannot be explained away. Trust me, I knew nothing of this but once I watched several credible videos and began doing my own deep dives into a myriad of subjects that which are oddly all related surprisingly, I couldn't just write this off as something that 'just sort of got pooped out onto the internet.' There's a lot more to this than mere poop...trust me. I hate poop but find some of these topics, certainly not all and definitely NOT the creator showcased here. I thought I knew most creators but he's awful. There are far better ones which I've mentioned in several comments above. But I'm not here to convince anyone. If you've actually given it a fair look... like hearing more than this dude but several creators who discuss so many connected subjects and you still find it doesn't resonate at all. That's ok, it's not for you but, it doesn't mean that it's internet poop or all full of BS. Kindest regards to everyone, LC
Tartaria is basically just pro-Putin propaganda because I’ve seen so many Tartaria believers support Putin and his invasion of Ukraine because they believe he’s going to restore Tartaria. Kinda funny when you realize the last time someone tried to build a nation of racially superior peoples by invading neighboring countries was back in the 40s by Hitler… so not exactly a very good look for all those Tartaria believers because they’re literally shilling the 21st century equivalent of Hitler according to their beliefs.
In repsonse to the end of your video, I think that historians need to give legitimate arguments like the ones you gave here. I appreciate you taking things point by point and explaining, at least in some detail, *why* they were wrong. A lot of times, I just see people smugly say that conspiracies are obviously wrong and thats that. But when you're talking to someone who whole heartedly believes a conspiracy, you telling them they're obviously wrong just serves to make them resent you and boldens their beliefs. New to your channel, and I followed the channel for the fun creepy time lore videos, but I hope to see more like this one!
Best part about these ridiculous theories is that when you call them out about not citing any sources they turn around and say its because all the sources were obfuscated or destroyed.
If it is all true and the people that rule over us don't want us to know, of course they would use their extensive powers to hide/destroy any evidence.
But is that not exactly what someone trying to hide something would do. I’ll use JFK as an example. The video of the other angle of his shooting showing the grassy knoll was “lost” while it was in CIA possession. Not saying Tartaria is real but obviously the people in control destroy anything that would ruin their reputation or alter how we perceive them.
They burned down all the major libraries of ancient written chronicles around the world. They burned down the Libraries of Alexandria. The Romans confiscated what manuscrpts were remaining under the Vatican. True or not? What are they hiding and why? They burned down all the cities for a reason.
I’m completely ignorant about most everything you talked about, but as someone who absolutely despises people thinking that their ability to use a search engine gives their opinions as much validity as those who devote their ENTIRE LIVES to study and research, I absolutely love this.
I hate those kinds of people. I have gotten into arguments with this guy who basically worships Google. He will say something outlandish, I will say that's not true, and then he googles some vague thing, and go's, "Google says this, I'm right" without actually understanding what's being said. It's really annoying when someone knows nothing about a topic, and thinks they know all about it.
@@Dade-xo9xt What is “the wrong thing” exactly? Do you mean being over-reliant on a single “wrong” theory or something? You make zero sense. If you’re going to insinuate that he’s somehow researching “the wrong thing” - cite an example so that the rest of us know what you’re talking about. Dumb, ambiguous statements are not arguments. Sorry.
@@yugij0319the pandemic was absolutely ripe with uneducated people looking at cherry-picked examples of raw data that they had no idea how to interpret and then choosing that as a hill to die on. 2020-2022 came with the realization that there is an entire world of functional idiots who were so attached to their confirmation bias that they would let it put them in a hospital bed fighting for their lives on a respirator. Ugh.
@mansquatch7433 There was nothing dumb and ambiguous about my statement at all. I'm sorry you didn't have the capacity to comprehend it, so I'll elaborate. You come off as bit emotional, and I understand that you're not particularly a person who appreciates when someone disagrees with you. My point is that just because you devote your whole life to researching something doesn't necessarily mean that the information that you accumulate is inherently 100% correct. That is basically science. It's for the most part theories based on our own perception of reality and heavily marginalised by our limited senses and our own indoctrination. How do I know? Well, you can easily find someone who agrees with your initial comment (like the one above), but I can just as easily find someone who would disagree, meaning that it's easy to assume or suggest something exists as a basis for reasoning, discussion or belief. I assume you don't have any peer reviewed studies published to back your claims either, so if you want to make such a bold statement that suggests that anyone who disagrees with you are ignorant, then the burden of proof is just as much yours as anyone elses. Do better, buddy👌🏽
Aiden: *speaking of Theosophy* "I still don't totally understand it" Me, as an over 10-year researcher of the occult: "Nah, you understand it perfectly" If Theosophy makes sense, you're a Theosophist. If it doesn't, grats, you're more normal than you thought. Personally I'd rather salute Thelema over Theosophy. Although I still wouldn't recommend shaking their hand.
Someday there will be another global collapse and then hundreds of years later someone will dig up the Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones books with maps and will argue that there was an ancient lost civilization and here's what the world used to look like!
Okay, let’s look at it from his theory view for a second. The forts were already there because Tartaria built them. That means that Tartaria had to defend its coastline from an enemy that was attacking from the sea… My god I figured it out! It was those damn pesky sea people again! First they caused the Bronze Age Collapse and then they disappeared only to resurface and sack Tartaria! We need to counter invade and take their capital of Ry’leah before they decide to end civilization again! I bet they sank Atlantis too!
The Sea People were Mongols. Mongols and Ta(r)tars are ancient East Asian civilizations that have been aroune for a long while. They evolved into Tartarians after sometime. The Mongol Khaganate was a remnant of Tartaria. Mongolia and Tartaria were the same thing.
Errrm, bro, Gaelic is actually an ancient language directly related to Hebrew. Go look into the Irish (not Celt) DNA and the Middle East. Also look into The Tuatha De. Read the opening paragraphs of the Scottish Declaration of Arbroath. Then who the Scythians/Cimmerians/Khumry were and where they travelled from and to. Have a fun dig.
@@dr.2335Talking about Scythians, are you trying to say that Irish people are of turkik origin? 🤣🤣🤣 And I thought that only we, Hungarians, of all European nations are of turkik origins. So, all the DNA scientists, linguists, and historians are wrong?
@@balazsvarga1823 Just because you miss spell it doesn't change intent white shows your true colors.stinkin thinkin of the wyhit man jeez None us know how deep this goes we are all humans just different shades of BEAUTIFUL. Grow up.stpp drinking the Kool aid but never stop seeking the whole truth. That means watch read listen to all views but it still may not be while truth's
1:30:51 I actually have a very cynical perspective on the average person's take on history, kind of bordering on conspiracy theory honestly, but it's one I do truly believe in. The main gist is this; *public schooling, at least in the United States, purposefully makes history as bland and vague as possible with a number of techniques, one of them teaching geography before even going onto history of any kind.* Now, what I mean by the second part of that sentence is not to discredit geography; I myself am on my way to becoming an Egyptologist and obviously understand the importance of geography, especially human geography. The problem is that most teenagers don't and pushing the more technical side of our fields almost signals a deliberate tone-deafness to it all. For example, if it wasn't for my already existing love for world history and human sociology, I'm almost 99% sure that because I was forced to take either world geography or human geography before even touching world history in freshman year, I would've become completely turned off by the entire subject and it's overlapping fields altogether. Its essentially forcing a 5th grader to do quadratic formulas before they even understood long division; it's reductive, makes a lot of people confused and frustrated, and then you have generation after generation of people being apathetic to their surroundings and the human conditions around them. Not to mention of course, that a lot of history/social studies classes are optional in most cases so it really does to show how much the government really doesn't want you informed on the causes and effects of what happened in the past. History repeating itself has got to be one of the truest phrase ever uttered by man.
Then you went to a weird school, we never had to do any history before world history in 7th grade. And I'll be honest I've never even heard of human geography, I went to a rural Iowa school, and everyones favorite class besides p.e was history
I went to school in canada, graduated high school in 2017. I can only say that if we ever learned world history at any point in school, I don’t remember it. It was basically twelve years of “social studies” (that’s what they call it here” and it was literally just learning about the colonization of canada and the fur trade. Over and over. For twelve years. Canadians don’t know shit about world history unless they take it upon themselves to learn it.
Small pedantic gripe - wood is in fact a conductor of electricity if it's wet or even damp, and even when dry, it can still conduct at high enough voltages. The latter is usually only an issue when dealing with powerlines. But it's important to know if you're going to be messing with anything electrical and things are wet - that wood isn't safe to touch). But that is actually why you can see St. Elmo's fire on wooden ship masts and church steeples - because it generally only appears during storms, when the wood would be wet (and the pointy shape of them allows the energy to sort of concentrate in a small area. But church spires are still definitely not power stations or whatever these people believe.
Yep, its why you wanna cut down or trim any tree growths near electric fences for example, because if you dont the electric fences will just be regular fences.
OH MY GOD I am 30 minutes in and I realize that guy is literally just using the lore from Conan the Barbarian. The Cimmerians were the ancient ancestors of the Irish, who were the descendants of Atlantis. It sounds so much like the Hyborian age.
Do not try to reason with Americans, they are a silly folk. I know you are right. But they'll never believe you, as that would mean aknowledging how far they have fallen in the last half century.
Looking at that phrase that was written on the Map by Urbano Monti, you have to remember that Italy unified in 1861, and prior to that, the Italian peninsula was made up of many smaller countries that spoke their own italic langauge, such as neapolitan, sicilian, Lombard, ect. The modern Italian language is basically just the Tuscan dialect. Now considering Urbano Monti was born and raised in Milan, you could probably make more sense of that word if you were to find someone that speaks Lombard or studies the Lombard Language. Also remember that Lombard is Gallo-Italic and Tuscan is Italo-Dalmatian.
Yeah, I would’ve loved to have a solid translation on that one. I looked at a couple of 16th and 17th century italian dictionaries and couldn’t find anything in there or on wiktionary. I’ll see if any of my professors know a Lombard specialist
@@TheLoreLodgeYou could reach out to the gentleman of the channel Metatron. You could consider him a history channel. He has often spoken on the importance of correct translations as well as understanding usage of words in the context of their time. He is a Sicilian man, very knowledgeable in the history of Ancient Rome. He puts a lot of research into his work. He has done videos on different biblical topics. What can or can not be cross references to other written histories, in other languages,of the past. It's almost 4am I fear I am explaining poorly as I am finally getting sleepy... From what he has mentioned, I bet he could find you the right person. If still interested. Cool channel regardless. (Yours is too,sir)
@@juliannacolombo5584great connection, Metatron is a good resource. He does make a lot of effort for translations so I think he could be of some help to Aiden.
I'm an Italian from the Milan region. That writing on the map is definitely standard Italian, not Lombard dialect, which is not too surprising -- it goes back to the time of Dante (1300s) and was already used in writing even if few people spoke it. I agree with the translation given here, but I'm afraid I can't be of any help with "Jesubiri".
