Crin is a good guy but that's doesn't make him a tuning magician. As I have already posted, I'll order the HBB as well and compare to the zero 2. The lesser one, it will be returned to Amazon.
@@Hijynx87 glad to hear from a fellow Doscinco fan. Yeah I had to chance to listen to the hype 4s in a store, and thought it sounded too clean for my liking. Doscinco had more weight to the sound :)
I have just bought the zero 2 for 18€ on an Amazon sale. But after this video I'll give a shot to the hbb. Once compared them both, I'll return the worst sounding for my tastes. Thank you for review coz I didn't even know about HBB.
Good that you did this in more granular price categories, myself and others were asking.. Thanks for that.. BTW what do you think of Mele? There is a set here going for super cheap.. I have nothing even vaguely like an all rounder right now..
Fun fact, i bought some time ago Razer Hammerhead pro v2 gaming earphones just out of curiosity. Swear to god, they are the worst earphones I have ever bought. Ugly muddy bass and the rest is muddy as well. Average headset that comes with your Xiaomi phone is way better.
Very nice video for beginners or people with lower budget. I’m relatively new to this hobby so still trying to figure out my taste. I got EA500LM over a month ago but realized that they are too bright, peaky for me. Now, I know that I like warmer tunings with more bass and less treble. What would you recommend under $150 that’s warmer with good bass, less treble but not muddy? I don’t even know if it’s possible to have a not muddy sound with what I’ve just described. 😅 I ordered Zero RED because according to reviews and frequency graphs, its treble area is very smooth and I can also increase the bass with the impedance adapter if I need to. Do you think I’d like the REDs based on my description? If I like the tuning of the REDs, I may sell EA500LM and get something more expensive with a similar tuning to the REDs. I’m not trying to have a collection of IEMs, I’m just trying to find what I like so I can get something good and never look back again. 😅 That’s why I’m getting relatively cheap IEMs to figure out what I like so I can level up to more expensive ones with more confidence.
bought my first iem which is the simgot ew200, mostly for gaming and listening to music watching movies/streams.. im looking to buy a 2nd set, which would you recommend? i wanted to stay around the same budget bracket, sub $60 since im new to iem and dont really fully grasp what my taste are/sound profile.. for the ew200, i do not like the high tone frequency that force me to lower my volume on certain videos but i enjoy the overall sound.
Hey Jay, was looking for a pair of budget iems for vocals - clean, clear and natural with just a bit of energy. I listen to male vocals-only audio, so kind of niche (R&B-like). Basically just want a cheap IEM to carry around that will give me the best/most accurate listening experience for that while the vocals being just a bit forward/energetic. I was trying to decide between the LANs and the KE Cadenzas for this. (Both about $35) That being said could you recommend anything in this budget range? The metal build of the LANs are kind of appealing to be honest. Idk if they fit the bill.
@@jayyaudio Thanks for this, I tried the Q1 Pro and unfortunately got a pair that was pretty sibilant when it came to vocals, but to be fair I think it may have been a QC issue because it was getting shouty even with lower energy tracks. Is the G10 by chance warmer than the Q1 Pro?
@@jayyaudio Thanks! Although I heard it was silently retuned and now sounds shouty and fatiguing than the earlier models. Is it still worth getting after that?
Hi jay, have you tried the Noble Stage 3? If so, what are your opinions on them and do you think they are a good deal for $480? Anyway love the content!
Hi Jay do you still think the truthear zero red can be a endgame iem for beginner, or there is something better, I’m not an audiophile, I just love music and I’m thinking about buy the zero red. (Already have the tangzu waner and quiet like it )
@@ChillyWillLee im quiet new here but Jay made a video about the truthear zero red can be a endgame iem for beginner, so I’m just asking randomly and hoping for an answer from him hehe
@@kygo8303You wont get an honest answer from jay the simgot shill. with that said, the truthear x crin blue or reds are good because crin tuned them. That is all you need to know
@@ChillyWillLeeyou're wrong, it's your channel that is based on worshiping crinacle and can't take a critic. Just look at your comment "Not credible. You don't know audio unlike Crinacle" LOL
You don’t have to be an audiophile, but it takes only a good hybrid or even a planar under $150 to wipe out the word endgame out of your vocabulary. That being said, Zero Red is a great product. I own a set myself. Crin has done a good job with this collab. That being said, its Harman tuning is more for pop or EDM music. For Rock or Metal or Jazz I’d chose something else. Something more flat / neutral.
