But had Tim lived, and the affair discovered, Tim always had the advantage, because he knew about Rich while Rich didnt know about him Knowledge is power, and in the end honesty and disclosure will win in a relationship, even an illicit one.
It was over the moment she spread her legs for Tim. She could have stopped it at any point up to that moment. She CHOSE to cheat, then CHOSE to have a 3 year affair.
That’s because it’s BS. You cannot love 2 people the same in terms of romantic love. If you loved the first person as you claimed then you couldn’t fall in love with someone else. You wouldn’t even put yourself in that situation
As a woman, I found myself yelling while listening to this story initially. I thought he was going to give her another chance and that was upsetting because she CLEARLY was entitled and thought that just because she wanted something, that made things OK. Her inability to see how much pain he was in was staggering and her statements about loving two men - when the other man was a 100% married man, as was she, showed how morally bankrupt she was. Because she felt she wanted to hold on to him, for security, that's all that mattered to her. It didn't matter that she caused him pain. Her statement about him not talking to her first before trying to divorce her was laughable. Did she consult with him before she cheated? The ending was SO incredibly satisfying and I'm glad I stuck it out until the end.
His wife had an affair for years. She literally wasted his time. Their marriage counselor on some bs. From what I see, they are only helper her deal her with Tim death. But Joan surprised that He wanted a divorce. 😂😂 She played herself 😂😂 He basically said that's he rather live with his dogs. She openly disrespecting him telling him that tim was better than him in some ways. It's like after saying that like no, you still got an old dude on your mind. He knew she was lying when she's say that she wouldn't leave him for Tim.. I like how he fed he acted like he was feeding into her mess. And still served her
How can this idiot not realize the consequences of her actions?? Didn't she really think that her betrayal wouldn't hurt him severely?? 26:01 At this point just divorce and let him be. 35:51 He has every right to make a unilateral decision on divorce because she cheated. After that she has absolutely no say in what she wants.
You can’t love two people the exact same way, at 100%, at the exact time. She said herself it was a switch to love one person as her whole world, then switch to love the other as her whole world. A switch implies one is cut off and not fully engaged. Also, she clearly loved Tim more. She changed for him. Needed to “learn to love again” after his death, told him the entire truth before committing to the affair, and broke a promise to someone else in order to be with him. She didn’t leave her husband because she was selfish and he was her backup. Tim wasn’t leaving his wife for her so she had to keep her husband. Had Tim told her to run away with him, she would have.
True, but it also occurs to me that were such a story true, then such a person as Joan would be solidly and truly duplicitous, actually fully adopting a full loving persona while with each man. Very unusual. But this would explain how she could pull it off for so long with Rich never knowing. The ONLY way he did was Joan committing the inevitably fatal mistake of retaniing all those letters and momentoes. It was her one big flaw that betrayed her. If not for that suspicious makeup case, had she squirreled it away somewhere safe rather than a few feet ftom Riches bed for years, she would have taken that affair to her grave. Alternatively, had Tim lived, and Rich discovered the affair while it still went on, im convinced she would have chosen door number TWO, Doctor Tim. Like the song says, "Torn between two lovers, feeling like a fool, loving you both is breaking all the rules."
@@Ewwtuba It would have been an interesting test to have Richard ask her to burn all the momentoes of Tim from that case. Just to see if she was willing to move forward with him and forget Tim. I'll bet she probably won't. After all, she kept them for over 20 years.
The wife tried to make husband understand her lost of her AP. There shouldn’t be AP in the first place. Why does he need to understand the feeling of such a selfish and narcissistic and wrong like that? It’s good that, in the end , he decided to leave.
she spent half the story playing victim, to coerce Richard to understand her feelings about both of the men she wrapped around her finger. There is nothing noble about betraying your husband, but she tried her hardest to do just that.
If it was me in the counseling session… “Doctor, I want to tell Tim’s wife about this affair. Tim has ruined my marriage, so why should she not have to deal with what her husband did? I think that this is the only way I can let this go.”
Joan went with her sister Brenda, who (I guess) Richard thought was 'trustworthy. But I agree that 2 women alone on a cruise sounds like an invitations for 2 weeks of cheating with a boat full of men.