@Sam BANKman Heeb lmao dude what? The dude is pretty based, the moment your theory gets debunked you turn into a some goofy liberal claining weird shit lmao
I'm glad you're confronting these theories rather than censoring them. Too many content creators are happy to dismiss alternative ideas WITHOUT walking people through why those ideas are incorrect. Your promotion of critical thinking is very important for developing crucial skills, ex that forts could be and were built on beaches once a stable fountain was laid. Simple, but important. And to be fair, if mind theory does take itself seriously, your critique of their work was devastating. But not cruel. And who really knows, but there is a hint of griftiness put forward by supporters of Tartaria. I wouldn't be surprised if the source was a creative writing experiment mutated into a very roundabout attack against elitist academia, at times known to suppress new information and destroy reputations. You've struck a chord of balance here and it's super refreshing. Thank you so much!
Its so daft you could almost believe it was deliberately written so insanely to check how much it would get cited or something, kind of like how map makers put made up streets on maps so they knew when a competitor copied their work
Love your channel and the way you're doing your research to either debunk other's lies or to present some facts on your own. To tell you the truth, I am very proud of you, because in today's world there are not so many intelligent people as one may think, especially when it comes to young ones. And it is good to show the world that not everyone can be deceived. Great job! PS: I see you're thinking of changing your channel's name to "Redacted." There is another one named like that. It is a news channel with the Morris family.
Now, now. You know darn well that in a few decades or so the public schools will be teaching that D. J. Trump was personally stuffing children into cages on the southern border and leading an armed insurrection into the halls of legislature!
I learned early on not to engage with Tartarianites, as I couldn't eloquently explain and distill 4 years of art and architecture classes to explain how silly the idea is.
I know this is an old vid but I just gotta point out that this is exactly why I love this channel. Accurately relaying solid history which refutes the made-up history done with a ‘just the facts ma’am’ and a wonderful sense of humor. Graham what’s-his-name puts out nice fanciful videos that are watched (by me) for fun and entertainment. I did get a shock though when the person I was watching Graham’s newest offerings with turned to me and announced how amazing his work was and how wrong ‘those in power’ have kept this ‘history’ from the masses. I was floored. Thanks for doing these videos and presenting HISTORY. 😊
Is it possible that you examine the Chicago World's Fair without the Tartaria context? By that I mean the construction aspects of the whole fair; how it was built with temporary materials like timber framing and staff in 2 years, on 690 acres, on a marsh land with 1890s technology. It still baffles me how much effort must have been gone into the foundations of the buildings alone, regardless of how temporary they meant to be, and also the construction of the canals. Not to mention all the production of the materials and infrastructure required to transport the materials on site and to accommodate the construction workers etc.
Yea the worlds fairS as in multiple amazing builds that were temporary but some were in fact kept. Not to mention several buildings were as big as the largest we have currently. No matter what something fishy as hell with americas past and the victor's write history period
Still, we have the San Francisco pan am exposition stuff and the San Diego Balboa Park architecture still standing. It doesn’t really add up that these seemingly sturdy structures get easily burnt down
The Natives knew how to make that kind of stuff years ago..They used rock from Pipestone MN mixed with seaweeds and seawater. You can't use regular water. Seawater keeps the mix from disintegrating fast while setting up. That's pretty much what the Corn Palaces in SD were made of with corn adorning the exterior.
Plus he spoke of the zeppelin aircraft and how the photos of them docking at these towers are supposedly photo-shopped but I've seen photos like this in the library archives so library archived photos are faked. Now why tf would anyone do that?
Small brain: “The Egyptians built the pyramids.” Big brain: “Aliens built the pyramids.” Galaxy brain (and me from now on): “The Irish built the pyramids.”
Lol Reminds me of that Family Guy episode where it showed that the Irish had flying cars and a futuristic society with cures to most diseases, then someone went and invented whisky and the society collapsed in mere minutes.
I majored in music but I've been a lifelong student of history, it's always fascinated me and I've always felt like there's a lot of missing pieces to the story. I honestly believe that somewhere in between what we'd call the mainstream narrative and the wild stories of Tartaria, the theories (not so wild) of guys like Hancock, etc... is the truth. Gobekli Tepe doesn't stand alone. It's part of a complex and it's not even the oldest part of that complex. The Sumerians say some crazy things in the Enuma Elish but it's also strikingly similar to the Bible. It appears to me that most religions tell essentially the same stories with much the same message: strive to be a good person. I think people believe stuff like Tartaria because something inside them tells them that what we know isn't all there is and that the supposed mud floods could almost make sense in the context of the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis. In reality, who really knows?
you also don't explain why they tore down buildings after the world fair.. because if you are saying it was built weakly due to rapid construction then why do the remaining building from the world fair still stand?
Carving huge granite statues in a week ? Building massive glass green houses in a week? Why is the majority of the architecture that involves predominantly Greek and Roman style? Everywhere they go .
The building built for the worlds fairs were not built to be permanent structures. Think of them as “exhibits”. Remember, the absence of answers doesn’t authenticate any viewpoint. Ideas need to be backed by something more than suspicion to be given any attention.
@@clifforddurbin5168 "Eiffel had a permit for the tower to stand for 20 years. It was to be dismantled in 1909, when its ownership would revert to the City of Paris. The city had planned to tear it down (part of the original contest rules for designing a tower was that it should be easy to dismantle) but as the tower proved to be valuable for many innovations in the early 20th century, particularly radio telegraphy, it was allowed to remain after the expiry of the permit, and from 1910 it also became part of the International Time Service."
Does alot of this tartaria stuff stem from the book of jubille after the flood when noahs sons settled in ruins of cities or is this something supposedly more recent?
I gotta say the comments on this video are hilarious and wild, seeing you reply calmly to the rude and insulting people in the comments while also gently helping and offering info on the subject is like watching one of those fight scenes in a movie where the main character fights off like 100 enemies without being touched, it’s honestly great 😂😂😂
@@MikeMichaels1987 right! what do we believe when none of us were actually there? what "knowledge" we have is mostly if not totally someone's idea of what might have happened based on someone else's written works that may have been a completely made up story. even if their story was somewhat true they had their bias so they didn't always see the truth but only what they wanted to.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_chronology_(Fomenko) Fomenko’s New Chronology is the basis for most of the Tartaria hypothesis. Hopeful that rabbithole is explored in another episode. Kinda reminds me of Von Däniken and ancient alien theory. Except for Fomenko’s weapon of choice is mathematics instead of outright bullshittery like Von Däniken.
Aidan that welsh uni u attended was money well spent u know ur stuff ill give u that. I like the variety u have with the vids mixing it up. the lore lodge is one of the few YT channels i look forward to watching.Keep up the good work. All the best from Waterford Ireland, Gach an chuid is fearr
No no, there were three cultures in Ireland. There were the Formian giants, the Tuath De fairies that were at war with the Formians and of course the Fir Bolg who were just kind of there forever without doing anything.
@@AndyR1982same as me. Was told the sun and moon werent real and space didnt exist and the earth was flat with a clear dome around it that we couldnt get through, then was told about tartaria. Didnt know how to properly explain how they were so incorrect it hurt.
@MattBrunson , the best part is that the few people that I have personally met that believe this are atheists..... so when I asked well who built the dome? They say it has always been there. No, nope, sorry. Can't have it both ways. Either the world is a globe and it is plausible either Creation OR the big bang happened. Or the earth is flat, under a dome, in a snow globe on God's desk for 100% Creationism. Because SOMEONE HAD RO BUILD THE DOME.
Weird that he choose the ark as a wmd when Indian traditions have so many depictions of stuff like that that it inspired Oppenheimer to makes nukes (he was quite possibly the most read scholar of these texts in modern history)
Yes India definitely had the absolute best description of wmd from our distant past. However, there are other legends or even events that seem very much like just that. Many locations across the world appear to have been hit by something beyond what we are told they had at the time. Huge structures seem melted or shattered apart...I could go on and on. I did a video about this and the Cathar Castles in France. Moscow, as Napoleon had pretty much conquered the city and was negotiating terms, many described what appeared to be a blinding light suddenly appearing in the sky that they described as a second sun. It struck the 'White City' and levelled a good part of it. The casualties close to the blast must have been devastating. The best account was a French officer and nobleman who watched from his position outside the city and he wrote a detailed account in his diary. They didn't get injured from the blast, however, as they immediately left, heading to safer ground, in the days and weeks to come, their horses began to get sick and die, the men began losing their hair, losing weight , skin issues and several died, which sounds a lot like radiation poisoning. Yet, there's no evidence that the Russians or the French possessed a weaponry that powerful in the 1800s. Especially one that would cause symptoms of radiation poisoning and many deaths. And as for the Ark of Covenant. If you read different accounts of this mysterious 'connection to God.' If certain people approached it, they got terrible sick, some accounts are that it caused their skin and eyes to melt etc. When it was stolen and brought to a town, people who came in contact with it began mysteriously dying. When they got to the outer stone wall at Jericho, they circled the city 7 times with the Ark, then they sounded the trumpets and the walls crumbled. That sounds like energy/sound frequency technology. And it had to be kept in a carefully crafted container made out of wood and gold with very precise dimensions, perhaps to keep it stabilized. And they had to build a temple ...'' the Holy of Holies'' to house it and only trained high priests could enter wearing special safety gear with different coloured stones on their chests. Those guys went blind rather fast and didn't live long. So, what is it? I have no idea but it sounds rather dangerous. There are many more stories but who knows if any of this is actually true. There's no concrete proof that it ever existed other than legends and drawings....
I'm not great with history, but I enjoy learning about it and hate how people find it boring. The fact that my dad cared to bring me to battlegrounds and museums while also having lots of history documentaries on helped me find history engaging. I wish we as a society cared to do this more for younger generations.
@SamBANKmanHeeb Mind Unveiled? Yeah, those Tartaria videos are like watching flat earth videos. Conspiracy theories are fun, but having to make as many leaps in logic as you do to accept the Tartaria conspiracy is wild.
I was so confused for a moment there 😂 I watch Charlie too, so I had a moment where I was like "But I just put lore lodge on..?"... Then the ooOooo moment haha
I had a fantastic history teacher, which is why I appreciate the work you fine young men are doing. OTOH, Tartaria, as weirdly interesting as it is, makes my brain itch.
The issue I take with it certainly isn’t the question of “are we missing a chapter”, it’s the utterly unsupported claims about buried cities and ancient technology as if this is all something that should be obvious to people haha
But your brains perfectly at peace with the disneyfied fairytales programmed into the youth at the public brain-cemeteries we call education . Gimme a break
This whole video summed up in one thought “this one guy says a bunch of shit that’s super verifiably wrong and I took that personally.” Love your content man.
