One of my early memories, I recon was around 1967, was a trip to go look around the original Queen Mary at the Ocean Terminal. The ship was interesting but what really fascinated me was all the dock railways with diesel shunters milling around. Lots of people too. The place was truely alive. Strangely enough I don't recall seeing a single car! How times change. But it's good there's still some rail traffic there. My other memory must be from the early 1970's of an 03 shunter running light engine along the sea front between Eastern and Western Docks. Health & Safetly was less of an issue back then - it hurtled over the open level crossing we were at at about 4 times what your train was doing!
This is great to see this route from the driver view as it’s quite a rare treat, the line is still used to this day from time to time(only freight use) and there is constant talk that the line will eventually be used again for passenger service down to the terminal including creating a station at st Mary’s stadium for use on match days. The problem with creating a station at st Mary’s stadium though or even down to the terminal is that the track is not connected onto southampton, it would only go on to st Denny’s and upto eastleigh and beyond so passengers coming from southampton will have to change at st Denny’s, they say it’s not possible to create a section of flow track down to southampton and beyond as the curve coming out of southampton is too great to make it safe Thanks for the video, nice to see this in action
@@johnholmes912 I don't think there would be the demand. It's only a 20 minute walk from Southampton Central and a lot of people stop off in the city centre for food and drink.
Just before Northam Bridge on the up side was the site of Northam Jct box. Opposite that was where my site office was for the 1980-82 St Denys Totton resignalling (It was still a Rugby cement siding then). The track round to Dibles wharf was still there, and I regularly walked round Northam curve prior to relaying and track slues to raise the speed up from 15mph to 25mph! The car trains then were transits and Metros with the occasional passenger boat train behind a 73. Sadly, I saw all the Southampton area boxes go, including the huge 4 track semaphore gantries. We were still using steam track relaying cranes up to the 80's. So yes, seeing this brought back a few memories!!
I remember many years ago whilst working on the railway at Waterloo, had a job to the docks from Waterloo with a great driver. When we got stopped at a docks level crossing a photographer took a number of pictures of the loco, (Class 73), we were working. A few months later that photo appeared on the cover of a railway magazine, can't remember the name could have been "Modern Traction" or "Modern Railways" or one of a number of others being published in those days..
I’ve collected new BMWs from the logistics place on the left as you enter the docks for work. I’ve been over that level crossing many times in my work truck.
Great to see it from that perspective... seen that quayside before whilst waiting to load onto one of the RoRos.. watched the amazing site of Jags, Minis and Freelanders being driven (very fast!) off the autocarriers and onto the ships for export, then all the drivers jumping in the minibusses to go back and do it again..and again. Can't imagine the port allowing a sightseeing charter down there... took ages to get passes just to drive in.
Brilliant video, loved seeing the parts of the line to the Docks that you don't normally get to see as a passenger. If you ever do the St. Denys to Fareham line make sure you give us a wave, my live webcam is in between Bitterne & Woolston :-)
A rare treat, thank you. Not often you see a passenger train down there but seeing it from the front window is certainly a bonus.👍👌😁 With today's technology, I wonder if charter trains will ever start showing this view on screens in the coaches, maybe just in the buffet? Maybe put a big screen in one coach and charge a supplement for it. Might sell; might not, could be worth trying though.😁
@@RailMart I would love to see a cab ride via the Romsey to Eastleigh line (via Chandlers Ford) as I use to live very close to the line and my grandad use to take me to watch the line when he knew freight trains would be passing along it
Used to work Ripple Lane to Southampton freightliners and at Northam junction we always turned right towards Southampton station,so wondered what it looked like going straight on the docks! Thanks for posting, wondering what cars(make &model) were in car pound under white protection film in docks were though?
Stop obtain white light before proceeding. The crossings lights are trainman operated train will pass over a treadle switch then come to a stand before they can be operated.
Not sure but got off Caernarfon Castle from Cape Town there in 1954 aged 5 to catch express up to Waterloo, think engine was Princess Elizabeth ( but why would she have been on Southern Region??? )
Lord Dowding was broken up. I think the engine you saw might have been Braunton (a West Country engine numbered 34046) masquerading as Lord Dowding (a Battle of Britain engine numbered 34052), they are basically the same class.