Lots of people have loyal spouses and have respect for their partners. Despite listening to these stories, remember not everyone has issues with their partners
I let a one time fling go pretty much unpunished after 13 years married. When we'd been married 17 years she met a dude in a yahoo chat room (it was 1999-2000) and then met him out of state. When she came back from her trip I drove her to the apartment I'd moved her into while she was gone and left her ass there. Had the papers served on her the following morning. Six months later I was finally free again. I still thank God we decided against having kids!!! 😉 And . . . Yes I was an idiot to have given her another chance after her first "slip."
Cheating tends to reveal deeper character flaws, but is it fair to say everyone who cheats will always cheat again? 🤔 Maybe some can learn from their mistakes?
You can never undo the act of theft! Therefore the motto “Once a thief, always a thief” applies! You can never undo the act of being late! Therefore the motto “Once late, always late” applies! I'm not sure, but the meaning of your statement should be clear!
@SpaceTales88 I learned. Not that I was caught. But the suspense of waiting to be caught almost drove me insane. After almost two years of dreading for the axe to fall, I realized I got away with it. I never, ever, want to go through with it again. Its been more than two decades now. So I hope that I proved to you that I can change. A few moments of ecstasy is just not worth the agony of being caught cheating.
The therapy itself was his revenge. He leaded her on for a whole year believing the lie that her marriage was reviving and that things would go "back to normal", then he pulled the rug from under her feet, and made her feel some of what he felt when he read those letters. The betrayal she felt was over a period of only one year though, so that's why she only felt a fraction of what he suffered from her betrayal.
Glad he left her, man the sister of AP is also a 304. I would have called up the husband and told him what his wife was doing covering an affair and to know who he married. I would have also informed the widow of AP being an ass and sister in law covering the affair
OP himself don't know who the AP was. Much more his wife or sister. Not to mention in another state & city. That was 20 yrs ago and the trail has long gone cold. Unless you're willing to throw thousands of $ to hire investigators to track them down.
Forget Joan. She’s a cheater, then she lied about it for years. She gave her best for another man. I was so mad until the end when he said “nah fuq tht”. DONT RECONCILE WITH CHEATERS! ESPECIALLY Emotional cheaters.
"I love you so much honey, it's just I started hanging out with another guy. Doing lunches, then dinners, then quickies in hotels. But I always loved you!" 304 "logic" at its finest, entitled, selfish and delusional. If she really loved him none of that extracurricular bullpucky would have ever happened. Sure, maybe she was fond of him, used to him and liked the stability and comfort he provided to her. That isn't love though, not the kind of devoted love you should share with your marriage partner. Apparently he just always assumed that she loved him as deeply as he did her. He was wrong and finding that out made their entire journey together a lie in his mind. I can't blame him, I experienced the same kind of disillusionment too and my thinking was pretty much exactly that way at the time.
Joan played victim whenever she had the chance, trying to gain sympathy points with the betrayed husband. Richard soaked everything in, and, in the end, made the best decision for him. You don't get married, then love and duck a second man in secret, for who knows how long, while lying to her husband what she was doing while she was with Tim, the homewrecker. Years later Richard discovers Joan's secret. She claimed to love both men. However, the nail in the coffin for her was in the wedding, where she vowed to forsake all other men, and that's where she failed or refused to understand when she was ducking Tim behind Richard's back. I was so happy for Richard at that last therapy session, where he told Joan exactly how he felt about what she did to him and how he really felt about her. Joan had finally last her back-up plan, her fallback guy... The selfish, lying monkey-brancher is now divorced, and rightfully so.
You may be surprised how many loyal men who got caught offguard and initiate to offer marriage counseling. I was one of them, imagine being loyal, prioritizing your family and the shock when i caught them. Due to the shock, with the initial thought of the family, i have thought of saving my family first. Im not sure if it was weeks or a month for me to overcome my shock and concluded that separating ways is the only way, and of adding to the hatred towards the ex was my self hatred for being an idiot for even considering counseling against the damage to my pride.
@@javs2280From what I understand he didn't intiated marriage counseling to save family (his son was old enough to have his own family after all) but to get the whole story out and prepare himself over time for seperation. He wanted a disclosure on it to move on or at least that is my opinion.
What a great balancing act that keeps males listening in fear that husband will make a stupid decision to stay together; and keeping the female listening in hopes that marriage counseling can make loving two men at once is a viable excuse for cheating.