Blimps and airships are actually really useful technologies that if done right are a lot more economically feasible than planes in a lot of ways, the main issue were having currently is that they kind of work too well, we need an efficient way of descending without sacrificing on the ability to lift cargo
The problem with this subject is both sides will argue their point til they cant breathe anymore neither will give in and say oh yea you’re right that doesn’t make sense.. in all fairness im somewhere in the middle cuz where and why did all those giant architectural structures from the old world just come from…
Mind Unveiled may do a rebuttal vid but to save you and us from having to watch that I think it's best if you and Mind Unveiled meet up, off camera, with your books, jpegs and TH-cam links and nut this all out amongst yourselves. Feel free to team up and make a conclusion vid together. That'd be great.
Oooh, that's a great idea - but ONSCREEN! I'd love to see that, am v fond of mind unveiled and would be good to see some sensible discussion of the specific points of disagreement. If LL could put his sneering down for a little while that could be really interesting. Open and detailed discussion of these things is what we all want, right?
I like The Why Files and this channel because its nice to have someone be genuinely honest about these stories instead of playing up the fantastical elements of it for veiws. Thanks for your work my dude 🤘
Tartaria and the whole Mud Flood thing is super interesting to learn about even though it's obviously bullshit but it could definitely be good for setting up a fantasy story or a long DnD/Pathfinder homebrew campaign.
I have said it once and I will say it again. Isaac Newton is one of the most influential men of all time in both Physics and Math. He invented calculus and made strides basically founding the modern interpretation of classical mechanics and made great strides understanding optics. However his historical and theological takes leave something to be desired.
There's a lot to debunk there, without having recourse to abuse, such as "This is stupid etc." We know most about the heresies from the people who condemned them & destroyed them. Civilization originally developed in India, and China.
This is the first time I've heard of this nonsense and as an historian of Irish descent, it makes me question whether the internet is a good tool or a complete curse.
You know, I feel like you’re covering this from an entirely Watsonian perspective here. You haven’t asked the Doylist questions of why the world builder would set up a bunch of misunderstood maps for people to encounter of a fallen, mystical empire and are likely to completely blow off the adventure hooks at the rate you’re going.
This video really reminds me of the passion my middle school history teacher had for history. I was already falling in love with history since I grew up playing Civ 1 and 2 which made me look up information on the various leaders and civilizations but his passion really helped cement it for me. It's really cool to see the passion as I binge watch your channel after I found it recently.
Great video just a few comments! While Roman Engineering did drastically decline, tmk this was occurring even during the Empire as Late Roman's lost information of their earlier techniques from their height. While earlier Germanics groups did defintely raid and invade notably across the late antiquity period, Many of the Important groups (such as Franks) were actually hired mercenaries and naturally migrated into Rome and integrated. This is more noticeable of the Franks and Goths. They sort of start out with raids or as military combatants but are gradually brought into the Empire. And LL is correct we don't use Dark Ages anymore, Early Medieval (generally the fall of Rome over to the 10/11/th century) is the usual term in Academia. There's also quite a bit of academia on how Germanic groups adopted Roman customs and practices in the formations of their new Kingdoms (look at Goths and Merovingian Franks early on) and how while Rome did fall and never truly rise again the same way, roman custom by no means vanished truly simply become merged with numerous "germanic" Customs.
Unlike quite a few other comments, this was insightful to read, thank you. I genuinely appreciate it. So many others are claiming Aidan is "reciting lies" and it's tiring to see everyone say "liar" and have no intention of backing it up with evidence.
@Elisa The Wanderer Aidan is far from a liar. generally he's making good points and the entire theory of Tartaria and New Chronology is like psycho lol. If I wanted to be a stickler I could probably find like 1 or 2 thing maybe but generally he gives what's necessary to combat a poor conspiracy I'm an MA student for Medieval History and thought it would be worthwhile to make a comment. I'm glad you appreciate my nerd out lol
I love how the summary is literally just "Yeah it's like 10 old era things put together, they even have alchemy!" I can, and would LOVE to believe the Catholic Church did something so wild. But it becomes literally impossible once you start saying *alchemy* is involved. And I'm just zeroing in on the alchemy part, that summary has a lot to bite into. Edit: I paused the video to type this comment, unpaused, and WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ABOUT A SALMON???
I mean alchemy was the predecessor of chemistry. Distillation of alcoholic beverages to create spirits was discovered (in europe) by monks who were into fucking around with "alchemy". But yeah, I get alchemy is pretty much bullshit.
@burntgrilledcheese. Yes yes I do... And while you say it's nothing to do with gold and whatnot it is always been internally entwined with it throughout the ages
Have you considered making a series on pre-contact North American history? I really want to learn more and would trust you to not twist or omit facts, not to mention the way you speak is really engaging
You should also definitely keep paying into Goolags engagement system. It’s definitely not TOTALLY obvious whose a bot and whose an actual human being. Gotra admit, its fun to watch you respond to your tens of adoring bots.!!!
@@googleedwardbernays6455 it’s funny because his comments section is full of nothing but praise, suggesting he deletes negative comments, but you’re complaining about me responding to both supporters and detractors. It’s kind of sad how much y’all worship that guy.
@the lore lodge I thought of something last night that irritated me i had not figured it out years ago.. Out of necessity, internet was used to formulate & discuss viewpoints and narratives that conflict the Rockefeller-funded and “enforced” status-quo. The most apparent example of this being public education/ programming. For a while, everyone was cool with that arrangement and we left each other alone. But, like all good things, in come the neo-cons with their corporate interests to ruin the party. Anyways, i find it ironic that this guy with his Rockefeller approved prevailing theories and narratives still finds it necessary to come to the aid of the status quo and ruling class. Like, literally Mind Unveiled exists to debunk and challenge popular, prevailing belief systems that are jammed down our cultures throat against our wills. But here comes the invaders of our good time, the status quo guys like Ayden. The icing on the cake is his acting as though HE’s the outcast with the fringe/edgy POV. Also more icing, is his type is the first to yell about “safe spaces” , while at the same time wrecking anyone elses space. Swear to God. Its like we cant have anything nice
Also, i brought up the fact that you could be paying into an engagement system and instead of addressing my claim, you start in with the Mind Unveiled nonsense. ❤️ Someone has a crush ❤️ and it ain’t me!!!
Atn. Lore Lodge, I'd love you to do Doggerland, which is the closest thing we have (in my opinion) to a real Atlantis. I'm sure a lot of people don't know about it.
@@AndiCmartin I'm not just discovering Doggerland, I've known about it for long time. I'm suggesting to this channel that they might like to do a presentation on it. A few years ago someone told me new Zealand might be Atlantis. I also heard a theory that the Sahara is Atlantis. Rand Flem Arth thought Antarctica was Atlantis. Throw a dart at the world map and you'll hit a location that "might" be Atlantis. The difference with Doggerland is that it actually was a substantial chunk or\f populated land that actually did sink beneath the ocean without a trace. Unlike America which is still high and dry;)
I've never looked into tartaria too deeply but always found it fun and interesting to listen to. nice to have a rational and factual perspective on it though
24:43 As an orthodox Christian, I can safely say we're used to being casually forgotten when people start making conspiracies about Christianity and the papcy.
I always trust the info on this channel. On topic : There is the saying the history is told by the winners so I like to think some things might have been hidden or plainly destroyed to wipe out the cultures maybe nothing to this scale but warfare goes back all the way through evolution..
This guy is so perplexed that he has wasted over 5 years of his life studying absolute nonsense that he resorts to childish insults....Shame really...And here's the funny thing....He knows it..but could never admit it.....Jeez he can't even look at the camera straight in the face (lens)
Isn't basically the only thing from roman history we aren't sure on how to recreate the flame throwers that apparently burns on the ocean? Like I know we struggled with how their concrete mix was as strong as it was but I remember recently I saw a video explaining why
Greek fire is really cool and there's some theories that it was probably crude oil based and we know some of the components and manufacturing, but it's very unknown
Literally just found your channnel yesterday. Im coming from the side of curiosoty and nearly WANTING to believe alternative history but im all new and want to learn everything. Ive heard of Atlantis amd Lomuria in the last month and myu only yesterday! This is great! I'm irish and WAS NOT expecting this, oh my gee, i remember learning the salmon of knowledge in school, but totally forgot about it until now. From what I remember, fionn caught the salmon and cooked it, but the salmon told him if he ate him he would gain all the knowledge, and not to do that. (I cant remember why) so Fionn agreed, and a blister came up on the salmon, fionn burst it with his thumb and instinctively sucked it, and that was game over then. I have to look it up now, i cant remember why it was bad to eat the fish becaise they seemed to be having a reasonable conversation! Haha!
Haven't seen the full video yet, but as a Native American with history going back 12,000-24,000 years and a personal interest in science and architecture, I think this is going to be VERY interesting
@thomasmyers9128 History and ancestry are two different words, with different meanings! I think we're both smart enough to figure out how I was using the term :)
I’m happy for hearing this and hope that others are able to comprehend historical facts about all history in how you give so much thought and wisdom about attempting to make sense of sadly non educated humans so many thanks to you happy to share this
Eh, it’s a bit of a nitpick. He was more akin to a general contractor. Less specialization at the time, so you’d see that people were often proficient in everything it took to do a job.
Apparently @MindUnveiled made a response video to this. Lot of their supporters in my comments saying I “got cooked”.
I’ll be live reacting to his video on Twitch on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday of next week. 6pm-9pm EST.
If you’re one of his, you’re welcome to join. I’ll happily take your questions. Oh, and tell him to come on the live show. We’d love to discuss live, and since y’all seem to think I have him pegged wrong and that I’m too arrogant to recognize my own flaws, I don’t see how it could go badly for him.
He’s right, isn’t he?
Oh this’ll be good
It's amazing you got 90k views with this lol
Imagine if someone who wasn't short and ugly just read Wikipedia like this they would probably have 200k by now!
The CIA released documents mate (freedom of information) admitting to Tartaria coverup. Alittle more research before you go de-bunking young man🤙
@@nly4607 it’s very telling that all of Mind Unveiled’s supporters are either saying I’m ugly, fat, or Jewish, but none have presented a single counter argument to any point made in this video.
@@danhorne76 nope, they discussed the Russian suppression of the Muslim Tartar ethnic group, which still exists to this day both in and outside of Russia. This is super simple, easy stuff to find.
Maybe Tartaria was the friends we made along the way
This gotta be the only explanation
It's all about the journey man. Also 60/40 bro.
Bro its on maps.......
Regardless of what one believes, I found this video to be rather interesting and helpful. To the issue of "hidden" or "untrue" history, I believe there is a degree of that going on. After all, history is written by the victors with the victors' mindset and goals in mind. But, overall, history, as it is taught in the US is pretty straightforward. PS: You channeled my history teacher when you described the Holy Roman Empire.
Get out of here with that Raxxla slander... I believe in the honk...
My high school history teacher was so passionate about history, and I watched him die inside pretty much every day because he had to teach to a standardized test. Which was essentially just remembering names and dates. I always felt really bad for him. He would get so excited when he'd find an excuse to actually talk about history.
Why i left history teaching
I hope he gets to teach uni someday. Sounds like he'd be much happier.
@lowwastehighmelanin I'm not sure what he does now. He may be retired. I had his class in 2017, and he had already been teaching quite a while.
