The Witch-king of Angmar - Epic Character History

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  • The Witch-king is the most loyal of Sauron's servants, and he is deadly in his own right. I had a great time with the video, and I thank you guys for recommending it! Thank you all for you support, enjoy! A big thank you to the online artists for their visual and audible pieces featured in this video! Also, thank you to Battle for Middle-Earth II: Rise of the Witch-King, and the Lord of the Rings Online for some of their pictures as well! I highly suggest playing those games, they are really good!
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  • @pingtangcalagan0554
    @pingtangcalagan0554 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1362

    if frodo turned into a wraight. he would be a funny looking mini nazgul

    • @70mjc
      @70mjc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Major Felipe Tangcalagan wight***

    • @wooshbaiter6841
      @wooshbaiter6841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      70mjc nope actually its wraith

    • @wooshbaiter6841
      @wooshbaiter6841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Utkarsh Kumar yeah i know i just thought it would be funny

    • @thehunter7422
      @thehunter7422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Ediyo87 Wraith is more closer to ghost . Wight is more like Undead . I know the war in the north is not Canon but imo they made the Nazgul look like ghostly figures while the barrow wights were ghost consuming real bones or bodies of soldiers . They way you kill them in the game a green spirit is released and the bones just fly away . So they're almost like Zombies in a way . Except they don't want to eat you . I'm not sure if there is any real descriptions about what they looked like but I think it made more sense from that games point of view . I mean why aren't they called Ringwights then if Wraiths and Wights are mentioned in here .? That wouldn't sound as good .

    • @TeslaKuhn8
      @TeslaKuhn8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thehunter7422 I don't know about that game, but I know from the "lotro" version the wights are usually "resurrected" beings. Their bodies animated by foul spirits that had previously served Sauron. The original inhabitants most often having flown away after death. They don't have rings or anything to tie them down, and I'm sure calling them into those bodies is more convenient somehow.

  • @carolrondou6161
    @carolrondou6161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +510

    Witch King, "Great. 100+ thousand warriors in this battle and I have to find the only woman. Damn."

    • @briansprinkle7855
      @briansprinkle7855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      destiny...shouldnta swiped right...

    • @halilobirro
      @halilobirro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      brian sprinkle damnnn lol

    • @66kaisersoza
      @66kaisersoza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      It was the dagger stab that broke the spell

    • @DarkestKnightshade
      @DarkestKnightshade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Of course he would meet the only woman. It was his doom.

    • @gunungmerapiapi1933
      @gunungmerapiapi1933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@66kaisersoza thank you, finally a Tolkien fan

  • @nakeddancinggnome
    @nakeddancinggnome 5 ปีที่แล้ว +489

    "The Witch-King's voice was never heard again in that age of the world." Well, seeing as how that age of the world technically ended 10 days later, that's not saying much.

    • @kenetmendoza2157
      @kenetmendoza2157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      It literally says that his voice was heard at least 10 days later hahaha.

    • @ThatDooDGino
      @ThatDooDGino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't agree

    • @alahad
      @alahad ปีที่แล้ว

      hahahahhaa

    • @joeneedstosleep
      @joeneedstosleep ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Does it matter that he wrote "age" and not "Age?"

    • @TJSaw
      @TJSaw ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

  • @scottphillips6005
    @scottphillips6005 7 ปีที่แล้ว +887

    Lord of the Rings so so damn complex. There's nothing else like it.

    • @Tovenaar13
      @Tovenaar13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Damn. I was just going to say that. LOL 40k FTW!!!

    • @lukegustafson940
      @lukegustafson940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      dark souls is probably the closest in complexity

    • @brimstonevalar6053
      @brimstonevalar6053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Oliver Dixon warhammer is based on tolkien

    • @lukaslakas6697
      @lukaslakas6697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The witcher?

    • @wesley5729
      @wesley5729 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Scott Phillips the Star Wars prequels

  • @AnthonyKhalil7
    @AnthonyKhalil7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1939

    It's a mind twister thinking about how Tolkien made all this up!

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      Most definitely! I love how complex it is with with the many names and dates. Thanks for watching!

    • @AnthonyKhalil7
      @AnthonyKhalil7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Men of the West I know right?! It's awesome!

    • @briana208
      @briana208 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Men of the West technically he "borrowed" every theme and timeline from a book called the Volsungasaga:) it's a super old book. pretty quick read and super exciting adventure. I highly recommend u make a comparison video. I don't wanna spoil anything for u:))

    • @bcpfinishes2791
      @bcpfinishes2791 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm sort of new to all of the works. Are all the details about the characters mentioned in the trilogy books the Hobbit? Thanks for making these videos!

    • @briana208
      @briana208 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Travis Bonaventure no, most referenced of the detail come from a book called silmirillion. It's a deeper version of entire history of middle earth from creation till the third age. It coveres many topics not seen in movie or trilogy. Smaller books exist but they are generally covered in silmirillion.

  • @gregmasseyify
    @gregmasseyify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I can imagine the witch King fashioning himself as the third dark Lord in some way in the fourth age. Less than sauron just as sauron was less than morgoth but still a formidable power for men alone to contend with.

    • @alpharius2omegaboogaloo384
      @alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank goodness for the timing of his death then.

    • @colinevans8619
      @colinevans8619 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean hey. It worked for Sauron.

  • @archades115
    @archades115 7 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    I think the Witch King is a better villain than Sauron. True, he was merely a servant of Sauron. But he did possess great power and will in his own right, and was not merely a shabby imitation of his master, as Sauron had been for Morgoth. This was an undead being of terrifying power, and perhaps was one of the few Men that truly cheated death.

    • @segundajuganda
      @segundajuganda 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@100percentNotaBot More like, DEATH cheated on him... As his existance is hopeless.

    • @jimmyboy131
      @jimmyboy131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      He certainly had a free will, because for thousands of years after Sauron was destroyed, he carried on, establishing his own rule and kingdom, and destroying the kingdoms of the enemies of his master. It's probably more accurate to say that he was completely sold out to and enslaved by Sauron, not that he didn't have a mind or will of his own. But he was so enslaved that he couldn't break away from his master.

    • @lrhty1825
      @lrhty1825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's a flawed interpretation of the character to claim that Sauron was simply a shabby interpretation of Morgoth. Indeed his motives, methods and goals all differed significantly from those of Morgoth.