Cheating leaves a lasting mark that can't be erased. It's true when they say, 'Once a cheater, always a cheater.' What do you think? Can someone truly change?
She never said she was sorry. She never apologized. She never thought she did anything wrong. She just told him that she cheated on him with a man that met and fell in love with and loved “just as much as him”. She got fit for the new guy. Went back to overweight when AP died.
The nerve of her to pray to God about him when her infidelity is the cause😂😂😂 Not only that, she kept the momentos as if, OK, I'm going to keep my cake and eat it too 😅
that box in her marital home was like a badge of honor for her... that's just wrong. Without that box, Richard would have never found out she was a long-time cheater.
If you give 100% of your romantic love to a person then by definition no one else has any of your love during that time. That means that no matter how much you love your husband when you are with them it also means that during your marriage as a whole, you didn't always love him.
Three points: The lawyer is unethical. You must represent your client and act in his best interest. You do not play God. Textbook therapy, the writer must have experience. However, I never heard anything about the wife facing or suffering any consequences for her actions. Admitted her actions but felt no remorse. Finally, what about the husbands dignity. The affair happened when he found out, not years ago. Absolutely everything during and afterwards is deceitful and a lie.
Cheating with another man, loving him then saying she loves him too - that case with keepsakes; he was right, once a cheater always a cheater. I would have divorced her anyway.
His marriage are and ended 30 years ago. Why the hell would he bother going through the torture of marriage counseling after he found out she cheated he should’ve just left her.
I don’t understand why he was willing to die d so much time in therapy. He decision at the end was the same as his initial one. I guess the only benefit was to finally kill off any remaining feelings he had for her.
This is be es. "I loved you both." I am sorry you can't truly love someone while betraying them. It's delusional and narcissistic. And expecting the injured party to understand and share that delusion has sadistic tones to it. Him putting himself through that crap was masochistic, and in the end fruitless. Trust had been broken, and her remorse wasn't about the doing, but the discovery. The"OP" would have been better served to just get the divorce immediately, spending his time and effort on himself. In the end her "reasons" won't excuse her actions, nor abrogate his pain.
SOOOO….. SHe is angry because he didn’t talk to her before filling divorce papers, but never talked to him about her feelings for Tim before starting 3 year affair that ended only when AP died…. So sorry not sorry, she is out of there
In the end, he made an amazing decision. I almost think that taking her back was a bad decision toward the end of the story but at last, everything went well for him.
Why wouldn't he take some woman up to the cabin and till she gets back to the carribean. Oh, I was just so stunned, I didn't know what I was doing. How would the counselor deal with that.
There's a huge difference.. Regret involves being upfront and confessing at the first instance hoping to reconcile then theres remorse at being caught out and exposed because you had no actual regrets
there is no way back... never... you can circle around it, but there will always be that rock in the middle, from the cheated point of view there will always be that mistrust, from the cheater the feeling will be the opposite, like a weight has been lifted from their guilty conscience, so almost opposite emotions, so even if the pair gets reunited again, it will never be the same again for both of them...
She was bossy, but also played the victim. Boo HOO. She knew what she was doing and she wanted her back-up plan husband back, now that ffff boy kicked the bucket.
Man what a story. Tell me you don't give a sh*t about me, without saying it!! Do women not pay any attention to the part of the vows that sates: "Forsaking all others?"
the w.w talks to the comatose severely depressed husband who acts like a love sick teenager...about how wonderful the other man was in a brilliant strategy
Hallmark Channel, maybe, but with Disney in 2024 it's all about girl power or gender swapping. At Disney, he would have gone back to her and she would have cheated again... with Hallmark, it's the same but without the cheating, and the man would be BPed completely.
Wow this woman or 403if you will is something else. The op makes me ashamed to be a man. Have some self respect. If Tim was still alive she never would have stopped
OP wasted his time with all of that BS. You cannot romantically love 2 people at once. If she truly loved her husband then she wouldn’t fall in love with someone else. She broke her wedding vows which shows how she felt about her husband. Did she honor, obey, and forsake all others for him? No? Then she didn’t love him. Simple as that. Her twisted view of love isn’t love.