I hope he has joy in what he does now, whether he's retired or not.
Edit: also, his name was Mr. Ferguson. We called him Fergie Fresh. He was a cool guy.
Tartaria is Phoenicia, which fell at the time of Christ. Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes).
In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance.
The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam.
Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism.
It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world.
In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra.
El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia.
It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus.
The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Alter of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu.
The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Resurrection was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The King is Dead, long live the King.)
Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea.
The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC.
_Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the dragon, Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19.
The name "Pharoah" means "Great House"
or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic.
"As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila.
The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on.
Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island.
The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Ur Shalom, City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years.
Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar"
When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze.
Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
@@Uncanny_Mountain Americans 😂
When people say that we aren't capable of building things like the Romans, I'm pretty sure they're talking about the fact that when we build things out of concrete, they have serious erosion damage after only a few decades. Yet things like the Colosseum and Pantheon have stood for 2000 years. We only found out fairly recently how Roman concrete has the ability to 'fix' itself, its got big chunks of lime in it that react with water to fill in any holes.
We do know the formula we just don't use it because it's not realistic to use because of how long it takes to strengthen enough for modern use
@@TheUglyBiker42069 In addition, Roman concrete is extremely unsuitable to use in conjunction with rebar in modern reinforced concrete.
The common claim that Roman concrete is stronger than modern concrete is technically true, but that's without the rebar. With rebar, Roman concrete preforms far worse, and you can't build large (and I mean skyscraper large) constructions with it, despite its longevity.
I appreciate ya'll for teaching me so much about concrete in like three paragraphs.
Yay i finally understand roman concrete and why we don't use it.
Can we make Roman Cement? Can we make Natural Cement (like fort Jackson Florida)?
If Tartaria doesn’t exist, explain Tartar sauce. Checkmate.
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That's what the Tatar people were made into during the mud flows, man.. Tatar sauce! You can't debunk facts like that!
Well shit, I can't debunk that. Looks like you win this time
I think John Dee taking out the entire Spanish Armada with an obsidian mirror taken from the Aztecs is a strong indication that if you didn’t have a court magician you didn’t deserve to be a kingdom in the first place.
John Dee did that? What source are you getting this from? That doesn't sound real
@@fredjohnson9833 He didn't actually do that, specifically. It was something the peasants came to believe and used as an example of his witchcraft to justify destroying his house and research.
He did help plan the naval strategy that resulted in the British victory and sea domination that followed, he also had a bunch of new world curios that included an obsidian mirror. The uneducated masses around him conflated the two due to timing of him collecting the mirror and the victory over the Spanish some weeks later.
It was basically believed that nothing could defeat the Spanish Armada at the time, so supernatural intervention was blamed instead of the British ambushing the Armada piecemeal before it could gather up and attack as a group. It was a long chain of the entire British Fleet versus one to five Spanish Armada ships over and over until there weren't any Armada ships left to sink. To keep Spain from regrouping, none of these victories were announced until they were all destroyed, making it seem like they won with a fleet less than a tenth the size.
Ergo, the wizard must have did it.
I don't know why the mirror was involved in the story, there's no real explanation except that he got it shortly before the announcement. In fact, I think it was probably retrieved from one of the Spanish ships as loot because where else would he have gotten an Aztec artifact from at the time?
Edit: It was from a book about Robert Dudley and his affair, it was just a footnote about how John Dee was ousted from his residence and forced to flee to the palace 'at the time'. It even notes in the book that while it's the reason the peasants rose up, it's also nonsense as he wasn't even there while the naval war was ongoing. I can't remember the name, it was something like Elizabeth and Leichester?
Nope
@@Trivial_Whim Dee was a fascinating man; as was Kelly (his scryer/assistant); Robert Fludd, Roger Bacon... All the alchemists and occultists and magicians of the past, particularly the Medieval to Enlightenment eras really were fascinating people. They did a lot of incredible things, even according to what most regard as legitimate history. Still, many of their feats were apocryphal at best. I believe this particular story ultimately stems from the ancient legend of Archimedes defending Syracuse by using mirror-polished shields to set fire to the Roman fleet.
@@J.DeLaPoer John Dee, the OG conlanger
I was so confused when I clicked on a lore lodge video and suddenly charlie starts talking
who is charlie?i can't remember someone charlie talking, is the guy in this video charlie?
@rauldoukenholzlokschin7536 I assume it's the conspiracy dude talking at the very start when you click on the video
Same! Thought I clicked the wrong video.
Same here. For a second I was thinking I clicked on another video..
My wife is full blooded Tartar. When this misguided conspiracy came out, I had fun telling proponents of it this fact. Of course few of them even knew of the actual ethnic group in Russia, so they assumed I was married to an Atlantian-type woman lol.
Wait, isn't the group called tatars? We have them in Poland, though its possible that it's written tartars in english
What are the Basques people between France and Spain?
@@wlodek8757 yeah the president of the tartars met with Russia in 2017 and Putin Gave him a map made by William Bleu, a renowned dutch cartographer did he not?
Don't you mean Tatars? and aren't they Mongols?
@@perjutsu2936 They are a mixture of Turks and Mongols
This vid is a wonderful example of, when in our "gullible people believe the weirdest things" world, those who know nothing about stuff are easily refuted by those who actually know a whole lot about stuff. Well done Aiden! I knew nothing about this but as usual, you've taught me about the subject in a way that's super interesting and informative.
how about you do your own research also, instead of blatantly believing everything someone online says.
Wouldn't you fall in that same "gullible" category by blindly believing what he's saying?
@@bentheten874I mean they believe in moon landing that’s all I have to say 😊
@@bentheten874 Actually you have a really good point; it is always good to do your own research.
However, their point was he explains the details really well and in depth to make it consumable and takes 10+ hours of reading into 1-2 hour videos, but to add more points to Lore Lodge's credit he brings up actual known sources when applicable, when he doesn't what he says can be fact checked easily with more then 2 minutes of searching and those sources can be fact checked by checking where the info comes from or he states it is his opinion based on the known facts, when he has got something wrong in the past he has admitted it which is more then I can say for any conspiracy theorists I've met(which is is way more then I'd like), and he discredits the sources used to "prove" what he is explaining the reality behind instead of just telling them to believe his point, so even if they don't agree with his point they understand that the other belief is still wrong because the basis of their idea just doesn't work.
So overall if you're going to blindly follow what someone online tells you and it's between one trying to get you to believe everything historians have found to be as accurate as they can get for this moment in time is just wrong and they are all idiots despite actually studying it and doing the research or the man who never goes out of his way to make crazy claims, explains all of his points clearly without accidentally discrediting other things he's said before hand, admits when he's wrong, tells people when he is unqualified for talking on the next subject due to being further out from his general knowledge, he also tells people when what he is saying is unproven and just his conclusion with the proven evidence he has found, and to top it all off he is just overall really consistent with what he's saying. I'd take my chances with the latter.
Now I personally do neither, I just find these types of videos very interesting and enjoy his content because he goes in depth and when it does catch my interest I do more research myself which he makes easier with sources related to specifically what he's talking about and only using easily checked facts. See I base my reality off of what I can visually know, because obviously, or what I have gone out of my way to understand, the idea behind it, where it comes from and any opposing ideas then follow what I feel is correct with the most evidence and general believability. I'm a heavily distrustful person and my sisters manipulated multiple people when I was a kid so I'm good at spotting the signs of untrustworthy information or just people.
Dude saying someone else is wrong doesn't make you right. His whole argument is just personal conjecture and without obsessively "disproving" other people has no actual argument or proof even and everything he says is a guess or probability he concludes. He Goes "this guy thinks this but he's wrong because of x, and this other guy thinks a different thing but he's wrong because of y, then he cherry picks things that closely resemble one another and makes personal anecdotes and opinions about them by changing them to construct his narrative and saying everyone is wrong and what I have decided is truth. He extrapolates his reasons from Any and every source imaginable throughout history and uses Google to support his ideas when in reality the people from the area he is discussing would all have different and varying truths and recollections and histories...he hasn't shown any proof for anything. He just shows someone else's opinion with some pictures someone else drew or painted and goes , this is common sense and obviously this happened because it's possible and no one else can be right because of something someone else says..without the use of someone else's opinion to disprove another person's opinion, he literally has no proof and simply says obviously "this didn't happen, but sometimes it does, and even those so and so has a real good point that actually supports itself with modern notions and understandings of evil people and events and groups that have every reason to lie and had the power to rewrite history, simply saying the persons ideas while shaking your head left and right and squinting your eyes is enough proof to dismiss them completely and use whatever theory he found most plausible based off his Google searches
I told my sister you did a video on the tartaria “theory” and she having never heard of it said “is that where we get the name of tartar sauce?” And I laughed so hard I almost choked on a soda.
Tartar sauce was first used as a mortar to solidify the underground buildings, until one day a worker spilled some on his lunch.
They ate only raw food, hence beef tartar. I would be great at this make believe stuff..
@@janemiettinen5176 That's actually a legit argument for Tartaria. Some day, after the next reset, someone will be eating Yorkshire pudding, and the lightbulb will light up over his head. Everyone else will call him crazy to suggest that an island nation could have been at one time the global super power that claimed that the sun never set on their flag.
Chicks really are as dumb as a bag of rocks
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Imagine naming your empire after tartar sauce.
Elite sauce tho
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Oddly enough “Tartaria” and “Tartar (in regards to sauce)” are not etymologically linked
I see that you are a proponent of the Saucist Hypothesis. Numerous internet scholars have identified the name as stemming from a type of tooth decay.
Goes with salmon I guess 😂😂
I absolutely love the Tartaria myth because it really puts on display how far some people will carry their desire to have a hidden, secret truth, no matter how ridiculous their idea becomes.
And it's funny because when there are actual important things that are being suppressed or kept hidden and even when there's evidence you're still called a schizo.
Really reminds me of Black Israelites, but for Irish people
Gnosisim never dies out does it
@@highbread817lmaoo why is this so accurate
My brother seems to think this is real, but got very angry when I pointed out that if you are going to erase history and change things, how do you miss everything but maps? Maps would be the first thing you would change or get rid of.
I've always liked this theory in a kind of creepypasta or monument mythos kind of way, it's just really interesting to see how they form connections between things that aren't actually connected and at first glance seems fairly plausible if you just refuse to look into any of it.
The worst thing about it is that there is almost no actual information that really explains anything, just a bunch of "if you know you know" and showing random pictures without any context, description or explanation and saying "see, I told you!". They need to work on that
Well that's nonsense and you clearly haven't researched anything just reached your own conclusion
What got me interested in history, was my 8th grade history teacher. We where learning about WWII and everyone walked in to class one day to find that the teacher had turned the class into a mini battlefield. The tables created trenches on both sides of the room and the middle was no man's land. We had to throw paper balls at the opposing side, and anyone that got hit was considered dead and had to go stand in the hall. I pretty sure it was just an excuse to goof off but it made learning about a graphic time in history a little more barrable for a bunch of middle schoolers.