    • @Fan_Made_Videos
      @Fan_Made_Videos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Did you read the Silmarillion or Book of Unfinished Tales? There's more to Sauron than just a shabby imitation, and he inflicted more damage to all Free Peoples in Middle-Earth at a scale tenfold to what anything the Witch King accomplished. Since the WK is a vassal for Sauron what he did himself is in essence an extension of Sauron's designs for what he wanted in Middle-Earth in the first place.

    • @pabloramos1022
      @pabloramos1022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      In the books Sauron is quite different to Morgoth. He was crafty, fond of complexity and industry. Morgoth was more of a pure evil god. Sauron was more of an evil bureaucrat and tree hater. (In that last tree bit he kind of is like Morgoth).

  • @KTChamberlain
    @KTChamberlain 7 ปีที่แล้ว +786

    If Frodo became a wraith he would have cramped their style in the process.

    • @freedinner886
      @freedinner886 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      KTChamberlain best comment

    • @miancu3
      @miancu3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      KTChamberlain “God damnit Frodo. It’s hard to advance ominously when we keep tripping over you.”

    • @nightcedargarden
      @nightcedargarden 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      If frodo became a wraith he would have been awesome, like Honey badger with power of necromancy.

    • @pingtangcalagan0554
      @pingtangcalagan0554 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      he would become a mini-me nazgul

    • @TheRoland19111
      @TheRoland19111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, but luckly for them, you cannot turn a hobbit into a wraith

  • @HeartlessRandomguy
    @HeartlessRandomguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nazgul, buying a black robe: Excuse me sir. I'd like to purchase... Shopkeeper: Who the hell's there?

  • @Mary.R.
    @Mary.R. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    *"Come not between a Nazgûl and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shriveled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye."*
    Honestly, one of the most goosebump-inducing quotes ever!

  • @tidepods2686
    @tidepods2686 7 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    I can imagine Frodo as a little 4 foot black dressed boy on a little pony with a butter knife

    • @70mjc
      @70mjc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tide Pods except Sting was no joke...

    • @samuelvine
      @samuelvine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I'm not even sure it really is a sword... more like a letter opener really. XD

    • @raymondhamill270
      @raymondhamill270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@samuelvine it's one hell of a letter opener

    • @El_Xrystos
      @El_Xrystos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@70mjc he didnt have sting at this point

    • @larry9228
      @larry9228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tide Pods I’m pretty sure it means he becomes invisible just like them, forced into the shadow realm powerless

  • @masseyfurguson8871
    @masseyfurguson8871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    *“This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!”*

  • @Cristov123
    @Cristov123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    I still have no idea why they don't make an HBO show chronicling the details of Middle Earth history and all the incredible stories that took place prior to the films. They could adapt The Silmarillion and the new legends stuff into a pretty amazing series. Game of Thrones, who?

    • @rockyhayes7699
      @rockyhayes7699 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think this to myself all the time. It would be epic

    • @the1ndiegamer811
      @the1ndiegamer811 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      It's the rights, tolkiens family is extremely stingy who gets to work with the content of LoTR.

    • @HovektheArtist
      @HovektheArtist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The 1ndiegamer yea and a few years ago someone got the rights to silmarillion but i cant remember who i just remember somethibg about a miniseries and that they were working on casting and a script

    • @zachstevens7382
      @zachstevens7382 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      SandBox H3ro while I would enjoy more movies or very well done tv shows... their is much left to the lore and the joy that tolkien wants for the reader of his books to find the stories and create his own thoughts and imagination from its guide lines. they would never do it justice but yes these stories should be told.

    • @Satanthony
      @Satanthony 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amazon is doing it. It's called "Wizard in the high Tower"

  • @EFC497
    @EFC497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I just want a backstory about all these once great kings before they succumb to evil

  • @tywinlannister4063
    @tywinlannister4063 7 ปีที่แล้ว +784

    Any man who calls himself the Witch King is no true Witch King. I will teach you that once I have won Sauron's war for him.

    • @fatdaddyeddiejr
      @fatdaddyeddiejr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Tywin Lannister that's just great.

    • @Monkeman554
      @Monkeman554 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Now I want to see Tywin be devoured by various Uruk-Hai, They want MANFLESH!

    • @sythlorde
      @sythlorde 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      how satisfying it is to actually be able to understand your comment!

    • @hugoakerlund5114
      @hugoakerlund5114 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oryx, The Taken King man flesh? Tywin is a god!

    • @OTBASH
      @OTBASH 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice. lol

  • @MenoftheWest
    @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +433

    I forgot to mention that it seems that the Witch-King and the other eight fought alongside the Necromancer at Dol Guldor when the White Council assaulted it in 2941 of the Third Age.

    • @Sivart343
      @Sivart343 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Men of the West Does it? I was under the impression Sauron had already left Dol Guldur when the White Council arrived, or that it was ambiguous.

    • @HovektheArtist
      @HovektheArtist 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sivart343 i thought his physical body had left but he left some of his ainur as a shade

    • @fallingbomb7421
      @fallingbomb7421 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Men of the West will you do a vid on Beren one- hand ?

    • @m.a.sboxing268
      @m.a.sboxing268 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Make the back story of the 9 men that expected the rings

    • @08aoc
      @08aoc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Em it seems? it was in the third hobbit movie!

  • @Vorontir1
    @Vorontir1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When the Witch King departs with his army, he rides a black horse and not his fell beast. That's a "movie-ism". Love your videos by the way.

  • @martintruman9530
    @martintruman9530 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Never noticed how Eowyn was of middle men descent. It's a fascinating piece of information thank you very much for doing these videos.

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Martin Truman Thank you so much for watching!

  • @Bluemilk92
    @Bluemilk92 7 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    I have never spared a single thought to whether the Witch King was from Westernesse. I guess that makes perfect sense. His death is so freakin' awesome, I swear I stopped breathing for like 10 seconds after reading Eowyns dialog, it was that epic. and the whole Dernhelm disguise is just amazing. I'll type it for any of your commenters who haven't read how much better it is in the books compared to the movie.
    "'Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!'
    Then Merry heard of all sounds in that hour the strangest. It seemed that Dernhelm laughed, and the clear voice was like the ring of steel. 'But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Eowyn I am, Éomund's daughter. *You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you if you touch him*.'"
    Makes me nearly overdose on awesome. Otherwise, the film is actually pretty faithful to the books in this scene. Even the actual fighting plays out the same. With her cutting off the beasts head in three strikes and the number of swings and dodges and shield breaking bit. It so bizarre that they did everything perfect, then lessen it by leaving out the best part.