I've got to wonder why she held onto the evidence of her affair for so long, it's like an unexplored bomb just waiting for the moment to explode and destroy everything. After spending twenty years together and a year of therapy he still dumps her for three dogs that he now has to walk behind and pick up their poo.
if she had loved her husband that other male would not have been necessary. they shared dreams and fantasies but neither said anything about leaving their spouses. the husband was right to leave her. during all of their three years and letters she did not say she loved her husband or life with him and their child. seeing those pictures and letters, reading how their physical interaction left them feeling, he thought all of this was going on while she was in love with him. sorry, to all, but you can not love 2 people 100%. it's either all or nothing at all except the excitement of secret sex.
She…. She had an affair for a long time, and then is wondering why her husband is hurt when he finds out? You don’t love him, you only love what he provided you with and the love and care he showered you with. You are terrible.
God this guy’s irritating me, you can forgive someone sure but apologizing for her being upset you said you were happy her lover was dead? Falling in love with someone isn’t quick, she betrayed him for months before it became the worst love story in the state. You don’t need to know a pedophiles tragic backstory to throw him into a cell. EDIT: Thank God, thought this would end differently.
Joan doesn’t deserve any sympathy or forgiveness. The only reason why she stopped the affair was the guy she was cheating with died.
Exactly
But had Tim lived, and the affair discovered, Tim always had the advantage, because he knew about Rich while Rich didnt know about him Knowledge is power, and in the end honesty and disclosure will win in a relationship, even an illicit one.
Yeah
@@EwwtubaTim never got the chance to betray joan😂😂😂
The moment she confessed to loving 2 men equally, the marriage was doomed. No man could stay married after hearing that admission.
It was over the moment she spread her legs for Tim.
She could have stopped it at any point up to that moment.
She CHOSE to cheat, then CHOSE to have a 3 year affair.
That’s because it’s BS. You cannot love 2 people the same in terms of romantic love. If you loved the first person as you claimed then you couldn’t fall in love with someone else. You wouldn’t even put yourself in that situation
@@mrkmoney1234 agreed
She dishonored her husband.
She did more than that, she dishonored her entire family.
It was good he left her.
As a woman, I found myself yelling while listening to this story initially. I thought he was going to give her another chance and that was upsetting because she CLEARLY was entitled and thought that just because she wanted something, that made things OK. Her inability to see how much pain he was in was staggering and her statements about loving two men - when the other man was a 100% married man, as was she, showed how morally bankrupt she was. Because she felt she wanted to hold on to him, for security, that's all that mattered to her. It didn't matter that she caused him pain. Her statement about him not talking to her first before trying to divorce her was laughable. Did she consult with him before she cheated? The ending was SO incredibly satisfying and I'm glad I stuck it out until the end.
His wife had an affair for years. She literally wasted his time. Their marriage counselor on some bs. From what I see, they are only helper her deal her with Tim death. But Joan surprised that
He wanted a divorce. 😂😂
She played herself 😂😂
He basically said that's he rather live with his dogs. She openly disrespecting him telling him that tim was better than him in some ways. It's like after saying that like no, you still got an old dude on your mind. He knew she was lying when she's say that she wouldn't leave him for Tim..
I like how he fed he acted like he was feeding into her mess. And still served her
Marriage counselors are always on some bs
BRUUU she use him like a wallet MFing Bch😢
@@Profitglutton90 And getting rich from it, too!
@@Profitglutton90 i mean it is their job as Marriage Councelor. They're not Divorce Councellor😂
I remember my ex-fiancee making me choose between her and my dogs........if you excuse me, I have to go on a walk with my dogs now.........
Glad he divorced her at the end she cheated and now she is alone.
Right, you cannot un-cheat. What's done is done.
Phew. I was worried he d fall for her bs
Me too! This woman is full of crap.
Me also. I kept telling myself he is letting her control the narrative. I thought for sure this was going to end differently.
See how useless those councilors are?
How can this idiot not realize the consequences of her actions?? Didn't she really think that her betrayal wouldn't hurt him severely?? 26:01 At this point just divorce and let him be. 35:51 He has every right to make a unilateral decision on divorce because she cheated. After that she has absolutely no say in what she wants.
Afterall, she made an unilateral decision to have her affair.