I think VR could expand on this type of teaching. Like you’ll actually be in the trenches. Bombs falling, machine gun rounds wizzing by.
That sounds cool. Real good technique to teach history. Man was a genius
That's the kind of teachers we need now. I had teachers back in the 60's that would do that! I was fortunate to grow up on a peninsula in VA. So got to go on field trips to Yorktown where Cornwallis surrendered to Washington and there's still buildings with cannon balls in the walls and Jamestown and colonial Williamsburg. I highly recommend these places to this day to take kids on vacation. I'm 63 now but when I was young there was still the remains of an Indian village on the banks of the York River which was way cool. Colonial parkway between youktown and wbg. You can still see remnants of original homesites. Pretty awesome
@AvrageAndy ya let's do VR then eat bugs in our pod while owning nothing.
@@AvrageAndy the vr shifts because you took methamphetamine,it's lovely
Not only does he turn into a salmon but he is made human again when the daughter or wife of the king EATS his salmon form and becomes pregnant and births him "reborn" but he has all the knowledge of his past "life" and relays the whole thing yo the king. That legend is wild Istg
Ah, I see. The original Returner manga protagonist.
WE WUZ LEPRECHAUNS 'N SHIEET
LMAO
Pixies. leprechauns and pixies the 2 types of Irish.
The leprosy (leper)kings were pygmy ppl..
Little known fact - Uranus is a mud volcano. I'll show myself out.
Thank you for justifying sorting the comments by "newest first"
I think the druid thing comes from how romans did target them, but it was because druids were the history and storykeepers of their tribes essentially, wipe out the history of a tribe makes it a hell of a lot easier to assimilate them into your empire and lessens chance of revolts.
It's more a part of their killing of authority figures in the conquered, as most cultures never separeted religious and political power (faz and ius) at least not fully. So killing isolated priests was easy enough to avoid future rebellions the could theoretically lead.
Fun fact about the Seattle image that he used, all of Seattle used to be one floor below where it currently stands. When Seattle was first built, it was done so by people with no understanding of engineering or city planning, so the city would flood whenever it rained. After the great Seattle fire that burned 33 blocks of the city, they decided to rebuild it properly. So they started literally piling on dirt until the streets were about ten feet higher than before, this gave the city a "waffle iron" appearance, where the streets were considerably higher than the sidewalks.
This became a problem because people would fall off the road to their deaths on the sidewalks below. The city officially dubbed these deaths "Involuntary Suicide" This problem was solved by building new sidewalks at street-level, and paving them with glass in some sections so light could still get into the original sidewalks below. While most shops just moved their store-fronts up a floor, some couldn't afford it and stayed below, and soon the underground became a haven for anything "disorderly"
They should've never rebuilt it
WHAT
If I remember properly they also did something similar in Chicago.
Believe Sacramento also rebuilt streets a story higher as well.
@Sam BANKman Heeb 💀💀
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Here in my home of Baltimore, MD. is a little known "Star Fort", known as "Ft. McHenry". Although I'm not sure what year the fort was built.(EDIT: After looking it up it was built in 1798 ) I can say it was already there when a certain man by the name of Francis Scott Key wrote this fairly obscure poem while he was on a British ship just off the coast, while the fort was being attacked. Meanwhile, a certain (quite enormous) US Flag which flew over Ft. McHenry, caught his eye (which incidentally, IS STILL THERE!!!). And Key watched on, as the British Navy bombarded this, STAR FORT...(So heavily though the night. The bombs were even bursting in mid air) This was during the War of 1812.
Some keen historians may actually know the poem he wrote that night. It was later put to music, and titled:
"The Star Spangled Banner"
All jokes aside, growing up within 7 miles of Ft. McHenry (at times even closer, less than one mile away) Anyone in this City (Well, at least some of the residents of Baltimore, I'd be willing to bet a decent percentage... at the very least a couple other people besides just me! The "Groundskeepers anyway definitely know the truth! :P LOL) can tell you "Star Forts" have been around for well over 200 years at the very least. Also, The Civil War, which just to be thorough, kinda sorta started at Ft. Sumpter,.. yet ANOTHER STAR FORT in South Carolina. So how can these so-called star forts, be from the American Civil War, when the war started at an existing "Star Fort"???
Good point. The star forts are intriguing
A "mud volcano" sounds like someone experiencing Taco Bell in the worst possible way.
Jackass, did this exact thing, you describe. I wouldn't recommend watching that bit.
Well, now I gotta look it up...
@@TrentFalkenrath I warned you, lol.
A mud volcano is very very bad.
It burns. Its wet and you must immediately shower.
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I think the idea that the Irish originally came from Atlantis was thought up by Robert E. Howard as part of his Conan stories. And Howard never claimed that any of this was real.
I think it probably wasn’t helped by the fact that we have our own island flood myth of Hy Brasil, these people may have seen it as “proof” because it was so close in old maps to Ireland
Ever heard of Doggerland? I suggest you look it up. You might be surprised.
Edit: To clarify, I'm not suggesting an Ireland-Doggerland connection, just that Howard's sunken land in Northern Europe has a basis in fact which influenced myth and legend.
@@martinharris5017 I know about Doggerland. But that's not the same thing as Atlantis.
No, it comes from Irish stories about Hy-Brasil, and some similar myths.
@@berserkasaurusrex4233 Yes, I'd forgotten about that! Thanks.
I feel like Tartaria is basically America’s “middle earth” but they were way too lazy to flesh it out into a fun story with characters so it just sort of got pooped out onto the internet.
best description of these fanatic weirdos. "got pooped out onto the internet" lmao
The Irish are the Maiar 😂
Perhaps at first glance, if you don't really look into the multitude of different offshoots from this one badly entitled genre. If you find good creators and there are many and go back and watch many of their videos, many things just cannot be explained away. Trust me, I knew nothing of this but once I watched several credible videos and began doing my own deep dives into a myriad of subjects that which are oddly all related surprisingly, I couldn't just write this off as something that 'just sort of got pooped out onto the internet.' There's a lot more to this than mere poop...trust me. I hate poop but find some of these topics, certainly not all and definitely NOT the creator showcased here. I thought I knew most creators but he's awful. There are far better ones which I've mentioned in several comments above. But I'm not here to convince anyone. If you've actually given it a fair look... like hearing more than this dude but several creators who discuss so many connected subjects and you still find it doesn't resonate at all. That's ok, it's not for you but, it doesn't mean that it's internet poop or all full of BS. Kindest regards to everyone,
LC
They have the Man-Salmon.
Tartaria is basically just pro-Putin propaganda because I’ve seen so many Tartaria believers support Putin and his invasion of Ukraine because they believe he’s going to restore Tartaria. Kinda funny when you realize the last time someone tried to build a nation of racially superior peoples by invading neighboring countries was back in the 40s by Hitler… so not exactly a very good look for all those Tartaria believers because they’re literally shilling the 21st century equivalent of Hitler according to their beliefs.
In repsonse to the end of your video, I think that historians need to give legitimate arguments like the ones you gave here. I appreciate you taking things point by point and explaining, at least in some detail, *why* they were wrong. A lot of times, I just see people smugly say that conspiracies are obviously wrong and thats that. But when you're talking to someone who whole heartedly believes a conspiracy, you telling them they're obviously wrong just serves to make them resent you and boldens their beliefs. New to your channel, and I followed the channel for the fun creepy time lore videos, but I hope to see more like this one!
Best part about these ridiculous theories is that when you call them out about not citing any sources they turn around and say its because all the sources were obfuscated or destroyed.
The mud floods did it!
If it is all true and the people that rule over us don't want us to know, of course they would use their extensive powers to hide/destroy any evidence.
But is that not exactly what someone trying to hide something would do. I’ll use JFK as an example. The video of the other angle of his shooting showing the grassy knoll was “lost” while it was in CIA possession. Not saying Tartaria is real but obviously the people in control destroy anything that would ruin their reputation or alter how we perceive them.
They burned down all the major libraries of ancient written chronicles around the world. They burned down the Libraries of Alexandria. The Romans confiscated what manuscrpts were remaining under the Vatican. True or not? What are they hiding and why? They burned down all the cities for a reason.
It’s always terribly convenient for them isnt it?
Even worse when they just say actual sources are fake.
Who live in a pineapple under the sea
Sponge Bob? 😂
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS
Sunken Altlanteans from Lemuria.
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S's and question marks, seemingly.
“Your astrologer or alchemist was not a court wizard” Tragic, that would have been awesome
I’m completely ignorant about most everything you talked about, but as someone who absolutely despises people thinking that their ability to use a search engine gives their opinions as much validity as those who devote their ENTIRE LIVES to study and research, I absolutely love this.
I hate those kinds of people. I have gotten into arguments with this guy who basically worships Google. He will say something outlandish, I will say that's not true, and then he googles some vague thing, and go's, "Google says this, I'm right" without actually understanding what's being said. It's really annoying when someone knows nothing about a topic, and thinks they know all about it.
You can devote your whole life researching the wrong thing.
@@Dade-xo9xt What is “the wrong thing” exactly? Do you mean being over-reliant on a single “wrong” theory or something? You make zero sense. If you’re going to insinuate that he’s somehow researching “the wrong thing” - cite an example so that the rest of us know what you’re talking about.
Dumb, ambiguous statements are not arguments. Sorry.
@@yugij0319the pandemic was absolutely ripe with uneducated people looking at cherry-picked examples of raw data that they had no idea how to interpret and then choosing that as a hill to die on. 2020-2022 came with the realization that there is an entire world of functional idiots who were so attached to their confirmation bias that they would let it put them in a hospital bed fighting for their lives on a respirator. Ugh.
@mansquatch7433 There was nothing dumb and ambiguous about my statement at all. I'm sorry you didn't have the capacity to comprehend it, so I'll elaborate. You come off as bit emotional, and I understand that you're not particularly a person who appreciates when someone disagrees with you. My point is that just because you devote your whole life to researching something doesn't necessarily mean that the information that you accumulate is inherently 100% correct. That is basically science. It's for the most part theories based on our own perception of reality and heavily marginalised by our limited senses and our own indoctrination. How do I know? Well, you can easily find someone who agrees with your initial comment (like the one above), but I can just as easily find someone who would disagree, meaning that it's easy to assume or suggest something exists as a basis for reasoning, discussion or belief. I assume you don't have any peer reviewed studies published to back your claims either, so if you want to make such a bold statement that suggests that anyone who disagrees with you are ignorant, then the burden of proof is just as much yours as anyone elses.
Do better, buddy👌🏽
Aiden: *speaking of Theosophy* "I still don't totally understand it"
Me, as an over 10-year researcher of the occult: "Nah, you understand it perfectly"
If Theosophy makes sense, you're a Theosophist. If it doesn't, grats, you're more normal than you thought.
Personally I'd rather salute Thelema over Theosophy. Although I still wouldn't recommend shaking their hand.