They are fairly similar and you could probably EQ the wan'er to the zero red curve. the wan'er has more bass and the red has more treble extension. not sure how well the wan'er would EQ in the treble to match that. if zero red is endgame then so is wan'er. it is subjective in that sense.
I totally agree. The QKZxHBB is still great, and the One DSP is a great set. Rosefinch is fun, if you like the tucked bass the KZ Castor black. I have to assume the Zero2 I got was defective, because it had no bass.
On trips i like to listen to chill music like can we kiss forever, dont wake me up, minecraft soundtrack and like to watch movies. Have kz castors bass what could i buy to suit this music ? All switches off work but somethink is missing. Sub 30 $
@@ChillyWillLeenumber 1 crin fanboy strikes again. Yeah Jay who reviews like one iem a day knows nothing, crin who only makes videos marketing his iems is who knows, lol. I wish i could be this ignorant.
@@jayyaudio what would be a nice upgrade from zs10 to not break the bank, Blon x hbb z300 or Artti r2 or SIMGOT EW200 or Moondrop Lan ? want something for gaming and youtube
One reason might be because there's so many versions of it now. Akros has done a few videos comparing the different revisions. The original tuning was the best in my opinion. I thought I was going to get that tuning when I bought it but got one of those revisions instead. The Hanadomi B2 is the same iem as the og XSL X-One with a different name and I've been very happy with it. Another reason (most likely the biggest one) it's not being talked about much is that I'm pretty sure they aren't actively sending out samples to reviewers and aren't as well known like Moondrop, Simgot, 7hz, etc.
Came into the video not expecting much but I came out of it pretty informed. Very nice job. I would say that the wan er's earlier pinna rise does make it a bit different than the ew100p by making it slightly more "musical" but yea... Good short video!
@@ChillyWillLee thank you for your most helpful, lucid and illuminating comment. I’m sure you have better things to do with life than make purile comments, or perhaps not.
@@AndrewTH-camhandleYou're commenting to get acknowledgement from jaysaudio. I responded to tell you the truth, we are not the same 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Unless I have won some kind of driver quality lottery, I'd say that the wan'er is king on it's price point. Some of the iems you cited have less instrument separation/clarity like chu2 and 7hz zero 2. QKZxHBB is good but I'd still lean towards the wan'ers. Sound is subjective when based on taste so I may be wrong. Finally the truthear zero reds are boring and for metal for example are disgustingly bad, unless of course, my set is defective and I'm not aware.
@@ChillyWillLeeJay profits? I tought Crin profited by pushing his overrated iem's to a mass of ignorant people who buy into anything he advertises... Yeah sure Jay who profits by making a video...
You should add the legato back to your recommendation lists. That thing still slams. Hades has more mid bass and definition but the legato has sub bass and mid bass balance on lock 🔒
@@ChillyWillLee I've just had a look at the comment section and it's full of you showing us your child like behavior. The best thing you can do when it comes to audio is to learn how to read graphs and form your own opinions. That being said he's quite literally the only non sponsored reviewer which I feel like says a lot about him. Just bc he said the dusk isn't anything otherworldly like the other 200 youtubers that are more famous than him (and that you've probably watched) have said it doesn't mean his channel is dedicated or built on hating on crin, he just doesn't think the dusks are as good as crin made them out to be. I've personally gotten the t10s after I discovered them through one of his videos and after having owned the s12 I can say that his thoughts were pretty accurate. Sharur is a whole different story I occasionally watch him for some laughs but then again I don't feel like his channel is about hating on crin either I just think he hates on anything that isn't harman tuned and bases his opinion based on performance and not his hearing. Jays comments are also pretty chill so I don't know where you got that last part from either.