@@TIMBOWERMAN I am confused, BRAUNTON was filmed last week in Crewe by 'Mini Wistaston Junction on Tour' it's on TH-cam, but now you say this is Braunton, Tim please help, and thanks in advance.
One of my early memories, I recon was around 1967, was a trip to go look around the original Queen Mary at the Ocean Terminal. The ship was interesting but what really fascinated me was all the dock railways with diesel shunters milling around. Lots of people too. The place was truely alive. Strangely enough I don't recall seeing a single car! How times change. But it's good there's still some rail traffic there. My other memory must be from the early 1970's of an 03 shunter running light engine along the sea front between Eastern and Western Docks. Health & Safetly was less of an issue back then - it hurtled over the open level crossing we were at at about 4 times what your train was doing!
Excellent film, I used to drive for SWT and always wondered what was down there, now I know.
This is great to see this route from the driver view as it’s quite a rare treat, the line is still used to this day from time to time(only freight use) and there is constant talk that the line will eventually be used again for passenger service down to the terminal including creating a station at st Mary’s stadium for use on match days.
The problem with creating a station at st Mary’s stadium though or even down to the terminal is that the track is not connected onto southampton, it would only go on to st Denny’s and upto eastleigh and beyond so passengers coming from southampton will have to change at st Denny’s, they say it’s not possible to create a section of flow track down to southampton and beyond as the curve coming out of southampton is too great to make it safe
Thanks for the video, nice to see this in action
they could re-instate northam station, and use that for the stadium
@@johnholmes912 I don't think there would be the demand. It's only a 20 minute walk from Southampton Central and a lot of people stop off in the city centre for food and drink.
Just before Northam Bridge on the up side was the site of Northam Jct box. Opposite that was where my site office was for the 1980-82 St Denys Totton resignalling (It was still a Rugby cement siding then). The track round to Dibles wharf was still there, and I regularly walked round Northam curve prior to relaying and track slues to raise the speed up from 15mph to 25mph! The car trains then were transits and Metros with the occasional passenger boat train behind a 73. Sadly, I saw all the Southampton area boxes go, including the huge 4 track semaphore gantries. We were still using steam track relaying cranes up to the 80's.
So yes, seeing this brought back a few memories!!
I remember it as Southampton Down Yard in the late 80’s having worked one or two freight trains out of there. 👍
Loved that! Always going to Southampton by car and train and now to pass the normal way and travel down to the docks was just brilliant! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the captions on your videos. Very useful and informative.
Glad you like them!
Thanks for a brilliant video a brilliant insight into what happens at the port where all the Range Rovers are unloaded
nice video The docks are a change from the glory days but glad to see it is still thriving with the motor traffic from a rail point of view.
I remember many years ago whilst working on the railway at Waterloo, had a job to the docks from Waterloo with a great driver. When we got stopped at a docks level crossing a photographer took a number of pictures of the loco, (Class 73), we were working. A few months later that photo appeared on the cover of a railway magazine, can't remember the name could have been "Modern Traction" or "Modern Railways" or one of a number of others being published in those days..
i used to love soton terminus station, so convenient for the floating bridge
I’ve collected new BMWs from the logistics place on the left as you enter the docks for work. I’ve been over that level crossing many times in my work truck.
Brilliant, was lucky to do that journey from cruise terminal to London Waterloo 1974 after being on a cruise on
SS Northern Star
Great to see it from that perspective... seen that quayside before whilst waiting to load onto one of the RoRos.. watched the amazing site of Jags, Minis and Freelanders being driven (very fast!) off the autocarriers and onto the ships for export, then all the drivers jumping in the minibusses to go back and do it again..and again. Can't imagine the port allowing a sightseeing charter down there... took ages to get passes just to drive in.
Glad you enjoyed it
No one was permitted to get off.
Brilliant video, loved seeing the parts of the line to the Docks that you don't normally get to see as a passenger.
If you ever do the St. Denys to Fareham line make sure you give us a wave, my live webcam is in between Bitterne & Woolston :-)
Glad you enjoyed it!
True understatement:
09:30 overtakes a steam charter, without comment.
Nice as a native of S.E. Hampshire to see inside the docks. Always having, till now, to imagine.
Living near Southampton I have photographed trains going into the docks, so it is nice to see the hidden parts of the single track.
Great video thanks for sharing. A few years ago I was lucky enough to do the line as a passenger with UK Railtours.