Thelema < Theosophy. Crowley died a perverted opium addict and pretty sure was what people are calling “MAPS” these days
Ew, what? Thelema and it's creator are disgusting.
Theosophy is inherently racist tho
@@jeremyt4292 I agree as far as Theosophy goes.
So do you also get visions from staring up the butt of a murdered child?!
@@jeremyt4292why are you people so obsessed with racism? Nature is inherently racist, and racism is true
Someday there will be another global collapse and then hundreds of years later someone will dig up the Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones books with maps and will argue that there was an ancient lost civilization and here's what the world used to look like!
Okay, let’s look at it from his theory view for a second.
The forts were already there because Tartaria built them.
That means that Tartaria had to defend its coastline from an enemy that was attacking from the sea…
My god I figured it out!
It was those damn pesky sea people again!
First they caused the Bronze Age Collapse and then they disappeared only to resurface and sack Tartaria!
We need to counter invade and take their capital of Ry’leah before they decide to end civilization again!
I bet they sank Atlantis too!
Those gosh darn sea peoples, always showing up and ruining ancient history
The Sea People were Mongols.
Mongols and Ta(r)tars are ancient East Asian civilizations that have been aroune for a long while.
They evolved into Tartarians after sometime.
The Mongol Khaganate was a remnant of Tartaria.
Mongolia and Tartaria were the same thing.
I absolutely busted out laughing when I heard "Hebrew is a dialect of Irish" 😂
Errrm, bro, Gaelic is actually an ancient language directly related to Hebrew.
Go look into the Irish (not Celt) DNA and the Middle East.
Also look into The Tuatha De.
Read the opening paragraphs of the Scottish Declaration of Arbroath. Then who the Scythians/Cimmerians/Khumry were and where they travelled from and to.
Have a fun dig.
With Irish you perish! Do you think A Wyatt Man didn't know this?
@@dr.2335Talking about Scythians, are you trying to say that Irish people are of turkik origin? 🤣🤣🤣 And I thought that only we, Hungarians, of all European nations are of turkik origins. So, all the DNA scientists, linguists, and historians are wrong?
@@balazsvarga1823
Just because you miss spell it doesn't change intent white shows your true colors.stinkin thinkin of the wyhit man jeez
None us know how deep this goes we are all humans just different shades of BEAUTIFUL. Grow up.stpp drinking the Kool aid but never stop seeking the whole truth.
That means watch read listen to all views but it still may not be while truth's
@@matildamarmaduke1096 Az ember színe fehér.
1:30:51
I actually have a very cynical perspective on the average person's take on history, kind of bordering on conspiracy theory honestly, but it's one I do truly believe in. The main gist is this; *public schooling, at least in the United States, purposefully makes history as bland and vague as possible with a number of techniques, one of them teaching geography before even going onto history of any kind.*
Now, what I mean by the second part of that sentence is not to discredit geography; I myself am on my way to becoming an Egyptologist and obviously understand the importance of geography, especially human geography. The problem is that most teenagers don't and pushing the more technical side of our fields almost signals a deliberate tone-deafness to it all.
For example, if it wasn't for my already existing love for world history and human sociology, I'm almost 99% sure that because I was forced to take either world geography or human geography before even touching world history in freshman year, I would've become completely turned off by the entire subject and it's overlapping fields altogether. Its essentially forcing a 5th grader to do quadratic formulas before they even understood long division; it's reductive, makes a lot of people confused and frustrated, and then you have generation after generation of people being apathetic to their surroundings and the human conditions around them.
Not to mention of course, that a lot of history/social studies classes are optional in most cases so it really does to show how much the government really doesn't want you informed on the causes and effects of what happened in the past. History repeating itself has got to be one of the truest phrase ever uttered by man.
Then you went to a weird school, we never had to do any history before world history in 7th grade. And I'll be honest I've never even heard of human geography, I went to a rural Iowa school, and everyones favorite class besides p.e was history
I went to school in canada, graduated high school in 2017. I can only say that if we ever learned world history at any point in school, I don’t remember it.
It was basically twelve years of “social studies” (that’s what they call it here” and it was literally just learning about the colonization of canada and the fur trade. Over and over. For twelve years.
Canadians don’t know shit about world history unless they take it upon themselves to learn it.
Small pedantic gripe - wood is in fact a conductor of electricity if it's wet or even damp, and even when dry, it can still conduct at high enough voltages. The latter is usually only an issue when dealing with powerlines. But it's important to know if you're going to be messing with anything electrical and things are wet - that wood isn't safe to touch). But that is actually why you can see St. Elmo's fire on wooden ship masts and church steeples - because it generally only appears during storms, when the wood would be wet (and the pointy shape of them allows the energy to sort of concentrate in a small area. But church spires are still definitely not power stations or whatever these people believe.
This was a long way of saying water is the main conductor in wet wood.
Yep, its why you wanna cut down or trim any tree growths near electric fences for example, because if you dont the electric fences will just be regular fences.
OH MY GOD
I am 30 minutes in and I realize that guy is literally just using the lore from Conan the Barbarian.
The Cimmerians were the ancient ancestors of the Irish, who were the descendants of Atlantis.
It sounds so much like the Hyborian age.
Atlantis - A lot to be uncovered there.
What would my Zingarian wifes family say when they learn she married Kothian blood!
I’m half tatar and half kazakh. Tartaria means land of the turkic people who ruled Eurasia for hundreds of years, including many turkic ethnicities.
Do not try to reason with Americans, they are a silly folk.
I know you are right. But they'll never believe you, as that would mean aknowledging how far they have fallen in the last half century.
Looking at that phrase that was written on the Map by Urbano Monti, you have to remember that Italy unified in 1861, and prior to that, the Italian peninsula was made up of many smaller countries that spoke their own italic langauge, such as neapolitan, sicilian, Lombard, ect. The modern Italian language is basically just the Tuscan dialect. Now considering Urbano Monti was born and raised in Milan, you could probably make more sense of that word if you were to find someone that speaks Lombard or studies the Lombard Language. Also remember that Lombard is Gallo-Italic and Tuscan is Italo-Dalmatian.
Yeah, I would’ve loved to have a solid translation on that one. I looked at a couple of 16th and 17th century italian dictionaries and couldn’t find anything in there or on wiktionary. I’ll see if any of my professors know a Lombard specialist
@@TheLoreLodgeYou could reach out to the gentleman of the channel Metatron. You could consider him a history channel. He has often spoken on the importance of correct translations as well as understanding usage of words in the context of their time.
He is a Sicilian man, very knowledgeable in the history of Ancient Rome. He puts a lot of research into his work.
He has done videos on different biblical topics. What can or can not be cross references to other written histories, in other languages,of the past.
It's almost 4am I fear I am explaining poorly as I am finally getting sleepy...
From what he has mentioned, I bet he could find you the right person. If still interested.
Cool channel regardless. (Yours is too,sir)
@@juliannacolombo5584great connection, Metatron is a good resource. He does make a lot of effort for translations so I think he could be of some help to Aiden.
@@juliannacolombo5584 he also says europe wasnt white and was infact black look up the video not a good source at all
I'm an Italian from the Milan region. That writing on the map is definitely standard Italian, not Lombard dialect, which is not too surprising -- it goes back to the time of Dante (1300s) and was already used in writing even if few people spoke it. I agree with the translation given here, but I'm afraid I can't be of any help with "Jesubiri".
I love conspiracies because even when they are obviously made up, they're fun stories to hear about.
Tartaria is no story or myth
@@davidpurll4570 Yes, it’s a complete lie.
@SamBANKmanHeebfor real
@Sam BANKman Heeb lmao dude what? The dude is pretty based, the moment your theory gets debunked you turn into a some goofy liberal claining weird shit lmao
Aiden is a real grifter. Who wants to watch this guys face for so long?
I'm glad you're confronting these theories rather than censoring them. Too many content creators are happy to dismiss alternative ideas WITHOUT walking people through why those ideas are incorrect.
Your promotion of critical thinking is very important for developing crucial skills, ex that forts could be and were built on beaches once a stable fountain was laid. Simple, but important.
And to be fair, if mind theory does take itself seriously, your critique of their work was devastating. But not cruel.
And who really knows, but there is a hint of griftiness put forward by supporters of Tartaria. I wouldn't be surprised if the source was a creative writing experiment mutated into a very roundabout attack against elitist academia, at times known to suppress new information and destroy reputations.
You've struck a chord of balance here and it's super refreshing. Thank you so much!
Its so daft you could almost believe it was deliberately written so insanely to check how much it would get cited or something, kind of like how map makers put made up streets on maps so they knew when a competitor copied their work
YOU FOOOLS THE TARTAR PEOPLE WILL RISE WE WILL RIRE SN
Wow. Sssstupid
Promotion of critical thinking? With that cynical condescending tone the second he begins his narrative?
@@mariecolette170😊
Love your channel and the way you're doing your research to either debunk other's lies or to present some facts on your own. To tell you the truth, I am very proud of you, because in today's world there are not so many intelligent people as one may think, especially when it comes to young ones. And it is good to show the world that not everyone can be deceived. Great job!
PS: I see you're thinking of changing your channel's name to "Redacted." There is another one named like that. It is a news channel with the Morris family.
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That "oh I'm gonna debunk it" mentality is what I'm here for Aiden
It's like I'm opening an anti-SJW video from 2013, it really sets in the shitty snarky mood for the rest of the video.
@@vroomkaboom108 i love it
yea but he didn't..he just said " no..didn't happen" can't debunk shit w shit talking...show at least 1 fact
@@ErikPhillips-vk8qx Did you even watch the video lmao
Why split your audience between creatives and critics. You actually need both.
As a person with a love for languages I appteciate your attention to linguistics as a way of debunking things like this
I like the linguistics of the Basques, especially Erromintxela
@SamBANKmanHeeb I’m like 3.8% Ashkenazi and I learned that in April, you’re gonna have to find a new conspiracy theory
@Sam BANKman Heeb ... what?
Now, now. You know darn well that in a few decades or so the public schools will be teaching that D. J. Trump was personally stuffing children into cages on the southern border and leading an armed insurrection into the halls of legislature!
I learned early on not to engage with Tartarianites, as I couldn't eloquently explain and distill 4 years of art and architecture classes to explain how silly the idea is.
They’re typically not stupid, they just know so much that isn’t true.
The fact you think your education taught the truth about everything is evidence of a naive educated fool grow up
I know this is an old vid but I just gotta point out that this is exactly why I love this channel. Accurately relaying solid history which refutes the made-up history done with a ‘just the facts ma’am’ and a wonderful sense of humor. Graham what’s-his-name puts out nice fanciful videos that are watched (by me) for fun and entertainment. I did get a shock though when the person I was watching Graham’s newest offerings with turned to me and announced how amazing his work was and how wrong ‘those in power’ have kept this ‘history’ from the masses. I was floored. Thanks for doing these videos and presenting HISTORY. 😊
Is it possible that you examine the Chicago World's Fair without the Tartaria context?