You can’t love two people the exact same way, at 100%, at the exact time. She said herself it was a switch to love one person as her whole world, then switch to love the other as her whole world. A switch implies one is cut off and not fully engaged. Also, she clearly loved Tim more. She changed for him. Needed to “learn to love again” after his death, told him the entire truth before committing to the affair, and broke a promise to someone else in order to be with him. She didn’t leave her husband because she was selfish and he was her backup. Tim wasn’t leaving his wife for her so she had to keep her husband. Had Tim told her to run away with him, she would have.
Unless it's polygamy maybe
True, but it also occurs to me that were such a story true, then such a person as Joan would be solidly and truly duplicitous, actually fully adopting a full loving persona while with each man. Very unusual. But this would explain how she could pull it off for so long with Rich never knowing. The ONLY way he did was Joan committing the inevitably fatal mistake of retaniing all those letters and momentoes. It was her one big flaw that betrayed her. If not for that suspicious makeup case, had she squirreled it away somewhere safe rather than a few feet ftom Riches bed for years, she would have taken that affair to her grave.
Alternatively, had Tim lived, and Rich discovered the affair while it still went on, im convinced she would have chosen door number TWO, Doctor Tim.
Like the song says,
"Torn between two lovers, feeling like a fool, loving you both is breaking all the rules."
@@eskimolost2012polygamy is bigamy,and thats is a crime
You 100% can love more than 1, even 2. However, someone loses, O don't believe at all that it would ever be even.
@@Ewwtuba It would have been an interesting test to have Richard ask her to burn all the momentoes of Tim from that case. Just to see if she was willing to move forward with him and forget Tim. I'll bet she probably won't. After all, she kept them for over 20 years.
The wife tried to make husband understand her lost of her AP. There shouldn’t be AP in the first place. Why does he need to understand the feeling of such a selfish and narcissistic and wrong like that? It’s good that, in the end , he decided to leave.
She wants him to understand, because she wanted to justify and lessen her guilty feeling. She don’t really care about his feelings and pain.
@@WilliamBillyChaBINGO!
she spent half the story playing victim, to coerce Richard to understand her feelings about both of the men she wrapped around her finger. There is nothing noble about betraying your husband, but she tried her hardest to do just that.
If it was me in the counseling session…
“Doctor, I want to tell Tim’s wife about this affair. Tim has ruined my marriage, so why should she not have to deal with what her husband did? I think that this is the only way I can let this go.”
NOW it alright to have another partner l would Go and get another Woman 👠👠
Who let's their wife go onto a 2 week cruise in the Caribbean without him ? Ignorance
Joan went with her sister Brenda, who (I guess) Richard thought was 'trustworthy.
But I agree that 2 women alone on a cruise sounds like an invitations for 2 weeks of cheating with a boat full of men.
Lots of people have loyal spouses and have respect for their partners. Despite listening to these stories, remember not everyone has issues with their partners
You can never undo the act of cheating!, so the 'Once a cheater, always a cheater' is true!
I let a one time fling go pretty much unpunished after 13 years married. When we'd been married 17 years she met a dude in a yahoo chat room (it was 1999-2000) and then met him out of state. When she came back from her trip I drove her to the apartment I'd moved her into while she was gone and left her ass there. Had the papers served on her the following morning. Six months later I was finally free again. I still thank God we decided against having kids!!! 😉
And . . . Yes I was an idiot to have given her another chance after her first "slip."
Cheating tends to reveal deeper character flaws, but is it fair to say everyone who cheats will always cheat again? 🤔 Maybe some can learn from their mistakes?
True about 87% of the time so 9 out of 10, and it's doubtful she'll be the exception.
You can never undo the act of theft! Therefore the motto “Once a thief, always a thief” applies! You can never undo the act of being late! Therefore the motto “Once late, always late” applies! I'm not sure, but the meaning of your statement should be clear!
@SpaceTales88
I learned. Not that I was caught. But the suspense of waiting to be caught almost drove me insane. After almost two years of dreading for the axe to fall, I realized I got away with it.
I never, ever, want to go through with it again. Its been more than two decades now. So I hope that I proved to you that I can change. A few moments of ecstasy is just not worth the agony of being caught cheating.
I wouldn’t have wasted all that time and money on the therapist, he could have gotten on with his life a whole year earlier.
The therapy itself was his revenge. He leaded her on for a whole year believing the lie that her marriage was reviving and that things would go "back to normal", then he pulled the rug from under her feet, and made her feel some of what he felt when he read those letters. The betrayal she felt was over a period of only one year though, so that's why she only felt a fraction of what he suffered from her betrayal.