Nice one
I note it passed WC class pacific 34046 Braunton masquerading as 34052 Lord Dowding in the passing loop at Northam.
Excellent video, loved it
Glad you enjoyed it
Great experiance watching this thank you
So nice of you
Thanks so much for that one, always wanted to see this line from the cab. I like the signage at the QE2 terminal.
Glad you liked it!
Another excellent video, I remember this tour it was the tour with the DB 66s TnT formation
Cheers
Excellent and very interesting
Glad you think so!
A rare treat, thank you. Not often you see a passenger train down there but seeing it from the front window is certainly a bonus.👍👌😁
With today's technology, I wonder if charter trains will ever start showing this view on screens in the coaches, maybe just in the buffet? Maybe put a big screen in one coach and charge a supplement for it. Might sell; might not, could be worth trying though.😁
I use to work in Ocean Village and often had to wait as a train crossed the road into the docks.
Great to see it from a driver's perspective
Glad you enjoyed it
@@RailMart I would love to see a cab ride via the Romsey to Eastleigh line (via Chandlers Ford) as I use to live very close to the line and my grandad use to take me to watch the line when he knew freight trains would be passing along it
I do have that on video off the same charter. Will look at posting at some point.
@@RailMart that would be absolutely amazing
@@neilwilkins7686 I did that trip for 5 years going from Romsey to Barton Peveril Grammar. I worked out it was about 2000 journeys.
Lovely stuff. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice one! Good to see Jools (aka Blister) hard at work.
Great video, never made it that far when I worked for SWT.
Hello from Tennessee!!
Morning!
Love this thank you!
What can I say but yet another great video
Thanks again!
nice journey thank you.
Thank you too
Trees have grown up since I lived in Swaythling 1973/74
Used to work Ripple Lane to Southampton freightliners and at Northam junction we always turned right towards Southampton station,so wondered what it looked like going straight on the docks! Thanks for posting, wondering what cars(make &model) were in car pound under white protection film in docks were though?
Great stuff. My home town, surprised so few people about in the the docks.
Yep it was a Saturday though.
Interesting video, thanks. One small thing: “sojourn”
Ok, thanks
If the QE2 terminal has a railway platform, do they run passenger trains to it for cruise sailings?
They used to. There is talk of starting again next year.
I assume from the foliage that this was NOT the 5th November 2016 charter that derailed just before the Canute Rd LC. !!??
Very nice video, I would have liked to know what the steam train was that we passed.
Battle of Britain class 34052 Lord Dowding (rebranded from West Country class 34046 Braunton)
Hmm...I guess not interested in the Bullied Pacific on the down loop? Great video though.
Whats the point of the red signal/shunting signal at the first docks level crossing?
Stop obtain white light before proceeding. The crossings lights are trainman operated train will pass over a treadle switch then come to a stand before they can be operated.
@17:36 I think that was a storage yard full of wrapped up Rolls Royce Cullanins SUVs.
Couldnt tell you
Not sure but got off Caernarfon Castle from Cape Town there in 1954 aged 5 to catch express up to Waterloo, think engine was Princess Elizabeth ( but why would she have been on Southern Region??? )
Participating in British Railways Inter Regional Locomotive Exchange during 1950s.
An idea for sound. Put a second camera in the rear of the train, that is what most other people do.
Was this filmed on 9thJuly 2016, by any chance? The give away is at 9:40, where you pass Galatea. I saw her go through Winchester that day.
No it wasn't. it was this tour. www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/10s/170408uk.htm
I think that was West Country Braunton passed at 9.40.
34052 Lord Dowding 😉
I notice there's now live port of Dover.. Strange? 😂
So why was this train so important? does it not run often to this port?
Hi. It was a special charter train. We call it a cranks special or a crankex.
It's mainly car carriers use this line taking cars for export, hence the large car transporter ships.
18:25 Jensen Interceptor
9:44 Lord Dowding
Lord Dowding was broken up. I think the engine you saw might have been Braunton (a West Country engine numbered 34046) masquerading as Lord Dowding (a Battle of Britain engine numbered 34052), they are basically the same class.
@@TIMBOWERMAN I am confused, BRAUNTON was filmed last week in Crewe by 'Mini Wistaston Junction on Tour' it's on TH-cam, but now you say this is Braunton, Tim please help, and thanks in advance.