Hey Jay, not related to this particular video, but i just want to thank you for your upgrade guide and videos. I got the doscinco based on them and am really happy with the doscinco! Keep at it :)
@@ChillyWillLeeCrin fanboy so ignorant doesn't even know the doscinco isn't from simgot LOL 😂🤣 You only know Crin collabs right? Yeah keep watching his "unbiased" channel, it's only a coincidence he only makes videos advertising his collabs
recently let my friend try my Holas and he thought they were good, but when I told him the price he was truly surprised. It sucks that they discontinued them. Also 😎
Hmm...Hola the legenda of budget iem thats extincted woops..discontinued..still the best nostalgia of all yet..Peace! Watch out the 1 who owned it..ha3 gettin super rare audiophiliacs..Peace2!
Not including the kz castor bass is criminal. It obliterated the wan'er for me, and even beat out the rhapsodies and trios personally. Though it might be a bit v shaped for some ofc.
Please watch out for the haterofclout guy spamming the comments
Just know that you're only making your daddy Crin look bad ^^
🐈🐈🐈
This video was brought to you by SimGoat
I'm convinced it's just sharur in disguise trying to make genuine crin fans look bad lmao
Thanks for the video, Jay.
Incidentally, your audio level is quite low, compared with other TH-cam videos.
Crin is a good guy but that's doesn't make him a tuning magician. As I have already posted, I'll order the HBB as well and compare to the zero 2. The lesser one, it will be returned to Amazon.
I got the doscinco based on your guides and loved it. Thanks! Keep it up!
Same lol, thing is great. It’s so damn close to hype 4, especially if your hearing is shit.
@@Hijynx87 glad to hear from a fellow Doscinco fan. Yeah I had to chance to listen to the hype 4s in a store, and thought it sounded too clean for my liking. Doscinco had more weight to the sound :)
I have just bought the zero 2 for 18€ on an Amazon sale. But after this video I'll give a shot to the hbb. Once compared them both, I'll return the worst sounding for my tastes. Thank you for review coz I didn't even know about HBB.
how are they?
Pumping these out, hope vacation is going well
going great heh
Good that you did this in more granular price categories, myself and others were asking.. Thanks for that.. BTW what do you think of Mele? There is a set here going for super cheap.. I have nothing even vaguely like an all rounder right now..
if it's super cheap go for it, but it's more of a warm set, not very technical but very comforting
@@jayyaudio I have qkz hbb, I love them, it's just that you rapidly begin to hear the limitations of the driver..the tuning is perfect
Fun fact, i bought some time ago Razer Hammerhead pro v2 gaming earphones just out of curiosity. Swear to god, they are the worst earphones I have ever bought. Ugly muddy bass and the rest is muddy as well. Average headset that comes with your Xiaomi phone is way better.
how much better is the ea500lm compared to the chu 2 since they graph very similarly. is it worth the upgrade ?
much better
Very nice video for beginners or people with lower budget. I’m relatively new to this hobby so still trying to figure out my taste. I got EA500LM over a month ago but realized that they are too bright, peaky for me. Now, I know that I like warmer tunings with more bass and less treble. What would you recommend under $150 that’s warmer with good bass, less treble but not muddy? I don’t even know if it’s possible to have a not muddy sound with what I’ve just described. 😅 I ordered Zero RED because according to reviews and frequency graphs, its treble area is very smooth and I can also increase the bass with the impedance adapter if I need to. Do you think I’d like the REDs based on my description? If I like the tuning of the REDs, I may sell EA500LM and get something more expensive with a similar tuning to the REDs. I’m not trying to have a collection of IEMs, I’m just trying to find what I like so I can get something good and never look back again. 😅 That’s why I’m getting relatively cheap IEMs to figure out what I like so I can level up to more expensive ones with more confidence.
bought my first iem which is the simgot ew200, mostly for gaming and listening to music watching movies/streams.. im looking to buy a 2nd set, which would you recommend? i wanted to stay around the same budget bracket, sub $60 since im new to iem and dont really fully grasp what my taste are/sound profile.. for the ew200, i do not like the high tone frequency that force me to lower my volume on certain videos but i enjoy the overall sound.
no big difference under $100, I'd save up for Simgot EM6L
Hey Jay, was looking for a pair of budget iems for vocals - clean, clear and natural with just a bit of energy. I listen to male vocals-only audio, so kind of niche (R&B-like).