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Bluemilk92 Very true! I agree, the book did it best! Gives me chills every time.

    • @StrawHatSogeking
      @StrawHatSogeking 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      To be honest i think the book version is too long winded

    • @Bluemilk92
      @Bluemilk92 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I wouldn't mind if they cut everything except the part that is in bold. Or even just the line "Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you if you touch him." It's just so badass!
      She's saying, if it's physically possible for you to die, if you're anything less than immortal, then you should fuck off. It doesn't matter if you're some great king or some inhuman monster. I will wreck your shit if you touch my family.
      Especially because literally everyone except Gandalf was terrified to face him. She's a legit hero

    • @QuinSkew
      @QuinSkew 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bluemilk92 Lesson learned. Don't talk just kill.

    • @calvinjohnstone2664
      @calvinjohnstone2664 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bluemilk92 certainly better than the girl Power feminist bullshit that eowyn spouts in Return😕😟😤

  • @valentine1713
    @valentine1713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    everybody says sauron lost the ability to shapeshift entirely but it only says he could no longer assume a pleasing form. that's not the same as not being able to change form at all.

    • @TF2Scout..
      @TF2Scout.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait he could shapeshift?

    • @valentine1713
      @valentine1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TF2Scout.. yea vampire bat and werewolf back in the day.

  • @RossHolt89
    @RossHolt89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great channel Yoystan.
    My daughter’s middle name is Eowyn because I love that name and she is badass shield maiden. Funnily though she is now 13 months old youngest of my 4 minions when she is upset and her cry is very loud, my wife and I say she sounds like Nazgûl scream 😳
    Skal 🍻🍻🍻🍻

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    He's such a cool character...

  • @singe0diabolique
    @singe0diabolique 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The Witch King is one of my favorite villains in all of fiction.

    • @zacglover3345
      @zacglover3345 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope that we meet the man who will become the witch king in rings of power

  • @OrinDac
    @OrinDac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    One of the most interesting things about this character is that he is to Sauron at Sauron is to Melkor. I've often thought it would be an interesting continuation of the Epic to have the witch-king resurface as an enemy of men in the fourth age. The same way that's Sauron himself came forth as an enemy of the free peoples after his master was defeated. But then again I don't know if he's been completely destroyed with the death or banishment of Sauron. That would be a question better left to Scholars such as yourself.

    • @morningstar577
      @morningstar577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah the Witchking is dead

    • @MrJumbo-zx1jt
      @MrJumbo-zx1jt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Morning Star
      When the one ring got destroyed he died.

    • @cr90captain89
      @cr90captain89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrJumbo-zx1jt well if he had his ring of power, he would have survived his masters demise, & remember the other 8 only died because they were caught in mt doom's eruption as they raced to Frodo.
      a volcano may i remind you is magical in nature,. so the witch king may still be out there.
      Tolkien left the witch kings ultimate fate vague for a reason.
      (yes, i know this comment is old)

    • @hattorihanzo562
      @hattorihanzo562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The witch king was bound to the ring with the destruction of the ring he was destroEd as well

  • @snakes3425
    @snakes3425 7 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    So anyone want a book about the Origins of the Witch-King and the Nazgul?

    • @jianfernandes1249
      @jianfernandes1249 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      hell yeah. And a movie or 3 about the witch-kings raid of arnor

    • @Scarecrow545
      @Scarecrow545 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Nah. Maybe some more backstory as part of some other tale, but part of their intrigue is the mystery.

    • @buckweetthesupernaturalsho4047
      @buckweetthesupernaturalsho4047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes i do

    • @Iqbalx1
      @Iqbalx1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      snakes3425 shadow of war kind of went into the nazgul backstory

    • @ferro1398
      @ferro1398 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Didn't the Battle for Middle Earth PC game do that?

  • @S0L1nv1ctus
    @S0L1nv1ctus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Witch king: what a woman !? Ahhh that's just cute. Wait a second ....oh shi....
    Narrator: and it was at that moment the witch king knew he fucked up.

    • @davidalvarezosorio2171
      @davidalvarezosorio2171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      S0L1nv1ctus 😂😂😂 you win the internet sir!

    • @nurkoleptik_art
      @nurkoleptik_art 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I instantly read it with morgan freeman's voice

    • @jahjah74
      @jahjah74 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You sir win life

  • @bitsandbobs3545
    @bitsandbobs3545 7 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    When the One ring was destroyed the power of the nine rings would also have been broken, so I dont think any of the Nazgul would have been able to return.

    • @70mjc
      @70mjc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Bits and bobs they would have simply died very shortly thereafter due to the rings they wore unnaturally extending their lives

    • @candlestyx8517
      @candlestyx8517 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      This is correct, Saurons ring is the master ring and the other 19 rings of power draw from the one ring. Once it was destroyed in doom, then all other rings immediately lost their powers. The ringwraiths had their spirits contained within their 9 rings, when the one ring was destroyed, So were their spirits.

    • @adrianciobanu5856
      @adrianciobanu5856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@candlestyx8517 elf rings dont have nathing with one ring

    • @aleksasestic463
      @aleksasestic463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adrianciobanu5856 Thay have

    • @Kakashi_OG_Dcuo-mi3vh
      @Kakashi_OG_Dcuo-mi3vh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aleksasestic463 no elf ring was ever used succesfully the elves sensed the rings for what they were and immediately removed them

  • @jondavidson9039
    @jondavidson9039 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's also interesting that the Witch King winds up getting stabbed in the leg by a blade taken from the very Barrow of one of his former enemies. Perhaps the blade had had an enchantment placed on it many centuries ago in case it was ever used against the Witch King, and had sat there in the tomb all that time, waiting to be used.....

    • @reachlol1
      @reachlol1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not so much intentionally and directly enchanted to be used against him, but weapons from the 2nd Age or Dunedain/Arnor made hold effect on him.