By that I mean the construction aspects of the whole fair; how it was built with temporary materials like timber framing and staff in 2 years, on 690 acres, on a marsh land with 1890s technology.
It still baffles me how much effort must have been gone into the foundations of the buildings alone, regardless of how temporary they meant to be, and also the construction of the canals.
Not to mention all the production of the materials and infrastructure required to transport the materials on site and to accommodate the construction workers etc.
Yea the worlds fairS as in multiple amazing builds that were temporary but some were in fact kept. Not to mention several buildings were as big as the largest we have currently.
No matter what something fishy as hell with americas past and the victor's write history period
Still, we have the San Francisco pan am exposition stuff and the San Diego Balboa Park architecture still standing. It doesn’t really add up that these seemingly sturdy structures get easily burnt down
The Natives knew how to make that kind of stuff years ago..They used rock from Pipestone MN mixed with seaweeds and seawater. You can't use regular water. Seawater keeps the mix from disintegrating fast while setting up. That's pretty much what the Corn Palaces in SD were made of with corn adorning the exterior.
The seawater used came from Lake Superior
Plus he spoke of the zeppelin aircraft and how the photos of them docking at these towers are supposedly photo-shopped but I've seen photos like this in the library archives so library archived photos are faked. Now why tf would anyone do that?
There is a German lady called Hannelore Vonier. She has a massive homepage on which she collects all of the Tartarian lore.
Most normal person from Sachsen
Link?
Thanks for the cool comment. Theyre few and far between here
Small brain: “The Egyptians built the pyramids.”
Big brain: “Aliens built the pyramids.”
Galaxy brain (and me from now on): “The Irish built the pyramids.”
This is from now on my headcanon, just because of how funny it sounds.
They built the pyramids for Pharaoh Wewuz after getting drunk at the local pub.
Lol Reminds me of that Family Guy episode where it showed that the Irish had flying cars and a futuristic society with cures to most diseases, then someone went and invented whisky and the society collapsed in mere minutes.
I majored in music but I've been a lifelong student of history, it's always fascinated me and I've always felt like there's a lot of missing pieces to the story. I honestly believe that somewhere in between what we'd call the mainstream narrative and the wild stories of Tartaria, the theories (not so wild) of guys like Hancock, etc... is the truth.
Gobekli Tepe doesn't stand alone. It's part of a complex and it's not even the oldest part of that complex. The Sumerians say some crazy things in the Enuma Elish but it's also strikingly similar to the Bible. It appears to me that most religions tell essentially the same stories with much the same message: strive to be a good person.
I think people believe stuff like Tartaria because something inside them tells them that what we know isn't all there is and that the supposed mud floods could almost make sense in the context of the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis.
In reality, who really knows?
you also don't explain why they tore down buildings after the world fair.. because if you are saying it was built weakly due to rapid construction then why do the remaining building from the world fair still stand?
Carving huge granite statues in a week ? Building massive glass green houses in a week? Why is the majority of the architecture that involves predominantly Greek and Roman style? Everywhere they go .
The building built for the worlds fairs were not built to be permanent structures. Think of them as “exhibits”.
Remember, the absence of answers doesn’t authenticate any viewpoint. Ideas need to be backed by something more than suspicion to be given any attention.
@@piffofdrabbitSo why is the Eiffel Tower still standing?
@@clifforddurbin5168 "Eiffel had a permit for the tower to stand for 20 years. It was to be dismantled in 1909, when its ownership would revert to the City of Paris. The city had planned to tear it down (part of the original contest rules for designing a tower was that it should be easy to dismantle) but as the tower proved to be valuable for many innovations in the early 20th century, particularly radio telegraphy, it was allowed to remain after the expiry of the permit, and from 1910 it also became part of the International Time Service."
Could really hear the emotion in Charlie’s voice when he said “don’t debunk it”.
Does alot of this tartaria stuff stem from the book of jubille after the flood when noahs sons settled in ruins of cities or is this something supposedly more recent?
It’s way more convoluted than you could ever imagine
@The Lore Lodge well I'm here for whatever it is.
I gotta say the comments on this video are hilarious and wild, seeing you reply calmly to the rude and insulting people in the comments while also gently helping and offering info on the subject is like watching one of those fight scenes in a movie where the main character fights off like 100 enemies without being touched, it’s honestly great 😂😂😂
I hope we get a video breaking down the “New Chronology” concept. I love dunking on idiots who say the Middle Ages didn’t happen
Hey Dylan, remember me? It's Mike, from the dark ages, remember? Awww they were the good old days.
The middle ages or the "dark ages"? I feel like you'd have to be insane to claim the prior never happened but the latter seems arguable
@@MikeMichaels1987 right! what do we believe when none of us were actually there? what "knowledge" we have is mostly if not totally someone's idea of what might have happened based on someone else's written works that may have been a completely made up story. even if their story was somewhat true they had their bias so they didn't always see the truth but only what they wanted to.
@Mike Michaels do u remember me we had primary school together I remember when we would get boners and race each other to finish
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_chronology_(Fomenko)
Fomenko’s New Chronology is the basis for most of the Tartaria hypothesis. Hopeful that rabbithole is explored in another episode.
Kinda reminds me of Von Däniken and ancient alien theory. Except for Fomenko’s weapon of choice is mathematics instead of outright bullshittery like Von Däniken.
Aidan that welsh uni u attended was money well spent u know ur stuff ill give u that. I like the variety u have with the vids mixing it up. the lore lodge is one of the few YT channels i look forward to watching.Keep up the good work. All the best from Waterford Ireland, Gach an chuid is fearr
Clearly, Tartaria was wiped out during the Great Finno-Korean Hyperwar, when the Korean army caused a great mud flood. That’s the reason lol
No no, there were three cultures in Ireland. There were the Formian giants, the Tuath De fairies that were at war with the Formians and of course the Fir Bolg who were just kind of there forever without doing anything.
People who subscribe to Tartarian "theory" are 100% likely to say "space isn't real globetards"
Yeah globtard space does not exist
..... I just met someone of this description..... you are correct in this statement my friend.
@@AndyR1982same as me. Was told the sun and moon werent real and space didnt exist and the earth was flat with a clear dome around it that we couldnt get through, then was told about tartaria. Didnt know how to properly explain how they were so incorrect it hurt.
@MattBrunson , the best part is that the few people that I have personally met that believe this are atheists..... so when I asked well who built the dome? They say it has always been there.
No, nope, sorry. Can't have it both ways. Either the world is a globe and it is plausible either Creation OR the big bang happened. Or the earth is flat, under a dome, in a snow globe on God's desk for 100% Creationism. Because SOMEONE HAD RO BUILD THE DOME.
Weird that he choose the ark as a wmd when Indian traditions have so many depictions of stuff like that that it inspired Oppenheimer to makes nukes (he was quite possibly the most read scholar of these texts in modern history)
Yes India definitely had the absolute best description of wmd from our distant past. However, there are other legends or even events that seem very much like just that. Many locations across the world appear to have been hit by something beyond what we are told they had at the time. Huge structures seem melted or shattered apart...I could go on and on. I did a video about this and the Cathar Castles in France. Moscow, as Napoleon had pretty much conquered the city and was negotiating terms, many described what appeared to be a blinding light suddenly appearing in the sky that they described as a second sun. It struck the 'White City' and levelled a good part of it. The casualties close to the blast must have been devastating. The best account was a French officer and nobleman who watched from his position outside the city and he wrote a detailed account in his diary. They didn't get injured from the blast, however, as they immediately left, heading to safer ground, in the days and weeks to come, their horses began to get sick and die, the men began losing their hair, losing weight , skin issues and several died, which sounds a lot like radiation poisoning. Yet, there's no evidence that the Russians or the French possessed a weaponry that powerful in the 1800s. Especially one that would cause symptoms of radiation poisoning and many deaths. And as for the Ark of Covenant. If you read different accounts of this mysterious 'connection to God.' If certain people approached it, they got terrible sick, some accounts are that it caused their skin and eyes to melt etc. When it was stolen and brought to a town, people who came in contact with it began mysteriously dying. When they got to the outer stone wall at Jericho, they circled the city 7 times with the Ark, then they sounded the trumpets and the walls crumbled. That sounds like energy/sound frequency technology. And it had to be kept in a carefully crafted container made out of wood and gold with very precise dimensions, perhaps to keep it stabilized. And they had to build a temple ...'' the Holy of Holies'' to house it and only trained high priests could enter wearing special safety gear with different coloured stones on their chests. Those guys went blind rather fast and didn't live long. So, what is it? I have no idea but it sounds rather dangerous. There are many more stories but who knows if any of this is actually true. There's no concrete proof that it ever existed other than legends and drawings....
@@Poetessa2The Word of GOD says so and it is true❤
I'm not great with history, but I enjoy learning about it and hate how people find it boring. The fact that my dad cared to bring me to battlegrounds and museums while also having lots of history documentaries on helped me find history engaging. I wish we as a society cared to do this more for younger generations.
My favorite part was when he said " It's debunkin time", and then debunked everywhere
@SamBANKmanHeeb Mind Unveiled? Yeah, those Tartaria videos are like watching flat earth videos. Conspiracy theories are fun, but having to make as many leaps in logic as you do to accept the Tartaria conspiracy is wild.
Cringe
I was so confused for a moment there 😂 I watch Charlie too, so I had a moment where I was like "But I just put lore lodge on..?"... Then the ooOooo moment haha
I had a fantastic history teacher, which is why I appreciate the work you fine young men are doing. OTOH, Tartaria, as weirdly interesting as it is, makes my brain itch.
The issue I take with it certainly isn’t the question of “are we missing a chapter”, it’s the utterly unsupported claims about buried cities and ancient technology as if this is all something that should be obvious to people haha
But your brains perfectly at peace with the disneyfied fairytales programmed into the youth at the public brain-cemeteries we call education . Gimme a break
This whole video summed up in one thought “this one guy says a bunch of shit that’s super verifiably wrong and I took that personally.”
Love your content man.
Blimps and airships are actually really useful technologies that if done right are a lot more economically feasible than planes in a lot of ways, the main issue were having currently is that they kind of work too well, we need an efficient way of descending without sacrificing on the ability to lift cargo
Also a new gas that isn't flammable (hindenburg) or as rare as helium which has other uses and is dwindling in supply.
The problem with this subject is both sides will argue their point til they cant breathe anymore neither will give in and say oh yea you’re right that doesn’t make sense.. in all fairness im somewhere in the middle cuz where and why did all those giant architectural structures from the old world just come from…
Mind Unveiled may do a rebuttal vid but to save you and us from having to watch that I think it's best if you and Mind Unveiled meet up, off camera, with your books, jpegs and TH-cam links and nut this all out amongst yourselves. Feel free to team up and make a conclusion vid together. That'd be great.
Oooh, that's a great idea - but ONSCREEN! I'd love to see that, am v fond of mind unveiled and would be good to see some sensible discussion of the specific points of disagreement. If LL could put his sneering down for a little while that could be really interesting. Open and detailed discussion of these things is what we all want, right?