Basically just want a cheap IEM to carry around that will give me the best/most accurate listening experience for that while the vocals being just a bit forward/energetic.
I was trying to decide between the LANs and the KE Cadenzas for this. (Both about $35)
That being said could you recommend anything in this budget range? The metal build of the LANs are kind of appealing to be honest. Idk if they fit the bill.
EPZ G1 (or Q1 Pro for something cleaner)
@@jayyaudio Thanks for this, I tried the Q1 Pro and unfortunately got a pair that was pretty sibilant when it came to vocals, but to be fair I think it may have been a QC issue because it was getting shouty even with lower energy tracks.
Is the G10 by chance warmer than the Q1 Pro?
Thanks. I like to look at $25 range IEMs to gift to people.
great gift ideas for sure
Stop wasting your time with jaysaudio who knows nothing about audio and buy yourself and loved ones the 7hz x Crinacle Zero:2 then call it a day
Where does the EW200 stack up in this list? I can get it for $28 around the same as blon z300, q1 pro and tanchjim one.
at the top, grab it if it's $28
@@jayyaudio Thanks! Although I heard it was silently retuned and now sounds shouty and fatiguing than the earlier models. Is it still worth getting after that?
7hz zero 2 or hbb
Hi jay, have you tried the Noble Stage 3? If so, what are your opinions on them and do you think they are a good deal for $480? Anyway love the content!
havent heard yet sorry!
Get the Dusk 2. All Noble iems are bad (except K10)
Hi Jay do you still think the truthear zero red can be a endgame iem for beginner, or there is something better, I’m not an audiophile, I just love music and I’m thinking about buy the zero red. (Already have the tangzu waner and quiet like it )
@@ChillyWillLee im quiet new here but Jay made a video about the truthear zero red can be a endgame iem for beginner, so I’m just asking randomly and hoping for an answer from him hehe
@@kygo8303You wont get an honest answer from jay the simgot shill. with that said, the truthear x crin blue or reds are good because crin tuned them. That is all you need to know
@@ChillyWillLeeyou're wrong, it's your channel that is based on worshiping crinacle and can't take a critic. Just look at your comment "Not credible. You don't know audio unlike Crinacle" LOL
You don’t have to be an audiophile, but it takes only a good hybrid or even a planar under $150 to wipe out the word endgame out of your vocabulary. That being said, Zero Red is a great product. I own a set myself. Crin has done a good job with this collab. That being said, its Harman tuning is more for pop or EDM music. For Rock or Metal or Jazz I’d chose something else. Something more flat / neutral.
They are fairly similar and you could probably EQ the wan'er to the zero red curve. the wan'er has more bass and the red has more treble extension. not sure how well the wan'er would EQ in the treble to match that. if zero red is endgame then so is wan'er. it is subjective in that sense.
How is the imaging amd sound separation in Ew100P?is it food for gaming?plzzzz reply
its $25, it's ok
Under 20$ For gaming I need to go with simgotEw100p or zeros 2 or tanzu?plzzzzzz reply.
is it worth getting nicehck f1 pro over hexa in that price range for all rounder,I dont want single dd
yup
The Simgot EW100p is still relevant and going strong, my favorite subs $20 set.
Ps: Please review the new Truther budget iem when it gets released 🙏
I totally agree. The QKZxHBB is still great, and the One DSP is a great set. Rosefinch is fun, if you like the tucked bass the KZ Castor black. I have to assume the Zero2 I got was defective, because it had no bass.
@@ChillyWillLee yeah Crin surely knows one thing: to make mindless zombies who worship him and consequently buy into anything he tells them to
On trips i like to listen to chill music like
can we kiss forever, dont wake me up, minecraft soundtrack and like to watch movies. Have kz castors bass what could i buy to suit this music ? All switches off work but somethink is missing. Sub 30 $
and aliexpress avilable plz
CCA TRIO
@@jayyaudio i hate switches xdd have castor Bass and after 1 h switching swapping still find my self changing them xd
i've heard that epz g10 is basically the same as the epz q1 pro?
is that real?