Nice twist at the end. Did not expect that. Pleasantly surprised.
Try un-cooking an egg, oh you can't, surprise you also can't undo a 304.
Rich needs to get a gf and tell Joan "I love 2 women, get over it joan".
Glad he left her, man the sister of AP is also a 304. I would have called up the husband and told him what his wife was doing covering an affair and to know who he married. I would have also informed the widow of AP being an ass and sister in law covering the affair
I think it's because, for some reason, people think that dead cheaters deserve some kind of respect just because they died.
@@ifynwamma man It’s messed up people go on trying to keep a fake image.
That person is gone and let all the skeletons out the closet.
OP himself don't know who the AP was. Much more his wife or sister. Not to mention in another state & city. That was 20 yrs ago and the trail has long gone cold.
Unless you're willing to throw thousands of $ to hire investigators to track them down.
I would have gotten a new lawyer after what he did and I would have divorced her and never went to couple counseling
Yo that lawyer would be in front of the committee fighting for his law license.
Who lets their wife go on a two-week cruise in the Caribbean without them? I just can't wrap my head around that!
Lots of Americans do. We asians won't.
A man who has a premonition that it’s over, even if it’s not entirely clear what is happening. His heart already knew.
Forget Joan. She’s a cheater, then she lied about it for years. She gave her best for another man.
I was so mad until the end when he said “nah fuq tht”. DONT RECONCILE WITH CHEATERS! ESPECIALLY Emotional cheaters.
When I figured out the counselor was a woman, I knew he was in trouble.
"I love you so much honey, it's just I started hanging out with another guy. Doing lunches, then dinners, then quickies in hotels. But I always loved you!"
304 "logic" at its finest, entitled, selfish and delusional. If she really loved him none of that extracurricular bullpucky would have ever happened. Sure, maybe she was fond of him, used to him and liked the stability and comfort he provided to her. That isn't love though, not the kind of devoted love you should share with your marriage partner. Apparently he just always assumed that she loved him as deeply as he did her. He was wrong and finding that out made their entire journey together a lie in his mind. I can't blame him, I experienced the same kind of disillusionment too and my thinking was pretty much exactly that way at the time.
Wow, Richard's surprise bedroom makeover turned into a deep dive uncovering his wife's secret past. Talk about a renovation gone wrong!
Joan played victim whenever she had the chance, trying to gain sympathy points with the betrayed husband. Richard soaked everything in, and, in the end, made the best decision for him. You don't get married, then love and duck a second man in secret, for who knows how long, while lying to her husband what she was doing while she was with Tim, the homewrecker. Years later Richard discovers Joan's secret. She claimed to love both men.
However, the nail in the coffin for her was in the wedding, where she vowed to forsake all other men, and that's where she failed or refused to understand when she was ducking Tim behind Richard's back. I was so happy for Richard at that last therapy session, where he told Joan exactly how he felt about what she did to him and how he really felt about her. Joan had finally last her back-up plan, her fallback guy... The selfish, lying monkey-brancher is now divorced, and rightfully so.
Before that last speech he was pis*ing me off.
I know
I sensed that he was playing a double game on her from the moment he agreed to marriage (HA!) counseling.
You may be surprised how many loyal men who got caught offguard and initiate to offer marriage counseling. I was one of them, imagine being loyal, prioritizing your family and the shock when i caught them. Due to the shock, with the initial thought of the family, i have thought of saving my family first. Im not sure if it was weeks or a month for me to overcome my shock and concluded that separating ways is the only way, and of adding to the hatred towards the ex was my self hatred for being an idiot for even considering counseling against the damage to my pride.
I was cheering when he made his last speech. Woo HOO. I was worried she would be able to rope him in with her selfish bs...
@@javs2280From what I understand he didn't intiated marriage counseling to save family (his son was old enough to have his own family after all) but to get the whole story out and prepare himself over time for seperation. He wanted a disclosure on it to move on or at least that is my opinion.
When in doubt....get a dog 🐕
Amen
What a great balancing act that keeps males listening in fear that husband will make a stupid decision to stay together; and keeping the female listening in hopes that marriage counseling can make loving two men at once is a viable excuse for cheating.
You can make someone forget the image of his spouse cheating on him for years 🤦🏿
I would have never tolerated that. Divorce.