Maybe he could knock their fascist ass out too
I like The Why Files and this channel because its nice to have someone be genuinely honest about these stories instead of playing up the fantastical elements of it for veiws.
Thanks for your work my dude 🤘
as an illinois resident, i kind of love the idea that whoever moved out here in the first place just stumbled upon chicago already existing
Tartaria and the whole Mud Flood thing is super interesting to learn about even though it's obviously bullshit but it could definitely be good for setting up a fantasy story or a long DnD/Pathfinder homebrew campaign.
Bro I’m gonna have to mention that to my DM
@biglemonyman5956 I'm glad I could help with some inspiration for the next campaign.
@@26th_Primarch he loves coming up with new campaigns especially stuff based on conspiracy theories so thanks
How is it obvious bullshit?
@@CassandraPekar I’m guessing you didn’t watch the video
Now I want a Aiden and Charlie Collab
So do we
I have said it once and I will say it again. Isaac Newton is one of the most influential men of all time in both Physics and Math. He invented calculus and made strides basically founding the modern interpretation of classical mechanics and made great strides understanding optics. However his historical and theological takes leave something to be desired.
There's a lot to debunk there, without having recourse to abuse, such as "This is stupid etc." We know most about the heresies from the people who condemned them & destroyed them. Civilization originally developed in India, and China.
This is the first time I've heard of this nonsense and as an historian of Irish descent, it makes me question whether the internet is a good tool or a complete curse.
You know, I feel like you’re covering this from an entirely Watsonian perspective here.
You haven’t asked the Doylist questions of why the world builder would set up a bunch of misunderstood maps for people to encounter of a fallen, mystical empire and are likely to completely blow off the adventure hooks at the rate you’re going.
As an Irish person, I can personally say this is all true
Lmao ye cheeky bastard hahaha
This video really reminds me of the passion my middle school history teacher had for history. I was already falling in love with history since I grew up playing Civ 1 and 2 which made me look up information on the various leaders and civilizations but his passion really helped cement it for me. It's really cool to see the passion as I binge watch your channel after I found it recently.
Great video just a few comments!
While Roman Engineering did drastically decline, tmk this was occurring even during the Empire as Late Roman's lost information of their earlier techniques from their height.
While earlier Germanics groups did defintely raid and invade notably across the late antiquity period, Many of the Important groups (such as Franks) were actually hired mercenaries and naturally migrated into Rome and integrated. This is more noticeable of the Franks and Goths. They sort of start out with raids or as military combatants but are gradually brought into the Empire.
And LL is correct we don't use Dark Ages anymore, Early Medieval (generally the fall of Rome over to the 10/11/th century) is the usual term in Academia. There's also quite a bit of academia on how Germanic groups adopted Roman customs and practices in the formations of their new Kingdoms (look at Goths and Merovingian Franks early on) and how while Rome did fall and never truly rise again the same way, roman custom by no means vanished truly simply become merged with numerous "germanic" Customs.
Unlike quite a few other comments, this was insightful to read, thank you. I genuinely appreciate it. So many others are claiming Aidan is "reciting lies" and it's tiring to see everyone say "liar" and have no intention of backing it up with evidence.
@Elisa The Wanderer Aidan is far from a liar. generally he's making good points and the entire theory of Tartaria and New Chronology is like psycho lol. If I wanted to be a stickler I could probably find like 1 or 2 thing maybe but generally he gives what's necessary to combat a poor conspiracy
I'm an MA student for Medieval History and thought it would be worthwhile to make a comment. I'm glad you appreciate my nerd out lol
@Adamfaneufand late one night you hear a gentle knock on your door, after which you're never to be heard from or seen again. Muagghhhhh...
I love how the summary is literally just "Yeah it's like 10 old era things put together, they even have alchemy!"
I can, and would LOVE to believe the Catholic Church did something so wild. But it becomes literally impossible once you start saying *alchemy* is involved. And I'm just zeroing in on the alchemy part, that summary has a lot to bite into.
Edit: I paused the video to type this comment, unpaused, and WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ABOUT A SALMON???
I mean alchemy was the predecessor of chemistry. Distillation of alcoholic beverages to create spirits was discovered (in europe) by monks who were into fucking around with "alchemy". But yeah, I get alchemy is pretty much bullshit.
Why would the alchemy part of it throw you???
@burntgrilledcheese. Yes yes I do... And while you say it's nothing to do with gold and whatnot it is always been internally entwined with it throughout the ages
Have you considered making a series on pre-contact North American history? I really want to learn more and would trust you to not twist or omit facts, not to mention the way you speak is really engaging
It’s definitely something I’d like to cover, but it’ll take a while to put together a series on it just because of how many irons are in the fire
You should also definitely keep paying into Goolags engagement system. It’s definitely not TOTALLY obvious whose a bot and whose an actual human being.
Gotra admit, its fun to watch you respond to your tens of adoring bots.!!!
@@googleedwardbernays6455 it’s funny because his comments section is full of nothing but praise, suggesting he deletes negative comments, but you’re complaining about me responding to both supporters and detractors. It’s kind of sad how much y’all worship that guy.
@the lore lodge I thought of something last night that irritated me i had not figured it out years ago..
Out of necessity, internet was used to formulate & discuss viewpoints and narratives that conflict the Rockefeller-funded and “enforced” status-quo.
The most apparent example of this being public education/ programming.
For a while, everyone was cool with that arrangement and we left each other alone. But, like all good things, in come the neo-cons with their corporate interests to ruin the party.
Anyways, i find it ironic that this guy with his Rockefeller approved prevailing theories and narratives still finds it necessary to come to the aid of the status quo and ruling class.
Like, literally Mind Unveiled exists to debunk and challenge popular, prevailing belief systems that are jammed down our cultures throat against our wills. But here comes the invaders of our good time, the status quo guys like Ayden. The icing on the cake is his acting as though HE’s the outcast with the fringe/edgy POV. Also more icing, is his type is the first to yell about “safe spaces” , while at the same time wrecking anyone elses space.
Swear to God. Its like we cant have anything nice
Also, i brought up the fact that you could be paying into an engagement system and instead of addressing my claim, you start in with the Mind Unveiled nonsense.
❤️ Someone has a crush ❤️ and it ain’t me!!!
The fact that Charlie and Aiden could easily meet through Wendigoon makes the intro funnier, for some reason😂
Atn. Lore Lodge, I'd love you to do Doggerland, which is the closest thing we have (in my opinion) to a real Atlantis. I'm sure a lot of people don't know about it.
America IS Atlantis...
@@AndiCmartin No it isn't.
ur just discovering Doggerland.... lol, but yeah 😉ok
@@AndiCmartin I'm not just discovering Doggerland, I've known about it for long time. I'm suggesting to this channel that they might like to do a presentation on it.
A few years ago someone told me new Zealand might be Atlantis. I also heard a theory that the Sahara is Atlantis. Rand Flem Arth thought Antarctica was Atlantis.
Throw a dart at the world map and you'll hit a location that "might" be Atlantis.
The difference with Doggerland is that it actually was a substantial chunk or\f populated land that actually did sink beneath the ocean without a trace. Unlike America which is still high and dry;)
@@martinharris5017 alot of America is now gone/ Check old world Florida, great info
I don't think you've ever made me laugh as much as when you said 'The war of 1812!" Nothing could have possibly prepared me for that answer.
I've never looked into tartaria too deeply but always found it fun and interesting to listen to. nice to have a rational and factual perspective on it though
@Sam BANKman Heeb you calling people "normies" and using the word "jew" as an insult is all we need to know about how credible you are.
24:43 As an orthodox Christian, I can safely say we're used to being casually forgotten when people start making conspiracies about Christianity and the papcy.
Turning into a Salmon-man is more believable than the mud flood.
I always trust the info on this channel. On topic : There is the saying the history is told by the winners so I like to think some things might have been hidden or plainly destroyed to wipe out the cultures maybe nothing to this scale but warfare goes back all the way through evolution..
We’re not perfect, but I do try my best to give the most accurate information possible
This guy is so perplexed that he has wasted over 5 years of his life studying absolute nonsense that he resorts to childish insults....Shame really...And here's the funny thing....He knows it..but could never admit it.....Jeez he can't even look at the camera straight in the face (lens)
Sure thing buddy
This is black-israelite tier, i love it
Isn't basically the only thing from roman history we aren't sure on how to recreate the flame throwers that apparently burns on the ocean?
Like I know we struggled with how their concrete mix was as strong as it was but I remember recently I saw a video explaining why
I believe it had some limestone
Greek fire is really cool and there's some theories that it was probably crude oil based and we know some of the components and manufacturing, but it's very unknown
I thought that we had figured it out years ago.
Sir; you are so smart, it is a pleasure to hear your thoughts.
Literally just found your channnel yesterday. Im coming from the side of curiosoty and nearly WANTING to believe alternative history but im all new and want to learn everything. Ive heard of Atlantis amd Lomuria in the last month and myu only yesterday! This is great!
I'm irish and WAS NOT expecting this, oh my gee, i remember learning the salmon of knowledge in school, but totally forgot about it until now.
From what I remember, fionn caught the salmon and cooked it, but the salmon told him if he ate him he would gain all the knowledge, and not to do that. (I cant remember why) so Fionn agreed, and a blister came up on the salmon, fionn burst it with his thumb and instinctively sucked it, and that was game over then.
I have to look it up now, i cant remember why it was bad to eat the fish becaise they seemed to be having a reasonable conversation! Haha!
Hey Aiden... Did you know all of this information initially or did you research all of the info?
He doesnt know shit haha
A bunch of it was recall from college, but I went back and redid all the research for this video
@@TheLoreLodge college? That was your source? You get dumber by the minute with these responses bro maybe you should go back to your old jobs
@@jaywillingham4085 I actually did, and I have the forty pages of handwritten notes to prove it.
@@jaywillingham4085 I will literally post them lmao
I love the Tartaria conspiracy. One of my favorites.
Your videos are the best, man! Please never stop. It’s hard to find accurate historic information on TH-cam and you’ve become my favorite.
Haven't seen the full video yet, but as a Native American with history going back 12,000-24,000 years and a personal interest in science and architecture, I think this is going to be VERY interesting
Everyone that ever lived has a history from day one …..
@thomasmyers9128 History and ancestry are two different words, with different meanings! I think we're both smart enough to figure out how I was using the term :)
my history goes back further
Gotta say retconning all of history to be Irish is pretty funny
Even Barack O’bama
Sounds like a great D&D campaign
Stay teachable and question everything, curiosity fuels life and knowledge is strength
I’m happy for hearing this and hope that others are able to comprehend historical facts about all history in how you give so much thought and wisdom about attempting to make sense of sadly non educated humans so many thanks to you happy to share this
the catholic church is always rewriting they made Josheph a carpenter when he was a mason.
Eh, it’s a bit of a nitpick. He was more akin to a general contractor. Less specialization at the time, so you’d see that people were often proficient in everything it took to do a job.