    • @LordMortanius
      @LordMortanius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The enchantment on the blade is "We fucking hate the Nazgul". Here's the relevant text: "So passed the sword of the Barrow-downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-kingdom when the Dúnedain were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar and its sorcerer king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will."

  • @MarlonOwnsYourCake
    @MarlonOwnsYourCake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "Glorfindel bade Prince Aegnor not to pursue him saying quote: 'do not pursue him'..."

    • @yunkinto
      @yunkinto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      500 IQ

  • @ferro1398
    @ferro1398 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really love that you show the different interpretations of characters and events by different artists.

  • @MiddleFingrTeknology
    @MiddleFingrTeknology 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Oh please, please, PLEASE do a nice in-depth video on the Istari from J.R.R., and, if possible, cover Christopher's notes, additions, interpretations, etc. You know, maybe from sources like "Unfinished Tales" and such of the like.
    Your educational analysis and explanations of Middle-Earth are FANTASTIC! Keep up the good work...!!

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MiddleFingrTeknology Thank you so much it means a lot! I'll add those videos to the video to-do list!

  • @jimbombadill
    @jimbombadill 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Sauron dosnt spy out Gollum ...its clearly said that Gollum is drawn to Mordor by the power of Sauron and is captured there and brought to him.

  • @jonnyd309
    @jonnyd309 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    video on Númenor and the Numenorians pls. Great docs, keep them coming.

  • @lordbob6303
    @lordbob6303 7 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    battle for middle earth 2 rise of the witch king anyone?

    • @orbitaltrooper7139
      @orbitaltrooper7139 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lord bob Hell yeah

    • @NastyCupid
      @NastyCupid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I adored the campaign of that game, it was the first time for me that the world of Tolkien was stretched much further than the Hobbit and the lord of the rings events. Feel like playing it again now ..

    • @lucasholmberg5708
      @lucasholmberg5708 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hell yeah, too bad they took away online :(

    • @70mjc
      @70mjc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lord bob good luck. Three good books shouldn’t take you more than 15 years to write

    • @joeyvpoisonfree
      @joeyvpoisonfree 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wrath of the Witch King

  • @CalliopeCarina
    @CalliopeCarina 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would like to thank you truly; and from the bottom of my heart, for this excellent video! I own The Hobbit and all of the Lord of the Rings' books along with 'The Silmarillion' and 'Unfinished Tales'; (which I absolutely adore!) and I have read them all.
    I also have all the hardback appendices/additional writings (3 LARGE volumes) and have been either too busy/lazy to read them in depth...
    Thank you so much for: your research, your time and your knowledge!. I can assure you it is very much appreciated!
    I loved your video (so informative!) and am now a happy subscriber! J.R.R. Tolkien was a genius. His world-building/mythology/lore/philology is off the charts! May he rest in peace, and may you continue to honour his work with you dedication.
    Thank you very much!

  • @sophiegallinger8004
    @sophiegallinger8004 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that you included the "Mordirith" plot from LOTRO. When I first played through it my jaw was hanging open, and then again when the plot twist came in Vol 4. I love how they include all of those tiny details that were left out of the movies, like the hobbit skeletons inside Fornost (of the hobbit bowmen that went to the battle and never came home), how LOTRO-Aragorn wears the green stone (and later on, the Elendilmir), and any reference to Arnor in general. Excellent video!

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Witch King should get his own story in the expanded universe of Middle Earth. Any who do what if Morgoth/Melkor was never captured

  • @ralphfurley123
    @ralphfurley123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so fascinating!!! The world that has been conjured up by Tolkien is so detailed and rich! I’ve only seen the movies, but watching this channel has ignited my desire to read the books!!! Thank you so much for opening a window into this world!!! ☮️🖖🏽

  • @johnries5593
    @johnries5593 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've always loved Eowyn's response to the Witch King's boast quoted at the beginning of this video: "But no living man am I!...". I was rather disappointed that Peter Jackson didn't use it in his movie.

  • @huanhoundofthevailinor2374
    @huanhoundofthevailinor2374 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So glad I found this channel for so long I thought I was only one of my generation that loved the hobbit Lord of the Rings story none of my friends were interested in it and not even older people I knew were interested in it could never fig out y I think its one of the best works of fiction ever made

  • @vjekoslavluburic5367
    @vjekoslavluburic5367 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    You Deserve A Lot More Subscribers M8...

  • @adinocc2042
    @adinocc2042 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Witch King is one of the coolest charters in the series!
    Good video!

  • @user-lm9gy7us4y
    @user-lm9gy7us4y 7 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    He could be the next dark lord just like sauron took the place of Morgoth

    • @xabun
      @xabun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the witch king died during the war of ring when sauron was defeated .. you know that?

    • @YourFather42494
      @YourFather42494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@xabun hence the word *could*

  • @pf5658
    @pf5658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nazgul is one badass looking intimidating beast. Just the sight of it is terrifying enough to send chills down one’s spine. Ones from the movies. Btw. Thanks for the great insight on this character. It is definitely my favorite too and I just wished he had more screen time in the trilogy.😊

  • @LEXICOGRAFFER
    @LEXICOGRAFFER 7 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Did the Witch King and Sauron have the same tailor?

    • @dar-nakkallig
      @dar-nakkallig 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Perhaps...

    • @KamikazeChinaman
      @KamikazeChinaman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Yes. Hugo Boss.

    • @jonp3890
      @jonp3890 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yep, it was the Gap of Rohan.

    • @08mlascelles
      @08mlascelles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@KamikazeChinaman considering Hugo Boss was a nazi, it would seem appropriate that he would make their clothes

    • @maxbattles3705
      @maxbattles3705 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I need...a tailor.

  • @sageofcaledor8188
    @sageofcaledor8188 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! The Witch King is my favorite bad guy from Lord of the Rings!

  • @doomslayer2819
    @doomslayer2819 7 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    soooo... what if Frodo DID became a wraith?

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Templar of Dreams I'll add it to the list of videos to do! It's a very good question! Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @doomslayer2819
      @doomslayer2819 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      i do believe that if Frodo became a wraith a lot of things would change ( of course ) and i believe that he would eventually kill One of his friends (Sam or pippin, i dont think he would be able to challenge aragorn).
      By the way if Frodo became a wraith would he become taller or would he stay as short as an Hobbit? i am sincerelly curious to know. continue your great work!