@@ChillyWillLee and why is that?
@@ChillyWillLeenumber 1 crin fanboy strikes again. Yeah Jay who reviews like one iem a day knows nothing, crin who only makes videos marketing his iems is who knows, lol. I wish i could be this ignorant.
Q1 pro is a cleaner, if you want more bass and less neutral go G10
@@jayyaudio ah, thank you
Just a quick question, how the ew200 ranked?
above all these
How about Tin C3? Have you tried them?
not under $25, but ya they're ok
Heybruh whats the best one under 100 dollars? Its gonna be my first iems
save up for Simgot Supermix 4 $150, all you need really
Dunu Titan S or Truthear Hexa!!
Is simgot ew200 direct upgrade over 7hz salnote zero?
ya
Where's the Castor and the Castor Bass?
where would you place KZ ZS10 PRO X at 24$ ? i know you dont like the company
it's decent if you want something bassy or slight v
@@jayyaudio for gaming and some youtube
@@jayyaudio what would be a nice upgrade from zs10 to not break the bank, Blon x hbb z300 or Artti r2 or SIMGOT EW200 or Moondrop Lan ? want something for gaming and youtube
Will you review Dita Project M ?
maybe we'll see too much stuff to review ha
Jay Audio based for this. Tyty!
Why no one talks about the real best budget iem, the XSL-X one....
One reason might be because there's so many versions of it now. Akros has done a few videos comparing the different revisions. The original tuning was the best in my opinion. I thought I was going to get that tuning when I bought it but got one of those revisions instead. The Hanadomi B2 is the same iem as the og XSL X-One with a different name and I've been very happy with it. Another reason (most likely the biggest one) it's not being talked about much is that I'm pretty sure they aren't actively sending out samples to reviewers and aren't as well known like Moondrop, Simgot, 7hz, etc.
Came into the video not expecting much but I came out of it pretty informed. Very nice job. I would say that the wan er's earlier pinna rise does make it a bit different than the ew100p by making it slightly more "musical" but yea... Good short video!
Comprehensive review! Sounds like quality under $25 has jumped forward since last year.
@@ChillyWillLee thank you for your most helpful, lucid and illuminating comment.
I’m sure you have better things to do with life than make purile comments, or perhaps not.
@@AndrewTH-camhandleYou're commenting to get acknowledgement from jaysaudio. I responded to tell you the truth, we are not the same 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
why chu 2 didnt make it in the list?
EW100P is better
@@jayyaudio so the chu2 is hyped. ill go with ew100p thanks for you opinion
@@jayyaudio you think that the ew100p is one of the best in this budget?
Unless I have won some kind of driver quality lottery, I'd say that the wan'er is king on it's price point. Some of the iems you cited have less instrument separation/clarity like chu2 and 7hz zero 2. QKZxHBB is good but I'd still lean towards the wan'ers. Sound is subjective when based on taste so I may be wrong. Finally the truthear zero reds are boring and for metal for example are disgustingly bad, unless of course, my set is defective and I'm not aware.
EW100P is that but with better extension, but if you want less uppermids waner is still good
looks like you struck someone's nerve judging by the comment section lol. nice vid btw
Great list now to the 100 bucks list 😁
@@ChillyWillLeeJay profits? I tought Crin profited by pushing his overrated iem's to a mass of ignorant people who buy into anything he advertises... Yeah sure Jay who profits by making a video...
@@ChillyWillLeeyou came to jay's video to reply on every comment hating on him? sad life bro🤣
What about the simgot supermix4 ? , I was going for the nova but yeah
@@ChillyWillLee should I go for it over the novas ?
@@ChillyWillLee you are so funny. What Crin said showed his bias to the IEM he helped create.
supermix4
@@ChillyWillLeeget a life and stf, you are embarrassing yourself 🤡
You should add the legato back to your recommendation lists. That thing still slams. Hades has more mid bass and definition but the legato has sub bass and mid bass balance on lock 🔒
Legato curb stomps the hades. I’m not a fan of the hades, but I never gave it more than an hour.