Same here!!! She for the streets!!!
Once you cheat, there's no going back. That's why they say 'Once a cheater, always a cheater,' and it's true!
Cheating leaves a lasting mark that can't be erased. It's true when they say, 'Once a cheater, always a cheater.' What do you think? Can someone truly change?
She never said she was sorry. She never apologized. She never thought she did anything wrong. She just told him that she cheated on him with a man that met and fell in love with and loved “just as much as him”. She got fit for the new guy. Went back to overweight when AP died.
The nerve of her to pray to God about him when her infidelity is the cause😂😂😂
Not only that, she kept the momentos as if, OK, I'm going to keep my cake and eat it too 😅
that box in her marital home was like a badge of honor for her... that's just wrong. Without that box, Richard would have never found out she was a long-time cheater.
If you give 100% of your romantic love to a person then by definition no one else has any of your love during that time. That means that no matter how much you love your husband when you are with them it also means that during your marriage as a whole, you didn't always love him.
I love happy endings
I think that if her lover never died, she’d still be cheating. Ugh.
The ending was surprising, i didn't expect that , shame he has to settle for dog's but they are an improvement over what he had
Best ending EVER
She missed his birthday because her affair partner died and she was sad. Another proof point to her selfishness.
Well I didn’t expect that ending. With how often they said “Doctor Brookes” I assumed whoever wrote this was Dr. Brookes. 😂
The last 2 minutes has the ending that was needed all along
Three points: The lawyer is unethical. You must represent your client and act in his best interest. You do not play God. Textbook therapy, the writer must have experience. However, I never heard anything about the wife facing or suffering any consequences for her actions. Admitted her actions but felt no remorse. Finally, what about the husbands dignity. The affair happened when he found out, not years ago. Absolutely everything during and afterwards is deceitful and a lie.
The wife said she couldn’t have given enough either man, but had the husband found out back then he divorced her ass so she wanted had a choice
What a nonsense is this. She said love to men equally. If she truly loved her husband than never cheat on him.
Emotionally raw and gripping tale of marriage tested by hidden truths. Can love endure?
Also, one bad thing is she got all hot for her AP then gained the wait back after the APs death.
That was a satisfying ending as she thought he was slowly getting back together with her, yer that rocked her.
Cheating with another man, loving him then saying she loves him too - that case with keepsakes; he was right, once a cheater always a cheater. I would have divorced her anyway.
Richard needed 12 weeks to read seven letters. it was exhausting
His marriage are and ended 30 years ago. Why the hell would he bother going through the torture of marriage counseling after he found out she cheated he should’ve just left her.
I don’t understand why he was willing to die d so much time in therapy. He decision at the end was the same as his initial one. I guess the only benefit was to finally kill off any remaining feelings he had for her.
the counselor sure milked that case all the way to the bank.
This is be es. "I loved you both." I am sorry you can't truly love someone while betraying them. It's delusional and narcissistic. And expecting the injured party to understand and share that delusion has sadistic tones to it. Him putting himself through that crap was masochistic, and in the end fruitless. Trust had been broken, and her remorse wasn't about the doing, but the discovery. The"OP" would have been better served to just get the divorce immediately, spending his time and effort on himself. In the end her "reasons" won't excuse her actions, nor abrogate his pain.
It’s over. She’s still mourning her lover after 20 years.
SOOOO….. SHe is angry because he didn’t talk to her before filling divorce papers, but never talked to him about her feelings for Tim before starting 3 year affair that ended only when AP died…. So sorry not sorry, she is out of there
Joan had absolutely no leg to stand on. Her feelings over losing her lover should have no consideration.
Ain’t no way in the world I would stay. He gets the leftover woman from the death of the real love of her life now that he knows.
If home boy was still alive. I kept waiting for that question.
I love happy endings ❤
In the end, he made an amazing decision. I almost think that taking her back was a bad decision toward the end of the story but at last, everything went well for him.
Why wouldn't he take some woman up to the cabin and till she gets back to the carribean. Oh, I was just so stunned, I didn't know what I was doing. How would the counselor deal with that.
There's a huge difference.. Regret involves being upfront and confessing at the first instance hoping to reconcile then theres remorse at being caught out and exposed because you had no actual regrets
It's amazing how these stories end up going to the dogs in the end. :)
The worse part about this story? All the money wasted on therapy when Richard knew he wanted a divorce.