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Templar of Dreams Thank you very much! I could definitely see him defeating one of his friends as a wraith. As for the height question, he would ultimately become invisible to the physical-realm, but in the shadow-realm he would (I think) stay the same height if not grow slightly taller due to his transformation but not anywhere near a man's height.

    • @doomslayer2819
      @doomslayer2819 7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Men of the West i find the thought of him becoming a nazgul hilarious, could you immagine It? the 9 nazgul enter the Battlefield , striking fear on the enemy, and then the 10th midget nazgul appears..

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Templar of Dreams XD haha I mean, he wouldn't have the power of a Nazgûl due to their rings and lives as men before they were wraiths, but he would be something akin to the fell spirits that infested the Barrow-Downs. He would just be a servant in the shadow-realm.

  • @anniebiggs1217
    @anniebiggs1217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Witch King of Angmar has to be my favorite out of the nine his character and history is just so interesting great video I love it! 👏🏻👍🏻

  • @devinmoran59
    @devinmoran59 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Give up the halfling she elf" - Witch-King of Angmar lmao gotem

  • @e3IZrZ
    @e3IZrZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your passion for Lord of the Rings makes it more and more interesting to hear more lore, thank you for that.

  • @Stargate404
    @Stargate404 7 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    I personally don't buy the whole "Eowyn was no man" theory on his death. I think Glorifindel meant "no human" and thus it was Merry who ended the Witch King

    • @arnoldrimmer8008
      @arnoldrimmer8008 7 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      "So passed the sword of the Barrow-downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-kingdom when the Dúnedain
      were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar
      and its sorcerer king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had
      wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the
      undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his
      will."
      "breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his
      will" This is when the Witch-King left this realm. Eowyn just knocked over an empty suit of armor.

    • @rocketraccoon1976
      @rocketraccoon1976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      + Stargate404
      I believe the exact wording was: "Not by the hand of a man shall he fall." So both Eowyn and Merry would fit the bill.

    • @DavidOfWhitehills
      @DavidOfWhitehills 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Don't want to be a party pooper here, but Hobbits are a branch of Men. It was a woman with a big fuckoff sword that killed the Witch King dead. Proof? it's in the book.

    • @arnoldrimmer8008
      @arnoldrimmer8008 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      From the book:
      "cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will."
      The very definition of death the spirit leaving this realm. At this point he lost control of his meat puppet. That's dead. Beside the fact he died when he gave him self over the the power of The One.

    • @DavidOfWhitehills
      @DavidOfWhitehills 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I dont have the book to hand: could you read further and describe where Eowyn stabs the Witch King in the face. Also, Hobbits are a branch of Men, therefore, by the prediction, Merry could not deliver the killing blow. Besides, spells can be remade, given time. Merry gave us the vicarious pleasure of torturing the torturer, I think we all enjoyed that, the ancient sword broke the spell of invulnerability, and gave Eowyn the time to take advantage of the Witch King's temporary vulnerability.
      And haven't we all had nightmares of evil creatures coming after us, wake up in a cold sweat. This nightmare had a happy ending, it goes deep.

  • @1776PonySoldier
    @1776PonySoldier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I havent watched this since it premiered and forgot what awesome artwork it had. Can you imagine facing the Witch King on a battlefield?

  • @lancejedrickmaniquiz7547
    @lancejedrickmaniquiz7547 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    DANG HE LOOKS BADASS!!!!

  • @maidros85
    @maidros85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I seem to remember that Frodo and Sam in the books saw a shadow (presumably of a defeated Witch-king) rushing towards Sauron, but when the Dark Lord was destroyed, it dwindled as well.

  • @dennissvensson3831
    @dennissvensson3831 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok well i dont remember to much but if i dont recall wrong in the highmen speach his real name was ErMurazor, he was a prins of Numenor second son or something like that but not in line for the crown so he sett out for middle earth to forge his own Kingdom. I might be wrong. there he was courted by Sauron and soon fell to the shadow.

  • @m3tr0id86
    @m3tr0id86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am expecting a new blade that is forged in the likeness of the Witch King and if you wish I can take a photo with it later.
    Made out of 5160 High Carbon Steel and only 4 pounds at 51 inches.
    Plus in Texas now, it's legal to have it as open carry, but as Gandalf has mentioned once "True courage is not knowing whether to take a life, but knowing when to spare one" and "Many who live deserve death, some who die deserve life. Can you give it to them Frodo?"
    Wise words indeed.

  • @jaredweber9407
    @jaredweber9407 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Witch King left Minas Morgul on horseback at the head of his army in the book, not on his fell beast. Just a minor detail.

    • @volf4o
      @volf4o 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah and this sounds about right. The good army leaders are always in front of their army, giving them courage. RIP Witch-King of Angmar.

  • @sandracoombs2255
    @sandracoombs2255 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved it 😎Thank you. The Witch King is one of my favourite characters and it is intriguing to think he may return for the final battle at the end of time.

  • @AnthonyKhalil7
    @AnthonyKhalil7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Video idea: What if the fellowship never broke up?

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      CLASHINGwithAK Good idea, I'll add that to the list! Thanks for watching!

  • @jacenstarheart6256
    @jacenstarheart6256 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you you were a great help in unlocking these mysteries and bring to my attention new light over characters of Middle Earth I appreciate it!

  • @joeking3181
    @joeking3181 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Debate: Did Sauron take back the 9 rings of power after the men were wraiths? We know Sauron had 4 of the 7 dwarven rings, yet wouldn’t Sauron want even more power?
    I believe the ring wraiths kept the rings because if they took them off, what says that Sauron could still control them? In fellowship, Frodo is stabbed with a morgul blade which would turn him into a wraith, but not necessarily a RING wraith, if the 9 had that kind of weapon, then why aren’t there more ring wraiths? The blade was probably meant to place Frodo solely in the wraith world so those who saw in the wraith world, like the ring wraiths or Sauron, could see him with ease.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think they'd wear the rings because if they were destroyed (like in the Fellowship of the Ring) then the Rings would be lost. The Rings were probably kept in Mordor and they'd return there to take form again. The Witch King probably would have come back too, but the One Ring was destroyed before he could take form again.

  • @deanfensham7535
    @deanfensham7535 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really appreciated this suggestion from TH-cam. Well versed and it leaves me wanting to know more. Thanks you for the effort.