@@Hijynx87 the legato is seriously underrated. I get why people may not like hades but I still enjoy it
Thanks good review.
Thank you
Q1 pro is pretty great. I didn’t like the og zero either.
Good Review Jay!
I love bass!!!!
What would be an upgrade to tanchjim one? Thanks.. 🙂
EA500LM
buying anything harman in 2024
true unless it's $25
Amazing content as usual Jay!
Are we going to see a review on the new aful explorer anytime soon?
@@ChillyWillLee Jay is one of a kind in the entire audiophile community, why do you come here if you don't like such content in the first place?
once I get back
Yo fyi your audio levels are quite low in most your videos, I always have to pump my volume up.
thanks for the heads up
@@ChillyWillLee what's the point of knowing so much about audio when you don't share that knowledge? Crin doesn't do reviews anymore
@@ChillyWillLee I've just had a look at the comment section and it's full of you showing us your child like behavior. The best thing you can do when it comes to audio is to learn how to read graphs and form your own opinions. That being said he's quite literally the only non sponsored reviewer which I feel like says a lot about him. Just bc he said the dusk isn't anything otherworldly like the other 200 youtubers that are more famous than him (and that you've probably watched) have said it doesn't mean his channel is dedicated or built on hating on crin, he just doesn't think the dusks are as good as crin made them out to be. I've personally gotten the t10s after I discovered them through one of his videos and after having owned the s12 I can say that his thoughts were pretty accurate. Sharur is a whole different story I occasionally watch him for some laughs but then again I don't feel like his channel is about hating on crin either I just think he hates on anything that isn't harman tuned and bases his opinion based on performance and not his hearing. Jays comments are also pretty chill so I don't know where you got that last part from either.
Enjoying your review, and a funny moment reading crin's fan embarrassing himself
hahaha lol yup
I got the TRN Conch for $20, and KZ vader balanced for $20. total 40$ usd
Have you ever heard of the qoa gimlet??
nope sorry
That's very helpful. By the way, Hola is discontinued but i've heard it will be replaced by the upcoming Truthear Gate (probably a single DD?).
oo thanks for the info
Hey Jay, not related to this particular video, but i just want to thank you for your upgrade guide and videos. I got the doscinco based on them and am really happy with the doscinco! Keep at it :)
@@ChillyWillLee??
@@Tony_Arevalojaysaudio worships simgot while he attempts on making a living on hating Crinacle and Crin's successful collaborations
@@ChillyWillLeeCrin fanboy so ignorant doesn't even know the doscinco isn't from simgot LOL 😂🤣 You only know Crin collabs right? Yeah keep watching his "unbiased" channel, it's only a coincidence he only makes videos advertising his collabs
Sad to see no cadenza in the list
near the end
@@jayyaudio Dang, the short attention span virus hit me.
recently let my friend try my Holas and he thought they were good, but when I told him the price he was truly surprised. It sucks that they discontinued them. Also 😎
no 7hz zero 2 ? really bro ?
5:25 bro... watch the video
7z zero should be in all rounder category @@haziee3108
Conch sounds fabulous..
With red nozzles it’s great
@@Hijynx87 I go back and forth, depends on the music.. Mostly I use the red, sometimes the black, hardly ever the blue
A lot of your choices are old.
Ok... why does that matter? It just means they're still the best
@jayyaudio generally newer iems surpasses old one, but you said you buy these iems so that is understanable.
What about the tangzu waner?
@@ChillyWillLee thank you so much man!!!
lol hahahahha
EW100P is that but with better extension, but if you want less uppermids waner is still good
@@jayyaudio thank you man!
Hmm...Hola the legenda of budget iem thats extincted woops..discontinued..still the best nostalgia of all yet..Peace! Watch out the 1 who owned it..ha3 gettin super rare audiophiliacs..Peace2!
@@ChillyWillLeecalm down, Crin is not goint to f* you, just give your money to him by buying his overrated and overpriced iems and sh*t up already
Love my orca 🥰
Not including the kz castor bass is criminal. It obliterated the wan'er for me, and even beat out the rhapsodies and trios personally. Though it might be a bit v shaped for some ofc.
oops forgot about it cuz its kz