Good to the man to stick to his guns. Now what IF the husband did what she did, would she take it as well as he did?
there is no way back... never... you can circle around it, but there will always be that rock in the middle, from the cheated point of view there will always be that mistrust, from the cheater the feeling will be the opposite, like a weight has been lifted from their guilty conscience, so almost opposite emotions, so even if the pair gets reunited again, it will never be the same again for both of them...
She stole this mans whole life. She was so selfish. He never had a choice to have a wife for only himself.
even tho you cheated, I'm glad you did not consider leaving me....................
Nice ending!
She still tells him what to do what a door mat
She was bossy, but also played the victim. Boo HOO. She knew what she was doing and she wanted her back-up plan husband back, now that ffff boy kicked the bucket.
The fact that she can't see thing from his perspective.....is a red flag for me.
She will never have Richard's love again.
Man what a story. Tell me you don't give a sh*t about me, without saying it!! Do women not pay any attention to the part of the vows that sates: "Forsaking all others?"
the w.w talks to the comatose severely depressed husband who acts like a love sick teenager...about how wonderful the other man was in a brilliant strategy
He did right leaving.. it would forever played on his mind if he’d stayed
What an ending! All the while I thought and they live happily ever after. I forgot it's not a Disney Chanel.
Hallmark Channel, maybe, but with Disney in 2024 it's all about girl power or gender swapping. At Disney, he would have gone back to her and she would have cheated again... with Hallmark, it's the same but without the cheating, and the man would be BPed completely.
@@eomc17 I put Disney because I used "and they live happily ever after". I don't know about Hallmark. I have not seen any of their movies.
@@greggllamas7580 Disney used to be that way, but Disney 2024 is sadly not for everyone anymore.
That was a good story
Going to therapy is wasting time and money.
And that's why any woman will never really understand her man.
Wow this woman or 403if you will is something else. The op makes me ashamed to be a man. Have some self respect. If Tim was still alive she never would have stopped
OP wasted his time with all of that BS. You cannot romantically love 2 people at once. If she truly loved her husband then she wouldn’t fall in love with someone else. She broke her wedding vows which shows how she felt about her husband. Did she honor, obey, and forsake all others for him? No? Then she didn’t love him. Simple as that. Her twisted view of love isn’t love.
Great ending
I've got to wonder why she held onto the evidence of her affair for so long, it's like an unexplored bomb just waiting for the moment to explode and destroy everything.
After spending twenty years together and a year of therapy he still dumps her for three dogs that he now has to walk behind and pick up their poo.
if she had loved her husband that other male would not have been necessary. they shared dreams and fantasies but neither said anything about leaving their spouses. the husband was right to leave her. during all of their three years and letters she did not say she loved her husband or life with him and their child. seeing those pictures and letters, reading how their physical interaction left them feeling, he thought all of this was going on while she was in love with him. sorry, to all, but you can not love 2 people 100%. it's either all or nothing at all except the excitement of secret sex.
That’s horrible life he was living in. To find everything was life and you were just the second gear in those life.
It's as simple as that. This story with Richard is reality. Yea, Joan is free to spread and receive all the love but not Richards.
She lied and cheated for years and says she loves them both ! 😂😂
Richard if you don't leave her alone
Beyatch had no remorse keeping reminders of her betrayal
Love the ending alot, but want him to find someone new and special❤
Guess this is a good way find out the "why" most accurately if it matters at all
So she writes letters to her lover but doesn’t post them but keeps them in a locked box? Makes sense I guess if you are not too critical.
She…. She had an affair for a long time, and then is wondering why her husband is hurt when he finds out? You don’t love him, you only love what he provided you with and the love and care he showered you with. You are terrible.
That was a twist I thought he was giving her another chance,but good for him
All about her and her lover and her pain but he putts his pain in the trash
Maybe she needs to go after Tim, to take away her pain. Fast
The simping programing is strong on this one
God this guy’s irritating me, you can forgive someone sure but apologizing for her being upset you said you were happy her lover was dead? Falling in love with someone isn’t quick, she betrayed him for months before it became the worst love story in the state. You don’t need to know a pedophiles tragic backstory to throw him into a cell.
EDIT: Thank God, thought this would end differently.