  • @johnnyscifi
    @johnnyscifi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The Witch-King is my main man. I thought only one of the 9 was from Numenor...the witch-king only...
    I thought he only ruled from Minas Morgul. I didnt know that he also rule Barad Dür in Sauron's stead for awhile....he also ruled from Angmar in the North, ofcourse
    PS: isnt Minas Ithil renamed Minas Morgul?

  • @Amehdion
    @Amehdion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lot of people talking about Frodo as a tiny ringwraith, which is funny to imagine for sure. But if Frodo had succumbed to the morgul blade, he would have been stripped of the ring, imprisoned in Barad Dur, and tortured for eternity. Just because he sought to keep the ring from Sauron and doing so would demoralize others fighting against him.

  • @pinaroz2384
    @pinaroz2384 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for the great videos! I think the Angmar storyline in lotro, from Witch King to Amarthiel is pretty amazing. In the game, Witch-king of Angmar is identified as a Black Numenorean, but I was wondering if this was also just for the game. I was suspicious about this, but the idea fits since Black Numenoreans are the ones dwelled in Black Magic. What do you think?

    • @VadulTharys
      @VadulTharys 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually cried when the story of Amarthiel ended, such beauty, such love, such courage, all destroyed with lies and deception. The ending was nearly as heart breaking as other losses, not many games can evoke an emotional reaction and love for NPCs as LOTRO does.

  • @crankiethekid6198
    @crankiethekid6198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "WITCH-KING OF ANGMAR" is absolutely the most badass name/title ever.

  • @berserkgouda4033
    @berserkgouda4033 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Absolutely annoys me in the extended edition of the return of the king, when the witch king breaks Gandalfs staff -_-

    • @potita24
      @potita24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I see that as an inconsitency as Gakdaf is Maiar and send back with even more power tha before. According to the Silmarillion only the valar were more powerfull, and of course Erú

    • @ladyalaina42
      @ladyalaina42 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too!!

    • @adityabhalekar3506
      @adityabhalekar3506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why? Gandalf may be a maia, but an istari is nowhere close to a maiar. He has the limitations of a human.

    • @TF2Scout..
      @TF2Scout.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@potita24 *GAkdaf* 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @_-_sinexus_-_
      @_-_sinexus_-_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adityabhalekar3506
      - "nowhere close to a Maiar"
      -> defeats a Balrog
      You see the problem here?

  • @LucasLego10
    @LucasLego10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Channel is super helpful for me, I really wanted to expand on my knowledge on the lore and this has helped a lot. Thanks

  • @julianlago2622
    @julianlago2622 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    awesome video man, very well done and explain. thanks!
    i have a theory about why the nazgul and sauron (after his "death" in numenor) have those shadow-metal like shapes. maybe the shapeshift power that sauron lost was to shapeshift into something biological... but i dont know much about this what do you think?

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Julian Lago Thank you so much! I definitely could subscribe to that theory, as his Ainur was still active and could move, but he could only take one physical form. That's a very good point!

  • @adenedhel3855
    @adenedhel3855 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    yesss the lotro reference! i love it!

    • @adenedhel3855
      @adenedhel3855 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      for years i was on brandywine. i havent played the last few years as ive been traveling and working too much. but I love and miss it! I really want to re-download it and check out the mordor expansion but i think my character is still level 85 lol

    • @lkngoodmk
      @lkngoodmk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Landroval! 👍🏻

    • @PhinAI
      @PhinAI 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arkenstone and Gladden (former E.)

  • @armstrongroger6893
    @armstrongroger6893 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7 PM Saturday 28th of October 2017, I have always enjoyed anything and everything to do with "The Lord of the Rings"but I have never heard anyone else comment on the " musical nature"of the text in the chapters about Tom Bombadil, it is almost "lilting language" and I really like the dramatic uses of "thou and thine" does anyone else feel this way.

    • @stephaniecuellar3192
      @stephaniecuellar3192 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      l always thought that much of the style was lost when it became adapted for the screen. l am most disappointed at the change in Gollum's speech patterns. Much more like Yoda they should be.

  • @michaeldavis9190
    @michaeldavis9190 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Yoystan!
    Great video, I never would have guessed he had such a fascinating story!
    Two questions though: were Minas Ithil and Anor built before or after the sinking of Numenor?
    Secondly, I don't have a Facebook account, but I looked at the poll. Do you mind if I vote here?
    If I may vote here, my vote is: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Also, you have gained 7 subscribers in less than 24 hours, congratulations!
    Lastly, kind of irrelevant, but: 4:20
    I never realized just how much Zant looks like the Witch King until seeing this picture.

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Davis Hey thanks for watching! Minas Ithil and Anor were built after the destruction of Númenor. Elendil and his sons came over the seas and Anárion and Isildur established Gondor while Elendil established Arnor. And of course you can vote here! I looked at some pictures of Zant and that is very true! Thank you for all of your support, and I'm very excited to see the community keep growing with all of you fantastic people!

  • @Dare_To_Game
    @Dare_To_Game 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would really enjoy a Game of Thrones style TV show surrounding the North fighting the Witch King. That could be epic.

  • @JayTor2112
    @JayTor2112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I see a few LotRO screenshots in there. Nice.

  • @rocklee775
    @rocklee775 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really adds significance to Aragorn fighting and defeating the Witch King along with a few of the other nazgul.

  • @Meatwaggon
    @Meatwaggon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    How is it that the Witch-King was able to shatter Gandalf's staff at the gates of Minas Tirith (or was it only in the movie)? Gandalf is a Maiar and should not have been so defenseless against a Nazgul, even the leader.

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Meatwaggon I don't believe he shattered Gandalf's staff at the gates, but Gandalf was weary from the battle and using his powers to give hope, but he wasn't completely powerless. Thanks for watching!

    • @rocketraccoon1976
      @rocketraccoon1976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      + Meatwaggon
      That was just put in the movie for effect. A crappy addition in my opinion. In reality, Gandalf had just killed a BALROG! Compared to a Balrog, a Nazgul is a weakling! I imagine, if things had gone on undisturbed (by Rohan), Gandalf would have destroyed or at least temporarily incapacitated the Witch-King (like what happened at the Ford of Rivendell).
      And if he had killed the Witch-King, the prophecy would still have held true, too. Gandalf is not a man, he's a Maia wearing the form of a man.

    • @kevfreeman5482
      @kevfreeman5482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not in the book!! One of the most annoying parts in the films!

    • @z1az285
      @z1az285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MenoftheWest That was a lousy contradiction. Gandalf had driven off, not just him but other nazgul in the first book. Gandalf was not afraid of him even when he broke down the gates (on a horse). I wish they had not changed that in the film

  • @romelcasillas2286
    @romelcasillas2286 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I kinda wanted the Witch-King to win the war. To me he's badass. Rides a dragon, wears black robes, cool backstory, bbfs with Sauron, and bringer of much torment and suffering. :/ Shame such a good guy went down like that.

  • @TheIndependantMind
    @TheIndependantMind 7 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I think the Mouth of Sauron is the lost King Earnur!!

    • @destinytroll1374
      @destinytroll1374 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      TheIndependentMind ooooooooh.
      I like that

    • @paolos22
      @paolos22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice idea

    • @oscarnilsson2872
      @oscarnilsson2872 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      why?

    • @thorbeorn4295
      @thorbeorn4295 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could be

    • @paolos22
      @paolos22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      On second thoughts, this isn't remotely likely. Tolkien's notes on return of the king states that the Mouth of Sauron, is a living man, a renegade from Gondor, and one likely to be a black Numenorean. This rules the King of Gondor out completely.

  • @chadtuggle9814
    @chadtuggle9814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big LotRO fan here, too! It's an amazing game. I started when it came out, and lover it immediately. Unfortunately, i moved about 8 years ago to place I can't get good internet, so haven't played in years ☹️ Love all your LotRO screenshots ❤️

  • @marduk1734
    @marduk1734 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    when I heard "The End Times" the only picture I had is Witch King is standing near Archaon. the forces of Good are so screwed.

  • @williamcasadone5071
    @williamcasadone5071 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re not a nerd bro you’re an entertainer with your awesome videos

  • @fatdaddyeddiejr
    @fatdaddyeddiejr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    "It's the Witch-King of Angmar! What do we do?"
    Eowyn, "Hold my beer!"

    • @paolos22
      @paolos22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Edwin Lindley “But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Éowyn I am, Éomund’s daughter

    • @edo2287
      @edo2287 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Merry: "LLLLERRRROOOOYYYY JENNNNNKKKIINNNSSSSS!!"

    • @bartsimpsonyellowmenace3780
      @bartsimpsonyellowmenace3780 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Edwin Lindley Its funny in the strategy game she will lost with 6 swing of his mace or from his fellbeast.

    • @72Kraken
      @72Kraken 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Hold my horse

  • @jimmyboy131
    @jimmyboy131 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm totally loving what you're doing here. I'm a complete Middle-earth nerd, too, and my favorite video game of all time is LOTRO, so I got a kick out of you talking about that part of the main quest (Book 1?) of the game storyline. That game is just amazing, and I'm so glad they based it on Tolkien's writings, and not Jackson's movies. (which are also amazing, don't get me wrong)

  • @Zennofobic
    @Zennofobic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Witch King is all hype and no substance... sorry bad wraith joke

  • @MrDannydavislive
    @MrDannydavislive 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is truly the best I ever seen as far as back story explanations!

  • @Zennofobic
    @Zennofobic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    umm Merry killed the Witch King stabbing him with the Barrow Down blade which had spells of unmaking... says in the book that it broke the spells that "knit his unseen sinews to his will" Eowyn just applied the coup de grace but Merry did the real work

    • @paolos22
      @paolos22 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zennofobic as discussed earlier, merry is a halfling, of the race of men. So he does no fit the the prophecy. Merrys blow breaks a spell, but it is eowyn that ends the witchking.
      “But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Éowyn I am, Éomund’s daughter

    • @Zennofobic
      @Zennofobic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      First of all, a halfling is not of the race of men. Eowyn as a Rohirrim is of the race of men so that negates the point you were trying to make about Merry. True, Eowyn is a female and no living "man" but she wouldn't have been able to do jack diddly to the Witch King if it had not been for the Barrow Blade that made the Nazgul vulnerable. So I still think that Merry did 90% of the work.

    • @paolos22
      @paolos22 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hobbits are of the race of men actually. " Hobbits were strictly an offshoot of Men rather than a separate race. The origin of Hobbits is obscure; they first appeared in the records of other Men in the Third Age."
      It doesn't matter how much of a percentage of the work Merry did, he did NOT kill the Witchking.
      The final and crucial blow was by a woman, deal with it!
      Merry and the barrow blade were essential, but the prophecy was fulfilled by Eowyn, the fact that Tolkien has her say those lines directly to contradict the Witchking's use of the prophecy is not coincidence.

    • @Zennofobic
      @Zennofobic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      can't fault your logic, I accept your explanation but as a misogynist I don't like it!!! lol

    • @paolos22
      @paolos22 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wondered what the agenda was. Us men have to suck it up and accept there are some badass women in legend and in life...thank god!

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still suspect anyone close to Sauron, or in possession of the one ring, will have their physical forms changed...and become something unearthly...which in this case, his form became more ghostly, yet his face became fiery like his master-with hellfire eyes.

  • @freddypedraza2066
    @freddypedraza2066 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Witch King: no man can hinder me!
    Vegeta: what was that!??
    Witch King: I said I can't hear you from down there
    Vegeta: speak up boy I can't hear you from up there
    I never thought I'd get into lord of the rings until I discovered your channel, now I can't stop watching these, and I'm going to start watching the movies.

    • @amazinggaming7284
      @amazinggaming7284 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Freddy Pedraza the books are a lot better. I'd suggest reading them first.

    • @rocketraccoon1976
      @rocketraccoon1976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vegeta would just destroy the entire planet under the Witch-King's feet, and then leave, laughing at the Nazgul floating helplessly in space. So much for immunity to being harmed by a man.

    • @thehoggins374
      @thehoggins374 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Witch King has my permission to bed Princess Trunks.

    • @devinthomas6986
      @devinthomas6986 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      how to ruin lotr

  • @Trendle222
    @Trendle222 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent Video!!!! loved it, well professional and Correct! You sir know your Tolkein Lore!

  • @Alex-qj8si
    @Alex-qj8si 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    awsome!

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alexandros Mathaiou Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it! :)

    • @Alex-qj8si
      @Alex-qj8si 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Men of the West :)

  • @davidreinmiller
    @davidreinmiller 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love saying "The Witch-King of Angmar" like Gandalf did in the movies

  • @NickSibz
    @NickSibz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Been really enjoying your videos but your recorded voice sounds super low on my laptop, I can barely hear it on my comp with my volume fully up. If you could just raise it, that'd be great. Dope vids, been looking for a channel like this.

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nick Sibilla Thank you so much my friend! I will definitely look at that with my new videos, thank you for letting me know! Make sure the TH-cam volume is all the way up, it could be that as well. Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nick Sibilla Hey man, I just put up my new video, let me know if the audio is better. I saw this comment as I was making it so I went through and turned it all up a bit. Thanks!

    • @NickSibz
      @NickSibz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      just watched, much better man! thanks so much

  • @ricardocastillo5485
    @ricardocastillo5485 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was Merry and Eowyn combined that killed him, but Merry was the crucial one, because the spells in the barrow-blade were made for that purpose, and the book states that Merry's blow breaks the spell that holds together his undead form, making him vulnerable to Eowyn's non-magical blow. Otherwise Eowyn could not have killed him. Plus a minor bit of foreshadowing, long before this, when the hobbits were caught by the barrow-wight, Merry wakes up out of a mystical dream where he thought he was a human warrior fighting the forces of the Witch-King long ago, or else he was temporarily possessed by the spirit of one of the warriors interred in the barrow

  • @pascalgagnon8088
    @pascalgagnon8088 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I still don't understand how a normal steel sword can kill a ghost lol. It should just have go in without doing any damage.

    • @PolskiHetman
      @PolskiHetman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pascal Gagnon it's something more I think it's something to do with the cloth on him and armour that made him be able to be killed

    • @colderplasma
      @colderplasma 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Pascal Gagnon it's explained perfectly well that the blade that Merry stabbed him with was from the barrow downs. The Dunedain crafted blades that were specifically enchanted to fight the wraiths and break the curse that bound them to the world even after death. When the witch king was stabbed by one of those blades, he effectively became mortal and was able to be killed by a conventional weapon.

    • @AlphaZaku
      @AlphaZaku 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Pascal Gagnon You have a misunderstanding of what the Nazgul are. They're not immaterial ghosts, they have physical bodies which are just invisible in the Seen world. This is how they can ride horses, wield real weapons, and wear real robes (note how Frodo sees them wearing grey robes and silver helms while he wears the ring, this being what they wore as they became permanently wraiths and are faded like they are).
      A lot of people have the misconception that the barrow-blade Merry strikes the Witch-king with was fatal to him, or it was somehow more important than Eowyn's blow. Tolkien wrote "No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will." The blade was particularly potent compared to normal weapons, but it didn't break any of the sorcery surrounding the Witch-king; we know this because Eowyn's sword still broke, as all blades do (including the barrow-blade itself) that pierce him. The "spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will" is a poetic way of saying his mental faculties. Merry's strike to the back of the knee paralysed the Witch-king, bringing him to his knees (which wouldn't have happened from a normal blade) which creates the momentary opening for Eowyn to drive her sword straight through his face! This is what kills him.

    • @AGCcachanilla
      @AGCcachanilla 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Pascal Gagnon merry stabbed him with an enchanted blade that Tom bombadil gave him, read the books

    • @frog7763
      @frog7763 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think he was weakened by the dagger of the noldor

  • @ulmo5536
    @ulmo5536 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good editing! Actually got chills when you quoted Glorfindel

  • @onnimannimaki8846
    @onnimannimaki8846 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do video about other nazguls

  • @mesifli
    @mesifli 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir, everyone loves LOTRO. Thank you for these videos, I most appreciate your work

  • @KevDaly
    @KevDaly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ignore the confusion introduced by the shitty Hobbit movies retconning the Ringwraiths as reanimated spooks: since the Witch King was a mortal man, not a Maia like Sauron or the Istari, he was tied closely to his physical form like any other mortal. His life had been greatly extended (or as Tolkien points out, stretched), but he was still a living man (which was key to the prophecy about his eventual demise). So his death when it came was as definitive as anyone else's. If his voice was to be heard again it would either be at the Last Battle, or perhaps as a spirit through necromancy - but the latter is *not* how he manifested previously.

    • @silverdragon710
      @silverdragon710 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are you actually talking about? the Necromancer is Sauron.

  • @massaweed420
    @massaweed420 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I love about LOTRO was that they stayed so true to the Lore of Tolkiens universe. Not only do they include things like Mordrith, but include shout outs to Baleriand and the 1st age. I would have to say LOTRO is in my top 5 games of all time, and by FAR my favorite MMO of all time. They just put so much good work into it, it's a shame I haven't been able to play for so long :/ I really wanted to see their representation of Rohan and Gondor. And eventually Mordor I would assume.
    The game just lets you explore and delve even deeper into Middle Earth, and it is so chalk full of lore that it gives me (and other lore nerds) nerdgasms lol

  • @That0therG
    @That0therG 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    how powerful was Gandalf?

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Shade's Archives Gandalf was a Maia and Istari who was nearly equal in power to Sauron, but in a different way. He had strength of wisdom and advise, rather than force and power. If you want to know more, I just made a video on the Wizards! Thanks for watching, have a good one!

    • @gun10ck
      @gun10ck 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Men of the West - So the Witch-King as an undead Numenorian is more powerful than Gandalf, a Maia? Doesn't seem to add up to me.

    • @zachstevens7382
      @zachstevens7382 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gun10ck he was never more powerful. they were going to duel before the Rohan riders came.

    • @JakubNaceradsky
      @JakubNaceradsky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But Istari were can not be compared with normal Maiar, they forgotten their origins and have a less power too (compared to elven magic, they are by mind fixed on body, Maiar were instead of it were not fixed to one form).

    • @utubehound69
      @utubehound69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Wizards is LOTR are Istari like angels ton help guide the ppl's of Middle Earth & weren't fight others fights i.e. show their full power. The Balrog & Gandalf are of the same kind Maia much like fallen angels that followed Morgoth in the dissidence marring of the Song of Ea i.e. "God" that he sang w/the created ones teaching them the way.